science_n for_o it_o be_v with_o the_o mystery_n of_o our_o religion_n as_o with_o wholesome_a pill_n for_o the_o sick_a which_o swallow_v whole_a have_v the_o virtue_n to_o cure_v but_o chew_v be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n cast_v up_o again_o without_o effect_n stud._n the_o danger_n in_o my_o opinion_n arise_v not_o from_o the_o mastication_n of_o the_o physic_n but_o from_o the_o indispose_a stomach_n and_o palate_n of_o the_o patient_n to_o who_o health_n religion_n conduce_v more_o when_o it_o be_v relish_v by_o a_o uninfected_a judgement_n in_o the_o particular_a account_n of_o it_o than_o when_o it_o be_v take_v in_o the_o lump_n by_o a_o implicit_a faith_n which_o be_v a_o way_n agreeable_a not_o to_o grow_v man_n but_o to_o child_n in_o understanding_n who_o we_o can_v satisfy_v and_o must_v not_o distaste_n but_o because_o you_o seem_v not_o willing_a to_o intrude_v further_o into_o this_o mystery_n of_o the_o godhead_n consider_v in_o its_o self_n and_o person_n which_o yet_o as_o you_o will_v make_v it_o be_v no_o more_o a_o mystery_n than_o if_o his_o majesty_n shall_v be_v call_v one_o sovereign_a with_o three_o person_n be_v represent_v by_o three_o successive_a lord_n lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n let_v we_o descend_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o godhead_n in_o its_o outward_a work_n in_o which_o perhaps_o we_o may_v have_v sure_a foot_n see_v philosopher_n unassisted_a by_o revelation_n have_v discourse_v much_o upon_o our_o three_o head_n the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n mr._n hobbes_n the_o question_n about_o the_o magnitude_n of_o the_o world_n 1_o whether_o it_o be_v finite_a or_o infinite_a or_o concern_v its_o duration_n whether_o it_o have_v a_o beginning_n or_o be_v eternal_a be_v not_o to_o be_v determine_v by_o philosopher_n whatsoever_o we_o know_v that_o be_v man_n we_o learn_v it_o from_o our_o phantasm_n and_o of_o infinite_a whether_o magnitude_n or_o time_n there_o be_v no_o phantasm_n at_o all_o so_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a either_o for_o a_o man_n or_o any_o other_o creature_n to_o have_v any_o conception_n of_o infinite_a stud._n you_o prove_v not_o here_o that_o a_o man_n can_v have_v no_o conception_n but_o only_o that_o he_o can_v have_v no_o image_n of_o a_o infinite_a cause_n whereas_o it_o have_v be_v already_o show_v &_o may_v hereafter_o be_v evince_v from_o the_o immateriality_n of_o man_n soul_n that_o all_o conception_n and_o idea_n be_v not_o phantasm_n or_o arise_v not_o from_o they_o but_o whilst_o you_o plead_v the_o difficulty_n of_o conceive_v a_o eternal_a be_v in_o reference_n to_o the_o creation_n you_o elsewhere_o â—0_n admit_v of_o a_o idea_n difficult_a enough_o for_o you_o can_v feign_v in_o your_o mind_n that_o a_o point_n may_v swell_v to_o a_o great_a figure_n such_o as_o that_o of_o man_n and_o this_o you_o say_v â—01_n be_v the_o only_a ideâ—_n which_o we_o have_v at_o the_o name_n of_o creator_n and_o that_o such_o a_o figure_n may_v again_o contract_v itself_o into_o the_o narrowness_n of_o a_o point_n hereby_o you_o admit_v of_o a_o natural_a phantasm_n of_o creation_n out_o of_o nothing_o as_o also_o of_o re-annihilation_a for_o all_o the_o suppose_a point_n beside_o that_o first_o which_o be_v just_a commensurate_n to_o so_o much_o space_n can_v neither_o arise_v out_o of_o that_o one_o nor_o shrink_v into_o it_o and_o whereaâ—_n you_o add_v that_o you_o can_v comprehend_v in_o your_o mind_n how_o this_o may_v possible_o be_v do_v in_o nature_n ib._n of_o which_o before_o you_o prant_v a_o phantasm_n which_o arise_v from_o real_a impulse_n if_o all_o be_v body_n it_o be_v as_o much_o as_o if_o you_o have_v say_v you_o can_v and_o you_o can_v comprehend_v it_o and_o i_o can_v but_o here_o admire_v it_o in_o a_o man_n who_o pretend_v to_o a_o consistency_n with_o himself_o that_o you_o shall_v allow_v the_o above_o say_v phantasm_n and_o yet_o reprehend_v it_o as_o principle_n void_a of_o sense_n 3._o and_o which_o a_o man_n at_o the_o first_o hear_n whether_o geometrician_n or_o not_o geometriciam_fw-la must_v abhor_v the_o which_o notwithstanding_o the_o learned_a lord_n bacon_n do_v embrace_v that_o the_o same_o body_n without_o add_v to_o it_o or_o take_v from_o it_o be_v sometime_o great_a and_o sometime_o less_o but_o to_o return_v to_o the_o conception_n of_o a_o eternal_a cause_n though_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o have_v a_o image_n of_o god_n yet_o it_o be_v easy_a by_o the_o help_n of_o reason_n from_o the_o image_n of_o thing_n we_o see_v to_o climb_v by_o degree_n above_o the_o visible_a world_n to_o the_o eternal_a creator_n of_o it_o curiosity_n or_o love_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o cause_n do_v draw_v a_o man_n as_o you_o will_v grant_v 51._o from_o consideration_n of_o the_o effect_n to_o seek_v the_o cause_n and_o again_o the_o cause_n of_o that_o cause_n till_o of_o necessity_n he_o must_v come_v to_o this_o thought_n at_o last_o that_o there_o be_v some_o cause_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o former_a cause_n but_o be_v eternal_a and_o be_v call_v god_n mr._n hobbes_n though_o 307_o a_o man_n may_v from_o some_o effect_n proceed_v to_o the_o immediate_a cause_n thereof_o and_o from_o that_o to_o a_o more_o remote_a cause_n and_o so_o ascend_v continual_o by_o right_a ratiocination_n from_o cause_n to_o cause_n yet_o he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o proceed_v eternal_o but_o weary_a will_n at_o last_o give_v over_o without_o know_v whether_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o he_o to_o proceed_v to_o a_o end_n or_o not_o stud._n we_o be_v not_o as_o you_o imagine_v weary_v in_o this_o assent_n of_o our_o reason_n upon_o the_o several_a roundles_a of_o second_o cause_n to_o that_o which_o be_v eternal_a for_o we_o pass_v not_o through_o every_o single_a cause_n and_o effect_n but_o like_o those_o who_o search_v their_o pedigree_n no_o further_o than_o their_o great_a great_a grandfather_n yet_o say_v they_o at_o first_o spring_v from_o adam_n we_o view_v some_o more_o immediate_a cause_n and_o effect_n and_o consider_v that_o there_o be_v the_o like_a reason_n of_o dependency_n in_o the_o rest_n and_o thence_o as_o it_o be_v leap_z forward_z unto_o the_o top_n of_o this_o iacob_n ladder_n and_o arrive_v aâ—_n the_o acknowledgement_n of_o a_o eternal_a immovable_a mover_n mr._n hobbes_n though_o from_o this_o that_o nothing_o can_v move_v itself_o 307_o it_o may_v right_o be_v infer_v that_o there_o be_v some_o first_o eternal_a movent_fw-la yet_o 〈◊〉_d can_v never_o be_v infer_v though_o some_o use_n to_o make_v such_o inference_n that_o that_o movent_fw-la be_v eternal_o immovable_a but_o rather_o eternal_o move_v for_o as_o it_o be_v true_a