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A36252 A reply to Mr. Baxter's pretended confutation of a book entituled, Separation of churches from episcopal government, &c. proved schismatical to which are added, three letters written to him in the year 1673, concerning the possibility of discipline under a diocesan-government ... / by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1681 (1681) Wing D1817; ESTC R3354 153,974 372

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