Region 94. And in all this we haue not iustly offended the King our Soueraigne let heauens Tribunall be witnesse of our innocency and we must against all detractions and calumniations of our vniust aduersaries plead yt also before your Matie And this same change in like manner will I hope and pray for in your Maiesty and with this hope will I for this time againe dutifully depart frō your Highnes and passe to the Christian Reader to examine now in particuler the foure heades most Prudently and Religiously proposed and resolued vpon by your Matie The God of Salomon inspire into your Princely breast the wisdome of Salomon and make your Matie as an Angell of god that you may discerne betwixt the right hand the left the right and the wronge Catholicke Religion and Hereticall innouation that you may be able to put a difference betwixt those of your Subiects that serue God and such as feare him not THE SECOND CHAPTER THAT TREATETH THE FIRST HEAD TOVCHED BY THE KINGS MAIESTY for try all of a Christian Catholicke which is the belieuing of holy Scriptures AMONGST those principall groundes seriously acknowledged and confidētly yet religiously auerred by his Excellent Matie of England for testifying conuincing himselfe to be a Christian Catholicke King and no Hereticke the first in place and order of method if we duly respect the inestimable weight of the diuine heauenly subiect was zealously asseuered by his Royall Person in these very wordes following to wit As for the Scriptures no man doubteth I will belieue them but euen for the Apocrypha I hold them in the same accompt that the Ancients did Which pious assertion of his Matie I for my part belieue with all my hart and be it euer farre from me to imagin otherwise of my Soueraigne in intertayning any the least sinister opinion or suspition but that He giueth his full consent and assent vnto all God his sacred Writ which He esteemeth to be Canonicall Scriptures and that He reuerenceth in like manner the other as heere he sayth distinguishing them by the names of Apocripha as writinges compiled by good and holy men but yet for such as are secundae lectionis or ordinis and not Canonicall or sufficient for so are his Maiesties wordes wherupon alone to ground any article of faith except it be confirmed by some other place of Canonicall Scripture So his Maiesty doth piousty I doubt not and with great discretion in his sense auerre 2. But yet I must ingenuously confesse that imploying my selfe somewhat seriously in my priuate meditatiōs and most secret silence about this subiect many difficulties occurred diuers were the Considerations that presented themselues vnto me as my mind began to be somewhat earnesty bent about this busines and these I haue thought good to impart vnto the Christian Reader in this place as they ensue The first Consideration AND first if this were all that on Scriptures behalfe there were no more to be required to proue make a man a Christian Catholicke but a franke and ingenious acknowledgement to assent vnto and to belieue all those Scriptures which we deeme for Canonicall in our opinion and for the sense to iudge it agreeable and correspondent to our own priuate imaginations I say if this were all all controuersies of Religion betwixt all parties neuer so opposite different in opinion might easily no doubt surcease and speedily without either further delay or difficulty be accorded for that all sides and parties do freely and voluntarily offer to professe this point and that as I verily thinke from their hartes 4. But alas this is neyther all nor any sound part of all all is but we deeme and we iudge this is Scripture and this is the sense here is nothing in all but that which marreth all that in the very maine point which should make all and that is proper choice priuate election which we know by that which hath bene formerly treated and sufficiently proued must needes be heresy and consequētly this mayne ground of Scripture it selfe thus from our selues taken and thus laid for auoiding of heresy openeth the very mayne gap vnto all heresy And yet I must here though now with no small griefe and vexation of spirit I do remember it liberally acknowledge that for some yeares togeather when I framed Religion in the shop of my owne brayne proper inuention and priuate glosses as all Sectaries vsually do I was so hartily affected sincerely as I thought delighted yea as it were rauished with this alluring consideration and best pleasing perswasion of Sacred Scriptures alone whose sole authority I seemed to my selfe then to follow and no other humane or terrene motiue whatsoeuer no not so much as once reflecting backe vpon the authority of the Church whence as I receaued the Scriptures themselues so much more ought I to haue receaued the sense as I thought my selfe more then halfe in heauen when God knoweth I was ready to tumble into the pit of hell thinking this way of the Scriptures alone of all other waies the most infallible and so certaine as that I could not possibly erre therby 5. And being in this peremptory presuming veine and straine of Scriptures to adde as it were fuell vnto the fire of this my strong conceipted imagination I often tymes remembred and with wonderfull admiration repeated yea reiterated againe and againe that animous couragious heroicall sentence and speach of Apostolicall and Propheticall fortitude as to me it then seemed of Luther himselfe who alleadging Scriptures for his cause and contemning all other proofes thus triumphantly insulted ouer King Henuy the eight Hic sto hic sedeo hic glorior hic triumpho hic insulto c. Here I stand here I sit here I do glory here I do triumph here I do insult ouer Papists Thomists Henricistes and Sophistes and all the gates of hell much more ouer the sayings of men be they neuer so holy God his word is aboue all the diuine Matie maketh for me