that_o nothing_o be_v move_v by_o itself_o so_o be_v aâ—_n true_a also_o that_o nothing_o be_v move_v but_o by_o that_o which_o be_v already_o move_v stud._n here_o you_o proceed_v not_o with_o such_o consistence_n and_o scrupulous_a ratiocination_n as_o become_v a_o philosopher_n for_o if_o nothing_o be_v move_v by_o itself_o then_o to_o say_v a_o eternal_a mover_n be_v move_v be_v to_o say_v that_o that_o eternal_a be_v not_o eternal_a for_o there_o be_v something_o presuppose_v to_o give_v it_o motion_n and_o another_o thing_n forego_v and_o cause_v that_o motion_n and_o so_o on_o in_o infinitum_fw-la yet_o you_o acknowledge_v in_o your_o book_n â—3_n a_o first_o power_n of_o all_o power_n but_o at_o the_o present_a your_o reason_n be_v connect_v with_o your_o belove_a notion_n oâ—_n a_o corporeal_a universe_n for_o matter_n can_v never_o move_v but_o by_o that_o which_o be_v move_v and_o so_o forward_o not_o to_o a_o eternal_a cause_n but_o in_o a_o endless_a circle_n which_o yet_o in_o some_o part_n must_v have_v have_v a_o beginning_n for_o here_o the_o question_n will_v return_v how_o come_v the_o sluggish_a matter_n which_o can_v help_v itself_o to_o have_v motion_n at_o first_o impart_v to_o it_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o eternal_a incorporeal_a selfmoving_a mind_n wherefore_o you_o be_v again_z involve_v in_o the_o condemnation_n of_o the_o epicurean_o of_o who_o cicero_n in_o his_o first_o de_fw-fr finibus_fw-la reliquerunt_fw-la have_v leave_v this_o pertinent_a observation_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n to_o be_v inquire_v after_o in_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n the_o one_o what_o the_o matter_n be_v out_o of_o which_o every_o thing_n be_v make_v the_o other_o what_o be_v the_o force_n or_o motion_n which_o do_v every_o thing_n the_o epicurean_o have_v reason_v concern_v matter_n but_o the_o efficient_a power_n be_v a_o part_n of_o philosophy_n which_o they_o have_v leave_v untilled_a so_o little_a of_o reason_n in_o this_o article_n of_o the_o creation_n be_v on_o the_o side_n of_o some_o man_n who_o will_v monopolise_v that_o honourable_a name_n mr._n hobbes_n natural_a reason_n be_v not_o so_o much_o concern_v in_o this_o question_n because_o 307._o so_o
and_o dependency_n and_o connect_v miriads_o of_o such_o idea_n as_o have_v no_o phantasm_n appertain_v to_o they_o must_v be_v divine_a image_n and_o thought_n be_v produce_v in_o we_o in_o much_o disorder_n by_o reason_n that_o the_o object_n which_o we_o converse_v with_o be_v many_o and_o divers_a and_o because_o our_o study_n vary_v upon_o infinite_a occasion_n so_o that_o our_o thought_n at_o first_o do_v spring_n up_o one_o by_o one_o as_o jewel_n be_v find_v it_o be_v then_o the_o work_n of_o reason_n to_o recall_v and_o gather_v together_o all_o such_o of_o they_o as_o be_v of_o the_o same_o kind_n and_o to_o lay_v aside_o the_o rest_n for_o a_o convenient_a season_n and_o to_o judge_v further_o of_o their_o agreeableness_n &_o how_o they_o depend_v upon_o and_o illustrate_v each_o other_o and_o so_o as_o it_o be_v to_o string_n they_o into_o a_o long_a aâ—d_n nervous_a coherence_n a_o chain_n most_o fit_a to_o adorn_v a_o philosopher_n i_o know_v not_o how_o a_o phantasm_n or_o move_v part_n in_o the_o brain_n can_v receive_v any_o other_o into_o mutual_a dependence_n which_o the_o force_n of_o the_o antecedent_n or_o consequent_a object_n add_v not_o to_o it_o for_o that_o which_o be_v in_o motion_n act_v not_o at_o a_o distance_n but_o press_v only_o its_o neighbour_n and_o that_o by_o way_n of_o pulsion_n not_o attraction_n again_o reason_n by_o the_o draw_n of_o divers_a consequence_n correct_v sense_n which_o though_o it_o do_v not_o proper_o deceive_v be_v such_o a_o perception_n as_o natural_o arise_v from_o such_o a_o pressure_n and_o such_o a_o dispose_a organ_n yet_o will_v it_o leave_v we_o for_o ever_o in_o ignorance_n if_o our_o reason_n do_v not_o convince_v we_o that_o the_o object_n be_v not_o adequate_o represent_v by_o the_o image_n in_o sense_n imagination_n or_o memory_n one_o of_o the_o fix_a star_n seem_v not_o big_a than_o that_o in_o the_o badge_n of_o the_o order_n of_o the_o garter_n the_o image_n be_v no_o great_a the_o motion_n of_o no_o further_a force_n and_o therefore_o reason_n which_o by_o consequence_n in_o astronomy_n infer_v that_o it_o be_v big_a than_o the_o earth_n be_v something_o much_o superior_a to_o motion_n derive_v from_o the_o object_n if_o after_o all_o this_o a_o man_n shall_v say_v that_o the_o very_a train_n of_o corporeal_a motion_n in_o the_o head_n be_v the_o reason_n which_o judge_v of_o that_o train_n disturb_v its_o dependence_n make_v by_o succession_n of_o object_n dispose_v it_o after_o a_o new_a manner_n and_o also_o at_o pleasure_n order_v the_o train_n of_o logical_a idea_n not_o generate_v by_o motion_n it_o may_v soon_o be_v resolve_v concern_v such_o a_o say_n than_o about_o the_o perpendicular_a and_o circle_n in_o the_o angle_n of_o contact_n touch_v which_o you_o think_v you_o have_v write_v confute_v shrewd_a matter_n that_o it_o do_v not_o mere_o incline_v to_o but_z be_v co_z incident_a with_o nonsense_n mr._n hobbes_n here_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n say_v and_o 60._o too_o much_o to_o be_v confute_v yet_o almost_o every_o say_n may_v be_v disprove_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v reprehend_v in_o sum_n it_o be_v all_o error_n and_o rail_n but_o what_o will_v you_o say_v 96._o if_o perhaps_o ratiocination_n be_v nothing_o but_o the_o couple_a and_o concatenation_n of_o name_n by_o the_o verb_n est_fw-fr whence_o we_o collect_v by_o reason_n nothing_o at_o all_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n but_o of_o their_o appellation_n to_o wit_n whether_o we_o join_v the_o name_n of_o thing_n according_a to_o the_o agreement_n which_o we_o make_v at_o pleasure_n about_o their_o signification_n or_o whether_o we_o do_v otherwise_o if_o this_o be_v so_o as_o so_o it_o may_v be_v ratiocination_n may_v depend_v upon_o name_n name_n upon_o imagination_n and_o imagination_n perhaps_o as_o i_o think_v upon_o the_o motion_n of_o corporeal_a organ_n and_o so_o still_o the_o soul_n will_v be_v nothing_o else_o beside_o agitation_n in_o certain_a part_n of_o a_o well_o frame_v body_n nay_o it_o be_v plain_a 49._o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o universal_a but_o name_n and_o reason_n 18._o be_v nothing_o but_o reckon_n of_o the_o consequence_n of_o general_a name_n agree_v upon_o to_o certain_a purpose_n stud._n let_v des-cartes_n 96._o answer_v this_o objection_n to_o who_o you_o once_o propose_v it_o there_o be_v say_v he_o in_o ratiocination_n a_o couple_v not_o of_o name_n but_o of_o thing_n signify_v by_o certain_a name_n and_o i_o admire_v how_o the_o contrary_a can_v