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A00916 An adioynder to the supplement of Father Robert Persons his discussion of M. Doctor Barlowes ansvvere &c. Contayning a discouery, and confutation of very many foule absurdityes, falsities, and lyes in M. D. Andrewes his Latin booke intituled, Responsio ad apologiam Cardinalis Bellarmini &c. An answere to the apology of Card. Bellarmine. Written by F.T. ... Also an appendix touching a register alleaged by M. Franc. Mason for the lawfull ordayning of Protestant bishops in Q. Elizabeths raigne. Fitzherbert, Thomas, 1552-1640. 1613 (1613) STC 11022; ESTC S102269 348,102 542

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who_o do_v contemn_v the_o temple_n and_o monument_n of_o martyr_n and_o the_o assembly_n and_o sacred_a oblation_n which_o be_v make_v there_o yet_o because_o this_o heretic_n do_v not_o direct_o impugn_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n the_o same_o be_v not_o direct_o and_o express_o confirm_v or_o mention_v in_o this_o canon_n 27._o and_o although_o about_o this_o time_n also_o i_o mean_v in_o the_o 4._o age_n vigilantius_n deny_v vigilant_a that_o saint_n pray_v for_o we_o whereupon_o it_o may_v indeed_o be_v infer_v that_o he_o consequent_o hold_v the_o invocation_n of_o they_o to_o be_v superfluous_a yet_o for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o live_v but_o only_o in_o a_o corner_n of_o france_n hierome_n and_o be_v present_o confute_v and_o repress_v by_o s._n hierome_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o the_o church_n be_v no_o further_o trouble_v with_o his_o error_n therefore_o there_o
augustine_n be_v these_o ad_fw-la quod_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n at_o which_o sacrifice_n s._n augustine_n mean_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o martyr_n be_v name_v in_o their_o place_n and_o order_n as_o the_o man_n of_o god_n who_o have_v overcome_v the_o world_n in_o the_o confession_n of_o he_o but_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n which_o sacrifice_v thus_o far_o m._n andrews_n cite_v s._n augutine_v and_o then_o add_v non_fw-la invocantur_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n augustine_n have_v these_o very_a word_n the_o martyr_n be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o why_o less_o by_o the_o priest_n then_o by_o the_o people_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o lawful_a in_o sacrifice_n why_o be_v it_o lawful_a out_o of_o sacrifice_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n demand_n why_o may_v it_o be_v do_v at_o matin_n and_o be_v there_o any_o force_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n or_o altar_n to_o make_v that_o unlawful_a which_o be_v otherwise_o lawful_a thus_o m._n andrews_n discourse_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v not_o we_o but_o whole_o his_o in_o this_o controversy_n 54._o thereof_o let_v we_o see_v how_o well_o he_o have_v perform_v it_o and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o insist_v most_o upon_o the_o word_n invocantur_fw-la because_o s._n augustine_n say_v alone_a that_o the_o martyr_n be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n it_o be_v special_o to_o be_v consider_v in_o what_o sense_n s._n augustine_n use_v that_o word_n in_o this_o place_n for_o see_v that_o it_o be_v apply_v sometime_o to_o god_n alone_o and_o sometime_o to_o creature_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o as_o well_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n himself_o it_o be_v evident_a seq_n that_o if_o it_o be_v use_v here_o in_o the_o former_a sense_n only_o i_o mean_v for_o a_o invocation_n of_o god_n include_v a_o divine_a honour_n it_o do_v no_o way_n constradict_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o our_o sense_n signify_v only_o a_o request_n of_o their_o help_n by_o their_o prayer_n which_o as_o i_o have_v show_v m._n andrews_n himself_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o proper_a signification_n of_o invocare_fw-la ibid._n it_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v understand_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o this_o place_n use_v it_o only_o for_o a_o invocation_n by_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o saint_n or_o any_o pure_a creature_n 55._o this_o will_v be_v most_o manifest_a declare_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o text_n and_o the_o drift_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o meaning_n to_o show_v that_o the_o honour_n which_o we_o christian_n do_v to_o martyr_n redound_v special_o to_o god_n signify_v that_o albeit_o god_n do_v work_v great_a miracle_n by_o they_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v they_o for_o god_n neither_o buyld_v temple_n to_o they_o as_o to_o god_n nor_o erect_v altar_n to_o sacrifice_n to_o they_o sed_fw-la uni_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la &_o nostro_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la immolamus_fw-la but_o we_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o one_o god_n who_o be_v as_o well_o the_o god_n of_o the_o martyr_n as_o we_o at_o which_o sacrifice_n say_v he_o they_o be_v name_v as_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n non_fw-la tamen_fw-la à_fw-la