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lamentable_a a_o fashion_n be_v not_o a_o part_n of_o that_o scene_n and_o pageantry_n at_o which_o saint_n chrysostome_n do_v so_o take_v on_o i_o leave_v it_o unto_o other_o to_o judge_v that_o his_o fear_n be_v not_o altogether_o vain_a the_o event_n itself_o do_v show_v the_o citation_n out_o of_o eusebius_n touch_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o people_n and_o clergy_n not_o without_o tear_n and_o groan_n sect._n 10_o 9_o de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constan_n l._n 4_o c._n 9_o for_o the_o soul_n of_o constantine_n what_o do_v it_o infer_v more_o than_o this_o that_o they_o be_v earnest_a with_o god_n that_o his_o soul_n may_v be_v partaker_n of_o some_o of_o those_o various_a benefit_n which_o we_o mention_v before_o and_o none_o of_o which_o at_o all_o refer_v to_o purgatory_n but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o that_o they_o think_v the_o emperor_n in_o a_o state_n of_o bliss_n must_v needs_o be_v grant_v if_o we_o suppose_v they_o to_o have_v believe_v what_o he_o tell_v they_o be_v at_o the_o point_n of_o death_n that_o he_o have_v now_o attain_v the_o true_a life_n 63._o euseb_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constant_n l._n 4_o c._n 63._o and_o that_o none_o but_o himself_o do_v understand_v of_o what_o happiness_n he_o be_v make_v partaker_n and_o that_o therefore_o he_o hasten_v his_o go_v immediate_o to_o god_n as_o to_o that_o of_o epiphanius_n sect._n 11_o tell_v we_o that_o prayer_n make_v fâ—â—_n the_o dead_a profit_n we_o albeit_o they_o do_v not_o blot_v out_o entire_o all_o mortal_a sin_v first_o if_o this_o word_n stand_v which_o he_o put_v in_o then_o must_v it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o alleviate_v even_o mortal_a sin_n and_o be_v well_o make_v for_o those_o that_o die_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o they_o and_o then_o he_o be_v necessary_o to_o be_v understand_v in_o saint_n chrysostom_n sense_n or_o else_o he_o contradict_v the_o know_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v that_o those_o prayer_n be_v not_o make_v for_o any_o that_o die_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o mortal_a sin_n and_o indeed_o if_o this_o be_v the_o sense_n viz._n that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v profitable_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d albeit_o they_o do_v not_o whole_o blot_v out_o the_o sin_n of_o those_o that_o be_v pray_v for_o then_o must_v it_o be_v say_v that_o some_o be_v pray_v for_o who_o sin_n be_v not_o yet_o whole_o forgive_v second_o the_o case_n stand_v thus_o aerius_n have_v object_v if_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o here_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d altogether_o profit_v the_o dead_a then_o let_v he_o procure_v some_o to_o pray_v for_o he_o after_o he_o be_v dead_a that_o those_o heinous_a sin_n he_o have_v commit_v may_v not_o be_v require_v at_o his_o hand_n and_o then_o there_o will_v be_v no_o need_n of_o his_o be_v good_a now_o epiphanius_n thus_o answer_v we_o he_o that_o will_v see_v more_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o epiph._n in_o this_o place_n may_v consult_v bishop_n usher_n from_o p._n 236._o to_o 246._o where_o he_o show_v evident_o that_o the_o romanist_n be_v aâ—rians_n not_o we_o although_o the_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o only_a thing_n thou_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v yet_o do_v it_o profit_v notwithstanding_o for_o another_o purpose_n now_o from_o this_o sentence_n can_v it_o not_o be_v infer_v that_o epiphanius_n think_v these_o prayer_n profitable_a to_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o any_o sin_n which_o the_o person_n have_v commit_v in_o his_o life_n time_n but_o this_o be_v only_o add_v because_o aerius_n go_v about_o to_o prove_v this_o only_a