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sumptâ_fw-la ex_fw-la merito_fw-la objecti_fw-la certitudinem_fw-la carum_fw-la veritatum_fw-la quae_fw-la includuntur_fw-la in_o ipsius_fw-la objecto_fw-la &_o in_o quibus_fw-la fundatur_fw-la illa_fw-la certitudo_fw-la mart._n tom._n 5._o disp_n 20._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la sect._n 8._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n write_v that_o supernatural_a faith_n can_v with_o a_o formal_a certainty_n take_v from_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o object_n exceed_v the_o certainty_n of_o those_o truth_n which_o be_v include_v in_o its_o object_n and_o in_o which_o that_o certainty_n be_v found_v since_o therefore_o the_o persuasion_n which_o papist_n have_v of_o what_o they_o believe_v either_o be_v or_o be_v think_v to_o be_v divine_a faith_n it_o hence_o appear_v that_o it_o can_v be_v solid_a unless_o they_o be_v assure_v by_o divine_a faith_n or_o some_o other_o not_o inferior_a persuasion_n that_o both_o the_o rule_n of_o their_o faith_n be_v true_a and_o that_o what_o they_o believe_v be_v entire_o 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