sacerdote_fw-la qui_fw-la sacrificat_fw-la invocantur_fw-la yet_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n which_o sacrifice_v and_o then_o to_o show_v evident_o that_o he_o include_v the_o oblation_n of_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o invocation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v he_o add_v present_o deo_fw-la quip_n non_fw-la ipsis_fw-la sacrificat_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o he_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o they_o though_o he_o sacrifice_v in_o the_o honour_n of_o they_o sacrifice_n because_o he_o be_v god_n priest_n and_o not_o they_o thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n immediate_o after_o the_o word_n invocantur_fw-la 56._o whereby_o he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o invocation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v be_v proper_a to_o priestly_a function_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v exhibit_v by_o the_o priest_n to_o god_n only_o whole_a priest_n he_o be_v and_o not_o to_o the_o martyr_n as_o who_o will_v say_v because_o the_o priest_n be_v god_n priest_n and_o aught_o to_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n alone_o therefore_o he_o only_o name_v the_o martyr_n in_o his_o sacrifice_n and_o do_v not_o invocate_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o do_v not_o invocate_v they_o with_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o office_n or_o function_n of_o a_o priest_n andrews_n for_o otherwise_o i_o mean_v if_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o take_v invocation_n in_o this_o place_n for_o a_o priestly_a or_o sacrificall_a action_n his_o reason_n why_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o invocate_v the_o martyr_n to_o wit_n because_o he_o be_v the_o priest_n of_o god_n and_o sacrifice_v to_o he_o alone_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n which_o no_o doubt_v m._n andrews_n see_v well_o enough_o and_o therefore_o he_o end_v his_o citation_n at_o invocantur_fw-la without_o add_v that_o which_o immediate_o follow_v and_o show_v what_o s._n augustine_n mean_v there_o by_o invocation_n 57_o now_o than_o what_o wonder_v it_o be_v that_o s._n augustine_n say_v that_o martyr_n be_v not_o to_o be_v invocate_v in_o this_o manner_n that_o be_v to_o say_v with_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o do_v any_o man_n doubt_n of_o it_o or_o do_v it_o any_o way_n impugn_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n by_o prayer_n how_o idle_a then_o be_v m._n andrews_n his_o question_n to_o wit_n why_o the_o priest_n may_v not_o invocate_v martyr_n as_o well_o as_o the_o people_n may_v and_o why_o not_o at_o mass_n as_o well_o as_o at_o matin_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o force_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n or_o altar_n place_n to_o make_v that_o unlawful_a which_o otherwise_o be_v lawful_a whereby_o he_o seem_v to_o confound_v the_o priest_n with_o the_o people_n mass_n with_o matin_n and_o the_o altar_n with_o every_o other_o place_n suppose_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v prohibit_v to_o the_o priest_n be_v also_o forbid_a to_o the_o people_n and_o what_o can_v be_v do_v at_o mass_n be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v at_o matin_n and_o final_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v unlawful_a at_o the_o altar_n be_v lawful_a no_o where_o else_o which_o be_v most_o absurd_a see_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v lawful_a or_o unlawful_a according_a to_o the_o different_a state_n and_o quality_n of_o person_n matter_n time_n and_o place_n 58._o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o to_o invocate_v god_n with_o sacrifice_n be_v the_o proper_a function_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o not_o of_o the_o people_n and_o that_o the_o same_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n and_o not_o at_o matin_n and_o no_o where_o else_o but_o at_o the_o altar_n yea_o and_o that_o the_o priest_n may_v high_o offend_v god_n in_o his_o sacrifice_n that_o be_v to_o say_v at_o mass_n or_o at_o the_o altar_n when_o the_o people_n offend_v no_o way_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o to_o satisfy_v m._n andrews_n his_o three_o demand_n according_a to_o s._n augustine_n meaning_n in_o this_o place_n he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o priest_n may_v invocate_v god_n with_o sacrifice_n meaning_n and_o the_o people_n can_v that_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n and_o not_o at_o matin_n and_o that_o such_o invocation_n be_v not_o lawful_o do_v any_o where_o but_o at_o the_o altar_n and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o due_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o can_v never_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n either_o by_o people_n or_o priest_n at_o matin_n or_o mass_n at_o the_o altar_n or_o yet_o elsewhere_o and_o so_o shall_v he_o understand_v that_o the_o place_n which_o he_o allege_v make_v nothing_o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o that_o his_o vain_a demand_n have_v serve_v to_o no_o other_o purpose_n but_o to_o show_v his_o ignorance_n and_o folly_n 59_o this_o will_v yet_o further_o appear_v