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and_o also_o animate_v we_o to_o persist_v in_o it_o since_o those_o who_o have_v quit_v our_o communion_n and_o relinquish_v our_o faith_n in_o other_o matter_n discern_v so_o strong_a motive_n to_o retain_v this_o that_o though_o very_o willing_a they_o can_v without_o violence_n to_o their_o conscience_n renounce_v it_o pag._n 117._o l._n 20._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o great_a man_n of_o their_o church_n etc._n etc._n a_o forgery_n our_o great_a man_n make_v the_o contrary_a confession_n and_o if_o any_o of_o they_o seem_v to_o speak_v towards_o what_o this_o minister_n feign_v it_o be_v with_o respect_n to_o transubstantiation_n not_o a_o corporal_a presence_n particular_o scotus_n misquote_v praef._n p._n 6._o that_o most_o subtle_a doctor_n as_o have_v be_v often_o answer_v to_o this_o most_o impudent_a objection_n lay_v it_o down_o that_o the_o point_n discuss_v by_o he_o in_o his_o 4ti_fw-la dist_n 11._o q._n 3._o do_v all_o intend_v to_o maintain_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v true_o in_o the_o eucharist_n because_o to_o deny_v that_o be_v plain_o against_o faith_n for_o it_o be_v express_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o faith_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v contain_v there_o true_o and_o real_o and_o afterward_o in_o his_o reply_n to_o objection_n fix_v on_o transubstantiation_n as_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o substantial_a presence_n he_o add_v and_o if_o you_o demand_v why_o the_o church_n choose_v this_o so_o difficult_a a_o sense_n i._n e._n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v the_o manner_n of_o this_o article_n when_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v render_v in_o a_o sense_n easy_a and_o as_o to_o appearance_n true_o concern_v this_o article_n to_o this_o objection_n he_o return_v i_o say_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v expound_v by_o the_o direction_n of_o that_o spirit_n by_o which_o they_o be_v compose_v and_o so_o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n have_v interpret_v by_o the_o same_o spirit_n by_o which_o the_o faith_n be_v deliver_v to_o we_o viz._n teach_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o therefore_o she_o choose_v this_o sense_n because_o it_o be_v true_a for_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o make_v that_o true_a or_o not_o true_a but_o of_o god_n the_o institutor_n but_o the_o church_n direct_v herein_o as_o it_o be_v believe_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n have_v explicate_v the_o sense_n deliver_v to_o her_n by_o god._n now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o schoolman_n be_v here_o speak_v of_o transubstantiation_n not_o of_o the_o corporal_a presence_n next_o that_o he_o say_v not_o the_o facility_n or_o appearance_n of_o a_o sense_n to_o be_v that_o design_v in_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v regard_v in_o faith_n but_o the_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n in_o who_o custody_n the_o traditive_a sense_n of_o scripture_n i.e._n what_o god_n intend_v not_o what_o we_o surmise_v be_v deposit_v and_o by_o who_o mouth_n the_o holy_a spirit_n speak_v last_o that_o the_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n be_v for_o transubstantiation_n therefore_o this_o must_v be_v conclude_v to_o be_v the_o proper_a sense_n of_o scripture_n though_o that_o scripture_n sound_v never_o so_o plausible_o for_o some_o other_o sense_n our_o adversary_n persevere_v in_o a_o imposture_n with_o so_o much_o pertinacy_n and_o immodesty_n extort_v this_o tedious_a repetition_n all_o we_o shall_v further_o remark_n upon_o it_o be_v that_o it_o yield_v this_o minister_n a_o very_a wholesome_a instruction_n how_o to_o interpret_v scripture_n not_o by_o jewish_a custom_n nor_o rabbinical_a delirium_n not_o by_o the_o superficial_a notice_n of_o sense_n or_o vain_a maxim_n and_o cheat_a suggestion_n of_o science_n false_o so_o call_v but_o by_o the_o guidance_n of_o the_o church_n assist_v with_o the_o holy_a spirit_n for_o of_o these_o two_o