Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	believe_v	faith_n	word_n	7,647	5	4.8713	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A03584	The ansvvere of Mr. Richard Hooker to a supplication preferred by Mr Walter Travers to the HH. Lords of the Privie Counsell	Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Jackson, Henry, 1586-1662.	1612 (1612)	STC 13706; ESTC S104190	20,605	36

blind Alley or vttered where none was to heare it that had skill with authoritie to controll or covertly insinuated by some glyding sentence 8 That which I taught was at Paules Crosse it was not hudled in amongst other matters in such sort that it could passe without noting it was opened it was proued it was some reasonable time stood vpon I see not which way my L. of London who was present and heard it can excuse so great a fault as patiently without rebuke or controlement afterwardes to heare any man there teach otherwise then the word of God doth not as it is vnderstood by the privat interpretation of some one or two men or by a speciall construction receaued in some few bookes but as it is vnderstood by all Churches professing the Gospell by them all and therefore even by our owne also amongst others A man that did mean to proue that he speaketh would surely take the measure of his words shorter 9 The next thing discovered is an opinion about the assurance of mens perswasion in matters of faith J haue taught he saith That the assurance of things which we beleeue by the word is not so certaine as of that we perceiue by sence And is it as certaine Yea J taught as hee himselfe J trust will not deny that the things which God doth promise in his word are surer vnto vs then anything we touch handle or see but are we so sure certaine of them if we bee why doth God so often proue his promises vnto vs as hee doth by arguments taken from our sensible experience Wee must be surer of the proofe then of the thing proved otherwise it is no proofe How is it that if ten men doe all look vpon the moone every one of them knoweth it as certainely to be the moon as another but many beleeving one and the same promises all haue not one and the same fulnesse of perswasion How falleth it out that men being assured of any thing by sence can bee no surer of it then are whereas the strongest in faith that liveth vpon the earth hath alwaies need to labour and striue and pray that his assurance concerning heavenly and spirituall things may grow increase and be augmented 10 The Sermon wherein J haue spoken somewhat largely of this point was long before this late cōtroversie rose betweene him and me vpon request of some of my friends seene read by many amongst many some who are thought able to discerne and J never heard that any one of them hitherto hath condemned it as containing vnsound matter My case were very hard if as oft as any thing J speake displeasing one mans tast my doctrine vpon his only word should bee taken for sower leven 11 The rest of this discoverie is all about the matter now in question wherein hee hath two faults predominant which would tyre out any that should answer vnto every point severally vnapt speaking of schoole controversies and of my wordes sometimes so vntoward a reciting that hee which should promise to drawe a mans countenance and did indeed expresse the parts at leastwise the most of them truly but perversely place them could not represent a more offensiue visage then vnto me my owne speech seemeth in some places as he hath ordered it For answere wherevnto that writing is sufficient wherein J haue set down both my words and meaning in such sort that were this accusation doth depraue the one and either misinterpret or without iust cause mislike the other it will appeare so plainely that J may spare very well to take vpon me a new and a needlesse labour here 12 Only at one thing which is there to be found because Mr Travers doth here seeme to take such a speciall advantage as if the matter were vnanswerable hee constraineth me either to detect his oversight or to confesse mine owne in it In setting the question betweene the Church of Rome and vs about Grace and Iustification least J should giue them an occasion to say as commonly they doe that when wee cannot refute their opinions we propose to our selues such insteed of theirs as we can refute J tooke it for the best and most perspicuous way of teaching to declare first how far we doe agree and then to shew our disagreement not generally as Mr Travers his words would carrie it for the easier fast ning that vpon me wherwith saving only by him J was never in my life touched but about the matter only of iustificatiō for farther J had no cause to medle at that time What was then my offence in this case I did as hee saith so set it out as if wee had consented in the greatest and waightiest points differed onely in smaller matters Jt will not bee found when it commeth to the ballance a light differēce where we disagree as I did acknowledge that we doe about the very essence of the medicine wherby Christ cureth our disease Did J goe about to make a shew of agreement in the waightiest points and was J so fond as not to conceale our disagreement about this J doe wish that some indifferencie were vsed by them that haue taken the waighing of my words 13 Yea but our agreement is not such in two of the chiefest points as J would haue men beleeue it is and what are they The one is J said They acknowledge all men sinners even the blessed Virgin though some of thē free her from sinne Put the case J had affirmed that onely some of them free her from sinne and had delivered it as the most currant opinion amongst them that shee was conceaued in sin doth not Bonaventure say plainely Omnes ferè In a manner all men doe hold this both he not bring many reasons wherefore all men should hold it Were their voices since that time ever counted and their number found smaller which hold it then theirs that hold the contrary Let the question then be whether J might say the most of them acknowledged all men sinners even the blessed Virgin her selfe To shew that their generall receiued opinion is the contrarie the Tridentine Councell is alleaged peradventure not altogether so considerately For if that Councell haue by resolute determinatiō freed her if it hold as M. Travers saith it doth that shee was free from sin then must the Church of Rome needs condemne thē that holde the contrarie For what that Councell holdeth the same they all doe and must hold But in the Church of Rome who knoweth not that it is a thing indifferent to thinke and defend the one or the other So that by this argument the Councell of Trent holdeth the Virgin free from sinne Ergo it is plaine that none of them may and therefore vntrue that most of them doe acknowledge her a sinner were forcible to overthrowe my supposed assertion if it were true that the Councell did hold this But to the end it may clearely appeare how it neither holdeth this nor