by_o his_o conclusion_n wherein_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o expound_v the_o other_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n which_o you_o have_v hear_v cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n to_o wit_n iniuria_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v injury_n to_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n to_o who_o prayer_n we_o ought_v to_o be_v recommend_v whereto_o m._n andrews_n have_v oppose_v cardinal_n and_o vain_o urge_v this_o other_o place_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v answer_v in_o conclusion_n thus_o quare_fw-la apud_fw-la illum_fw-la etc._n etc._n wherefore_o that_o we_o shall_v be_v recomend_v to_o the_o prayer_n of_o martyr_n be_v not_o to_o invocate_v they_o but_o to_o wish_v to_o be_v recommend_v to_o the_o intercession_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o of_o all_o his_o mystical_a body_n and_o we_o do_v
devotion_n of_o the_o people_n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n through_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o martyr_n or_o else_o whether_o it_o be_v do_v both_o way_n this_o he_o say_v he_o dare_v not_o define_v confess_v and_o teach_v evident_o as_o much_o as_o we_o require_v in_o this_o matter_n to_o wit_n that_o devout_a people_n be_v certain_o help_v by_o the_o martyr_n neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v wonder_v that_o s._n augustine_n will_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o determine_v how_o the_o same_o be_v wrought_v say_v that_o even_o in_o ordinary_a and_o natural_a thing_n the_o effect_n be_v evident_a and_o certain_a and_o yet_o the_o cause_n be_v many_o time_n either_o uncertayn_a or_o else_o whole_o unknown_a which_o be_v to_o be_v grant_v much_o more_o in_o supernatural_a and_o miraculous_a event_n 12.13.14.15.16_o as_o i_o have_v show_v evident_o in_o the_o last_o chapter_n where_o i_o have_v confute_v such_o another_o ridiculous_a argument_n of_o he_o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n 44._o and_o albeit_o he_o have_v resolve_v that_o the_o saint_n themselves_o do_v not_o appear_v or_o assist_v at_o their_o tomb_n but_o angel_n in_o their_o shape_n and_o likeness_n yet_o it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v but_o that_o apparition_n be_v they_o be_v make_v by_o god_n express_a ordinance_n for_o their_o merit_n in_o their_o name_n and_o likeness_n and_o for_o the_o benefit_n of_o those_o that_o expect_v and_o crave_v their_o help_n especial_o see_v it_o be_v usual_o say_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o god_n speak_v and_o appear_v to_o 18._o abraham_n and_o moses_n 3._o when_o nevertheless_o it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n and_o not_o in_o any_o shape_n that_o can_v represent_v he_o and_o therefore_o s._n augustin●_n have_v great_a reason_n to_o say_v that_o s._n felix_n appear_v and_o that_o the_o martyr_n per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la vivorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la intersunt_fw-la be_v by_o the_o divine_a power_n present_a at_o the_o do_n or_o 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author_n partly_o in_o wrest_v &_o pervert_v their_o sense_n &_o partly_o in_o the_o corrupt_a &_o fraudulent_a citation_n of_o they_o in_o which_o kind_n you_o have_v already_o see_v m._n barlow_v talon_n whereby_o you_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o judge_v whether_o of_o they_o excel_v therein_o 45._o first_o then_o i_o will_v begin_v with_o his_o abuse_n of_o the_o cardinal_n who_o to_o show_v that_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n do_v not_o entire_o hold_v the_o creed_n of_o athanasius_n tertium_fw-la propose_v the_o article_n concern_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n when_o every_o one_o say_v athanasius_n be_v to_o render_v account_n de_fw-la factis_fw-la proprijs_fw-la of_o his_o own_o act_n and_o those_o which_o have_v do_v well_o shall_v go_v to_o life_n everlasting_a and_o those_o which_o have_v do_v evil_a shall_v go_v to_o eternal_a fire_n whereupon_o the_o cardinnll_n say_v thus_o in_o quibus_fw-la verbis_fw-la confitemur_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o which_o word_n of_o athanasius_n we_o confess_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o last_o judgement_n wherein_o the_o just_a judge_n will_v render_v to_o every_o one_o according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o his_o deed_n to_o some_o the_o crown_n of_o justice_n and_o to_o other_o eternal_a punishment_n and_o shame_n for_o if_o life_n everlasting_a shall_v be_v give_v to_o the_o faithful_a not_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o work_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o christ_n righteousness_n merciful_o impute_v unto_o they_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o need_n of_o judgement_n nor_o of_o examination_n of_o deed_n neither_o be_v it_o needful_a that_o there_o shall_v come_v a_o just_a judge_n but_o a_o merciful_a father_n neither_o that_o we_o shall_v render_v any_o reason_n of_o our_o deed_n but_o show_v christ_n justice_n impute_v unto_o we_o and_o apprehend_v by_o faith_n therefore_o the_o king_n can_v believe_v this_o article_n if_o he_o believe_v