director_n in_o expound_v scripture_n this_o minister_n seldom_o have_v regard_n whilst_o catholic_n inquire_v of_o the_o church_n what_o sense_n the_o holy_a spirit_n chief_o design_v and_o without_o hesitancy_n adhere_v to_o that_o she_o give_v whether_o it_o be_v literal_a or_o mystical_a because_o our_o lord_n promise_n of_o assist_v the_o church_n and_o lead_v she_o into_o all_o truth_n be_v so_o absolute_a that_o we_o think_v we_o may_v as_o just_o distrust_v his_o be_v the_o messiah_n as_o be_v jealous_a of_o his_o fidelity_n or_o providence_n in_o acquit_v himself_o of_o this_o engagement_n shall_v we_o not_o be_v suspicious_a if_o without_o apprehension_n nay_o with_o perfect_a firmness_n and_o security_n we_o do_v not_o acquiesce_v in_o her_o exposition_n and_o how_o many_o of_o those_o who_o have_v leap_v from_o this_o rock_n and_o commit_v themselves_o to_o the_o conduct_n of_o a_o private_a spirit_n be_v now_o carry_v away_o by_o the_o wind_n of_o socinianism_n judaisme_n mahomatism_n or_o irreligion_n whilst_o we_o that_o stand_v on_o it_o have_v not_o only_o the_o same_o faith_n still_o but_o can_v possible_o fail_v by_o misbelief_n pag._n 118._o l._n 7._o it_o be_v undeniable_a that_o their_o interpretation_n of_o those_o word_n of_o institution_n destroy_v the_o certainty_n of_o sense_n etc._n etc._n if_o he_o mean_v our_o interpretation_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n than_o he_o contradict_v what_o he_o thrice_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o lutheran_n do_v no_o violence_n to_o sense_n but_o if_o he_o mean_v the_o interpretation_n of_o transubstantiation_n his_o observation_n be_v wide_a of_o the_o point_n contest_v but_o in_o both_o meaning_n it_o be_v false_a for_o we_o derogate_v from_o sense_n not_o in_o the_o least_o and_o if_o we_o do_v in_o one-case_n in_o obedience_n to_o faith_n whereto_o we_o think_v sense_n may_v as_o just_o be_v captivate_v as_o the_o understanding_n that_o will_v not_o infer_v we_o may_v in_o another_o destitute_a of_o such_o a_o revelation_n till_o a_o particular_a premise_v can_v support_v a_o universal_a conclusion_n the_o fallacy_n and_o ignorance_n of_o this_o importunate_a argument_n so_o often_o bring_v and_o so_o often_o baffle_v and_o expose_v must_v certain_o be_v use_v by_o these_o man_n mere_o to_o deceive_v the_o people_n as_o to_o the_o paradox_n of_o miracle_n be_v discoverable_a by_o sense_n only_o we_o refer_v this_o minister_n to_o calvin_n bishop_n forbes_n and_o many_o other_o classic_a reformer_n for_o correction_n who_o esteem_v they_o stupid_a that_o disclaim_v the_o eucharistical_a miracle_n and_o true_o by_o sense_n we_o discern_v none_o there_o how_o then_o by_o your_o favour_n come_v they_o to_o discern_v miracle_n in_o the_o eucharist_n but_o what_o be_v there_o no_o miracle_n in_o the_o conception_n of_o our_o lord_n what_o sense_n acquaint_v man_n with_o it_o that_o he_o be_v a_o man_n we_o may_v know_v by_o sense_n but_o that_o he_o be_v miraculous_o conceive_v only_a revelation_n not_o experience_n assure_v all_o beside_o his_o mother_n to_o pass_v this_o how_o come_v it_o to_o be_v collect_v that_o if_o one_o of_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n can_v be_v have_v straight_o our_o certainty_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n be_v destroy_v tell_v i_o i_o pray_v be_v miracle_n its_o sole_a evidence_n be_v accomplishment_n of_o old_a testament-prophecy_n none_o or_o uncertain_a have_v all_o believer_n miracle_n before_o they_o assent_v do_v none_o believe_v with_o certainty_n but_o such_o as_o have_v miracle_n to_o attest_v what_o be_v tender_v to_o they_o what_o be_v become_v of_o the_o beatitude_n bless_a be_v those_o that_o have_v not_o see_v a_o miracle_n christ_n rise_v and_o yet_o have_v believe_v on_o the_o credible_a relation_n of_o other_o and_o because_o it_o be_v foretell_v he_o shall_v rise_v etc._n etc._n if_o the_o performance_n of_o something_o in_o nature_n otherwise_o than_o any_o create_a power_n use_n or_o can_v do_v i_o say_v the_o performance_n of_o it_o by_o power_n divine_a be_v a_o miracle_n and_o that_o such_o a_o performance_n may_v