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A28864 Master Geree's Case of conscience sifted Wherein is enquired, vvhether the King (considering his oath at coronation to protect the clergy and their priviledges) can with a safe conscience consent to the abrogation of episcopacy. By Edward Boughen. D.D.; Mr. Gerees Case of conscience sifted. Boughen, Edward, 1587?-1660? 1650 (1650) Wing B3814; ESTC R216288 143,130 162

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power of Ordination but not the Seventy not those of the inferior order not meer Presbyters 4. Besides doth not St. Paul justifie that none may preach except they be sent Talk not of an inward calling or extraordinary sending Neither of these will serve the turn without the outward without the ordinary Ordination St. Pauls words are full to this purpose No man taketh this honour of Priesthood to himself but he that is called of God as Aaron was The extraordinary calling which some pretend to is abolished in that No man takes this honour to himself How then must he attain the Priesthood The Apostle tels you he must be called of God as Aaron was And how was that Non immediatè a Deo sed mediante hominis ministerio he was not called or ordained immediately by God but by the interceding Ministery of man The Apostle therefore doth not say He that is called of God as Moses was but He that is called of God as Aaron was But we know that though Moses were immediately ordained by God yet Aaron was not he was ordained by Moses And yet both Moses and Aaron are among his Priests for Moses discharged the Priests office before Aaron was ordained Exod. 24. 4. c. Exod. 29. 12. 18. 25. 36. c. Exod. 30. 29. 30. 5. I have done with your first way having according to your Covenant proved by Scripture that none may confer Orders in the Church of Christ but onely Apostles or Bishops as we take them in a strict and Ecclesiasticall sense that is onely such as are of the same order with the Apostles and may fitly be called apostle-Apostle-Bishops 6. We are now cast upon the Example of the best reformed Churches which may raise some dust For when we descend to comparisons we cannot but displease those who are left out of the superlative Yet this I dare say that those Churches are best reformed which come neerest to the Primitive Church in Doctrine and Government For to reform is not to innovate but In primaevam veram formam reducere to settle it in the ancient and true state For thus saith the Lord Stand in the wayes and behold and ask for the OLD WAY WHICH IS THE GOOD WAY AND WALK THEREIN and ye shall find rest for your souls This rule therefore is given by Zanchius Exempla veteris Ecclesiae nobis debent esse instar praecepti and your learned Ministers of London second him assuring us that the examples of the ancient Church bind us as firmly as any precept And reason good since the custome of the ancient Church is Optima legis interpres the best interpreter of the Law of Christ The ancient Church then ought to be a pattern to all Reformers 7. Well what kinde of Government was there in the primitive Church Peter Moulin testifies that either in the Apostles times or suddenly after Bishops had praeheminence over Presbyters in the severall Cities wherein they were setled This Government is very ancient and in the Church of Christ every thing the MORE ANCIENT it is the TRUER AND BETTER it is Zanchius justifies it In Ecclesia Dei quo quid ANTIQUIUS eo etiam est VERIUS ideoque MELIUS And lest I may seem to wrest that famous learned mans words to another sense then he intended them I shall give you his resolution at large concerning this point in question whether Bishops or no Bishops and this it is Hoc unum addo me coram Deo IN MEA CONSCIENTIA non alio habere LOCO quàm SCHISMATICORUM illos OMNES qui in parte Reformationis Ecclesiarum ponunt NULLOS HABERE EPISCOPOS qui AUTHORITATIS GRADU supra veros compresbyteros emineant ubi liquido possint haberi Praeterea cum D. Calvino NULLO NON ANATHEMATE DIGNOS CENSEO quotquot illi Hierarchiae quae se Domino Jesu Christo snbmittit subjici nolunt These are his words in Latine and to your comfort you shall have them in English like them as you please This one thing I adde saith learned Zanchius that IN MY CONSCIENCE before God I esteeme ALL those NO BETTER THEN SCHISMATICKS who make it A PART OF REFORMATION TO HAVE NO BISHOPS in the Church where they may readily be had which maybe above their true fellow-Presbyters IN DEGREE OF AUTHORITIE Yea with Mr. Calvin I HOLD