enter_v into_o the_o mind_n of_o any_o man_n for_o who_o doubt_v that_o a_o frenchman_n and_o a_o german_a do_v reason_n the_o same_o thing_n concern_v the_o same_o subject_n whilst_o they_o conceive_v their_o notion_n in_o different_a word_n or_o name_n and_o do_v not_o this_o philosopher_n condemn_v himself_o whilst_o he_o speak_v concern_v pact_n which_o we_o make_v at_o pleasure_n teach_v the_o signification_n of_o word_n for_o if_o he_o admit_v that_o any_o thing_n be_v signify_v by_o word_n why_o will_v not_o he_o have_v our_o ratiocination_n consist_v in_o that_o something_o which_o be_v signify_v rather_o than_o in_o the_o bare_a word_n themselves_o thus_o he_o and_o as_o i_o think_v with_o unanswerable_a pertinence_n it_o may_v be_v also_o say_v that_o by_o this_o doctrine_n a_o ass_n and_o a_o dumb-man_n be_v equal_o without_o reason_n and_o that_o a_o parrot_n be_v endue_v with_o it_o mr._n hobbes_n there_o 16._o be_v no_o reason_v without_o speech_n by_o 46._o the_o advantage_n of_o name_n it_o be_v that_o we_o be_v capable_a of_o science_n which_o beast_n for_o want_n of_o they_o be_v not_o nor_o man_n without_o the_o use_n of_o they_o stud._n where_o be_v your_o reason_n in_o these_o word_n consider_v the_o ingeniousness_n of_o divers_a dumb-man_n excel_v that_o of_o many_o who_o be_v loud_o talkative_a name_n doubtless_o though_o connect_v be_v not_o reason_n but_o the_o register_n of_o our_o thought_n and_o reason_n and_o we_o proceed_v from_o mental_a to_o verbal_a discourse_n and_o when_o we_o have_v conceive_v a_o book_n we_o may_v express_v to_o the_o world_n the_o sense_n of_o it_o in_o what_o language_n we_o please_v if_o we_o be_v master_n of_o it_o the_o use_n of_o name_n cause_v rather_o a_o readiness_n in_o reason_v than_o beget_v reason_n and_o i_o think_v you_o somewhere_o in_o your_o leviathan_n 14._o do_v confess_v it_o so_o that_o i_o may_v say_v of_o name_n as_o you_o have_v do_v of_o symbol_n in_o geometry_n that_o themselves_o be_v not_o science_n less_o but_o serve_v only_a to_o make_v man_n go_v fast_o about_o in_o reason_v as_o great_a wind_n to_o a_o windmill_n well_o i_o have_v talk_v myself_o into_o a_o necessity_n of_o drink_v this_o untempt_n ale_n sir_n a_o good_a health_n to_o you_o mr._n hobbes_n your_o servant_n sir_n that_o liquor_n be_v not_o very_o proper_a for_o philosopher_n stud._n this_o very_a draught_n have_v put_v i_o in_o mind_n of_o a_o objection_n which_o make_v i_o extreme_o to_o dislike_v the_o doctrine_n of_o mechanic_n ratiocination_n this_o muddy_a ale_n it_o seem_v shall_v in_o some_o part_n of_o it_o circle_n with_o the_o blood_n and_o be_v sublime_v in_o the_o heart_n and_o send_v up_o in_o artery_n to_o the_o head_n and_o there_o shall_v perceive_v imagine_v remember_v and_o help_v i_o to_o philosophize_v and_o to_o make_v divine_a discourse_n and_o give_v i_o not_o only_o the_o warmth_n but_o the_o very_a essence_n of_o mental_a or_o verbal_a prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n nay_o that_o we_o may_v pass_v in_o due_a time_n to_o our_o six_o subject_n it_o shall_v also_o will_n and_o will_v which_o i_o find_v i_o may_v do_v and_o think_v strange_a that_o i_o can_v do_v so_o by_o the_o mere_a power_n of_o matter_n mr._n hobbes_n there_o 61_o be_v certain_a and_o necessary_a cause_n which_o make_v every_o man_n to_o will_v what_o he_o will_v stud._n herein_o i_o confess_v you_o disagree_v not_o from_o yourself_o though_o you_o seem_v at_o the_o wide_a distance_n from_o the_o truth_n and_o regius_n 478_o be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v blame_v for_o inconsistency_n who_o assâ—rting_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v a_o mode_n of_o the_o body_n do_v yet_o profess_v that_o the_o will_n be_v free_a and_o in_o his_o own_o phrase_n svi_fw-la juris_fw-la for_o yourself_o it_o be_v fit_a upon_o supposition_n of_o your_o belief_n of_o a_o corporeal_a universe_n that_o you_o shall_v maintain_v a_o necessity_n of_o willing_a for_o if_o every_o thing_n be_v matter_n each_o effect_n in_o the_o world_n be_v the_o mere_a result_n of_o motion_n in_o matter_n will_v be_v produce_v by_o fatal_a impulse_n and_o likewise_o that_o produce_v impulse_n will_v be_v necessitate_v by_o a_o former_a and_o so_o on_o in_o so_o long_a a_o order_n as_o can_v be_v pursue_v without_o the_o admittance_n
charity_n in_o forgive_a injury_n but_o it_o be_v not_o long_o before_o he_o learn_v virtue_n from_o necessity_n and_o choose_v rather_o than_o to_o want_v or_o seem_v to_o shun_v a_o equal_a companion_n to_o put_v himself_o into_o a_o more_o sociable_a humour_n after_o they_o have_v say_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o course_n among_o man_n in_o their_o salutation_n and_o make_v know_v to_o one_o another_o their_o name_n and_o quality_n and_o purpose_n in_o this_o journey_n they_o prepare_v themselves_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o bath_n while_o they_o be_v in_o it_o in_o those_o intervall_n wherein_o they_o abstain_v from_o swim_v and_o plunge_v themselves_o they_o discourse_v of_o many_o thing_n relate_v to_o the_o bath_n of_o the_o ancient_n and_o the_o origin_n of_o spring_n among_o other_o say_n and_o inquiry_n of_o mr._n hobbes_n he_o at_o last_o break_v forth_o as_o it_o may_v seem_v abrupt_o into_o this_o question_n what_o proportion_n be_v observe_v in_o the_o tuscan_a order_n the_o divine_a be_v well_o aware_a of_o those_o sudden_a leap_n which_o the_o mind_n often_o take_v from_o one_o thing_n to_o another_o return_v first_o this_o answer_n that_o the_o tuscan_a oâ—der_n with_o base_a and_o capital_a must_v be_v seven_o time_n its_o thickness_n and_o then_o reply_v also_o that_o he_o can_v follow_v the_o train_n of_o mr._n hobbes_n be_v imagination_n as_o far_o as_o that_o question_n have_v guess_v within_o himself_o at_o the_o first_o hint_n of_o they_o which_o proof_n of_o his_o sagacity_n be_v desire_v he_o apply_v himself_o in_o this_o sort_n to_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o undertake_n you_o first_o say_v he_o behold_v the_o bath_n in_o which_o we_o be_v you_o thence_o proceed_v in_o your_o thought_n to_o the_o bath_n of_o rome_n pagan_a among_o they_o you_o solicit_v the_o fountain_n of_o mars_n and_o thence_o your_o imagination_n pass_v to_o the_o rudeness_n of_o nero_n who_o as_o tacitus_n etc._n say_v defile_v those_o sacred_a water_n and_o violate_v the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o place_n by_o enter_v with_o his_o pollute_a body_n immediate_o after_o one_o of_o his_o riot_n have_v think_v of_o nero_n his_o barbarous_a act_n of_o set_v rome_n on_o fire_n come_v next_o into_o your_o mind_n and_o thence_o yâ—u_o be_v lead_v unto_o the_o motive_n which_o do_v in_o part_n induce_v he_o to_o burn_v the_o city_n that_o be_v to_o say_v because_o it_o seem_v unto_o