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A93387 Of the al-svfficient external proposer of matters of faith. Devided into tvvo bookes In the first. Is proved, that the true church of God, is the al-sufficient external proposer of matters of faith. In the second. Is shewed the manifold uncertanities of Protestants concerning the scripture: and how scripture is, or is not, an entire rule of faith. By C. R. doctor of diuinitie. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1653 (1653) Wing S4156; ESTC R228293 181,733 514

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it_o be_v to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a and_o infallible_a keeper_n and_o proposer_n of_o all_o truth_n and_o whitaker_n c._n citato_fw-la p._n 388._o confess_v that_o s._n ireney_n do_v appeal_v from_o scripture_n to_o church_n and_o to_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o say_v that_o heretic_n be_v to_o be_v refute_v by_o tradition_n which_o be_v to_o confess_v that_o s._n ireney_n thouht_v the_o church_n tradition_n infallible_a for_o else_o he_o have_v betray_v the_o christi●n_a cause_n in_o appeal_n from_o a_o infallible_a proposer_n to_o a_o fallible_a and_o have_v teach_v that_o heretic_n be_v to_o be_v refute_v by_o fallible_a mean_n 2._o s._n athanasius_n epist_n ad_fw-la epictetum_fw-la dispute_v against_o arian_n say_v we_o must_v answer_v only_o which_o alone_o suffice_v these_o thing_n be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o our_o ancestor_n think_v so_o behold_v the_o authority_n 239._o authority_n contrà_fw-la whitaker_n l._n 2._o the_o script_n p._n 239._o alone_o of_o the_o church_n account_v sufficient_a to_o refure_n heretic_n and_o if_o sufficient_a sure_o infallible_a 3._o s._n chrysostom_n in_o 2._o thessaly_n c._n 2._o it_o be_v a_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n ask_v no_o more_o which_o word_n be_v so_o plain_a for_o the_o sufficiency_n and_o infallibility_n of_o the_o churchestradition_n as_o it_o make_v whitaker_n c._n cit_fw-la p._n 391_o to_o cry_n it_o be_v au_o inconsiderate_a speech_n and_o unworthy_a tradition_n church_n infallible_a in_o universal_a tradition_n of_o so_o greata_fw-la father_n and_o chillingworth_n c._n 3._o n._n 45._o to_o confess_v that_o the_o church_n be_v ●nfallible_a in_o her_o universal_a tradition_n but_o not_o say_v he_o in_o all_o her_o decree_n or_o definition_n of_o controversy_n but_o what_o word_n of_o god_n warrant_v the_o church_n infallibility_n in_o her_o tradition_n and_o not_o in_o her_o definition_n of_o faith_n beside_o chillingworth_n c._n 2._o n._n 25._o and_o else_o where_o often_o and_o 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scripture_n and_o divine_a verity_n and_o ibid._n p._n 55._o whosoever_o ●ther_o wilful_o oppose_v any_o catholic_a verity_n mantein_v by_o this_o church_n of_o saint_n or_o the_o catholic_a visible_a church_n as_o do_v heretic_n their_o church_n heretic_n who_o oppose_v the_o visible_a church_n condition_n be_v damnable_a chillingworth_n in_o his_o preface_n n._n 16._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v support_v by_o those_o pillar_n of_o the_o faith_n which_o alone_o be_v fit_a and_o able_a to_o support_v it_o i_o mean_v scripture_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n behold_v the_o consent_n of_o ancient_a doctor_n a_o pillar_n of_o faith_n and_o able_a to_o support_v even_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n and_o n._n 28._o what_o be_v hold_v necessary_a by_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o this_o age_n i_o do_v very_o believe_v age_n church_n of_o this_o age_n and_o embrace_v c._n 1._o n._n 7._o i_o grant_v that_o christ_n found_v a_o visible_a church_n 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have_v no_o formal_a faith_n because_o they_o believe_v not_o for_o any_o formal_a authority_n or_o veracitie_n but_o for_o seem_a verity_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o find_v in_o scripture_n which_o seem_v verity_n may_v cause_v opinion_n but_o not_o true_a and_o formal_a faith_n but_o to_o admit_v that_o the_o original_a hand_n writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n know_v to_o be_v they_o have_v authority_n sufficient_a to_o beget_v divine_a faith_n how_o can_v mere_a copy_n of_o their_o writing_n and_o those_o make_v by_o fallible_a man_n as_o all_o bible_n now_o extant_a be_v make_v by_o