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to_o descend_v as_o a_o conqueror_n one_o that_o go_v either_o to_o supra_fw-la triumph_v over_o the_o devil_n in_o his_o own_o place_n as_o it_o be_v or_o to_o deliver_v the_o soul_n that_o be_v in_o limbus_fw-la now_o why_o shall_v it_o be_v account_v such_o a_o benefit_n such_o a_o matter_n of_o joy_n and_o rejoice_v for_o one_o not_o to_o be_v leave_v there_o where_o he_o be_v only_o as_o a_o conqueror_n and_o deliverer_n ibid._n bellarmine_n answer_v that_o it_o be_v a_o benefit_n to_o christ_n soul_n that_o it_o be_v quick_o join_v again_o unto_o the_o body_n even_o as_o it_o be_v evil_a to_o the_o soul_n to_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o body_n and_o thus_o say_v he_o it_o be_v a_o benefit_n unto_o he_o to_o be_v deliver_v from_o hell_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o place_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o body_n but_o who_o see_v not_o that_o by_o this_o reason_n christ_n soul_n may_v as_o well_o be_v in_o heaven_n as_o either_o in_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la 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limbus_n be_v mean_v for_o even_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o do_v hold_v that_o it_o be_v quite_o empty_v before_o that_o time_n that_o peter_n speak_v and_o therefore_o david_n soul_n be_v not_o in_o it_o then_o whereas_o yet_o peter_n signify_v that_o then_o it_o be_v in_o that_o hell_n of_o which_o he_o speak_v by_o hell_n therefore_o must_v be_v mean_v either_o the_o grave_n or_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a ruffinus_n symb._n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o creed_n observe_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o article_n of_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n be_v not_o in_o the_o creed_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o that_o the_o eastern_a church_n have_v it_o not_o yet_o he_o say_v that_o it_o seem_v to_o he_o imply_v in_o that_o which_o be_v speak_v of_o christ_n burial_n and_o it_o be_v observe_v that_o in_o all_o the_o ancient_a hell_n creed_n that_o be_v within_o 600_o year_n after_o christ_n except_o one_o which_o ruffinus_n follow_v if_o the_o article_n of_o christ_n 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he_o etc._n etc._n you_o shall_v bring_v down_o my_o gray_a hair_n with_o sorrow_n to_o sheol_n i._n e._n the_o grave_n for_o to_o what_o hell_n else_o shall_v gray_a hair_n go_v down_o so_o gen._n 44._o 29._o and_o 31._o and_o 1_o king_n 2._o 6._o and_o job._n 17._o 13._o if_o i_o wait_v sheol_n be_v my_o house_n that_o be_v the_o grave_n as_o appear_v v_o 14._o i_o have_v say_v to_o corruption_n thou_o be_v my_o father_n and_o to_o the_o worm_n thou_o be_v my_o mother_n and_o sister_n so_o psal_n 141._o 7._o our_o bone_n lie_v scatter_v at_o the_o mouth_n of_o sheol_n i._n e._n the_o grave_n so_o genebrard_n upon_o the_o place_n expound_v it_o juxta_fw-la sepulchrum_n i._n e._n by_o the_o grave_n whereas_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a have_v it_o secus_fw-la infernum_fw-la near_o hell_n but_o what_o hell_n except_o the_o grave_n shall_v dead_v man_n bone_n lie_v scatter_v by_o so_o in_o many_o other_o place_n and_o in_o all_o these_o place_n the_o greek_a version_n have_v hades_n so_o 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free_a necessity_n be_v both_o hold_v in_o bondage_n and_o also_o be_v free_a in_o bondage_n because_o of_o necessity_n free_a because_o of_o will_n and_o which_o be_v more_o wonderful_a and_o more_o miserable_a it_o be_v therefore_o guilty_a because_o it_o be_v free_a and_o therefore_o in_o bondage_n because_o guilty_a and_o so_o consequent_o therefore_o in_o bondage_n because_o free_v he_o add_v a_o little_a after_o now_o there_o be_v no_o escape_n ibid._n for_o miserable_a man_n by_o his_o own_o freewill_n or_o any_o power_n in_o himself_o who_o as_o i_o have_v say_v both_o the_o will_n do_v make_v inexcusable_a and_o also_o necessity_n do_v make_v incorrigible_a elsewhere_o indeed_o bernard_n seem_v to_o make_v the_o will_v perpetual_o arb_n and_o of_o its_o own_o nature_n free_a from_o necessity_n for_o that_o necessary_a and_o voluntary_a seem_v to_o be_v contrary_a one_o to_o the_o other_o but_o by_o necessity_n he_o mean_v co-action_n and_o compulsion_n for_o speak_v of_o consent_n he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o ibid._n compel_v it_o be_v not_o extort_a for_o it_o be_v of_o will_n not_o of_o necessity_n it_o neither_o deny_v itself_o nor_o afford_v itself_o to_o any_o but_o willing_o for_o if_o it_o can_v be_v compel_v against_o its_o will_n it_o be_v violent_a and_o not_o voluntary_a but_o where_o there_o be_v no_o will_n there_o be_v no_o consent_n for_o there_o be_v no_o consent_n but_o voluntary_a therefore_o where_o there_o be_v consent_n there_o be_v will_n and_o where_o there_o be_v will_n there_o be_v freedom_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o i_o think_v be_v call_v freewill_n and_o again_o freedom_n from_o necessity_n ibid._n
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