he_o a_o rude_a heap_n of_o inartificial_a structure_n and_o may_v arise_v to_o a_o great_a glory_n out_o of_o its_o ash_n the_o thought_n of_o build_v occasion_v that_o of_o the_o fire_n order_n and_o so_o at_o length_n your_o fancy_n be_v guide_v to_o the_o tuscan_a mr._n hobbes_n acknowlege_v that_o he_o have_v conjecture_v aright_o and_o beg_v pardon_n for_o that_o slight_a question_n protest_v that_o while_o he_o â—â—sed_v it_o come_v from_o he_o unaware_o and_o be_v please_v with_o the_o quick_a range_v of_o his_o companion_n mind_n which_o he_o conceive_v to_o have_v be_v assist_v by_o the_o study_n of_o his_o own_o doctrine_n concern_v a_o chain_n of_o phantasm_n he_o increase_v in_o complacence_n when_o they_o have_v in_o this_o manner_n menfis_fw-la pass_v away_o a_o hour_n they_o step_v out_o of_o the_o bath_n and_o have_v dry_v and_o clothe_v themselves_o they_o sit_v down_o in_o expectation_n of_o such_o a_o supper_n as_o the_o place_n afford_v design_v to_o make_v a_o meal_n like_o the_o deipnosophistae_fw-la and_o rather_o to_o reason_n than_o to_o drink_v profound_o but_o in_o this_o innocent_a intention_n they_o be_v interrupt_v by_o the_o disturbance_n arise_v from_o a_o little_a quarrel_n in_o which_o some_o of_o the_o rude_a people_n in_o the_o house_n be_v for_o a_o short_a time_n engage_v at_o this_o mr._n hobbs_n seem_v much_o concern_v though_o he_o be_v at_o some_o distance_n from_o the_o person_n for_o a_o while_n he_o be_v not_o compose_v but_o relate_v it_o once_o or_o twice_o as_o to_o himself_o with_o a_o low_a and_o careful_a tone_n how_o sextuâ—_n rostius_n be_v murder_v after_o supper_n by_o the_o balneae_fw-la palatinae_fw-la of_o such_o general_a extent_n be_v that_o remark_n of_o cicero_n in_o relation_n to_o epicurus_n the_o atheist_n of_o who_o he_o observe_v that_o he_o of_o all_o man_n dread_v most_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o contemn_v death_n and_o the_o go_n but_o mr._n hobbes_n have_v in_o a_o short_a space_n recover_v himself_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o enter_v with_o the_o ecclesiastic_a into_o a_o serious_a discourse_n and_o to_o examine_v and_o account_v for_o such_o doctrine_n in_o his_o book_n as_o be_v usual_o accuse_v not_o only_o of_o error_n but_o likewise_o of_o downright_a irreligion_n and_o for_o the_o more_o convenient_a manage_n of_o this_o dialogue_n the_o divine_a address_v himself_o to_o mr._n hobbes_n to_o this_o purpose_n student_n before_o we_o engage_v in_o any_o dispute_n i_o be_o desirous_a to_o deal_v plain_o with_o you_o in_o reference_n to_o some_o thing_n which_o may_v obstruct_v our_o design_n and_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o interpret_v for_o contempt_n my_o ordinary_a liberty_n of_o conversation_n you_o have_v be_v represent_v to_o the_o world_n as_o a_o person_n 6._o very_o inconversible_a and_o as_o a_o imperious_a dictator_n of_o the_o principle_n of_o vice_n and_o impatient_a of_o all_o dispute_n and_o contradiction_n it_o have_v be_v say_v 〈…〉_z that_o you_o will_v be_v very_o angry_a with_o all_o man_n that_o will_v not_o present_o submit_v to_o your_o dictate_v and_o that_o for_o advance_v the_o reputation_n of_o your_o own_o skill_n you_o care_v not_o what_o unworthy_a reflection_n you_o cast_v on_o other_o mounseur_fw-fr descartes_n 〈…〉_z have_v write_v it_o to_o the_o confident_a mersennus_n and_o it_o be_v now_o publish_v to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o he_o esteem_v it_o the_o better_a for_o himself_o that_o he_o have_v not_o any_o commerce_n with_o you_o as_o also_o that_o if_o you_o be_v of_o such_o a_o humour_n as_o he_o imagine_v and_o have_v such_o design_n as_o he_o believe_v you_o have_v it_o will_v be_v impossible_a for_o he_o and_o you_o to_o have_v any_o communication_n without_o become_a enemy_n you_o be_v think_v in_o dispute_n to_o use_v the_o scripture_n with_o irreverence_n and_o you_o have_v 〈…〉_z in_o a_o scoff_n mention_v the_o focus_n of_o the_o parabola_fw-la of_o dives_fw-la and_o laâ—â—rus_n i_o be_o ashamed_a of_o that_o humour_n in_o descartes_n who_o hear_v that_o mounseur_fw-fr petit_n 〈…〉_z have_v a_o little_a relish_v his_o meditation_n say_v he_o wâ—s_v well_o please_v add_v also_o that_o there_o be_v joy_n in_o heaven_n for_o one_o sinner_n that_o convert_v if_o you_o appear_v morose_n wed_v to_o your_o opinion_n and_o profane_a if_o you_o endeavour_v to_o enervate_v any_o arâ—icle_n of_o moment_n in_o our_o faith_n you_o must_v expect_v either_o to_o be_v leave_v alone_o or_o to_o undergo_v the_o effect_n of_o a_o just_a indignation_n i_o applaud_v in_o other_o and_o i_o labour_n after_o a_o mastery_n of_o passion_n in_o myself_o but_o when_o the_o honour_n of_o religion_n be_v concern_v it_o be_v my_o judgement_n not_o to_o suppress_v my_o warrantable_a zeal_n and_o i_o can_v value_v such_o a_o moderate_a man_n as_o in_o a_o worthy_a cause_n be_v neither_o hot_a nor_o cold_a mr._n hobbes_n for_o the_o morosity_n 60._o and_o peevishness_n which_o i_o be_o charge_v with_o all_o that_o know_v i_o familiar_o know_v it_o be_v a_o false_a accusation_n but_o it_o be_v mean_v it_o may_v be_v only_o towards_o those_o that_o argue_v against_o my_o opinion_n but_o neither_o be_v that_o true_a when_o vain_a and_o ignorant_a person_n unknown_a to_o i_o before_o come_v to_o i_o on_o purpose_n to_o argue_v with_o i_o and_o to_o extort_v applause_n for_o their_o foolish_a opinion_n and_o miss_v of_o their_o end_n fall_v into_o undiscreet_a and_o uncivil_a expression_n and_o then_o appear_v not_o very_o well_o content_v it_o be_v not_o my_o morosity_n but_o their_o vanity_n that_o shall_v be_v blame_v for_o descartes_n he_o be_v move_v without_o cause_n be_v jealous_a novit_fw-la that_o i_o shall_v supplant_v he_o in_o his_o principle_n of_o philosophy_n that_o fear_n be_v groundless_a for_o i_o differ_v much_o from_o he_o especial_o in_o the_o explication_n of_o sense_n by_o motion_n let_v any_o man_n read_v descartes_n 38._o he_o shall_v find_v that_o he_o attribute_v no_o motion_n at_o all_o to_o the_o object_n of_o sense_n but_o a_o inclination_n to_o action_n which_o inclination_n no_o man_n can_v imagine_v what_o it_o mean_v touch_v the_o holy_a scripture_n i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o irreverence_n towards_o they_o that_o i_o have_v great_a regard_n 47._o to_o the_o article_n and_o decree_n of_o our_o church_n suspend_v my_o sentence_n where_o the_o church_n have_v not_o determine_v stâ—d_n it_o will_v be_v much_o