so as I passe not if a thousand Augustines a thousand Cyprians and a thousand King Henries Churches should stand against me God cannot erre nor deceiue but Augustines and Cyprians may erre and haue erred So he 6. And truely this bould kind of free speach affected me very much as then for that it seemed to me simply to proceed out of the exceeding great confidence of his cause and me thought that I felt and perceiued some part and measure of the same spirit in my selfe at that time which brought me also to this peremptory resolution to wit that whatsoeuer I spake forth of Scriptures or could make but the least shew of wordes and warrant for out of Gods holy booke that must nedes be true certaine and infallible in the very selfe same sense that I speake it and could not possibly no not by men or Angells be controlled The same spirit also did I obserue in many others of
desensorem venerandum quis ignorat Hilarium Episcopum Gallum Who is ignorant or who doth not know that earnest defendour of the Catholicke Church against Heretickes venerable Hilary the French Bishop 32. And then againe of S. Amrbose Audi alium excellentem Dei dispensatorem quem veneror vt Patrem in Christo enim Iesu per Euangelium me genuit Beatum loquor Ambrosium Harken vnto another excellent steward of Gods house whom I do reuerence as my Father for in Christ Iesus he begot me by the Ghospell I meane blessed S. Ambrose And then of a third also to wit S. Gregory Nazianzen he giueth this commendation or rather by an interrogation would inforce his aduersary vnto an admiration of this great Saint and learned Diuine An tibi parua in vno Gregorio Episcoporum Orientalium videtur authoritas Doth it seeme vnto thee a small authority that is in one onely Gregory Nazianzen amongst the Easterne Bishops And then followeth the reason which truly is very well worth the marking 33. Est quidem saith he tanta persona vt neque ille hoc nisi ex fide Christiana omnibus notissima diceret neque illi eum tam clarum haberent atque venerandum nisi hoc ab illo dictum ex regula notissimae veritatis agnoscerent He is truly so great a person as neyther would he speake in this matter as he doth but out of the most knowne manifest Christian faith nor would men hould him for so excellent and venerable except they did know that what he said he spake out of the rule of most knowne truth Thus S. Augustine 34. And in these his wordes consisteth the whole substance of this my Consideration about priuate Fathers to wit that S. Gregory Nazianzē syrnamed Theologus the diuine for his admirable and profound knowledge in the greatest mysteries of Diuinity though he had bene but one in that matter against Iulian as he was not but accompanied with many as hath bene made cleare in the former Consideration yet so great was the authority of his person in the Church as that neyther he would haue said as he did but out of the common sense of the Church in his time nor should he euer haue bene held for a famous nor venerable a Doctor renowned throughout the Christian world but that the Church was sure that he would affirme nothing hould nothing publish nothing but out of the common rule and infallible Canon of the most knowne truth for that otherwise he should euen to his face haue bene contradicted by other Doctors and Fathers his equalls and compeeres that liued with him or ensued after him So as we see that particuler Fathers sayings and opinions when they are not gaynesaid by others or reprehended or condemned by the Church they are not so lightly to be respected or reiected as Protestants doe both ordinarily teach and practise But the maine point to be waighed and considered is this to wit to know in what times they were written vpon what occasion of what credit or authority the Father is whether other doe write the same and accord with him whether any exception haue bene taken against it and then by whome and when and how it stood in the Church eyther as iustifyed or condemned and many other such like materiall circumstances by me before touched for that sometymes it may fall out yea and often times doth as now we haue in part shewed and might do much more at large that particuler Fathers opinions and assertions not contradicted nor yet on the other side agreed vpon in expresse tearmes by the maior part of Fathers in their writings though otherwise belieued and receaued by them in the faith and beliefe of the Church may make a very strong argument that the Church did then belieue it especially if the same were so vnderstood also by the generall consent of the Fathers following in the subsequent age and Church and consequently it may bind euery man his conscience to giue more credit therunto then Protestants incredulity will allow And this shall suffice for my second Consideration The third Consideration HItherto haue we treated of the Fathers shewing first what credit we ought to affoard yeald vnto their ioynt cōsent when in any point of doctrine they agree in one and that is sine scrupulo sine vlla dubitatione as Vincentius speaketh without any further question contradiction or opposition most faithfully to belieue them and imbrace their iudgement as the liuely oracles of God and the whole speaking voyce of Catholick Church in the mouth of her Doctors and Pastors Which if you consider it well is a great deale more then the alternatiue allowed vnto them by Protestants which is eyther to belieue them or to be humbly silent without condemning them as though the Protestant were at his liberty in euery thing to make his choice which as we haue heard in the first Chapter is no lesse thē heresy and as though the renouncing and forsaking of them let it be promised with neuer so much silence reuerence were not on the Protestants part a sufficient cōdemning of them And this for that poynt 36. There remayneth yet behind the chiefe and principall