that_o prayer_n make_v for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n now_o whereas_o sect._n 10._o our_o author_n will_v avoid_v the_o answer_n usual_o return_v upon_o their_o argument_n sect._n 12_o by_o tell_v they_o that_o prayer_n be_v make_v for_o martyr_n apostle_n yea_o all_o saint_n 11._o p._n 115_o sect._n 11._o by_o the_o father_n which_o yet_o they_o dare_v not_o say_v be_v still_o in_o purgatory_n with_o this_o old_a salvo_n that_o such_o prayer_n as_o be_v make_v for_o remission_n of_o sin_n refreshment_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o make_v for_o they_o but_o imperfect_a sinner_n '_o this_o reply_n have_v be_v obviate_v already_o by_o i_o by_o show_v that_o such_o prayer_n as_o these_o he_o mention_n be_v make_v for_o the_o martyr_n and_o apostle_n as_o it_o be_v more_a large_o do_v by_o dally_n page_n 501._o and_o 507._o as_o to_o refreshment_n with_o such_o abundant_a evidence_n as_o i_o be_o confident_a master_n cressie_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o reply_v unto_o it_o and_o as_o to_o remission_n of_o sin_n with_o convictive_a evidence_n yea_o further_o they_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o they_o may_v be_v deliver_v from_o the_o punishment_n of_o hell_n and_o obtain_v everlasting_a bliss_n as_o appear_v from_o the_o liturgy_n of_o saint_n james_n that_o they_o may_v pass_v by_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n and_o the_o way_n of_o darkness_n from_o the_o prayer_n use_v of_o old_a in_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o all_o depart_v in_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n that_o they_o may_v be_v separate_v from_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o obtain_v everlasting_a bliss_n and_o from_o what_o the_o romanist_n say_v daily_o in_o their_o mass_n desire_v the_o lord_n jesus_n that_o he_o will_v deliver_v the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a that_o be_v depart_v from_o the_o pain_n of_o hell_n and_o from_o the_o deep_a lake_n and_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lion_n that_o hell_n do_v not_o swallow_v they_o up_o that_o they_o fall_v not_o into_o darkness_n sect._n 13_o well_o but_o our_o author_n proceed_v and_o tell_v we_o that_o indeed_o many_o of_o these_o prayer_n do_v regard_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n 11._o p._n 115._o sect._n 11._o and_o the_o glory_n ensue_v yet_o withal_o that_o they_o think_v to_o some_o soul_n a_o present_a refreshment_n do_v accrue_v in_o the_o intermedial_a condition_n be_v evident_a from_o what_o saint_n ambrose_n say_v he_o will_v never_o cease_v his_o intercession_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a emperor_n till_o he_o find_v a_o deliverance_n by_o they_o and_o we_o answer_v he_o where_o be_v it_o that_o saint_n ambrose_n say_v so_o and_o of_o what_o emperor_n do_v he_o think_v we_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v but_o to_o read_v over_o author_n to_o find_v out_o his_o quotation_n quotation_n do_v i_o say_v or_o falfifying_n for_o let_v we_o hear_v saint_n ambrose_n thus_o speak_v let_v we_o believe_v that_o valentinian_n be_v ascend_v from_o the_o desert_n that_o be_v to_o say_v imp._n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la valent_n imp._n from_o this_o dry_a and_o unmanured_a place_n unto_o those_o flowery_a delight_n where_o