with_o calvin_n and_o the_o protestant_n that_o all_o the_o work_n of_o just_a man_n be_v sin_n 14._o for_o these_o be_v caluin_n word_n no_o work_n can_v pass_v from_o holy_a man_n which_o do_v not_o deserve_v the_o just_a reward_n of_o shame_n 46._o and_o what_o account_n shall_v just_a man_n be_v able_a to_o make_v of_o their_o own_o deed_n unto_o christ_n the_o judge_n if_o all_o their_o work_n be_v vicious_a and_o deserve_v the_o just_a reward_n of_o reproach_n and_o if_o just_a man_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o give_v account_n of_o their_o deed_n true_o the_o unjust_a shall_v be_v much_o less_o able_a to_o do_v it_o to_o what_o purpose_n then_o shall_v we_o all_o stand_v before_o the_o tribunal_n of_o christ_n to_o render_v account_n of_o our_o own_o action_n but_o perhaps_o they_o will_v say_v that_o all_o the_o work_n of_o the_o just_o be_v unclean_a and_o filthy_a but_o their_o filth_n shall_v be_v cover_v by_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n and_o the_o work_v repute_v as_o clean_o to_o the_o faithful_a for_o christ._n but_o if_o this_o 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custodiam_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la christo_fw-la ait_fw-la pontifici_fw-la commissam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la primatum_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n say_v that_o the_o charge_n of_o all_o the_o vineyard_n chalcedon_n that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v commit_v by_o christ_n himself_o to_o the_o bishop_n see_v how_o it_o contradict_v the_o council_n and_o the_o sentence_n of_o all_o the_o father_n that_o be_v there_o present_a who_o with_o one_o voice_n say_v siqua_fw-la essent_fw-la romanae_fw-la sedis_fw-la privilegia_fw-la ea_fw-la illi_fw-la non_fw-la à_fw-la christo_fw-la nesciebant_fw-la hoc_fw-la chalcedonenses_n quin_fw-la à_fw-la patribus_fw-la concessa_fw-la esse_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o the_o roman_a sea_n have_v any_o privilege_n the_o same_o be_v grant_v unto_o it_o not_o by_o christ_n for_o they_o in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n know_v not_o that_o but_o by_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n so_o he_o ground_v 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their_o tomb_n or_o else_o where_o redound_v to_o the_o honour_n and_o service_n of_o god_n to_o who_o the_o same_o be_v final_o direct_v and_o address_v and_o for_o who_o sake_n principal_o the_o holy_a martyr_n and_o saint_n be_v honour_v and_o serve_v therefore_o see_v the_o latin_a translation_n which_o the_o cardinal_n cite_v be_v not_o only_o free_a from_o error_n in_o doctrine_n but_o also_o conform_v to_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n and_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n it_o may_v well_o be_v admit_v though_o it_o be_v not_o altogether_o literal_a but_o howsoever_o it_o be_v the_o cardinal_n follow_v and_o allege_v it_o as_o it_o be_v general_o receive_v among_o learned_a man_n can_v not_o just_o be_v charge_v with_o fraud_n though_o the_o same_o shall_v be_v erroneous_a whereas_o m._n andrews_n show_v himself_o both_o fraudulent_a and_o malicious_a in_o charge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o pervert_v the_o greek_a text_n when_o he_o cite_v the_o latin_a translation_n with_o all_o sincerity_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o this_o point_n 31._o furthermore_o m._n andrew_n add_v to_o the_o two_o former_a place_n another_o out_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n chrysostome_n which_o the_o cardinal_n cite_v thus_o saepius_fw-la illos_fw-la invisamus_fw-la tumulos_fw-la adoremus_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v we_o often_o visit_v these_o martyr_n to_o wit_n s._n iwentinus_fw-la and_o s._n maximus_n let_v we_o adore_v their_o tomb_n &_o let_v we_o with_o great_a faith_n touch_v their_o relic_n to_o the_o end_n we_o may_v obtain_v some_o benediction_n thereby_o thus_o far_o the_o cardinal_n out_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o first_o 400._o year_n and_o namely_o s._n chrysostome_n approve_v the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a relic_n wherein_o m._n andrew_n pretend_v to_o have_v find_v two_o fraud_n neque_fw-la the_o one_o in_o the_o translation_n of_o the_o greek_a and_o the_o other_o in_o the_o allegation_n of_o the_o latin_n of_o the_o former_a he_o say_v thus_o nam_n &_o graecè_fw-la &c._n &c._n for_o in_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o touch_v the_o shrine_n but_o to_o touch_v the_o shrine_n i_o think_v be_v not_o to_o adore_v it_o our_o saviour_n do_v not_o adore_v the_o son_n of_o the_o widow_n of_o naim_n when_o he_o touch_v the_o coffin_n wherein_o his_o body_n lay_v so_o he_o 32._o wherein_o i_o beseech_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o note_v how_o substantial_o he_o answer_v this_o place_n say_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o substance_n and_o whole_a drift_n thereof_o but_o cavil_v only_o about_o a_o word_n word_n or_o two_o as_o if_o all_o the_o weight_n and_o force_v of_o the_o place_n consist_v therein_o whereas_o the_o place_n will_v direct_o pro●e_v all_o that_o which_o the_o cardinal_n intend_v