poynt of all others in this present busines and matter we haue now in hand to be handled and to be especially considered of which is this to wit to know whether the ancient Fathers of the first fiue hundred yeares after Christ for so farre doth his Maiesties offer in the last edition of this his English Premonition extend it selfe do make for Protestants or for vs which poynt though to discusse at large throughout all the controuersies would both require and fill a very large volume and consequently farre surpasse the boundes of my intended breuity yet shall Iendeauour in this last Consideratiō to giue a sufficient glimpse of the truth therein in very few words for any indifferent Reader that will stand attent and iudge according vnto reason the more by the lesse 37. For first in generall it may be here seene by that which his Matie layeth forth that the Protestants do deale diffidenter distrustfully on their owne behalfe with the Fathers authority For they do first limit their yeares within the compasse of foure hundred in the first English edition and then of fiue hundred yeares in the next and last of all they call it back againe vnto foure hundred in the Latin edition which argueth that they know not well vpō what ground nor where nor when they stay themselues being still affraid least that they grant to much vnto thē as indeed whatsoeuer they grant vnto them it is to much on their behalfes since that whatsoeuer they graunt it maketh directly against thē which would not be if their friendship with them or hope in them were confident or any at all 38. Secondly they restraine their credit yet more whē they do not promise absolutely to belieue the consent of Fathers but only
children and after the said law was written also euery man and woman was not remitted promiscuously hand ouer head to the reading of those bookes but he was sent to take his instruction and institution from the ordinary Superiours Doctors Gouernors of that Church and these were to expound the law vnto him For which direction and tradition we find this warrant and commaunding yea prescribing authority Aske thy Fathers and they will tell thee thy elders and they will declare vnto thee Againe The lipes of the Priest preserue knowledge And yet in a third place I know that Abraham will demaund and teach his sonnes and househould that they walke in my wayes c. 17. And now to come from the law to the Ghospell from Moyses vnto Christ and so to proceed orderly with the history of the Church as God is no changling but euer like himselfe euen so the beginning proceeding establishing of the new Christian faith and Church was not much vnlike if not altogeather resembling the former For first this Church was planted by our Sauiour at Hierusalem and speedily by the industrious ministery of the holy Apostles assisted by the instinct of the holy Ghost spread ouer the face of the earth and yet neyther the Church nor the Apostles the principall pillars of the Church had as at this time any written instruction or methodicall institution deliuered vnto them concerning their teaching preaching or beleeuing except only the articles of the Creed deliuered by tradition in the Church as will appeare in the subsequent Considerations Secondly the institution that they had they receyued it by instruction from our Sauiour his mouth and from the immediate instinct suggestion and inspiration of the holy Ghost who was promised by Christ himselfe who could not lie nor deceaue to assist the Church continually vnto the worldes end and by this institution and inspiration alone they taught and conuerted both Iewes and Gentils instituted Churches establishing lawes and orders of life by word of mouth and tradition only from hand to hand before any thing of the new testament was committed to writing And this was the condition of the Church for some yeares and that in the infancy and purity of Christian Religion as the Protestant must perforce confesse Thirdly when the Wisdome of heauen thought it expedient that somthing should be written the first thing cōmitted vnto writing in the new Testamēt was the Ghospell of S. Matthew and this was collected and digested in that very order as it is now presented to the Church and that some eight yeares after the ascension of our Sauiour then the Ghospell of S. Marke some fiue yeares after that then that of S. Luke written twelue yeares after the former wherin diuers thinges omitted in the other Ghospell of are recorded And last of all was written the Ghospell of S. Iohn conteyning in it many great and important matters which are not found in any of the rest and this was not written of 66. yeares after the first visible Christian Church was planted and established by the comming of the holy Ghost 18. And now as all the rest were written vpon particuler occasions so especially was this famous Ghospell of S. Iohn which is the very key opening the dore vnto the vnderstanding of all the rest and particulerly vpon the occasion of Ebion and Cerinthus their heresy which impugned the Diuinity of the Sonne of God Whereupon I do inferre that for that which concerneth the new Testament the Church was for diuers yeares without any Scriptures at all and for 66. yeares which is the age of a man the points related by S. Iohn more then were vttered in the other Ghospells which are many and most important were receiued and belieued in the Church by tradition onely And now for Conclusion of all I would demaund but one thing of the Protestants that make such shew of appealing vnto Scriptures and the Primitiue Apostolicall Church this was demāded aboue 1400. yeares agoe by S. Irenaus before cyted who liued in the very next age after the Apostles vpon the very like occasion Sineque Apostoli Scripturas reliquissent nobis c. If the Apostles had left vnto vs no Scriptures at all yet ought not we to follow that