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A46824 The state of the case, briefly but impartially given betwixt the people called Quakers, Pensilvania, &c. in America, who remain in unity, and George Keith, with some few seduced by him into a separation from them as also a just vindication of my self from the reproaches and abuses of those backsliders / by Samuel Jennings. Jennings, Samuel, d. 1708. 1694 (1694) Wing J670; ESTC R3996 38,369 87

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no man upon the Face of the Earth ●at believeth and professeth it more than himself ●ere he seems to acknowledge the sufficiency ●f the Light as much as those he quarrels ●ith But he endeavours to suggest and ●ould sednce the unwary into a Belief that ●y our Acknowledgment thereof we deny and exclude the Man Christ Jesus and all the Bene●●s and Blessings that accrue to Mankind by him 〈◊〉 this be a Necessary Consequence it will fall as ●ell on him But as I do not believe he ●er intended so though I do not find in ei●er of the places before-cited by rue he ●ards at all against it so if he could have ●ercised the same Charity towards his Abused ●ethren in America he mihgt have spared ●s Charge in that matter against them having been so often and solemnly told by us That we did believe all that 's Recorded in Sacred Writ concerning our Blessed Saviour And not only believe it Historically but also that we through a living Faith in him who is the Author of all true Faith are reconciled to God through him who is the only way to the Father And that we do expect and believe that as we are preferved in the Path of Righteousness we shall also through the Grace and Bounty of God have a part in that purchased Inheritance which our Blessed Lord Jesus hath purchased for his with his precious Blood This and much more to the same Effect hath bee● often told him and it s well if he have no● sinned against Knowledge in this Matter But to strengthen his Charge against us he saith Reason c. p. 9 That W. 〈◊〉 A●tient Preacher meaning William Stockdel did at the same Monthly Meeting viz. t●● 29th of the 11th Month at Philadelphia 〈◊〉 new his former Accusation against him cha●●ing him openly in the Face of the Meeting That he Preached Two Christs because he Prea●●ed Faith in Christ within and in Christ w●● out us c. I confess though I was not 〈◊〉 that Meeting I have great reason to believe that W. Stockdell did not so affirm them because I observe in the Judgment afterward given forth against him by Friends they s●● That W. S. denied the words so spoken But the proceeded against him upon the Evidence 〈◊〉 Two Persons that he said so viz. W. B. and J. M. Now had it been spoken in the Face of the Meeting the Meeting must have heard it and would not have needed the Evidences of the Two Persons aforesaid but might have proceeded and I believe would to have given Judgment against him on their own Knowledge But if ever W. did say That he apprehended he preached Two Christs I cannot easily believe that he assigned that as the Ground of it because he preached Faith in Christ within and without as G. K. labours to insinuate which I have heard him often solemnly to deny But this I have heard him to confess That his speaking so much and so frequently of Christ without and Christ within might give ground to some to suspect he preached Two Christs and that the preaching of a Christ without and a Christ within was to preach Two Christs However the Two Witnesses say it and the Meeting accordingly gives Judgment against it And tho' the Credibility or Incredibility of the Witnesses goes a great way with the Judicous to satisfie them of the Truth of their Evidence or the contrary yet Judgment commonly goes according to Evidence Whence it is that sometimes the Innocent are injured yet the Judges clear of it Now as to these Two Witnesses they were much at the Devotion of G. K. and his creatures to use as he pleased one of them being W. B. the Printer whose Baseness and Treachery to his Benefactors in Pensylvania who at no inconsiderable Cost encouraged 〈◊〉 Press there and how much it was after war●● used to Abuse them is too well known tob●● covered The other viz. Joh. M' Comb 〈◊〉 Countreyman of G. K's though under Obligations strong enough to W. S. to have bound any Man of Common Civility to him for his Kindness to and Care of him in the Tim when he wanted i● yet he must be the Inst●ment of this mischief and strife by a sly unmanly ungrateful way in a Visit to W. S. 〈◊〉 pump him by Questions concerning G. K. An he being more free than discreet in his Coverse with him away he goes to G. K. t● way of a Common Tale-bearer and aggnvates what he had in a sort extorted from W. S. which so incensed G. K. that he quick comes with these his Two Witnesses and liberally bestwos his Anathema Maranatha upon W. S. without more ado telling him 〈◊〉 was an Ignorant Heathen not worthy of any pl●● in the Assembly of Friends Though I har●● heard by divers that knew his coming for● which was early and his Labour and Service in and for the Truth and his Success there in for the gathering many to it that there he was no whit behind to say no more the Person that so Treated him Thus began the Difference betwixt these Two Persons and thus was it heightened And although Friend did never justifie the words which the T●● Witnesses affirmed were spoken by W. S. yet because Judgment against W. was not giver in his way and Time although his own Turbulency was the great Obstruction he therefore sticks not to Vnchristian many whom he sometime owned for his Brethren charging them with denying the Lord that bought them affirming that they owned no other Christ but the Light within excluding the Man Christ Jesus from having any share in the Work of our Salvation And this he would have the World believe is the Ground of the Difference betwixt him and us and all our opposition to him and Testimonies against him is because God hath raised him up Zealously to Witness to those great Truths and fundamental Doctrines of Christianity denied by some rejected by others and meanly esteemed by too many I Consess the pretence is plausible and had it as much of Truth as it hath of Falshood in it he were to be commended and encouraged But what manner of Person must he be if he ●ath falsely Accused the Innocent Which 〈◊〉 affirm on the behalf of my self and believe for all that are in Communion with and generally owned by the People called Quakers he ●ath done and that knowingly too concerning very many that he hath heard often Declare their Faith in the aforesaid particulars ●nd what else is necessary to be believed and owned by true Christians all which he is as much obliged to believe as any body else is 〈◊〉 believe him in the like kind And it 's but a poor Shift for him to say as he hath sometimes done when in America we endeavoured his satisfaction and to remove his Jealousies concerning us in matters of Faith I will not believe you you walk in the Clouds and have mental Reservations and no● withstanding your scriptural Confession