ordinary_a writer_n or_o printer_n have_v themselves_o copy_n of_o authentical_a writing_n be_v not_o authentical_a of_o themselves_o such_o authority_n unless_o they_o be_v sign_v or_o testify_v by_o some_o authentical_a person_n that_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o original_n be_v mere_a copy_n of_o never_o so_o authentical_a writing_n make_v by_o private_a man_n but_o not_o testify_v by_o any_o of_o sufficient_a credit_n that_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o original_n of_o sufficient_a credit_n to_o beget_v humane_a undoubted_a beleif_n in_o any_o court_n of_o justice_n and_o will_v we_o have_v mere_a copy_n of_o the_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n writing_n make_v by_o fallible_a and_o ordinary_a man_n to_o be_v of_o themselves_o alone_o of_o sufficient_a credit_n to_o beget_v divine_a faith_n can_v not_o undoubted_a humane_a faith_n be_v get_v by_o such_o mere_a copy_n not_o attest_v by_o any_o authentical_a person_n and_o can_v undoubted_a divine_a faith_n because_v by_o such_o copy_n make_v by_o fallible_a man_n can_v reasonable_o be_v account_v infallible_a unless_o they_o be_v attest_v by_o some_o infallible_a person_n and_o it_o be_v the_o attestation_n of_o the_o infallible_a person_n which_o make_v they_o infallible_o credible_a to_o us._n wherefore_o out_o of_o that_o which_o i_o have_v hitherto_o say_v i_o argue_v formal_a what_o be_v only_o the_o material_a object_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o the_o formal_a thus_o in_o form_n what_o be_v only_o thematerial_a object_n of_o faith_n or_o be_v only_o beleve_v can_v be_v also_o the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o reason_n of_o beleve_v that_o which_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n write_v or_o unwritten_a be_v only_o the_o material_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o what_o be_v beleve_v therefore_o it_o can_v not_o be_v also_o the_o formal_a object_n and_o reason_n of_o beleve_v the_o mayor_n be_v evident_a the_o minor_a i_o prove_v because_o the_o word_n of_o god_n take_v by_o itself_o have_v no_o formal_a authority_n and_o only_o formal_a authority_n be_v the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n of_o beleve_v and_o here_o be_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o prophet_n apostle_n and_o church_n of_o god_n that_o these_o have_v formal_a divine_a authority_n in_o themselves_o and_o therefore_o be_v not_o only_o material_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o beleve_v to_o be_v prophet_n apostle_n church_n difference_n between_o scripture_n and_o church_n and_o church_n of_o god_n but_o also_o be_v formal_a external_a reason_n of_o beleve_v what_o they_o say_v themselves_o be_v or_o what_o else_o they_o propose_v 8._o a_o three_o proof_n that_o scripture_n of_o itself_o can_v sufficient_o propose_v itself_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v because_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o true_a church_n be_v the_o formal_a external_a cause_n for_o which_o in_o ordinary_a course_n the_o scripture_n be_v beleve_v with_o divine_a faith_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n this_o be_v evident_a out_o of_o those_o place_n in_o scripture_n which_o we_o cite_v before_o l._n 1._o c._n 11._o and_o 12._o which_v not_o only_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n preach_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v god_n word_n for_o to_o be_v beleve_v as_o such_o but_o also_o prove_v the_o very_a authority_n
authority_n of_o beleve_v and_o ibid._n c._n 4._o p._n 392._o our_o faith_n must_v rely_v upon_o a_o external_a 7._o external_a chill_a c._n 1._o n._n 7._o laud_v sect_n 33_o p._n 2._o 8_o field_n l._n 4._o c._n 7._o infallible_a mean_n and_o which_o be_v a_o external_a infallible_a mean_n cause_v faith_n potter_n sec_fw-la 5._o p._n 7._o the_o assent_n of_o divine_a faith_n be_v absolute_o divine_a which_o require_v a_o object_n and_o motive_n so_o infallible_o true_a as_o that_o it_o nether_a have_v nor_o can_v possible_o admit_v any_o mixture_n of_o error_n or_o falsehood_n and_o what_o external_a mean_n have_v man_n to_o believe_v ordinary_o before_o there_o be_v scripture_n but_o the_o church_n for_o what_o external_a infallible_a cause_n do_v they_o believe_v but_o for_o the_o church_n or_o be_v the_o beleif_n of_o every_o man_n for_o those_o 2400._o