order of tradition which they left to those to whom they committed their Churches So that holy Bishop and Martyr especially ought we not to follow that order of tradition since the true worship of God and the sauing doctrine of the Ghospell of Christ cōtinued for 2000. yeares in the time of the law and for many other yeares in the dayes of the Ghospell and that in the brest of the Church to be deliuered by tradition only without the help of any word written 19. Wherby we cannot but discerne and must acknowledge that Scriptures or the written word of God were not so absolute necessary for the reuealing of God his will vnto man kind and the continuing of man in that sauing knowledge of him but that his Diuine Maiesty might haue propagated and preserued his doctrine and man in the truth by tradition only of word of mouth without any Scriptures at all if it had so pleased him as he did for many ages and generations togeather both before the first great diluge by water in the dayes of our first Patriarkes vntill Abrabā his time whome he chose for the head of his people as also afterwardes when he directed the same people by like tradition as well in Egipt where they remayned in most cruell bondage for 400. yeares as else where before Moyses wrote his forenamed bookes And the like he might haue done with Christiās to the worlds great generall consummation last inundation by a flood of fire according to S. Irenaeus his sentence if he had listed as hauing instituted a more orderly exact and authorized Church yea and hauing indued it with greater priuiledges according to the perfection of the new law aboue the old then he had done vnto the former of the Iewes Whereupon it must needes follow by force of necessary consequence that the tradition of this Church and pure authority therof both in propounding Scriptures vnto vs and discerning the same which are truly Scriptures and which are not as also for deliuering vnto vs the true sense and meaning therof in their interpretation and exposition is much more to be respected by vs then was that of the Iewes Forasmuch as Christ our Sauiour promised the continuall assistance of his spirit vnto this Church and that in such measure as that it should alone be able to withstand all the infernall power of Sathan and the gates of hell idest the very entrance of all kynd of errour or herely into it whatsoeuer 20. These then that neuer so solemnely and neuer so confidently professe that they for their partes do belieue and follow the Scriptures without due reference or respect to the Church forsomuch as all Sectaries and Heretikcs that
sense requireth the stay of a sure interpretation and this is only that which can make a man a true Catholicke Christian. 50. S. Augustine amongst those manifould cōflicts which he had with the Manichees concerning the Catholicke Church her authority openly and ingenuously professed vnto the said Manichees that he would not haue belieued the Ghospell if the authority of the Catholicke Church did not moue him therunto Whence I do obserue that if we receiue the Ghospell vpon the credit of the Church for that the Ghospell would not be belieued to be the Ghospell vnlesse the authority of the Church did tell vs that it were the Ghospell then followeth it necessarily for the argument is drawne à maiore ad minus that much more should we depend and rely vpon the Church and take from her the true sense meaning and exposition of the Ghospell from whom we haue belieued and receaued that it is the Ghospell and therefore saith the same Father to his friend Honoratns Multò facilius mihi persuaderem Christo non esse credendum quà m de illo quidquam nisi ab his per quos credidissem esse credendum I should much more easily perswade my selfe that we ought not to beleeue in Christ at all then that any thing were to be learned cōcerning him of any man but only of those whom I was taught to belieue in Christ. Can any thing be spoken more effectually for the Authority of the Church since this is the sole cause of his belieuing the Ghospell This is the onely motiue of his imbracing the faith of Christ 51. But now whether Protestants do follow this trade and way of true Catholicisme in their sensing and vnderstanding of Scriptures that is not hard to discouer For when wee come to particuler controuersies and to ioyne issue togeather and that they and their aduersaries do alleage Scriptures and expound the same then doth it appeare as cleare as the sunne who followeth a priuate interpretation and who adhereth to the true Catholicke Churches exposition For the Roman Catholicke first desyring to find out the truth and then willing to imbrace nothing but the truth reflecteth vpon the former interpretation of ancient Church when the present controuersy was not yet in hand and consequently when the exposition cannot be so much as in any semblable reason suspected to be wrested or wrongly interpreted by men of those ages who neither feared nor fauoured any party but must needes be according to the common meaning and sense of the Church in those ancient tymes and this interpretation which the Protestants also in some of their better humours do admit for good the Catholicke followeth vpon this as vpon the rock of God his word truly sensed by the Church he stayeth himselfe buildeth his religion 52. Now the Protestāt being guilty in his conscience and knowing well that antiquity detesteth and hath already anathematized his heresy he by all meanes possible by vociferatiōs and exclamations seeketh to extenuate the authority of this Church much like to the theefe or malefactor who arested by the law to abyde the triall of the same beginneth to raile exclaime against his lawfull ludge and iurours and then in his imagination he deuiseth certaine Chymera's and Idea's of his Church in former times in the ayre of his owne braine which lineally