THEM WORTHY OF THE MOST GRIEVOUS CURSE who will not submit to that SACRED PRELACY which is subject to Christ He was far from a Rooter 8. Neither is Zanchius alone he hath that moderate and judicious Melancthon to second him who is so right and home for Episcopacy that he comes with his Ego reddo I for my part restore the whole Jurisdiction and dignitie to Bishops And he wisheth with all that he and the rest of his friends might redeem peace though it were upon harder terms Yea he affirms that he sees not quo ore with what face they can take from Bishops their Ecclesiasticall government And then he adds That I may speak my mind Vtinam utinam POSSEM non quidem dominationem confirmare sed ADMINISTRATIONEM EPIScOPORUM restituere I would to God I would to God IT WERE IN MY POWER not to confirm the Dominion but to restore the ADMINISTRATION OF BISHOPS For I see I see saith he what a ●inde of Church we are like to have when the Ecclesiasticall policie shall be dissolved Video postea MULTO INTOLERABILIOREM futuram TYRANNIDEM quam antea unquam fuit I see we are hereafter like to have a FAR MORE INTOLERABLE TYRANNY then ever we have known heretofore Note that and consider whether experience hath not made us sensible that his words were but a Prophecie of these times And after this he expostulates the same businesse with Camerarius and questions Quo jure by what law it might be free for them to subvert the Ecclesiasticall Policie if so the Bishops would yeeld unto them what is meet The question being thus proposed his resolution follows Et ut liceat certè non expedit but suppose it lawfull yet is it not expedient Luther himself was ever of this opinion whom some I perceive love meerly for this because by his means they had shaked off their Bishops and thereby gained Libertatem minimè utilem ad posteritatem such a LITERTIE AS WILL BE LITTLE FOR THE GOOD OF POSTERITIE This he spake and we feel For what kinde of state shall the Church be in in after ages if all ancient customes and manners be utterly abolished and no certain Governors established God knows and we imagine 9. Hitherto you have seen how Zanchius for himselfe and Calvin and Melanthon with Luther did endeavour even in the shell to crush that new model which ye boast to be of divine Right and yet confesse that it is not much above fourscore yeers standing and that but in some Churches For
Lay-mens hands which heretofore were appropriated and annexed to this or that particular Religious House Which house according to Mr. Spelman was the perpetuall incumbent Parson of each of those Rectories and did duely officiate the Cure by one of their own fraternity Then were there few or no defective Parishes But upon these new Statutes the Lay Appropriatoes swept all into their own custody and possession From hence ariseth the want of congruous maintenance in too many Parishes for him or them that serve those Cures And shall Bishops smart for it when Lay-men have done the mischief and purse up the profits Dat veniam corvis vexat censura columbas when the Laity offends the Clergie suffers Is this Justice But so the Parliament do it it is with you valid in Law though injurious But God and you are of severall minds 11. Nay if this be done if Bishops lands be removed to Presbyters there will be no danger of sacrilege How prove you that This say you will not be to ruine but to rectifie the devotion of former ages and turn pomp into use and impediments into helps This is somewhat like Cardinall Wolseys pretence who dissolved fourty small Monasteries of ignorant silly Monks to erect two goodly Colleges for the breeding up of learned and industrious Divines Was not this to turn impediments into helps Lo he removed lazie drones that did little but eat and drink and sleep that so learned men might be provided for who would labour in the Word and doctrine and might be able to do Church and State good service Was not this as fair a pretence as yours or as any you can invent And how was this accepted of God that forbids theft will no more endure the offering gained by theft then by adultery One of his Colledges dyes in the conception the other remains unfinished to this day and it pities me to see her foundations under rubbish And a misery it is to take into consideration the ruine of this man as also of that King and Pope who gave him licence to commit this sin This attempt and grant opened a gap to the most profuse sacrilege that ever Christian Nation before that time had been acquainted with And yet for ought I find