year_n prophetical_a or_o miraculous_a without_o any_o external_a infallible_a motive_n or_o cause_n what_o motive_n so_o 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l._n 1._o de_fw-fr script_n c_o 14._o sec_fw-la 4._o p._n 159._o those_o barbarian_n of_o who_o ireney_n speak_v who_o have_v salvation_n write_v in_o their_o heart_n be_v indeed_o true_a christian_n though_o they_o know_v not_o scripture_n but_o say_v he_o they_o be_v not_o simple_o ignorant_a of_o the_o scripture_n because_o they_o hold_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o i_o reply_v that_o scripture_n and_o doctrine_n of_o scripture_n be_v different_a and_o relative_o opposite_a moreover_o the_o doctrine_n of_o scripture_n be_v no_o proposer_n to_o believe_v but_o the_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v beleve_v and_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o proposer_n of_o point_n of_o faith_n not_o of_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n propose_v though_o therefore_o these_o barbarian_n beleve_v the_o doctrine_n which_o be_v in_o scripture_n yet_o they_o beleve_v not_o it_o by_o mean_n of_o scripture_n we_o therefore_o ask_v by_o what_o infallible_a external_a mean_n they_o beleve_v it_o if_o not_o by_o the_o church_n for_o some_o infallible_a mean_n they_o must_v have_v have_v to_o believe_v in_o ordinary_a course_n as_o whitaker_n and_o potter_n cite_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n confess_v and_o be_v evident_a and_o howsoever_o the_o doctrine_n or_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o scripture_n because_o it_o be_v the_o more_o principal_a part_n of_o scripture_n yet_o in_o this_o question_n of_o the_o proposer_n of_o point_n of_o faith_n it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o word_n scripture_n because_o the_o doctrine_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o be_v that_o which_o be_v to_o be_v sufficient_o propose_v and_o beleve_v and_o so_o it_o be_v not_o the_o proposer_n but_o the_o propose_v wherefore_o whitaker_n 259._o so_o also_o white_a in_o his_o way_n p._n 2d_o and_o in_o his_o defensep_n 259._o loco_fw-la iam_fw-la citato_fw-la and_o contro_n 1._o q._n 3._o c._n 10._o equivocate_v for_o when_o catholics_n argue_v that_o the_o church_n be_v ancient_a than_o scripture_n because_o it_o be_v before_o any_o scripture_n or_o that_o scripture_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o faith_n because_o diverse_a nation_n beleve_v without_o scripture_n he_o answer_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o ancient_a than_o the_o word_n of_o god_n none_o beleve_v without_o knowledge_n of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v in_o scripture_n for_o scripture_n be_v differuns_fw-la whitaker_n contr._n 2_o q._n 5._o c._n 19_o praedicatio_fw-la &_o verbum_fw-la ●c_z iptum_fw-la ratione_fw-la differuns_fw-la not_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o doctrine_n of_o god_n simple_o take_v but_o the_o word_n or_o doctrine_n of_o god_n write_v wherefore_o it_o be_v a_o sophism_n à_fw-la coniunctis_fw-la ad_fw-la divisa_fw-la to_o speak_v of_o god_n word_n simple_o when_o he_o shall_v speak_v of_o god_n word_n write_v for_o catholics_n speak_v of_o the_o word_n or_o doctrine_n of_o god_n write_v not_o simple_o take_v 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supra_fw-la c._n 5._o sec_fw-la 1._o only_a sufficient_a mean_n to_o believe_v either_o he_o mean_v by_o scripture_n the_o letter_n of_o scripture_n or_o the_o sense_n if_o the_o letter_n those_o barbarian_n have_v not_o nor_o blind_a and_o ignorant_a man_n have_v that_o mean_n to_o believe_v if_o the_o sense_n that_o be_v not_o the_o mean_n to_o believe_v but_o the_o object_n to_o be_v beleve_v and_o we_o ask_v what_o be_v the_o infallible_a external_a mean_n for_o to_o believe_v this_o sense_n for_o as_o whitaker_n say_v l._n 1_o de_fw-fr script_n p._n 151._o we_o seek_v some_o external_a mean_n for_o which_o we_o believe_v the_o scripture_n and_o contro_n 2._o q._n 4._o c._n 3._o to_o interpret_v scripture_n without_o mean_n be_v enthusiastical_a anabaptistical_n and_o extraordinary_a for_o the_o spirit_n now_o teach_v only_o by_o mean_n and_o such_o as_o the_o mean_n be_v such_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o interpretation_n 2._o protestant_n confession_n that_o all_o thing_n which_o 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