saith he but God knoweth how for he knoweth not descended vnto Luther and Caluin c. And from these people partly and partly from himselfe frameth the Protestant his exposition of Scripture and vpon this foundation buildeeh he all his religion of his owne deuice 53. And albeit all Fathers do not allwaies agree in one and the selfe same sense and exposition of Scripture for that there may be be diuers senses of one the selfe same place of Scripture as before you haue heard at large yet doth the holy Ghost so rune and strike vpon the stringes the tonges and pens I meane of these ancient Wortnies of the Church that all the variety that euer I could find yet amongst them sounded forth a heauenly harmony and neither iarred not yet was dissonant from Scripturs verity or faiths Analogy so farre is the Churches vnity from all contrariety And verily this diuersity of antiquity in the execution of Scriptures without all repugnancy or any contrariety was no small motiue vnto me to imbrace the present Roman Catholicke Religion which all so I found in them for I could not but conclude that as one spirit breathing out these Scriptures intended all these senses so the same spirit guided all And therefore no meruaile that neither the ages wherin such Fathers liued nor any succeeding Century of the Church reprehended their expositions For the wisedome of the spirit euer continued in the Church and thereby they know that such variety breeded no contrariety whilst one Father sensed the Scripture literally another Allegorically and another mystically or Anagogically but yet all to a pious sense and with no obstinate proteruity or animosity against that which the Church did hould or determine for truest 54. And now to come vnto some particuler exposition or Scripture by the Fathers let vs instance in the age of S. Augustine for the Protestants are wont to graunt that the true Church florished in his time and his Maiesty also condescendeth to extend the triall of Controuersies to his time and somwhat further The same Father writing of this Church we haue formerly mentioned proued the same first to be visible and obuious vnto euery mans eyes against the assertion of the Protestants inuisibility of the Church and this he confirmeth out of the wordes of our Sauiour registred by the Euangelist Matth. 5. A Citty vpō a hill cannot be hidden that is to say the Church cannot be inuisible which is many times repeated by the same Father to this effect As also forth of those wordes of the Psalmist Psal. 18. In sole posuit tabernaculum suum he put his tabernacle in the sunne that is he placed his Church in the sight of the world to be seene of all men 55. In like manner the same Father applyeth and expoundeth those wordes of Christ Matth. 5 about the Candle placed on the Candlestick to signify the visibility of the Catholicke Church crying out against them Qui contra lucernam in candelabro positamoculos claudant who willfully shut their eyes against the candle placed on the candlestick Qui tammagnam montem non vident who cannot see so great a hill as the Church is And lastly for conclusion of all he giueth his censure of them in these wordes Quid amplius sum dicturus qùam caecos esse What shall I say more of them but that they are blnd Thus did S. Augustine interpret and apply these Scriptures and many more to this purpose as you shall read throughout his whole Tract de Vnitate Ecclesiae contra Petilianum andels where 56. And the same S. Augustine to
this suffice for this article 40. Let vs now a litle cast about and take a view of the ninth article in order as the Creed naturally brancheth it and it is this Credo Sanctam Ecclesiam Catholicam c. I belieue the holy Catholicke Church the wordes of this article are agreed vpon on all partes but the senses framed thereupon and belieued of different Christians are most different and repugnant For first those of the Roman truly Catholicke Religion do according to the exposition of ancient Fathers which is a most certaine and infallible rule of their fayth vnderstand by this Catholicke Church that visible Congregation of the first belieuing Christians gathered togeather in Hierusalem at the time of our blessed Sauiour his Ascension at which assembly the holy Apostles themselues who made this article were present togeather with the Blessed Virgin Mother of God and other holy men and women vpon whome the holy Ghost descended inlightened them and inflaming them to preach the name of Christ and further establishing and confirming them in the truth encouraging them to go forwardes manfully without feare of any opposite humane power and promising them that the power of Christ assistance of the same holy Ghost should be with them and the directors of them vnto the worlds end to preserue this Church and holy Congregation in all necessities and extremities so that the gates of hell and damnable errour should neuer preuaile against it 41. Moreouer the said Catholicke Christians did euer vnderstand this Church to be called holy in respect both of the great sanctity of her doctrine and the holines of many of her children who besides the precepts of the law as S. Gregory speaketh nay ouer and aboue the precepts of the law as S. Basill and S. Chyrsostome ioyntly speake should endeauour etiam praecepta legis perfectiori virtute transcendere to transcend the precepts of the law by deuouting themselues vnto the obseruation of Christ his high Counsayles of Euangelicall perfection 42. Also this Church is called holy for the immediate and perpetuated assistance of the holy Ghost inspiring her inwardly directing her outwardly and especially for the meanes of sanctificatiō conuaied vnto her through the conducts of her Sacraments as chiefest and most holy instruments to that effect conferring grace for our assistance in the performing of all good works wherof none can be