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A05212 A disputation of the Church wherein the old religion is maintained. V.M.C.F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; F. E., fl. 1629. 1629 (1629) STC 15348; ESTC S100251 235,937 466

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it_o seem_v to_o the_o exterior_a sense_n that_o be_v plain_a bread_n compare_v this_o to_o the_o father_n word_n and_o judge_v of_o the_o difference_n in_o this_o point_n 46._o fourthlie_o out_o of_o the_o former_a place_n of_o the_o father_n it_o be_v further_a clear_a that_o they_o believe_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v the_o same_o body_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o the_o same_o blood_n which_o issue_v out_o of_o his_o side_n to_o be_v in_o the_o chalice_n i_o will_v add_v a_o place_n or_o two_o more_o of_o this_o 10._o s._n aug._n l._n 12._o count_n faust_n c._n 10._o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n have_v a_o loud_a voice_n on_o earth_n when_o all_o nation_n have_v receive_v it_o do_v answer_n amen_o this_o be_v the_o shrill_a voice_n of_o blood_n which_o the_o blood_n itself_o do_v make_v out_o of_o the_o a_o mouth_n of_o the_o faithful_a redeem_v with_o the_o same_o blood_n neoph._n v._o beda_n in_o c._n 10_o pri_fw-la cor._n ex_fw-la s._n aug._n 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that_o thou_o do_v not_o touch_v it_o only_o but_o also_o do_v eat_v it_o and_o eat_v of_o it_o return_v to_o thy_o house_n 6._o s._n chrys_n de_fw-mi sacerd_v l._n 6._o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n the_o angel_n stand_v about_o the_o priest_n and_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o the_o celestial_a power_n do_v make_v a_o noise_n and_o the_o place_n round_o about_o the_o g_o altar_n be_v full_a of_o angelical_a quire_n in_o honour_n of_o he_o who_o h_o be_v there_o sacrifice_v which_o thing_n those_o will_v believe_v easy_o who_o do_v consider_v the_o great_a sacrifice_n which_o be_v then_o do_v 47._o the_o protestant_a opinion_n blood_n
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of_o jerico_fw-la he_o lift_v up_o his_o eye_n 13.14.15.16_o jos_n 5._o v._n 13.14.15.16_o and_o see_v a_o man_n stand_v against_o he_o hold_v a_o draw_a sword_n and_o he_o go_v unto_o he_o and_o say_v be_v thou_o we_o or_o our_o adversary_n who_o answer_v no._n but_o i_o be_o a_o prince_n of_o the_o host_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o now_o i_o come_v josue_n fall_v flat_a on_o the_o ground_n and_o adore_v he_o say_v what_o speak_v my_o lord_n to_o his_o servant_n loose_a magn_n we_o have_v need_n of_o a_o mediator_n to_o christ_n our_o mediator_n s._n bern._n serm_n sig_n magn_n say_v he_o thy_o shoe_n from_o thy_o foot_n for_o the_o place_n wherein_o thou_o do_v stand_v be_v holy_a and_o josue_n do_v as_o it_o be_v command_v he_o 47._o next_o concern_v saint_n and_o angel_n though_o we_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v they_o our_o principal_a mediator_n for_o the_o chief_a mediator_n be_v jesus_n christ_n 10._o appar_fw-la vide_fw-la cyrill_n l._n 12._o thesaur_n c._n 10._o god_n and_o man_n yet_o we_o believe_v that_o their_o subordinate_a mediation_n to_o speak_v with_o s._n bernard_n and_o intercession_n and_o prayer_n in_o particular_a for_o we_o rely_v on_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v profitable_a to_o we_o agreeable_a to_o their_o happy_a estate_n and_o presidencie_n and_o conformable_a to_o the_o scripture_n you_o say_v no._n calu._n 1_o instit_fw-la c._n 14._o &_o 3._o c._n 20._o christus_fw-la solus_fw-la populi_fw-la vota_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la defert_fw-la ibid._n §_o 20._o the_o scripture_n the_o angel_n of_o our_o lord_n say_v intercession_n zach._n 1.12_o see_v also_o dan._n 10._o intercession_n o_o lord_n of_o host_n how_o long_o will_v thou_o not_o have_v mercy_n on_o jerusalem_n and_o on_o the_o city_n of_o juda_n with_o which_o thou_o have_v be_v angry_a and_o in_o the_o revelation_n of_o s._n john_n the_o four_o and_o twenty_o seniors_n or_o elder_n fall_v before_o the_o lamb_n 8_o apoc._n 5._o v._o 8_o have_v every_o one_o harp_n and_o 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