be_v effect_v in_o spiritual_a as_o well_o as_o sensible_a affair_n the_o knowledge_n of_o which_o may_n and_o must_v be_v attain_v if_o it_o be_v have_v by_o a_o information_n not_o sensible_a than_o the_o confine_n of_o miracle_n to_o be_v object_n of_o sense_n be_v explode_v have_v thus_o overturn_v two_o of_o his_o observation_n his_o arguing_n from_o they_o vanish_v as_o do_v all_o other_o bubble_n pag._n 119._o l._n 4._o no_o papist_n can_v have_v any_o reason_n to_o believe_v transubstantiation_n to_o be_v true_a but_o because_o he_o read_v those_o word_n of_o holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n a_o papist_n have_v the_o same_o reason_n to_o believe_v transubstantiation_n though_o he_o can_v read_v at_o all_o as_o the_o first_o christian_n have_v before_o the_o gospel_n be_v write_v or_o a_o blind_a man_n have_v now_o the_o mistake_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n tillotson_n tenison_n 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answerer_n and_o other_o insist_v so_o eager_o and_o obstinate_o on_o the_o authority_n of_o sense_n grow_v if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o artifice_n perhaps_o from_o their_o take_v the_o maxim_n nothing_o be_v in_o the_o intellect_n which_o be_v not_o before_o in_o the_o sense_n absolute_o as_o if_o the_o only_a conveyer_n of_o notice_n to_o the_o mind_n be_v the_o sense_n or_o no_o thought_n have_v its_o birth_n there_o without_o a_o external_a promter_n whenas_o to_o omit_v the_o ill_a consequence_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o late_a there_o be_v other_o mean_n of_o acquaint_v the_o intellect_n without_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o sense_n as_o by_o good_a and_o bad_a spirit_n etc._n etc._n now_o these_o either_o convey_v always_o the_o same_o notice_n as_o the_o sense_n or_o they_o do_v not_o if_o they_o do_v than_o the_o mind_n must_v ever_o judge_v with_o the_o sense_n which_o be_v against_o experience_n if_o they_o do_v not_o how_o come_v the_o intellect_n to_o determine_v against_o the_o notice_n of_o sense_n e._n g._n in_o the_o magnitude_n of_o the_o sun_n sure_o it_o neglect_v the_o information_n of_o sense_n either_o upon_o some_o other_o more_o powerful_a motive_n and_o overrule_a remonstrance_n than_o sense_n have_v give_v or_o arbitrary_o but_o whether_o way_n soever_o it_o go_v the_o maxim_n be_v reject_v and_o the_o mind_n it_o be_v clear_a do_v not_o find_v itself_o oblige_v to_o determine_v in_o all_o case_n as_o sense_n depose_v sense_n then_o be_v no_o judge_n but_o only_o a_o conveyer_n of_o intelligence_n to_o the_o judge_n according_a to_o which_o intelligence_n we_o confess_v that_o judge_n be_v to_o censure_v and_o resolve_v except_o when_o better_a intelligence_n from_o reason_n or_o revelation_n be_v interpose_v and_o arrest_v such_o a_o judgement_n now_o sense_n inform_v a_o catholic_n mind_n that_o have_v so_o much_o learning_n as_o to_o read_v which_o protestant_n think_v few_o have_v they_o be_v so_o ignorant_o educate_v that_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n be_v in_o that_o book_n the_o church_n tell_v he_o be_v the_o gospel_n and_o neither_o reason_n nor_o revelation_n counterven_a this_o notice_n a_o papist_n judge_n with_o certainty_n according_a to_o the_o deposition_n of_o the_o sense_n but_o when_o a_o papist_n desire_v to_o proceed_v further_o and_o will_v understand_v not_o only_o that_o there_o be_v such_o word_n but_o also_o what_o be_v that_o very_a meaning_n not_o which_o may_v be_v put_v upon_o they_o wherein_o his_o sense_n and_o reason_n may_v assist_v he_o but_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n intend_v and_o the_o church_n hold_v than_o he_o rely_v not_o on_o his_o sense_n or_o reason_n only_o because_o he_o know_v the_o sentiment_n of_o man_n to_o be_v very_o different_a as_o among_o themselves_o so_o from_o the_o church_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v and_o if_o he_o may_v rely_v on_o his_o own_o so_o may_v other_o and_o consequent_o collect_v opposite_a truth_n from_o their_o discordant_a conception_n wherefore_o he_o resort_v to_o that_o hand_n which_o