partakers to saluation out of this Church 43. This Church is also called Catholicke for the reasons before set downe in the first Chapter and first Consideration to wit that it is vniuersally spread ouer the world by the ministery of the Apostles in the very beginning and so hath hitherto continued still and euer shall to the worldes end and further it hath these signes and markes to be knowne by and to be distinguished from all hereticall Congregations whatsoeuer to wit Antiquity Vniuersality Vnion and Succession by descent of Bishops And finally for full complement it hath that communion of Saints both by vnion in fayth and communion of Sacraments which no other Schismaticall Cōuenticle or hereticall congregation hath and out of this communion there can be no possibility of life or saluation All this and much more which here I am constrayned to omit do those of the Roman Religion vnderstand by this article I belieue in the holy Catholicke Church the communion of Saints and it would require a whole volume to set downe the seuerall sentences discourses and authorities of ancient Fathers that iointly concurre in this exposition and explanation 44. But now on the other side if we cast our eyes vpon the state of the English Clergy we shall find that howsoeuer they do admit the same in wordes yea and subscribe therunto in their Ordination for that they teach their Rligion to follow their State as their State brought in their Religion yet exceeding great is the difference and large are their consciences in vnderstanding the same as may appeare in part out of the 19. article published by M. Rogers as agreed vpon by our English Bishops concerning the Church about which he hath seauen seuerall propositions first agreeing in some of them somwhat with the Catholicks and they haue learned it from the Catholicke Religion and as their vsuall practice is and then making their owne choyce to dissent and disagree at their pleasure as the inured custome of all Hereticks hath euer bene 45. His first proposition then is this There is a Church of Christ not only inuisible but also visible wherto supposing him to vnderstand of the true Catholicke Church for otherwise he saith nothing we do also agree as their Bishops in like manner may be supposed to do and yet can I speake this vpon my owne knowledg that it is against the common knowne tenent practice of their Academicall Schooles for there the question is amongst the most forward Protestants An Ecclesia sit inuisibilis whether the true Church be inuisible and yet is held affirmitiuely to wit that it is inuisible and not visible to manseies for the visibility of the Church tendeth to flat Popery which they cannot indure 46. His second proposition is That there is but one Church which we affirme also and they from vs haue learned so to speake and yet I do not see how the Protestant Puritan and other Sectaries Lutherans and Sacramentaries can make one Church they differing so fundamētally amongst themselues and in such weighty points of faith and religion as they do 47. His third assertion is The visible Church is a Catholick Church M. Rogers would haue said or at least wise should haue said that the Catholicke is a visible Church and the reason is for that all visible Churches are not Catholicke but all Catholick Churches are visible And what was the reason of this his incongruity of speach I do not see vnlesse he meant thereby to steale the name of Catholicke vnto euery visible Congregation of Sectaries which is clearly ouerthrowne by the definition and large explication of the word Catholicke set downe in the first Chapter 48. His fourth proposition is The word of God was and for tyme is before the Church which being vnderstood of the Scripture or written Word for otherwise it is nothing to our purpose it contayneth in it a senseles grosse absurdity for therupon it would follow that before Moyses tyme the first writer of the Bible which was more then two thousand yeares after the creation of man God had no Church because there was extant no written Word or Scripture which were very ridiculous to affirme But the only refuge that I can possibly perceaue that M. Rogers hath left him to make good his fourth assertion in proouing the word of God more ancient then the Church is to fly to the vnwritten word but this will not serue his turne neither since we haue only in this place to do with the litterall or written word of God begūne
of the place aboue cyted The excuses of Protestants refuted Bern. ser. 17. sâ—per Cant. Tit. 3. 10. 11 S. Pauls iudgment of an Hereticke 2. Tim. 2. 17. Ep. Iudaâ— S. Iudes sentence of Heretickes The detestation of hereticks and heresies by ancient Fathers 2. Iohn 1. 10. 11. De Scriptor Eccle. in Ioan. Lib. 3. aduers haeces cap. 3. Irenaeus ibidem ☞ Cyprian l. 3. cp 1. ☞ Athanasin vita Antonii ☞ The senerity of S CypriaÌ„ S. Athanas. S. Antony in auoyding Hereticks Leo ser. 18. de passions Christicap 4. That Hereticks are no Christians Lib. 2. aduers haereses cap. 9. That Hereticks by no good works can be saued De vnitate Ecclesiae Ibidem Aug. l. 1. de ser. Dom in monte c. 4. et ep 24. ad Donat. presb l. 4. de bapt contra Donat c. 17. et tract 6. in EuaÌ„g loaÌ„ et l. 2. cont Petil. c. 98. et l. 1. cont GaudeÌ„t c. 33. et alibi Heresy the greatest sinn of all other How a maÌ„ may discerne betweene Catholick religion Heresie Aug. de verb. Apost serm 1. In CommeÌ„tar in 24. Matt. v. 36. De praescrip c. 34. The necessity of cleere and vniuersall rule in matters of beliefe Isa. 38. Num. 23. 19. How this generall rule may be found out Ioan. 3. 20. The way of euery mans priuate spirit Whether only scripture be the infallible way Isa. 35. 8. Cont. haer cap. 2. August tract 18. in IoaÌ„ lib 7. in Gen. ad litâ— cap 9. 2. Cor. 2. 