by this particular sacrilege there came no gain into any of their private purses 12. But I beseech you what is the meaning of these words this will turn pomp into use What your intent is perchance I may gesse but to take them according to the plain and literall sense I can make no other construction of them then this If the Prelates revenues were diverted to supply with sufficient maintenance all those Parochiall Pastors that want congruous maintenance this would turn pomp into use That is that pomp which the Prelates made no use of the Presbyterians would turn into use If this be not the Grammaticall sense I appeal to any rationall man And their Essay in the Divine right of Church government shews what their proceedings would prove I must confesse ye have marvellously improved the impediments and turned them into helps For the power and Jurisdiction of Bishops which were the main impediments to Schisme and Heresie you have covenanted to root up and have brought in all the helps that may be to further irreligion and Atheisme While the Bishops had power heresies were rarae nantes seldom seen and suddenly supprest if any such crept in But now they flowe in by shoals and have Pulpits and Presses cloyed with them Does not your own Mr. Edwards professe that never was there such plenty of Sects and Heresies As many more in truth as ever the Church knew in former ages Onely as by Julian the Apostata both Pulpits and Presses are locked up to the Orthodox no coming there for them lest perchance they infect the Auditories with sound and Apostolike Doctrine 13. Parochiall Pastors are most necessary men by them the work of the Ministery is CHIEFLY to be performed This is true and not true True in the Fathers sense not in yours In the Fathers sense a Pastor is a Bishop strictly so called as by his Order he is differenced from a Presbyter and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is no petty Countrey or Citie Parish it is a whole Citie with the Precincts and Countrey adjoyning which were under the jurisdiction of the Citie and repaired thither for justice if differences arose With them Paraecia was the same that a Diocese is with us So a Parochiall Pastor in the ancient and Church sense is a Diocesan Bishop and in this sense the work of the Ministery is CHIEFLY PERFORMED BY THE PAROCHIALL PASTOR This Pastor indeed can perform all Ministeriall acts divers of which are clean out of a Presbyters power And yet you say that by the Parochiall Pastor who is with you but a Presbyter the work of the Ministery is chiefly performed Not so my good brother not so not that work without which the Church cannot possibly subsist And that is twofold first the ordering of the Church and 2ly ordeining of Presbyters The chief works of the Ministery according to St. Paul are to 1 regular the Church and to 2 beget those by whom the Sacraments may be administred and absolution pronounced But these works may not cannot be done by any or many Presbyters In your sense therefore this proposition is false 14. But why cheifly What because Presbyters offer up the prayers and supplications of the Church Because they are the usuall Preachers and dispensers of the Sacraments These indeed are the most usuall and daily offices and very necessary but I dare not say that by them these offices are cheifly discharged What say you to that principle of reason Propter quod aliquid est tale illud est magis tale Especially if it be such an efficient or ministeriall cause without which in the ordinary way there can be no such thing But by a Bishop a Presbyter is made a Minister of these holy duties in the ordinary way without him he could not be a Presbyter The Bishop then doth cheifly performe the work of the Ministery The reason is because illo mediante by his means or mediation that is done which without him could not be done The work of Justice is usually performed by the Justice of the severall Benches But I presume you will not say cheifly that you will reserve to the Parliament since you have sworne that to be the Supreme Judicatorie of this Kingdome And in this treatise you have concluded that The Parliament is the Supreme Court by which all other Courts are to be regulated And as all Courts are to be regulated by Parliament so are all Presbyters to be guided by their own Bishop 15. Cheifly say you onely saith your Ordinance for Ordination wherein you make the Presbyter the onely Minister In your Solemne League and Covenant ye resolve and vow the extirpation of Arch-Bishops and