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authoritatem_fw-la meretur_fw-la mal._n in_o joh._n 6._o num_fw-la 68_o maldonat_n the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o that_o saint_n austen_n be_v a_o author_n of_o that_o esteem_n that_o his_o opinion_n be_v it_o neither_o prove_v by_o scripture_n nor_o reason_n nor_o any_o other_o author_n yet_o the_o sole_a reverence_n of_o his_o person_n deserve_v sufficient_a authority_n of_o itself_o here_o be_v a_o ample_a testimony_n touch_v the_o great_a light_n of_o the_o western_a church_n but_o look_v we_o back_o to_o the_o jesuit_n proceed_v in_o that_o very_a tract_n upon_o the_o same_o chap._n within_o six_o forego_v verse_n of_o the_o same_o text_n where_o he_o give_v this_o free_a &_o full_a approbation_n of_o this_o learned_a father_n and_o find_v that_o s._n austin_n exposition_n of_o a_o other_o scripture_n do_v disagree_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n 62._o non_fw-la nego_fw-la i_o huim_fw-la interpretationis_fw-la authorem_fw-la neminem_fw-la habere_fw-la sed_fw-la hanc_fw-la eo_fw-la magis_fw-la probo_fw-la quam_fw-la illam_fw-la alteram_fw-la augustini_fw-la caeteraâunalioqui_fw-la probatissimam_fw-la quòd_fw-la haec_fw-la cum_fw-la caluinistarum_fw-la sensu_fw-la magis_fw-la pugnat_fw-la mald._n in_o joh._n 6_o n_o 62._o and_o accord_v whole_o with_o the_o protestant_a faith_n instant_o as_o it_o be_v with_o the_o same_o breath_n cry_v out_o against_o he_o i_o confess_v i_o have_v no_o author_n for_o my_o exposition_n but_o i_o rather_o allow_v it_o then_o that_o of_o austin_n although_o his_o of_o the_o rest_n be_v most_o probable_a because_o this_o of_o i_o do_v more_o across_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o caluinist_n i_o will_v descend_v into_o particular_n and_o notwithstanding_o our_o adversary_n great_a brag_n of_o st._n austen_n i_o will_v give_v you_o instance_n in_o many_o principal_a point_n of_o doctrine_n wherein_o they_o plain_o intimate_v by_o their_o own_o confession_n he_o be_v whole_o we_o 1._o touch_v the_o proof_n of_o purgatory_n whereas_o saint_n paul_n say_v 3._o 1_o cor._n 3._o the_o fire_n shall_v try_v every_o man_n work_n of_o what_o sort_n it_o be_v for_o the_o day_n shall_v declare_v it_o 16_o aug._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o oper_n c._n 16_o st._n austen_n interpret_v by_o this_o fire_n be_v mean_v the_o fire_n of_o tribulation_n in_o this_o world_n 5._o bell_n de_fw-fr pur._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 5._o but_o this_o opinion_n of_o his_o we_o have_v reject_v say_v bellarmine_n 2._o saint_n austen_n say_v when_o peter_n receive_v the_o key_n he_o represent_v the_o holy_a church_n 50._o §_o quarto_o aug._n tract_n in_o joh._n 50._o and_o therefore_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v not_o give_v to_o peter_n only_o albertus_n pigghius_n be_v a_o witness_n against_o he_o that_o he_o be_v the_o only_a man_n 4._o de_fw-fr augustino_n possem_fw-la dicere_fw-la quod_fw-la unus_fw-la homo_fw-la fuerit_fw-la hâc_fw-la in_o re_fw-la nec_fw-la firmitèr_fw-la secum_fw-la nec_fw-la cum_fw-la aliis_fw-la consentiens_fw-la hier._n eccles_n lib_n 6_o cap._n 4._o who_o in_o this_o point_n neither_o agree_v constant_o with_o himself_o nor_o with_o other_o 3._o saint_n austen_n say_v by_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o prophet_n malachi_n be_v mean_v the_o prayer_n and_o praise_n of_o saint_n azorius_fw-la make_v answer_v 346._o aug._n lib._n 2_o contr_n light_v cap_n â6_n reliquum_fw-la veterum_fw-la patrun_v coetum_fw-la atponimê°_n et_fw-la council_n tridentini_n testimonium_fw-la azor._fw-la instit_fw-la moral_n part_n 1._o l._n â0_n c._n 11._o aug_n contr_n adim_n c._n 12._o jewel_n art_n 12_o pa_n 346._o we_o oppose_v against_o he_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o other_o father_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 4._o st._n austen_n say_v christ_n speak_v these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v a_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n master_n hardin_n make_v answer_v that_o st._n austen_n fight_v against_o the_o manichee_n oftentimes_o use_v not_o his_o own_o 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quam_fw-la tridentinun_n concilium_fw-la nuper_fw-la merito_fw-la damnavit_fw-la omne_fw-la infidelium_fw-la opera_fw-la esse_fw-la peccata_fw-la quamuis_fw-la maximum_fw-la authorem_fw-la diwm_fw-la augustinun_n habuisse_fw-la videatur_fw-la mald._a com._n in_o math._n 7.18_o the_o work_n which_o be_v do_v without_o faith_n though_o they_o seem_v good_a be_v turn_v into_o sin_n maldonat_a answer_n we_o may_v not_o defend_v that_o opinion_n which_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v of_o late_o just_o condemn_v although_o the_o great_a father_n s._n austen_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o that_o opinion_n 8._o saint_n austen_n say_v he_o crow_v thou_o deform_a coronat_fw-la te_fw-la quia_fw-la dona_fw-la sva_fw-la coronat_fw-la non_fw-la merita_fw-la tua_fw-la aug._n in_o psal_n 100l_n bish_n in_o his_o refor_o of_o a_o cathol_n deform_a because_o he_o crow_v his_o own_o gift_n not_o thy_o merit_n m._n bishop_n protest_v that_o saint_n austen_n be_v too_o wise_a to_o let_v any_o such_o foolish_a sentence_n to_o pass_v his_o pen._n 9_o saint_n austen_n say_v i_o know_v certain_a worshipper_n of_o tomb_n and_o picture_n 16._o august_n de_fw-fr mor._n eccles_n li._n 1._o c._n 34._o bell._n