not_o look_v more_o like_a ostentation_n than_o necessary_a defence_n of_o truth_n some_o indeed_o of_o the_o ancient_n believe_v angel_n not_o to_o be_v whole_o incorporeal_a and_o st._n hierome_n place_v it_o among_o the_o error_n of_o origen_n that_o he_o ascribe_v to_o angel_n body_n of_o air_n they_o teach_v not_o that_o body_n be_v their_o sole_a essence_n but_o their_o clothing_n so_o that_o to_o speak_v after_o your_o own_o manner_n 6._o i_o observe_v a_o great_a part_n of_o those_o force_n by_o the_o strength_n of_o which_o you_o contend_v against_o incorporeal_a substance_n to_o look_v and_o march_v another_o way_n mr._n hobbes_n tertullian_n however_o be_v on_o my_o side_n for_o he_o 38._o in_o his_o treatise_n de_fw-fr carne_n christi_fw-la say_v plain_o omne_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la est_fw-la svi_fw-la generis_fw-la ni_fw-fr hill_n est_fw-fr incorporale_fw-mi â—isi_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v whatsoever_o be_v any_o thing_n be_v a_o body_n of_o its_o kind_n nothing_o be_v incorporeal_a but_o that_o which_o have_v no_o be_v there_o be_v many_o other_o place_n in_o he_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n for_o that_o doctrine_n serve_v his_o turn_n to_o confute_v the_o heresy_n of_o they_o that_o hold_v that_o christ_n have_v no_o body_n but_o be_v a_o ghost_n also_o of_o the_o soul_n he_o speak_v as_o of_o a_o invisible_a body_n you_o see_v what_o fellow_n in_o atheism_n you_o join_v with_o i_o stud._n some_o perhaps_o may_v here_o reply_v that_o tertullian_n be_v a_o single_a witness_n and_o that_o his_o testimony_n may_v appear_v invalid_a because_o he_o be_v condemn_v of_o old_a as_o a_o heretic_n for_o this_o very_a doctrine_n because_o he_o be_v a_o man_n of_o a_o various_a creed_n because_o he_o be_v better_o skill_v in_o the_o law_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n than_o in_o those_o of_o nature_n at_o least_o that_o he_o attend_v not_o to_o the_o phylosophick_n consequence_n of_o his_o opinion_n last_o because_o to_o avoid_v his_o adversary_n he_o run_v too_o nigh_o the_o other_o extreme_a and_o will_v have_v use_v different_a weapon_n in_o another_o controversy_n but_o it_o will_v be_v more_o agreeable_a to_o the_o reverence_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o that_o very_o ancient_a and_o learned_a writer_n to_o explain_v one_o place_n in_o he_o by_o another_o than_o rude_o to_o accuse_v he_o it_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v note_v that_o tertullian_n sometime_o call_v the_o passive_a matter_n by_o the_o name_n of_o body_n and_o sometime_o by_o body_n understand_v the_o mere_a substance_n be_v or_o essence_n of_o thing_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n be_v those_o word_n to_o be_v expound_v which_o we_o find_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la 268._o in_o quantum_fw-la omne_fw-la corporale_fw-la passibile_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la tantum_fw-la quod_fw-la passibile_fw-la est_fw-la corporale_fw-la est_fw-la now_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v that_o in_o this_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n corpus_n a_o body_n shall_v be_v attribute_v to_o the_o impassable_a nature_n of_o god_n by_o a_o man_n who_o devout_o adore_v his_o perfection_n for_o the_o second_o sense_n i_o will_v allege_v the_o explication_n which_o he_o himself_o have_v make_v in_o his_o book_n against_o hermogenes_n 246._o the_o philosopher_n and_o painter_n who_o be_v perhaps_o debauch_v by_o his_o very_a profession_n which_o chief_o employ_v his_o fancy_n affirm_v that_o matter_n be_v coeternal_a with_o god_n nisi_fw-la fallor_fw-la enim_fw-la omnis_fw-la res_fw-la aut_fw-la corporalis_fw-la aut_fw-la incorporalis_fw-la sit_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la concedam_fw-la interim_n aliquid_fw-la incorporale_fw-la de_fw-la substantiis_fw-la dunâ—axat_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsa_fw-la substantia_fw-la corpus_fw-la sit_fw-la rei_fw-la cujusque_fw-la and_o in_o the_o very_a word_n which_o usher_n in_o those_o now_o cite_v by_o you_o and_o crafty_o conceal_v it_o be_v apparent_a that_o by_o body_n tertullian_n mean_v only_a essence_n and_o not_o impenetrable_a matter_n the_o word_n be_v these_o quum_fw-la autem_fw-la sit_fw-la habeat_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la aliquid_fw-la per_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la habet_fw-la aliquid_fw-la per_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la erit_fw-la corpus_fw-la ejus_fw-la omne_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la est_fw-la svi_fw-la generis_fw-la mr._n hobbes_n of_o authority_n enough_o let_v we_o consult_v natural_a reason_n by_o attend_v to_o which_o i_o maintain_v 1â—8_n that_o incorporeal_a body_n be_v not_o a_o name_n but_o a_o absurdity_n of_o speech_n spirits_z 135_o supernatural_a common_o signifysie_a some_o substance_n without_o dimension_n which_o two_o word_n do_v flat_o contradict_v one_o another_o i_o say_v again_o 17._o a_o incorporeal_a body_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o a_o incorporeal_a substance_n be_v a_o name_n make_v up_o of_o two_o name_n which_o have_v signification_n contradictory_n and_o inconsistent_a for_o mutationibus_fw-la a_o substance_n be_v matter_n subject_n to_o accident_n and_o alteration_n if_o a_o man_n 19_o shall_v talk_v to_o i_o of_o a_o round_a quadrangle_n or_o accident_n of_o bread_n in_o cheese_n or_o immaterial_a substance_n i_o shall_v not_o say_v he_o be_v in_o a_o error_n but_o that_o his_o word_n be_v without_o meaning_n that_o be_v to_o say_v absurd_a though_o man_n may_v 53._o put_v together_o word_n of_o contradictory_n signification_n as_o spirit_n and_o incorporeal_a yet_o they_o can_v never_o have_v the_o imagination_n of_o any_o thing_n answer_v to_o they_o substance_n incorporeal_a 207._o be_v word_n which_o when_o they_o be_v join_v together_o destroy_v one_o another_o i_o say_v again_o 214._o that_o to_o man_n that_o understand_v the_o signification_n of_o these_o word_n substance_n and_o incorporeal_a as_o incorporeal_a be_v take_v not_o for_o subtle_a body_n but_o for_o not_o body_n they_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n stud._n this_o unbacked_a confidence_n in_o a_o argument_n of_o such_o moment_n provoke_v i_o to_o tell_v you_o that_o you_o be_v as_o notorious_a in_o repeat_v as_o those_o priest_n who_o man_n of_o your_o persuasion_n be_v wont_a to_o flout_v at_o whilst_o they_o shall_v rather_o have_v regard_n to_o the_o dulness_n of_o their_o common_a audience_n as_o also_o that_o if_o all_o thing_n twice_o say_v or_o elsewhere_o write_v by_o you_o be_v pick_v out_o your_o great_a leviathan_n will_v shrink_v to_o a_o little_a scallop_n but_o to_o reason_n with_o you_o in_o your_o own_o way_n i_o deny_v it_o once_o and_o again_o that_o the_o speech_n incorporeal_a substance_n either_o be_v or_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n there_o be_v a_o bare_a nay_o of_o as_o good_a strength_n as_o your_o naked_a affirmation_n you_o have_v somewhere_o promise_v â—â—_o