though_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o which_o m._n andrew_n affirm_v concern_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o greek_a and_o the_o latin_n for_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v sup●licibus_fw-la manibus_fw-la orabant_fw-la as_o budaeus_fw-la expound_v it_o they_o pray_v with_o their_o hand_n hold_v up_o as_o suppliant_n also_o we_o read_v in_o homer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thetis_n autem_fw-la sicut_fw-la tetigit_fw-la genua_fw-la sic_fw-la inhaerebat_fw-la advoluta_fw-la where_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tetigit_fw-la genua_fw-la express_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n and_o supplication_n ●●_o and_o therefore_o whereas_o homer_n signify_v in_o another_o place_n the_o honour_n and_o reverence_n that_o thetis_n do_v to_o jupiter_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d accepit_fw-la genua_fw-la sinistra_fw-la eustathius_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o homer_n say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o do_v signify_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tangere_fw-la as_o if_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thetis_n touch_v the_o 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they_o mean_v to_o adore_v as_o though_o they_o will_v touch_v it_o and_o then_o to_o kiss_v their_o hand_n of_o which_o kind_n of_o adoration_n it_o seem_v job_n speak_v when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o have_v never_o kiss_v his_o hand_n when_o he_o see_v the_o sun_n and_o moon_n quae_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o iniquitas_fw-la maxima_fw-la which_o be_v the_o great_a iniquity_n that_o may_v be_v and_o from_o hence_o no_o doubt_n descend_v the_o civil_a veneration_n with_o the_o hand_n whereof_o marshal_n speak_v when_o he_o say_v 65_o roma_fw-la salut_fw-la avit_fw-la voce_fw-la manuque_fw-la ducem_fw-la rome_n salute_v her_o captain_n both_o with_o voice_n and_o hand_n and_o the_o like_v we_o read_v in_o tacitus_n anual_a who_o say_v of_o nero_n that_o be_v to_o sing_v he_o bow_v his_o knee_n &_o coetum_fw-la manu_fw-la veneratus_fw-la est_fw-la histor_n do_v reverence_n to_o the_o whole_a company_n with_o his_o hand_n and_o of_o otho_n that_o protendens_fw-la manum_fw-la adoravit_fw-la vulgum_fw-la he_o adore_v the_o people_n stretch_v forth_o his_o hand_n claudio_n and_o suetonius_n seem_v to_o signify_v the_o like_a of_o claudius_n the_o emperor_n when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o reverence_v the_o senator_n voce_fw-mi manuque_fw-la with_o his_o voice_n &_o hand_n and_o this_o i_o say_v be_v a_o kind_n of_o touch_v a_o far_o off_o or_o a_o demonstration_n of_o a_o desire_n for_o reverence_v sake_n to_o touch_v those_o person_n or_o thing_n which_o be_v out_o of_o reach_n 39_o but_o now_o to_o return_v to_o actual_a touch_v for_o reverence_n or_o devotion_n signify_v in_o latin_a author_n by_o the_o word_n tangere_fw-la 48._o as_o it_o be_v among_o the_o greek_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pliny_n witness_v that_o the_o ancient_a grecian_n do_v use_v attingere_fw-la genua_fw-la vel_fw-la mentum_fw-la to_o touch_v the_o knee_n or_o chin_n of_o those_o to_o who_o they_o make_v supplication_n
and_o servius_n refer_v the_o same_o to_o the_o forehead_n say_v venerantes_fw-la deum_fw-la tangimus_fw-la frontem_fw-la we_o read_v also_o in_o virgil_n tangere_fw-la arras_n use_v for_o the_o take_n of_o a_o solemn_a oath_n by_o touch_v the_o altar_n and_o in_o another_o poet_n ouidius_fw-la tange_fw-la manu_fw-la mensam_fw-la tangunt_fw-la quo_fw-la more_fw-it precantes_fw-la touch_v the_o table_n with_o thy_o hand_n as_o man_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v when_o they_o pray_v also_o the_o paynim_n be_v accustom_v to_o touch_v the_o right_a hand_n of_o their_o god_n for_o reverence_n and_o devotion_n whereupon_o lucretius_n say_v tum_fw-la portas_fw-la propter_fw-la ahena_fw-la 1._o signa_fw-la manus_fw-la dextras_fw-la ostendunt_fw-la attenuari_fw-la saepe_fw-la salutantum_fw-la tactu_fw-la praeterque_fw-la meantum_fw-la the_o sense_n be_v that_o the_o image_n of_o the_o god_n stand_v at_o the_o gate_n have_v their_o right_a hand_n wear_v with_o the_o frequent_a touch_v of_o passenger_n 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reviue_v as_o soon_o as_o it_o touch_v the_o bone_n of_o the_o prophet_n elizaeus_n 8._o and_o the_o like_a recount_v s._n augustine_n of_o eucharius_n a_o priest_n a_o religious_a woman_n and_o a_o young_a maid_n who_o be_v all_o 3._o dead_a be_v restore_v to_o life_n as_o soon_o as_o their_o garment_n which_o have_v be_v lay_v upon_o the_o relic_n of_o s._n stephen_n be_v cast_v upon_o they_o also_o he_o signify_v that_o a_o blind_a woman_n recover_v her_o sight_n by_o apply_v to_o her_o eye_n certain_a flower_n which_o have_v but_o touch_v the_o say_v martyr_n relic_n marcellin_n s._n ambrose_n also_o testify_v the_o like_o concern_v the_o relyque_n of_o s._n geruasius_n and_o s._n protasius_n say_v cognovistis_fw-la imo_fw-la vidistis_fw-la etc._n etc._n you_o have_v know_v yea_o you_o have_v see_v many_o dispossess_v of_o devil_n and_o very_o many_o cure_v of_o their_o disease_n assoon_o as_o they_o touch_v the_o clothes_n of_o the_o saint_n so_o he_o