infer_v that_o after_o the_o solemnity_n end_v he_o drink_v no_o more_o of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n which_o advantage_v he_o nothing_o and_o yet_o 3_o if_o neither_o of_o these_o two_o answer_n can_v stand_v yet_o see_v we_o have_v make_v it_o probable_a if_o not_o necessary_a that_o these_o word_n shall_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharistical_a cup_n his_o argument_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n irrevocable_o sect._n 17_o for_o a_o close_a i_o will_v mind_v he_o of_o what_o jansenius_n have_v long_o ago_o tell_v he_o that_o this_o argument_n be_v frivolous_a and_o unconcluding_a hence_o it_o appear_v locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la say_v he_o how_o infirm_a that_o argument_n be_v which_o some_o of_o our_o man_n suppose_v efficacious_a to_o prove_v transubstantiation_n from_o this_o that_o christ_n say_v non_fw-la bibam_fw-la de_fw-fr genimine_fw-la vitis_fw-la infer_v that_o what_o he_o drink_v of_o be_v not_o so_o etc._n etc._n for_o say_v he_o shall_v we_o grant_v which_o yet_o be_v less_o probable_a that_o this_o be_v say_v by_o s._n luke_n before_o the_o consecration_n yet_o by_o saint_n matth._n and_o mark_v it_o seem_v clear_o to_o be_v speak_v after_o so_o that_o our_o argue_v from_o uncertainty_n which_o with_o great_a probability_n may_v be_v reject_v then_o allege_v will_v never_o be_v sufficient_a to_o establish_v any_o dogma_fw-la or_o opinion_n but_o rather_o give_v occasion_n to_o heretic_n to_z be_v more_o pertinacious_a in_o their_o error_n when_o they_o see_v such_o weak_a argument_n bring_v against_o they_o thus_o i_o have_v vindicate_v the_o doctor_n argument_n sect._n 18_o i_o will_v but_o add_v one_o more_o signeur_fw-fr mich._n le_fw-fr faucheur_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr even_n de_fw-fr signeur_fw-fr though_o i_o can_v tell_v he_o where_o to_o meet_v with_o a_o hundred_o and_o that_o be_v this_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n six_o or_o seven_o time_n in_o one_o or_o two_o chapter_n call_v bread_n be_v bread_n but_o the_o eucharist_n after_o consecration_n be_v so_o call_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2_o cor._n 10.16_o 17._o chap._n 11._o vers_fw-la 26.27_o 28._o the_o minor_a be_v evident_a to_o any_o that_o have_v eye_n and_o will_v believe_v they_o the_o major_a i_o prove_v thus_o 1_o if_o that_o which_o be_v once_o call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v sufficient_o argue_v to_o be_v so_o albeit_o it_o have_v all_o the_o accident_n of_o another_o thing_n and_o seem_v to_o all_o our_o sense_n to_o be_v so_o then_o that_o which_o be_v call_v bread_n seven_o time_n and_o seem_v to_o all_o our_o sense_n so_o to_o be_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v to_o be_v so_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a for_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n thence_o prove_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v corporal_o in_o the_o sacrament_n if_o it_o do_v it_o efficacious_o than_o it_o must_v be_v so_o if_o not_o then_o it_o be_v not_o a_o infallible_a interpreter_n of_o scripture_n nor_o be_v their_o argument_n thence_o conclude_v now_o that_o this_o be_v say_v but_o once_o by_o christ_n albeit_o repeat_v by_o three_o evangelist_n and_o one_o apostle_n be_v clear_a this_o sequel_n be_v also_o evident_a for_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n for_o the_o one_o than_o the_o other_o viz._n that_o what_o be_v seven_o time_n call_v bread_n by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n shall_v be_v so_o when_o all_o our_o sense_n testify_v it_o then_o that_o which_o be_v but_o once_o call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v so_o in_o contradiction_n to_o all_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o universe_n to_o cite_v all_o the_o father_n that_o here_o speak_v for_o we_o will_v be_v a_o endless_a work_n sect._n 19_o he_o that_o will_v see_v some_o hundred_o of_o evident_a citation_n to_o this_o purpose_n let_v he_o consult_v bishop_n usher_n answer_v to_o the_o jesuit_n challenge_n bishop_n morton_n bishop_n tailor_n and_o doctor_n feat_o on_o this_o very_a subject_n book_n very_o obvious_a but_o especial_o the_o two_o voluminous_a confuter_n of_o cardinal_n perron_n mich._n le_fw-fr faveheur_fw-fr and_o bernardus_n albertinus_n to_o who_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o abundant_a satisfaction_n