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A62918 A defence of Mr. M. H's brief enquiry into the nature of schism and the vindication of it with reflections upon a pamphlet called The review, &c. : and a brief historical account of nonconformity from the Reformation to this present time. Tong, William, 1662-1727. 1693 (1693) Wing T1874; ESTC R22341 189,699 204

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the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n themselves_o and_o therefore_o there_o be_v then_o no_o bishop_n but_o they_o be_v all_o one_o with_o presbyter_n but_o that_o as_o the_o apostle_n go_v off_o bishop_n come_v to_o be_v settle_v in_o the_o several_a church_n now_o though_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a the_o apostle_n do_v not_o manage_v the_o government_n of_o particular_a church_n themselves_o but_o put_v it_o into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbyter_n they_o themselves_o still_o hold_v a_o universal_a superintendency_n yet_o we_o glad_o accept_v the_o concession_n of_o this_o learned_a prelate_n it_o be_v indeed_o a_o region_fw-la adverse_a to_o dr._n hammond_n but_o will_v equal_o serve_v our_o purpose_n the_o one_o say_v there_o be_v no_o presbyter_n in_o scripture_n time_n inferior_a to_o bishop_n the_o other_o there_o be_v no_o bishop_n superior_a to_o presbyter_n our_o conclusion_n flow_v alike_o natural_o and_o free_o from_o both_o that_o in_o scripture_n time_n bishop_n 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the_o qualification_n of_o those_o elder_n ch._n 1._o v._n 5,6_o and_o as_o a_o reason_n it_o be_v add_v for_o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a this_o will_v have_v be_v no_o reason_n have_v not_o the_o elder_a and_o bishop_n be_v the_o same_o a_o late_a author_n think_v this_o so_o considerable_a that_o he_o put_v a_o new_a sense_n upon_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ordain_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n as_o if_o the_o meaning_n be_v advance_v presbyter_n in_o every_o city_n to_o the_o office_n of_o bishop_n but_o this_o be_v a_o stretch_n upon_o the_o word_n which_o it_o can_v bear_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d plain_o signify_v to_o constitute_v and_o ordain_v and_o when_o the_o person_n be_v mention_v it_o be_v in_o the_o capacity_n to_o which_o they_o be_v ordain_v not_o from_o which_o they_o be_v advance_v as_o aristot_n in_o polit_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o instauration_n of_o prince_n and_o plutarch_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 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7._o the_o power_n of_o order_n by_o all_o writer_n that_o ever_o i_o can_v see_v even_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v understand_v to_o be_v immediate_o from_o christ_n give_v to_o all_o bishop_n and_o priest_n alike_o by_o their_o consecration_n and_o it_o be_v very_o considerable_a what_o dr._n bernard_n mention_n concern_v archbishop_n usher_n opinion_n in_o this_o case_n 135._o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o late_a a._n b._n of_o armagh_n p._n 134_o 135._o wherein_o we_o have_v this_o historical_a passage_n that_o in_o 1609_o when_o the_o scotch_a bishop_n be_v to_o be_v consecrate_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o london_n ely_n and_o bath_n a_o question_n be_v move_v by_o dr._n andrews_n bishop_n of_o ely_n whether_o they_o must_v not_o first_o be_v ordain_v presbyter_n as_o have_v receive_v no_o ordination_n from_o a_o bishop_n the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n dr._n bancroft_n who_o be_v present_a maintain_v that_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n for_o it_o see_v where_o 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