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A49777 William Rogers's Christian Quaker, manifested to be antichristian by Thomas Lawrence of Marlbrough. Lawrence, Thomas, 1645?-1714. 1681 (1681) Wing L689A; ESTC R221692 4,101 16

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William Rogers's Christian QUAKER Manifested to be Antichristian BY Thomas Lawrence OF MARLBROVGH LONDON Printed for Benjamin Clark in Georgeyard in Lombard-street 1681. WILLIAM ROGERS's Christian QUAKER Manifested to be ANTICHRISTIAN WIlliam Rogers of Bristol in behalf of himself and his Friends with him concerned hath Written a Book against Apostates containing 100 Sheets of Paper price 4 s. 4 d. In Answer to that Book Thomas Lawrence of Marlbrough their opponent hath Written a Book against Separatists containing one Sheet of Paper price one half Penny Perspicuity and Brevity are two chief points in writing that is plain and short But this Voluminous Book of William Rogers and his Friends concerned is neither plain nor short but Ambiguous and Tedious Doubtful and Long Loaded with many Letters Suppositions and Jeallousies Reïterations and Parentheses many and long objections and observations that will both trouble and weary the Reader More to the purpose you might have Written in the tenth part of the Paper having so many in Council to make a Book And Children of Light too as you call Note that envious Spirit slanderous to truth and the ground of differences and contention whereof you charge your opposers it will fall upon your own Heads like a Milstone nor is it likely that your Book will gather any one to your side that hath any sence of truth in them but rather cause many to depart from you Thou beginnest thy Preface with Christ's saying As I hear I Judge that is hear the party not report William Rogers didst thou ever hear George Fox advise Nathaniel Crips and Robert Arch to buy their Tythes or hearsay didst thou ever hear G. F. advise Mary Penington to hide or secure her goods from the Spoilers in time of danger else thou hast judged by hearsay Notwithstanding thou did'st hide some part of thy own goods and use many arguments for hiding goods as appears in the first part of your Book Page 32 33. Thou hast muddled that point as thou hast many others in your Book that were plain enough before why had'st thou not made it more intelligible and plain as how much goods may be hid what sorts of goods and who may do it Thou hast abused George Fox double first judged him by heare-say secondly judged him for advising to hide goods in any case and yet do it thy self in some case condemning another and do the same things so thou art inexcusable In your second part you treat on principles of Religion but not so satisfying as was done by Ancient Faithful Labourers in the Ministery by Word and Writing Doctrine and Government You Preach up Doctrine but leave out Christ's Government and so you are rightly called Separates putting asunder what God hath joyned together Parting Husband and Wife cutting off the Body from the Head as if they were all Traytors you name your selves in a peculiar manner Children of Light what are none else Children of Light but William Rogers and his Friends concern'd Sure enough your Book is a work of Darkness as appears for you have asserted many things in your Book that are not true Your first Assertion is That some say that God hath Anointed and chosen George Fox to be in that place among the Children of Light in our day as Moses was among the Children of Israel in his day to set up forms of Church-Government part first pag. 9. This you charge on them you call your opposers Now it is your part to prove who they are or if any such be thou knowst not whether George Fox doth own their Testimony Second Assertion You charge your opposers as you call them with Folly and Hypocrisie that profess themselves members of the true Church and believe as the Church believes Answer To believe as the Church believes for no other reason but because the Church so believes Whether the Church of England or Church of Rome is Popery but to believe as the true Church believes is true faith not FOR but AS but your sence concerning them you call your opposers is That they believe as others do without Gods grace in their hearts which you can never prove Third Assertion The place of Christs Government is only within in the heart part first page 29. Q. Who then shall govern in the Life What Scripture have you for the word only within You quote Esay the 9th but that Scripture is against you and saith Christ's Government is upon his Soulders that is without the parable in the Light opens it self declaring Christ's Divine and Humane Nature One God begin at the 6 v. Vnto us a Child is Born his Human Nature unto us a Son is given his divine Nature one Lord one King one Government not divided but in unity with his members Christ is not suffering now by himself in Heaven but suffering together with his members on Earth bearing up his Government in them and suffering with them within and without Saul Saul why persecutest thou me in all their afflictions I was afflicted pressed as a Cart with Sheavs The increase of his Government and peace have no end but the Separates will have no increase of Christs Government no more than was in the beginning then no increase of peace there will be but Wrangling and Differences with such Fourth Assertion It is repugnant to the Light in our consciences to believe that Christs Government should rest upon any Man or Men to be rulers over others Answer These and the like words of governing ruling and lording over others is so often charged and so much of the Book spent and so little or nothing proved that it doth manifest the Author of this Book to be more crazy and flashy then sollid and weighty yet still trying up the Light within and are not in it None more able to betray his Master than a Disciple none could more advantagiously betray his Master than a Judas What a sad thing it is for any to lose a good condition and not know it nor will they know if one should tell them Fifth Assertion That George Fox was the first that did begin the difference among Friends by setting up Monthly and Quarterly Meetings Answer The body of faithful Friends agreed that the Monthly and Quarterly Meetings were set up by the Spirit and Power of Christ through G. Fox not by imposition upon but recommendation to the Church John Wilkinson and John Story both said they would not say They were not set up by the Power yet John Story said another time He would not say they were or were not the third time John Story said He did not believe George Fox had Gods Spirit to do it by and John Wilkinson said to me and others He did not own the Monthly and Quarterly Meetings when they were first set up If this be not confusion what is Nathaniel Crips in his answer to my Book concerning the Man of Sin revealed said He did not own George Fox's orders many years before he knew any Man