and_o shall_v content_v myself_o with_o one_o only_a passage_n of_o theodoret_n who_o in_o his_o second_o dial._n bring_v in_o a_o man_n contend_v that_o christ_n humane_a nature_n be_v swallow_v up_o of_o the_o divine_a which_o he_o illustrate_v thus_o as_o the_o element_n or_o symbol_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n before_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v one_o thing_n but_o after_o invocation_n be_v change_v and_o make_v another_o so_o the_o lord_n body_n after_o his_o ascension_n be_v change_v into_o a_o divine_a substance_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v you_o be_v catch_v in_o your_o own_o net_n for_o the_o symbol_n do_v not_o go_v out_o of_o their_o proper_a nature_n but_o remain_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o former_a substance_n wherein_o they_o be_v and_o thus_o i_o have_v finish_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o chapter_n concern_v transubstantiation_n sect._n 20_o i_o come_v now_o to_o return_v a_o answer_n to_o what_o he_o have_v plead_v for_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o first_o the_o place_n which_o he_o cite_v out_o of_o st._n chrysostome_n will_v not_o conclude_v his_o purpose_n for_o albeit_o he_o say_v 24._o 1_o cor._n 10._o ho._n 24._o let_v we_o imitate_v the_o barbarous_a magi_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o say_v as_o our_o author_n parenthesis_n will_v have_v he_o that_o we_o shall_v imitate_v they_o in_o worship_v our_o lord_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o address_v themselves_o unto_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o fear_n or_o horror_n let_v we_o therefore_o stir_v up_o ourselves_o say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d far_o great_a fear_n than_o they_o for_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o comparison_n require_v and_o that_o this_o word_n ordinary_o bear_v the_o sense_n if_o any_o will_v far_o be_v inform_v let_v he_o have_v recourse_n to_o beza_n or_o any_o other_o commentator_n upon_o the_o 5._o heb._n 7_o and_o he_o may_v receive_v satisfaction_n from_o they_o second_o do_v chrysostome_n indeed_o speak_v of_o adoration_n yet_o may_v he_o bid_v we_o imitate_v these_o magi_n not_o by_o adore_v the_o element_n but_o he_o that_o be_v represent_v by_o they_o matth._n hom._n 8_o q._n in_o matth._n thus_o when_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v christ_n who_o beg_v and_o receive_v in_o the_o poor_a man_n sheaf_n and_o bid_v we_o reverence_v he_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o reverence_n do_v to_o the_o poor_a man_n but_o direct_v to_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n the_o other_o three_o citation_n tell_v we_o only_o this_o sect._n 21_o that_o they_o do_v adore_v christ_n flesh_n in_o the_o sacrament_n 131._o mr._n cr._n p._n 131._o and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v very_o 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sect._n 23_o he_o propound_v the_o very_a same_o objection_n i_o fear_v say_v he_o to_o worship_v the_o earth_n lest_o he_o that_o make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n shall_v damn_v i_o for_o it_o thus_o fluctuate_a i_o turn_v to_o christ_n and_o here_o i_o find_v how_o the_o earth_n may_v be_v worship_v because_o flesh_n be_v of_o the_o earth_n now_o he_o take_v flesh_n upon_o he_o and_o give_v we_o his_o flesh_n to_o eat_v which_o no_o man_n eat_v nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la adoraverit_fw-la but_o he_o that_o have_v first_o adore_v viz._n christ_n as_o it_o follow_v cum_fw-la adoras_fw-la illum_fw-la that_o be_v when_o you_o worship_v he_o to_o wit_n christ_n let_v not_o the_o thought_n be_v of_o the_o flesh_n no_o you_o must_v not_o worship_v that_o alone_o but_o as_o conjoin_v with_o the_o deity_n do_v we_o eat_v that_o flesh_n that_o
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