16. De praescript cap. 17. Ibidem Ibidem Labor lost to deale with Hereticks by only Scripture Cap. 20. De praescript c. 17. Ibid. c. 39. A perspicuous example In Epist. ad Paulin. Presb. Presumption of Hereticks in the Scriptures The only true way of iudging by the Church Aug. in psal 44. et 47. l. 2. cont Petil. c. 32. de vnit Eccl. c. 14. in Epist. IoaÌ„ tract 1. 2. in Breuic collat 3. diei c. 4. Matt. 5. 14 Ibidem 15. Exod. 13. 12. Iud. 6. 37. 38. 39. 40. Matt. 16. 18. De praesctipt c. 14 The authority of the primitiue Church Ibid. v. 28. Matt. 28. 20. 2 Cor. 11. 16 Dan. 6. 15. Mat. 16. 19 Iren. lib. 3. cont haeres cap. 4. A notable testimony of S. Iren. for the authority of the Visible Church To what triall the ancient Fathers prouoked the heretickes of their tyme. Videsupr The issue of this Consideration How out of the premises euery maÌ„ may iudge in what state he standeth for being Heretick or Catholicke 3. Reg. 22. Whether men may be saued in distereÌ„t Religions Premonit pag. 34. M. Meluin Secret Atheisme Aug. epist 48. ad Vincent Aug. l. 18. de ciu Dei cap. 5â— Lib. 1. epist. epist. 1. ad Magn. Hierom. l. 3. Apol. aduersus Ruff. post medium Basil. apud Theod. l. 4. bist c. 17. NazianzeÌ„ tract de fide Ruff. interprete noÌ„ loÌ„gé ab initio What sort of heresy is more daÌ„nable Leo tract cont Eutich That Protestants opinions are truly heresies Luther in art ad Louaniens Luther condemneth all ZuingliaÌ„s and Caluinistes for hereticks Beware of Iohn Caluin The Caluinists coÌ„demned for heretickes by the Lutherans The war of Iohn Caluin with Iesus Christ. Of the dissention disagreement of ProtestaÌ„ts and Puritans whether they be he resies one to the other Answere pag. 20. The different origen of Ecclesiastical power in the Protestant Puritan and Catholick Church Barorwes booke c. Perpetuall gouerment of the Church The Puritans excoÌ„municated as schismatickes and Hereticks by the Protestants Constitut. Can. 4. 56. Can. 7. 8. Can. 9. 10. 12. English ProtestaÌ„ts do not make one part often of those Christians which coÌ„deÌ„ne thé for heretickes Two important Considerations Hester 1. 1. Cor. 15 28. Act. 26. 9. The daily conuersioÌ„ of so many learned men in EnglaÌ„d Cyprian l. de vnit Eccles Premonit pag. 36. Premonit pag. 36. The belieuing of Scriptures not sufficient to make a man a Catholicke An example of the Authors case himselfe Luther l. cont RegeÌ„ Angliae f. 342. tom 1. The straÌ„g presuÌ„ptuous speach of Luther Luther not euer belieued by vs although he cyte the Scriptures De praescript cap. 42. Abuse of Scriptures by Heretickes Cont. haer cap. 35. See the place it is well worth the reading De praescript c. 4. Controuersies grow endles by appealing only to Scriptures 3. Reg. 22. 20. 21. 22. 23 Ib. v. 24. â— Cor. 2. 25. Scriptures ridiculously alleadged by the Puritan That Scriptures were not writteÌ„ for many yeares after their Church began How Scriptures were first written Deut. 2. 7. Gen. 18. 19. Matt. 23. 20. The Church continued many yeares without written Scriptures Iren. lib. 3. cont har cap. 4. How Hereticks do handle Scripturs How to know what is truly Scripture The place is aboue cited How to know what is Scripture and what is not Apud TrenaeuÌ„ l. 1. c. 20. 22. 29. A pud Aug. l. 32. coÌ„t Faust. c. 2. l. 334 cap. 3. What books are now in Controuersy Hos. 13. ProtestaÌ„ts follow their own choice or electioÌ„ in admitting or reiecting Scriptures 2. Cor. 2 15. 16. Premonit pag. 36. Dan. 6. 15. Bellarm diuision of the bookes of Scripture A sufficieÌ„t Prescription for authorizing these books for Diuine Scripture being 1200 years agoe Touching the Epistle of S. Paul to the He. brewes How Caluin opposeth himselfe to Luther yet agreeth not with the Catholickes Why the Apocalips reiected by Luther is accepted of Caluin Caluinists The conclusion of this Consideration How the true sense of Scripture may be tryed 1. 2. 3. 4. Hier. c. 3. in epist. ad Ephes. Aug. in psal 140. praef prope initiuÌ„ Lib. 3. Ep. epist. 19. Constant. Ambros. l. 3. c. 3. in Lucem Lib. 4. Epist. regist epist. 40. The danger of rash vsing or abusing the Scriptures In CoÌ„mentar ad Galat 2. Lib. 3. in LucaÌ„ c. 3. prope fineÌ„ lib. cap. Cap. 39. praescript The cause of Heresies The hereticall obiection that the Scripture is easy open answered Psal. 1 8. Cont. haer cap. 35. Aug. l. 1. de doctrina Christiana cap. 6. De praescript c. 9. S. August would not haue belieued the Ghospell but for the authority of the Church The difference betweene Catholickes and ProtestaÌ„ts in gathering the sense of Scripture S. Augustines positions of the church Aug. l. 2. cont Petil. c. 33. lib. devnit Eccles c. 14. Aug. in ep loan tract 2. That it â— visible Aug. ibib That it coÌ„sisteth of good and bad That it canot faile or perish Aug. coÌ„c 2 in psal â—01 S. August fully agreeing with the opinion of the moderne Catholicks Aug. l. 21. deciuit c. 13. l. 6. cont IuiiaÌ„ cap. 5. In Psal. 31. prope init Enchir. c. 67. 68. l. de fid oper c. 25. l. 21. de Ciuit. Dei c. 21. 26. The conclusion of this chapter consideratioÌ„ Vincent cont haer cap. 36.