reach_v out_o to_o he_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n as_o god_n word_n to_o give_v he_o also_o their_o true_a meaning_n which_o he_o receive_v and_o profess_v without_o demur_n or_o fear_n and_o thus_o papist_n arrive_v at_o all_o saving-truth_n thus_o they_o attain_v unanimity_n and_o learn_v not_o only_o to_o think_v but_o speak_v the_o same_o thing_n whilst_o the_o mind_n and_o language_n of_o all_o sectary_n who_o pretend_v to_o follow_v sense_n and_o reason_n only_o in_o their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n be_v at_o war_n and_o babilonish_n for_o private_a spirit_n be_v many_o and_o be_v dissenter_n but_o the_o church_n the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v but_o one_o and_o at_o unity_n with_o itself_o and_o thus_o i_o suppose_v not_o our_o but_o the_o minister_n culpable_a ignorance_n be_v apparent_a ibid._n l_o 28._o but_o let_v we_o quit_v this_o reflection_n etc._n etc._n content_a if_o he_o will_v not_o hasten_v to_o new_a untruth_n where_o be_v it_o confess_v that_o we_o have_v neither_o command_n nor_o example_n in_o holy_a scripture_n for_o adore_v our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n if_o there_o he_o any_o command_n for_o adore_v our_o lord_n at_o all_o there_o be_v for_o adore_v he_o in_o the_o eucharist_n for_o once_o adorable_a and_o he_o be_v always_o and_o everywhere_o adorable_a in_o what_o condition_n or_o circumstance_n soever_o and_o special_a injunction_n or_o instance_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o warrant_n or_o oblige_v we_o to_o adore_v st._n austin_n know_v there_o be_v a_o command_n or_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v in_o psal_n 98._o peccemus_fw-la non_fw-la adorando_fw-la again_o though_o we_o confess_v that_o defect_n may_v possible_o happen_v yet_o who_o grant_v they_o to_o be_v infinite_a or_o difficult_o avoidable_a be_v it_o not_o rather_o difficult_a consider_v the_o caution_n of_o the_o church_n that_o any_o defect_n shall_v chance_v which_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o eucharist_n can_v we_o not_o have_v a_o moral_a certainty_n the_o priest_n have_v the_o order_n to_o which_o he_o pretend_v do_v not_o our_o sense_n inform_v we_o as_o to_o both_o the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o serious_a application_n of_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o as_o to_o the_o intention_n it_o be_v true_a it_o be_v deem_v necessary_a will_n the_o minister_n profess_v that_o none_o be_v needful_a to_o the_o performance_n of_o a_o religious_a action_n but_o what_o degree_n or_o sort_n of_o intention_n be_v a_o question_n in_o the_o school_n some_o divine_n require_v more_o some_o less_o of_o the_o late_a kind_n if_o he_o please_v the_o reader_n may_v view_v what_o contenson_n write_v of_o it_o theolog._n mentis_fw-la &_o cordis_n l._n 11._o p._n 1._o diss_n 2._o append._n append._n 2._o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v undoubtling_o to_o be_v assert_v say_v this_o modern_a divine_a that_o a_o intention_n of_o serious_o perform_v the_o external_n rite_n among_o christian_n count_v religious_a suffice_v for_o the_o validity_n of_o a_o sacrament_n and_o that_o be_v observe_v no_o retention_n nor_o perverseness_n of_o the_o minister_n intention_n do_v void_a a_o sacrament_n this_o position_n he_o confirm_v by_o many_o authority_n and_o conclude_v they_o with_o that_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_n 14._o cap._n 6._o can._n 9_o where_o that_o holy_a synod_n declare_v the_o sacrament_n not_o to_o be_v perform_v if_o a_o priest_n act_n in_o jest_n etc._n etc._n infer_v thereupon_o that_o the_o council_n understand_v by_o a_o intention_n of_o do_v what_o the_o church_n do_v not_o as_o this_o minister_n of_o do_v what_o the_o church_n intend_v but_o a_o do_v with_o external_a seriousness_n what_o the_o church_n prescribe_v which_o inference_n he_o enforce_v by_o cardinal_n palavicini_n reflection_n on_o that_o passage_n of_o the_o council_n par_fw-fr 2._o l._n 12._o c._n 10._o from_o these_o last_o word_n any_o one_o read_v 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