you ha● a Sense contrary to Scripture At this Rat●● who can be secure in their Religious Reputation But I know the way he useth to take to Condemn by wholesale There are says he amongst you some that I have detected of Err●● which you by Cloaking and Covering have m●● your selves equally guilty with If this be true I say so too But I challenge him to nam● the Person amongst us that any orderly Complaint hath been made against and the matte proved that hath been Cloaked yea the hath not been testified against if they refuse to Clear Truth in any thing whereby a Scandal through their Means was brought upon 〈◊〉 either by Principle or Practice And at the last Yearly Meeting at Philadelphia a Minute w● made That great Care should be taken that 〈◊〉 any amongst us had given any Just Cause 〈◊〉 Offence they should be orderly dealt withal the Truth might be Cleared and the offence remove So that I think all his Pretences of Friend Cloaking c. in America are taken awya and will be no more a Cloak for him to Cove his false Accusations against them But because I find him so bitterly to Envy against a Person whom I am well assured he Abuses and Misrepresents I shall do him that Justice to speak my Knowledge of him in a matter wherein he G. K. doth highly and frequently Charge him Plea c. p. 5. Many are Witnesses saith he how at the School-house-Meeting as well as at these other Meetings aforesaid Tho. Lloyd Argued that Faith in Christ without us as he died for our Sins c. and rose again was not necessary to our Salvation I Confess I was not at that School-house-Meeting but since he refers to other Meetings before wherein he suggests him to have Argued in like manner I do remember that at other times and once especially I was present at a Discourse relating to that matter but the Question was not Whether Faith in Christ without us as he died for our Sins and Rose again was not necessary to Our Salvation But Whether that Faith were Indispensibly necessary to all Mankind and that none could be ●aved without it though they had not the Means Opportunity or Capacity to know or receive it Which will Include a great Part of Mankind is namely all those that have not the Use of ●he Holy Scriptures nor the Advantage of ●earing it Preached to them which will Affect many great Nations as also all Infants Deaf and Dumb Persons c. But G. K. ha●ing affirmed before That this Faith is indipensibly necessary to all occasioned the Discourse and carries with it a very harsh and uncharitable Judgment upon all that part of Mankind before mentioned Which I know not what can palliate but the strange Notion of the Revolution of Humane Souls Which makes it more than Probable that they shall have Opportunity one time or other before the End of the World of Hearing this Faith and Doctrine Preached and may receive it though now they die without it But this Point must be tenderly touched now because few are ripe for it Yet how far he hath Countenanced it is known to many Further he then said to Tho. Lloyd That if he were not of the same Faith he could not o●● him as his Christian Brother but yet he might be a Devout Heathen Now see the Fallacy of this he would suggest that T. Ll. made the Faith of Christ Crucified a very Indifferently thing Indefinitely when as then and many other times I have heard him Affirm That he di● believe it to be Our Duty who had the Advantag of having the holy Scriptures and hearing t●● Faeith Preached to receive and believe it I sha● say no more on this matter believing that none that know T. Ll. can Impartially Judge him Guilty of any thing so Antichristian I have thus far according as I premised given an Account of the Matter of the Difference in America as is pretended on his part and I hope I have also shown how little Real Ground there was for it But my Reader must not Expect that I should follow him in all his vain and frivolous Charges for that were to swell a Volume far beyond my Intention or Time It remains now that I give an Account what was then the Real Cause of this Unhappy Breach and Difference Which I will endeavour to do Candidly Cautiously and Truly The General Cause I take to be an Vnbounded Ambition in G. K. which had blown him up into such Towering Thoughts of himself as made him a very uneasie Member of any Society either Civil or Religious of which he hath given too pregnant Proofs as I shall shew hereafter He first began and sought a Qnarrel with the New-England-men making it his practice in many places where he came to Challenge Disputes with the Professors and Priests which ●ow little it redunded to Truth 's Advantage ● am a Witness being then in N. England with him And truly the Spirit and Temper ●n which he managed it being with great deat and Rage was a certain Indication to me ●hat he designed Victory and Vain Glory rather ●●an Edification In which I was the more ●●nfirmed by his Common Insults where he ●●ought he had any Advantage For it s a Maxime with me That who ever the Lord 〈◊〉 emploies in any Service of his he furnishes 〈◊〉 and abilitates with his own Spirit in the Dis●● charge thereof And how Contrary that is 〈◊〉 a Spirit of Wrath and Bitterness I leave to ●● determined by such as know the Fruits of ●ach And this single Observation hath been enough to many and one would think might be to all were they but Indifferent to satisfie them of the Nature of G. K's Work even the Spirit in which it s Acted Doth he exceed others in his Love and Zeal for God how comes he then to have so little of the Love of God shed abroad in his heart which teaches to Love Enemies but he hath not spared vilely to Abuse his Friends Is he under more than a Common Constraint to preach and Exalt the sufferings and Death c. of our blessed Saviour how comes he then to have so little of his Suffering Spirit and Image upon him And will he say he loveth God while he hateth his Brother Let him remember the Character due to such an one But I Confess I have made a little Digression by Expressing my own sentiments bu● shall now Return again to matter of Fact G. K. not having sufficiently vented himself by the Controversie he had with the New-Englanders he turns the point of his Weapon upon those he then owned and called his Friend And begins first about Church-Discipline conplaining That there was too great a Laxn●● therein For the Amendment of which b● presents a Paper to the Meeting of Ministring Friends in order to have it published and put ●● to practice But there being many things i● it which seemed very uncouth and