out of the new All these I say are receiued by those of the Roman Religion for Canonicall Scriptures in the sense before defined out of S. Augustine that is to say for holy and diuine bookes written by the finger of Almighty God by the ministery of those who were Pennes of a ready writer and consequently these of the second ranke were of no lesse authority nor infallible verity then those of the first order for that in things immediatly and a like proceeding from God his spirit there can not be lesse or more truth but all are of equall credit and so equally to be receaued honoured esteemed and belieued And thus much for the Catholickes who for a infallible ground and assured direction in this matter follow not any priuate erring spirit but the neuer-deceiuing authority of the Church which Church and spouse of Christ being guided by the spirit of God according to the promise of Christ her bridegrome hath from all ancient time in former ages in her Councells Synodes and Ecclesiasticall Decrees notified declared determined and established the authority of these foresaid bookes of the second rew for infallible and Canonicall that is to say declared them to be such and euer haue bene such to wit of most certaine and infallible truth though sometimes and amongst some men there haue bene doubt thereof And this is the manner of the Church to declare what is Scripture but not to make it 30. But as for the Protestants I find such diuersity and contrariety such opposition and contradiction among them that they seeme vnto me as mē in tangled shall I say nay perplexed and distracted not knowing what to doe or whither to fly or which way to turne them in this great busines of discerning and admitting Scriptures And surely the reason of all this misery ariseth from themselues alone Perditio tua ex te it was spoken of Israells transgression but neuer more truly verified thē of hereticall innouation for that these miserable deceiued and deceiuing soules leauing the high rode of the Churches prescription can neuer possibly attaine vnto any infallible direction one following one thing and another another and that in this maine point of the Scriptures importance Quot capita tot sententia euery man will be a chooser euery one will shew himselfe an Hereticke whence it commeth to passe that Gods word is wretchedly abused blasphemed reiected by some rent and torne in peeces by others and that which on God his part was ordained and prepared for them to be a sauour of life vnto life becommeth by their misusage of it a sauour of death vnto death and to speake all in a word through the fault of their owne peruerse will concurring and God his most righteous iudgment following them hard at the heeles it commeth to passe that that word which was giuen as a pillar of fire to direct and lighten them into all verity is turned into a pillar of smoke so darkening and infatuating their vnderstanding that they rush headlong into all kind of heresie 31. This being well peceiued by his Maiesty of England according to that notable apprehension of his Noble Nature he as it were out of a pious zealous and Religious disposition though wrongly missed by some time-seruing and Statizing Theologue who is somewhat to neere vnto his Royall Person writeth as in part before you haue heard concerning the Scriptures and it is in effect as followeth As for the Scriptures no man doubteth I will belieue them But euen for the Apocrypha I hould them in the same accompt that the Ancients did they are still printed and bound with our Bibles and publikely read in our Churches I reuerence them as writings of holy and good men but since they are not found in the Canon we accompt them to be secundae lectionis or ordinis which is Bellarmines owne distinction and therefore not sufficient wherupon alone to ground any article of faith except it be confirmed by some other place of Canonicall Scripture Thus writeth his Maiesty out of a good meaning no doubt and therefore great pitty it is that so Vertuous and Religious a Hart should erre or conceipt amisse But who shall determine whether these Scriptures here called Apocrypha which are those of the second order before mentioned be Canonicall Scriptures or not Herelyeth the substance of the questiō His Matie heere vpon the suggestion of his Domesticall Ministers of England saith no but the ancient Church of Christendome saith yea as doth also the present and her iudgement being in this case aboue all earthly authority is to strike the stroke betwixt God and man Let the word of my Soueraigne in all otherthings stand as the strong moūtaine that may not be remoued and as the law of the Medes and Persians which could neuer be altered only let not my lord the King be displeased with his seruant and subiect in this if his word may not stand but must of necessity fall to the ground as being countermaunded by the word of God that cannot nor will not be disauthorized by the word of any mortall man 32. It was suggested to his Matie but sinister was the information that Cardinall Bellarmine in his first booke de Verbo Dei cap. 4. held the former distinction of secundae lectionis or ordinis and that in his Maiesties sense but it is nothing so in the sense that here is set downe by his Maiesty to wit that this second order of bookes are of lesse authority then the first For albeit Bellarmine doth as before hath bene said deuide all the bookes that are in the Bible into three ranks or orders first into such as were neuer called in question by any Catholicke men Secondly into such as notwithstāding sometimes haue byn doubted of by some yet were afterwards admitted by the whole vniuersall Church And thirdly and lastly into Apocrypha yet doth he not either call those bookes of the second order Apocrypha or secundae lectionis as here is set downe nor yet secundi ordinis in his Maiesties sense as though they were lesse to be belieued and of lesse authority then those of the first ranke but rather he auerreth the quite contrary that they are all of one and the selfe same authority And therfore whosoeuer he was that suggested this place of Bellarmine vnto his Matie he dealt not well and sincerly therin with his Prince and he is bound by the law of conscience and by the law of a subiect towards his Soueraigne to acknowledge his errour were it of malice or of ignorance committed and humbly prostrate vpon his knees to craue pardon for this abusing of his Lord and euer after to beware how he presume to whisper any such vntruth palpable and notorious falshood into the eares of his dread Lord and King 33. But now forasmuch as this point of denying the infallible authority and irrefragable credit of any the least booke part or parcell of