to_o endeavour_v as_o much_o as_o you_o can_v to_o avoid_v too_o happy_a conclude_v but_o here_o you_o be_v so_o hasty_a as_o to_o leap_v over_o all_o proper_a premise_n into_o such_o a_o conclusion_n as_o be_v make_v only_o by_o a_o stiff_a and_o presumptuous_a will_n but_o i_o will_v be_v content_a to_o answer_v also_o that_o we_o forsake_v the_o usage_n of_o speech_n when_o we_o confound_v the_o name_n of_o body_n and_o substance_n the_o logician_n who_o be_v at_o variance_n in_o other_o matter_n consent_n in_o this_o that_o a_o substance_n be_v either_o material_a or_o immaterial_a if_o you_o resolve_v to_o fix_v a_o sense_n to_o the_o word_n substance_n which_o hitherto_o all_o custom_n which_o be_v thâ—_n interpreter_n of_o speech_n have_v determine_v against_o you_o usurp_v too_o great_a authority_n m._n pomponius_n marcellus_n fear_v not_o to_o tell_v tiberius_n the_o emperor_n who_o have_v use_v a_o word_n not_o true_o latin_a in_o one_o of_o his_o edict_n that_o â—â—â—ding_v it_o be_v in_o his_o power_n to_o make_v man_n but_o not_o to_o make_v word_n free_a of_o the_o city_n mr._n hobbes_n do_v you_o understand_v 33._o the_o connexion_n of_o substance_n and_o incorporeal_a if_o you_o do_v explain_v it_o in_o english_a for_o the_o word_n be_v latin_a it_o be_v something_o you_o will_v say_v that_o be_v without_o body_n stand_v under_o stand_v under_o what_o will_v you_o say_v under_o accident_n almost_o all_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n will_v be_v against_o you_o and_o than_o you_o be_v a_o atheist_n stud._n by_o avoid_v the_o word_n substance_n by_o which_o in_o despite_n of_o general_a use_n you_o will_v mean_v body_n your_o cavil_n vanish_v for_o if_o we_o shall_v use_v the_o term_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v or_o essence_n affirm_v that_o god_n be_v a_o be_v which_o neither_o be_v nor_o have_v a_o body_n you_o will_v be_v of_o a_o very_a quick_a and_o sagacious_a nose_n to_o smell_v out_o a_o contradiction_n in_o word_n so_o put_v together_o for_o to_o be_v and_o to_o be_v without_o body_n be_v not_o term_n which_o destroy_v each_o other_o it_o may_v then_o be_v infer_v that_o all_o moral_a virtue_n and_o all_o physical_a notion_n be_v name_n and_o nothing_o else_o but_o i_o will_v admit_v of_o
be_v only_o a_o dissolution_n of_o the_o contexture_n of_o the_o part_n and_o the_o motion_n convey_v to_o other_o portion_n of_o neighbour_a matter_n why_o also_o do_v you_o vary_v from_o the_o translation_n of_o the_o hebrew_n copy_n in_o chap._n 3._o v._n 21._o for_o instead_o of_o who_o know_v the_o spirit_n of_o man_n that_o be_v ascend_v and_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o beast_n that_o go_v downward_o to_o the_o earth_n you_o have_v thus_o render_v the_o word_n who_o know_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n go_v upward_o for_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o this_o say_n who_o know_v that_o mr._n hobbes_n be_v a_o mathematician_n and_o this_o who_o know_v mr._n hobbes_n who_o be_v a_o mathematician_n the_o former_a disposition_n of_o solomon_n word_n suppose_v a_o spirit_n and_o the_o ascent_n of_o it_o and_o withal_o our_o ignorance_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o soul_n the_o latter_a leave_v it_o doubtful_a whether_o the_o spirit_n ascend_v or_o not_o it_o be_v well_o though_o i_o believe_v you_o know_v it_o not_o yourself_o that_o the_o seventy_o interpreter_n etc._n be_v a_o little_a on_o your_o side_n mr._n hobbes_n but_o what_o be_v on_o your_o part_n to_o be_v say_v 344._o to_o those_o word_n of_o solomon_n in_o chap._n 4._o ver_fw-la 3._o of_o ecclesiastes_n better_a be_v he_o that_o have_v not_o yet_o be_v then_o both_o they_o that_o be_v than_o they_o that_o live_v or_o have_v live_v which_o if_o the_o soul_n of_o all_o they_o that_o have_v live_v be_v immortal_a be_v a_o hard_a say_n for_o then_o to_o have_v a_o immortal_a soul_n be_v worse_o than_o to_o have_v no_o soul_n at_o all_o stud._n to_o this_o the_o easy_a truth_n be_v to_o be_v reply_v that_o the_o wise_a man_n prefer_v a_o condition_n of_o not_o be_v if_o we_o suppose_v he_o speak_v in_o his_o own_o person_n before_o a_o life_n of_o misery_n and_o doubtless_o it_o be_v better_a to_o have_v no_o soul_n then_o to_o have_v a_o soul_n immortal_a together_o with_o immortal_a grief_n and_o the_o say_n be_v common_a among_o diviâ—es_n that_o it_o have_v be_v better_a for_o dives_n to_o have_v have_v no_o tongue_n then_o to_o have_v be_v possess_v of_o it_o mere_o as_o a_o subject_n for_o the_o fury_n of_o the_o infernal_a flame_n to_o prey_n upon_o and_o i_o think_v also_o it_o be_v the_o natural_a sense_n of_o mankind_n wherefore_o though_o job_n be_v a_o man_n of_o great_a fortitude_n of_o spirit_n and_o one_o who_o fear_v by_o impatience_n to_o offend_v god_n yet_o when_o his_o calamity_n as_o so_o many_o wave_n in_o thick_a succession_n be_v ready_a to_o overwhelm_a he_o he_o begin_v to_o curse_v the_o day_n of_o his_o nativity_n mr._n hobbes_n there_o be_v yet_o another_o place_n in_o the_o book_n of_o ecclesiastes_n which_o confirm_v my_o opinion_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a it_o be_v say_v 344._o in_o chap._n 9_o ver_fw-la 5._o that_o the_o live_a know_v they_o shall_v die_v but_o the_o dead_a know_v not_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v natural_o and_o before_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n stud._n for_o answer_v to_o this_o citation_n i_o â—efeâ—_n you_o to_o diodati_n who_o note_n you_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o despise_v see_v you_o have_v submit_v the_o declaration_n of_o your_o judgement_n â—38_n to_o the_o annotation_n of_o the_o assembly_n who_o please_v to_o transcribe_v so_o very_a many_o place_n out_o of_o the_o aforesaid_a author_n observe_v therefore_o the_o context_n and_o his_o interpretation_n which_o i_o may_v represent_v to_o you_o in_o this_o paraphrase_n ver._n 3._o by_o reason_n of_o this_o indifferency_n of_o event_n mention_v by_o solomon_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o chapter_n worldly_a man_n dally_v with_o till_o they_o die_v iâ—_n their_o sin_n ver._n 4._o for_o whilst_o life_n do_v last_o the_o gate_n of_o hope_n and_o repentance_n be_v open_a though_o man_n make_v not_o use_v of_o this_o opportunity_n in_o order_n to_o their_o salvation_n for_o a_o live_a dog_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o great_a sinner_n alive_a be_v happy_a whilst_o god_n grant_v to_o he_o life_n and_o opportunity_n of_o conversion_n then_o a_o lesser_a sinner_n compare_v to_o a_o lion_n which_o be_v a_o more_o noble_a and_o not_o so_o unclean_a a_o beast_n as_o a_o dog_n who_o die_v in_o his_o impenitency_n and_o so_o be_v pass_v all_o remedy_n ver._n 5._o for_o the_o live_n know_v they_o shall_v die_v and_o