who_o also_o further_o declare_v that_o man_n use_v common_o to_o cast_v their_o garment_n super_fw-la sanctissimas_fw-la reliquias_fw-la upon_o their_o most_o holy_a relic_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v become_v tactu_fw-la ipso_fw-la medicabilia_fw-la medicinable_a or_o able_a to_o cure_v disease_n even_o by_o touch_v they_o and_o final_o he_o say_v that_o man_n desire_v to_o touch_v though_o it_o be_v but_o the_o very_a extreme_a part_n of_o their_o relyque_n &_o qui_fw-la tetigerit_fw-la say_v he_o saluus_fw-la ●rit_fw-la and_o he_o which_o touch_v they_o shall_v be_v safe_a or_o heal_v 42._o now_o than_o all_o this_o be_v consider_v with_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n in_o s._n chrysostome_n to_o wit_n that_o he_o not_o only_o exhort_v the_o people_n to_o touch_v the_o shrine_n of_o the_o martyr_n but_o also_o to_o embrace_v their_o relic_n which_o faith_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v receive_v some_o benediction_n thereby_o who_o see_v not_o that_o he_o do_v evident_o include_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n and_o devotion_n to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o tomb_n and_o relic_n of_o the_o martyr_n by_o the_o reverend_a touch_v of_o they_o whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o he_o who_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tumulum_fw-la adorare_fw-la give_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o so_o neither_o he_o nor_o the_o cardinal_n follow_v his_o translation_n have_v commit_v any_o error_n and_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n may_v do_v well_o to_o rectify_v his_o belief_n which_o be_v as_o you_o have_v hear_v that_o capsulam_fw-la tangere_fw-la be_v not_o adorare_fw-la so_o as_o withal_o he_o learn_v to_o take_v adoration_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o here_o it_o be_v mean_v and_o be_v frequent_o use_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n i_o mean_v for_o a_o religious_a worship_n 15._o or_o veneration_n inferior_a to_o divyne_a honour_n which_o i_o hope_v to_o persuade_v he_o or_o at_o least_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n in_o the_o 9_o chapter_n 7._o beside_o that_o it_o may_v please_v he_o to_o free_v the_o cardinal_n from_o the_o fraud_n which_o he_o impute_v to_o he_o for_o use_v adoremus_fw-la in_o steed_n of_o adornemus_fw-la see_v it_o be_v evident_a by_o this_o which_o i_o have_v say_v that_o adoremus_fw-la express_v the_o sense_n of_o tangamus_fw-la as_o it_o be_v use_v by_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o that_o place_n and_o therefore_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n conclude_v abesse_fw-la voci_fw-la litteram_fw-la cardinali_n fidem_fw-la that_o there_o want_v a_o letter_n in_o the_o word_n and_o fidelity_n in_o the_o cardinal_n he_o may_v now_o understand_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o want_n here_o but_o of_o wit_n in_o himself_o or_o at_o least_o of_o a_o sincere_a will_n to_o understand_v the_o place_n aright_o according_a to_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o author_n and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o answer_v to_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o rank_n 43._o now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o say_v to_o the_o 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himself_o merry_a with_o the_o word_n crypta_fw-la for_o that_o vossius_fw-la the_o translator_n signify_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o first_o tome_n that_o he_o have_v a_o special_a help_n for_o his_o translation_n by_o two_o very_a ancient_a manuscript_n or_o write_v copy_n of_o s._n ephrem_n work_n which_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o crypta_fw-la ferrata_fw-la a_o famous_a monastery_n near_o to_o rome_n call_v common_o in_o italian_a grotta_n ferrata_fw-la of_o which_o manuscript_n the_o one_o be_v write_v in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 531._o 44._o but_o what_o cause_n have_v m._n andrews_n to_o jest_v at_o this_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o indifferent_a man_n it_o may_v serve_v for_o no_o small_a justification_n of_o the_o translator_n that_o he_o fortify_v his_o translation_n with_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o a_o ancient_a manuscript_n write_v above_o eleven_o hundred_o year_n ago_o
more_o shall_v all_o man_n than_o abound_v in_o this_o gift_n when_o god_n shall_v be_v omne_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la all_o in_o all_o thus_o discourse_v this_o learned_a father_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o saint_n after_o their_o resurrection_n videbunt_fw-la omne_fw-la shall_v see_v all_o thing_n with_o their_o spiritual_a eye_n etiam_fw-la unde_fw-la sunt_fw-la corpore_fw-la absentes_fw-la even_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a in_o body_n 21._o and_o this_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v in_o like_a manner_n of_o glorified_a soul_n before_o the_o resurrection_n for_o that_o the_o glorification_n of_o their_o body_n although_o it_o shall_v increase_v their_o joy_n and_o glory_n yet_o shall_v not_o increase_v their_o vision_n of_o god_n or_o knowledge_n which_o they_o have_v now_o