through_o the_o fear_n of_o death_n may_v be_v induce_v to_o repentance_n whilst_o there_o be_v space_n for_o it_o but_o the_o dead_a know_v not_o any_o thing_n not_o in_o this_o sense_n that_o their_o soul_n do_v loose_v all_o knowledge_n conscience_n or_o remembrance_n but_o in_o this_o because_o it_o avail_v they_o nothing_o to_o salvation_n and_o they_o understand_v not_o now_o the_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o their_o peace_n for_o they_o be_v by_o the_o absence_n of_o opportunity_n quite_o hide_v from_o their_o eye_n neither_o have_v they_o any_o more_o a_o reward_n set_v down_o for_o virtue_n whilst_o a_o man_n live_v in_o this_o world_n which_o be_v the_o place_n appoint_v for_o we_o to_o labour_n and_o run_v our_o race_n in_o for_o the_o memory_n of_o they_o be_v forget_v god_n have_v for_o ever_o cast_v they_o off_o according_a to_o that_o of_o david_n 88.5_o like_o the_o slay_v that_o lie_n in_o the_o grave_n who_o thou_o remember_v no_o more_o and_o they_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o thy_o hand_n and_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o place_n be_v confirm_v by_o the_o ten_o verse_n where_o solomon_n press_v man_n to_o a_o speedy_a exercise_n of_o religion_n in_o these_o word_n whatsoever_o thy_o hand_n find_v to_o do_v do_v it_o with_o thy_o might_n for_o there_o be_v no_o work_n nor_o device_n nor_o knowledge_n nor_o wisdom_n in_o the_o grave_n whither_o thou_o go_v mr._n hobbes_n what_o answer_n have_v you_o to_o the_o word_n of_o job_n 241._o chap._n 14._o ver_fw-la 7._o there_o be_v hope_n of_o a_o tree_n if_o it_o be_v cast_v down_o though_o the_o root_n thereof_o wax_v old_a and_o the_o stock_n thereof_o die_v in_o the_o ground_n yet_o when_o it_o scent_v the_o water_n it_o will_v bud_v and_o bring_v forth_o bough_n like_o a_o plant_n but_o man_n die_v and_o waste_v away_o yea_o man_n give_v up_o the_o ghost_n and_o where_o be_v he_o and_o ver_fw-la 12._o man_n lie_v down_o &_o rise_v not_o till_o the_o heaven_n be_v no_o more_o but_o when_o be_v it_o that_o the_o heaven_n shall_v be_v no_o more_o s._n peter_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v at_o the_o general_a resurrection_n stud._n it_o have_v be_v think_v by_o some_o a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o this_o place_n to_o understand_v it_o of_o entire_a man_n as_o he_o consist_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n see_v man_n be_v not_o man_n arise_v not_o '_o though_o the_o soul_n exi_v and_o ascend_v before_o the_o consummate_a estate_n of_o both_o in_o the_o great_a day_n of_o the_o messiah_n i_o know_v also_o that_o the_o jew_n â—,10_n consider_v job_n as_o a_o gentile_a who_o have_v no_o assurance_n of_o a_o future_a state_n and_o that_o he_o speak_v in_o the_o seven_o chapter_n as_o much_o against_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n as_o the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul._n as_o the_o cloud_n say_v job_n be_v consume_v and_o vanish_v away_o so_o he_o that_o go_v down_o to_o the_o grave_n shall_v come_v up_o no_o more_o and_o there_o be_v many_o who_o expound_v the_o letter_n in_o the_o 19_o chap._n and_o 25_o 26._o verse_n of_o the_o restitution_n of_o job_n body_n torment_v with_o worm_n to_o soundness_n of_o health_n and_o of_o the_o blessing_n descend_v upon_o he_o in_o his_o latter_a day_n even_o to_o the_o eclipse_v the_o glory_n of_o his_o first_o posterity_n mr._n hobbes_n what_o need_n be_v there_o of_o answer_n upon_o answer_n in_o the_o present_a case_n for_o this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o natural_a immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o you_o so_o eager_o cont_v for_o be_v 339._o unnecessary_a to_o the_o christian_a faith_n for_o suppose_v that_o when_o a_o man_n die_v there_o remain_v nothing_o of_o he_o but_o his_o carcase_n can_v god_n that_o raise_v inanimate_v dust_n and_o clay_n into_o a_o live_a creature_n by_o his_o word_n as_o easy_o raise_v a_o dead_a carcase_n to_o life_n again_o and_o continue_v he_o alive_a for_o ever_o or_o make_v he_o die_v again_o by_o another_o word_n stud._n if_o you_o attempt_v thus_o to_o explain_v the_o resurrection_n of_o entire_a man_n you_o will_v be_v press_v with_o such_o a_o weighty_a inconvenience_n as_o can_v by_o the_o utmost_a strength_n of_o your_o wit_n be_v ever_o sustain_v for_o if_o man_n be_v not_o raise_v up_o by_o a_o reunion_n of_o his_o immaterial_a soul_n to_o the_o main_a stamina_n of_o such_o a_o
name_v be_v on_o the_o other_o side_n of_o jordan_n on_o the_o utmost_a part_n of_o the_o holy_a land_n eastward_o mr._n hobbes_n my_o opinion_n seem_v again_o to_o be_v confirm_v 239._o by_o st._n john_n rev._n 21.2_o where_o he_o say_v i_o john_n see_v the_o holy_a city_n new_a jerusalem_n come_v down_o from_o god_n out_o of_o heaven_n prepare_v as_o a_o bride_n adorn_v for_o her_o husband_n and_o again_o vers_fw-la 10._o to_o the_o same_o effect_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v the_o new_a jerusalem_n the_o paradise_n of_o god_n at_o the_o come_n again_o of_o christ_n shall_v come_v down_o to_o god_n people_n from_o heaven_n and_o not_o they_o go_v up_o to_o it_o from_o earth_n stud._n heaven_n be_v the_o jerusalem_n above_o which_o the_o patriarch_n seek_v 16._o in_o contra-distinction_n to_o canaan_n below_o of_o this_o jerusalem_n above_o st._n paul_n say_v 26._o that_o it_o be_v free_a that_o be_v type_v by_o sarah_n the_o freewoman_n and_o can_v but_o be_v free_a from_o enemy_n see_v god_n be_v the_o king_n of_o it_o and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o we_o all_o that_o be_v the_o gospel_n come_v thence_o immediate_o by_o christ_n and_o not_o as_o the_o law_n by_o the_o mediation_n of_o a_o angel_n our_o original_n as_o christian_n we_o owe_v to_o heaven_n and_o thence_o be_v we_o nourish_v and_o preserve_v by_o the_o divine_a grace_n and_o to_o the_o revelation_n of_o this_o jerusalem_n christian_n attain_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v a_o dispensation_n of_o more_o clearness_n and_o comfort_n then_o the_o law_n 258._o and_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n descend_v be_v a_o type_n of_o heaven_n in_o a_o glorious_a estate_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n on_o earth_n the_o commencement_n of_o which_o have_v much_o puzzle_v those_o who_o have_v spend_v their_o study_n about_o the_o great_a millenium_fw-la but_o this_o new_a jerusalem_n descend_v be_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v the_o estate_n of_o just_a man_n make_v perfect_a because_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o 21.24_o nation_n of_o they_o which_o be_v save_v shall_v walk_v in_o the_o light_n of_o it_o and_o also_o that_o after_o the_o thousand_o year_n wherein_o the_o martyr_n be_v think_v to_o reign_v with_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n below_o the_o devil_n 9_o shall_v be_v loose_v and_o go_v out_o to_o deceive_v the_o nation_n and_o with_o they_o as_o enemy_n in_o battle_n array_n to_o encompass_v the_o holy_a city_n which_o thing_n be_v improper_o ascribe_v to_o a_o state_n of_o entire_a joy_n in_o the_o life_n eternal_a of_o the_o save_v in_o the_o jerusalem_n above_o if_o then_o as_o mr._n mede_n affirm_v 534.5_o and_o attempt_v to_o prove_v the_o new_a jerusalem_n syncronize_v with_o the_o seven_o trumpet_n or_o interval_n from_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o beast_n and_o suppose_v afterward_o a_o lose_n of_o satan_n it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o high_a heaven_n or_o the_o consummate_a happiness_n of_o man_n mr._n hobbes_n there_o be_v behind_o divers_a place_n in_o the_o prophet_n in_o order_n to_o the_o evade_n of_o who_o force_n you_o will_v much_o perplex_v your_o understanding_n and_o when_o i_o have_v once_o produce_v they_o i_o shall_v then_o have_v do_v draw_v at_o my_o end_n of_o this_o see_v of_o disputation_n how_o good_a soever_o 38._o the_o reason_n before_o allege_v may_v bâ—_n i_o will_v not_o trust_v to_o it_o without_o very_o evident_a place_n of_o scripture_n the_o state_n of_o salvation_n be_v describe_v at_o large_a isaiah_n 33._o ver_n 20_o 21_o 22_o 23_o 24._o look_v upon_o zion_n the_o city_n of_o our_o solemnity_n thy_o eye_n shall_v see_v jerusalem_n a_o quiet_a habitation_n a_o tabernacle_n that_o shall_v not_o be_v take_v down_o not_o one_o of_o the_o stake_n thereof_o shall_v ever_o be_v remove_v neither_o shall_v any_o of_o the_o cord_n thereof_o be_v break_v but_o there_o the_o glorious_a lord_n will_v be_v unto_o we_o a_o place_n of_o broad_a river_n and_o stream_n wherein_o shall_v go_v no_o galley_n with_o oar_n neither_o shall_v gallant_a ship_n pass_v thereby_o for_o the_o lord_n be_v our_o judge_n the_o lord_n be_v our_o lawgiver_n the_o lord_n be_v our_o king_n he_o will_v save_v we_o thy_o tackle_n be_v loose_v they_o can_v not_o well_o strengthen_v their_o maâ—t_n they_o can_v not_o spread_v the_o sail_n then_o be_v the_o prey_n of_o a_o great_a spoil_n divide_v the_o lame_a take_v the_o prey_n and_o the_o inhabitant_n shall_v not_o say_v i_o be_o sick_a the_o people_n that_o shall_v dwell_v therein_o shall_v be_v forgive_v their_o iniquity_n in_o which_o word_n we_o have_v the_o place_n from_o whence_o salvation_n be_v to_o proceed_v jerusalem_n a_o 〈…〉_z the_o eternity_n of_o it_o a_o tabernacle_n that_o 〈…〉_z be_v take_v down_o etc._n etc._n the_o saviour_n of_o it_o the_o lord_n their_o judge_n their_o lawgiver_n their_o king_n he_o will_v save_v we_o the_o salvation_n the_o lord_n shall_v be_v to_o they_o as_o a_o broad_a mote_n of_o swift_a water_n etc._n etc._n the_o condition_n of_o their_o enemy_n their_o tackle_n be_v loose_a their_o mast_n weak_a the_o lame_a shall_v take_v the_o spoil_n of_o they_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o save_v the_o inhabitant_n shall_v not_o say_v i_o be_o sick_a and_o last_o all_o this_o comprehend_v in_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n the_o people_n that_o dwell_v therein_o shall_v be_v forgive_v their_o iniquity_n by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o salvation_n as_o i_o say_v shall_v be_v on_o earth_n then_o when_o god_n shall_v reign_v at_o the_o come_n again_o of_o christ_n in_o jerusalem_n and_o from_o jerusalem_n shall_v proceed_v the_o salvation_n of_o the_o gentile_n that_o shall_v be_v receive_v into_o god_n kingdom_n as_o be_v also_o more_o express_o declare_v by_o the_o same_o prophet_n chap._n 65.20_o 21._o and_o they_o that_o be_v the_o gentile_n who_o have_v any_o jew_n in_o bondage_n shall_v bring_v all_o your_o brethren_n for_o a_o offering_n to_o the_o lord_n out_o of_o all_o nation_n upon_o horse_n and_o in_o charret_n and_o in_o litter_n and_o upon_o mule_n and_o upon_o swift_a beast_n to_o my_o holy_a mountain_n jerusalem_n say_v the_o lord_n as_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n bring_v a_o offering_n in_o a_o clean_a vessel_n into_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n &_o i_o will_v also_o take_v of_o they_o for_o priest_n and_o for_o levite_n say_v the_o lord_n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o chief_a seat_n of_o god_n kingdom_n which_o be_v the_o place_n from_o whence_o the_o salvation_n of_o we_o that_o be_v gentile_n shall_v proceed_v shall_v be_v jerusalem_n and_o the_o same_o be_v also_o confirm_v by_o our_o saviour_n in_o his_o discourse_n with_o the_o woman_n of_o samaria_n concern_v the_o place_n of_o god_n worship_n to_o who_o he_o say_v joh._n 4.22_o that_o the_o samaritan_n worship_v they_o know_v not_o what_o but_o the_o jew_n worship_n what_o they_o know_v for_o salvation_n be_v of_o the_o jew_n ex_fw-la judaeis_n that_o be_v begin_v at_o the_o jew_n as_o if_o he_o â—hould_v say_v you_o worship_v god_n but_o know_v not_o by_o who_o he_o will_v save_v you_o as_o we_o do_v that_o know_v it_o shall_v be_v by_o one_o of_o the_o tribe_n of_o judah_n a_o jew_n not_o a_o samaritan_n and_o therefore_o also_o the_o woman_n not_o impertinent_o answer_v he_o again_o we_o know_v the_o messiah_n shall_v come_v so_o that_o which_o our_o saviour_n faith_n salvation_n be_v from_o the_o jew_n be_v the_o same_o that_o s._n paul_n say_v rom._n 1.16_o 17._o the_o â—â—spel_n be_v the_o power_n of_o god_n to_o salvation_n to_o every_o one_o that_o believe_v to_o the_o jew_n first_o â—nd_n also_o to_o the_o greek_a for_o therein_o be_v the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n reveal_v from_o faith_n to_o fâ—ith_n from_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o jâ—w_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o gentile_a in_o the_o like_a sense_n the_o prophet_n joel_n describe_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n chap._n 2.30_o 31._o that_o god_n will_v show_v wonder_n in_o heaven_n and_o in_o earth_n blood_n and_o fire_n and_o pillar_n of_o sâ—â—ak_n the_o sun_n shall_v be_v turn_v into_o darkness_n and_o the_o moon_n into_o blood_n before_o the_o great_a and_o terrible_a day_n of_o the_o lord_n come_v he_o add_v ver_fw-la 32._o and_o it_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o whosoever_o shall_v call_v upon_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n shall_v be_v save_v for_o iâ—_n mount_v zion_n and_o in_o jerusalem_n shall_v be_v salvation_n and_o obadiah_n ver_fw-la 17._o say_v the_o same_o upon_o mount_n zion_n shall_v be_v deliverance_n and_o there_o shall_v be_v holiness_n and_o thâ—_n hâ—use_v of_o jacob_n shall_v possess_v their_o possession_n that_o be_v the_o possâ—ssions_n oâ—_n the_o heathen_a which_o possession_n he_o express_v most_o particular_o in_o the_o follow_a verse_n