as_o perfect_v as_o they_o shall_v have_v after_o their_o resurrection_n final_o to_o omit_v many_o other_o father_n which_o may_v be_v allege_v s._n gregory_n say_v 14._o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v that_o quae_fw-la intus_fw-la claritatem_fw-la dei_fw-la vident_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o soul_n which_o see_v into_o the_o light_n or_o brightness_n of_o god_n be_v ignorant_a of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v abroad_o 33._o and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n quia_fw-la in_o illa_fw-la aeterna_fw-la haereditate_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o as_o much_o as_o in_o that_o eternal_a inheritance_n all_o man_n do_v see_v god_n with_o a_o common_a clarity_n or_o brightness_n what_o be_v there_o which_o they_o can_v know_v who_o know_v he_o that_o know_v all_o thing_n thus_o say_v s._n gregory_n teach_v as_o you_o see_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n know_v all_o thing_n in_o earth_n and_o yield_v the_o self_n same_o reason_n thereof_o which_o you_o have_v hear_v m._n andrews_n say_v be_v inaudita_fw-la patribus_fw-la never_o hear_v of_o among_o the_o father_n to_o wit_n that_o because_o they_o see_v and_o know_v god_n therefore_o they_o see_v and_o know_v all_o thing_n in_o he_o in_o who_o omne_fw-la constant_a say_v the_o apostle_n all_o thing_n do_v consist_v 22._o so_o as_o howsoever_o the_o ancient_a father_n may_v have_v differ_v in_o opinion_n concern_v the_o manner_n how_o the_o saint_n know_v thing_n do_v on_o earth_n grant_n m._n andrews_n may_v see_v that_o they_o agree_v touch_v the_o effect_n which_o also_o be_v so_o conform_v to_o reason_n that_o he_o can_v with_o reason_n deny_v it_o especial_o see_v he_o himself_o grant_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o of_o their_o charity_n &_o love_n towards_o us._n for_o if_o they_o love_v we_o so_o that_o as_o 57_o s._n cyprian_n say_v de_fw-la nostra_fw-la salute_v sunt_fw-la solliciti_fw-la they_o be_v careful_a for_o our_o salvation_n and_o as_o m._n andrews_n 9_o confess_v they_o do_v indeed_o pray_v for_o we_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o their_o love_n and_o care_n do_v include_v a_o desire_n to_o know_v our_o necessity_n whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o they_o 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upon_o such_o sure_a foundation_n as_o here_o i_o have_v declare_v to_o wit_n the_o continual_a custom_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o pray_v to_o they_o the_o manifest_a experience_n of_o benefit_n receive_v by_o they_o the_o conformity_n thereof_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n with_o the_o uniform_a and_o express_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n &_o last_o upon_o reason_n itself_o how_o little_a reason_n have_v m._n andrews_n to_o deny_v it_o upon_o no_o better_a reason_n then_o because_o it_o be_v uncertain_a in_o what_o manner_n they_o hear_v we_o especial_o see_v i_o have_v also_o evident_o prove_v that_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o manner_n 14._o mean_n or_o cause_n of_o any_o thing_n can_v nothing_o derogate_v from_o the_o certaynty_a of_o the_o effect_n so_o as_o he_o must_v either_o bring_v some_o more_o solid_a argument_n against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n or_o else_o he_o shall_v but_o discover_v both_o his_o own_o imbecility_n and_o the_o weakness_n if_o his_o cause_n 24._o and_o therefore_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o seek_v some_o better_a reason_n andrews_n which_o he_o do_v seem_v to_o put_v the_o case_n that_o it_o be_v true_a yea_o most_o manifest_a that_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n yet_o ne_fw-la sic_fw-la quidem_fw-la say_v he_o audemus_fw-la vota_fw-la nostra_fw-la ad_fw-la illos_fw-la precesque_fw-la dirigere_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o for_o all_o that_o direct_v our_o vow_n verum_fw-la and_o prayer_n unto_o they_o and_o hereof_o he_o yield_v this_o reason_n cum_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la ●a_n de_fw-mi re_fw-mi nullum_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la autem_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la in_o lege_fw-la disertis_fw-la verbis_fw-la 12._o quod_fw-la tibi_fw-la praecepero_fw-la hoc_fw-la tantùm_fw-la facies_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o say_v he_o pray_v unto_o they_o because_o we_o have_v receive_v no_o precept_n concern_v that_o point_n scripture_n but_o have_v receive_v a_o precept_n in_o the_o law_n in_o express_a word_n what_o i_o shall_v command_v thou_o that_o only_o thou_o shall_v do_v so_o he_o and_o then_o conclude_v id_fw-la tantùm_fw-la audemus_fw-la facere_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o dare_v do_v that_o only_o whereof_o we_o have_v a_o precept_n bring_v you_o a_o precept_n and_o we_o will_v straight_o invocate_v they_o with_o you_o thus_o argue_v he_o 25._o and_o have_v he_o not_o trow_v you_o very_o well_o prove_v now_o that_o nothing_o may_v be_v practise_v in_o god_n church_n without_o a_o express_v write_v precept_n scripture_n who_o will_v think_v that_o a_o doctor_n of_o divinity_n shall_v have_v so_o little_a understanding_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o to_o infer_v this_o conclusion_n upon_o the_o place_n that_o he_o allege_v which_o concern_v only_o the_o sacrifice_n that_o god_n require_v and_o command_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o he_o in_o the_o mosaycall_a law_n as_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o very_a circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n in_o the_o 12._o chapter_n of_o deuteronomy_n from_o whence_o that_o precept_n be_v take_v for_o when_o almighty_a god_n have_v admonish_v the_o people_n to_o beware_v that_o they_o do_v not_o imitate_v the_o nation_n who_o land_n they_o shall_v possess_v in_o their_o abominable_a sacrifice_n say_v for_o all_o the_o abomination_n that_o our_o lord_n do_v abhor_v have_v they_o do_v to_o their_o god_n 12._o offer_v their_o son_n and_o daughter_n andrews_n and_o burn_v they_o with_o fire_n after_o this_o i_o say_v follow_v immediate_o what_o i_o command_v thou_o that_o only_o do_v to_o our_o lord_n neither_o add_v any_o thing_n nor_o diminish_v thus_o say_v almighty_a god_n as_o who_o will_v say_v whereas_o the_o gentill_n who_o land_n thou_o shall_v possess_v do_v worship_v their_o god_n with_o most_o abominable_a sacrifice_n and_o ceremony_n sacrifice_v their_o own_o child_n by_o fire_n do_v not_o thou_o imitate_v they_o therein_o but_o offer_v thou_o to_o i_o in_o sacrifice_n only_o that_o which_o i_o do_v command_v thou_o to_o wit_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v ordain_v and_o prescrybed_n in_o the_o law_n to_o that_o end_n 26._o and_o this_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o clear_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o those_o word_n for_o if_o they_o shall_v be_v understand_v as_o m._n andrews_n take_v they_o to_o exclude_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o thing_n whatsoever_o that_o be_v not_o express_o command_v in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o law_n 4._o than_o the_o solmne_v feast_n ordain_v afterward_o by_o mardochaeus_n judith_n and_o the_o maccabee_n have_v be_v unlawful_a which_o nevertheless_o be_v approve_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o last_o of_o the_o 3._o to_o wit_n the_o feast_n of_o the_o dedication_n institute_v by_o the_o maccabee_n 10._o be_v honour_v by_o our_o saviour_n himself_o with_o his_o presence_n but_o let_v we_o put_v the_o case_n that_o this_o commandment_n of_o almighty_a god_n be_v general_a touch_v the_o service_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a law_n argument_n will_n m._n andrew_n infer_v thereupon_o that_o
conclude_v this_o chapter_n and_o matter_n not_o doubting●_n good_a reader_n but_o thou_o have_v note_v throughout_o the_o whole_a that_o he_o have_v neither_o sufficient_o answer_v any_o one_o place_n of_o the_o father_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n or_o any_o argument_n of_o he_o neither_o yet_o have_v object_v any_o thing_n himself_o to_o any_o purpose_n but_o have_v either_o notable_o tryfle_v and_o paltre_v in_o his_o answer_n and_o objection_n or_o egregious_o pervert_v corrupt_v or_o falsify_v such_o father_n and_o author_n as_o he_o have_v have_v occasion_n to_o allege_v degree_n 76._o so_o as_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v now_o perform_v that_o which_o i_o undertake_v in_o these_o 3._o chapter_n which_o be_v to_o defend_v the_o cardinal_n and_o to_o prove_v m._n andrews_n to_o be_v a_o true_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v a_o egregious_a wrangler_n jangler_n juggler_n and_o tryfler_n in_o the_o hygh_a degree_n and_o by_o the_o same_o occasion_n i_o have_v also_o full_o debate_v with_o he_o a_o important_a point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n concern_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o i_o have_v evident_o prove_v to_o be_v most_o consonant_a to_o holy_a scripture_n practise_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n approve_v by_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n most_o acceptable_a to_o god_n honourable_a to_o he_o and_o his_o saint_n and_o final_o very_o behooveful_a and_o beneficial_a to_o man_n whereby_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o m._n andrews_n and_o his_o fellow_n who_o so_o eager_o impugn_v it_o be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o instrument_n and_o proctor_n of_o the_o devil_n who_o out_o of_o his_o extreme_a malice_n and_o envy_n to_o angel_n saint_n and_o all_o mankind_n seek_v by_o all_o the_o mean_n he_o may_v to_o deprive_v the_o angel_n and_o saint_n of_o their_o honour_n proctor_n and_o man_n of_o the_o inestimable_a benefit_n that_o he_o may_v reap_v both_o spiritual_o and_o temporal_o by_o their_o intercession_n to_o which_o purpose_n he_o have_v retain_v and_o fey_v m._n andrews_n as_o it_o seem_v by_o his_o diligent_a and_o eloquent_a plead_v the_o cause_n and_o will_v i_o fear_v i_o one_o day_n pay_v he_o his_o fee_n in_o other_o money_n than_o he_o will_v be_v willing_a to_o receive_v except_o he_o open_v his_o eye_n in_o time_n to_o see_v his_o danger_n which_o i_o beseech_v god_n of_o his_o infinite_a mercy_n to_o give_v he_o grace_n to_o do_v the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n divide_v into_o two_o chapter_n in_o this_o be_v detect_v diverse_a fraud_n and_o shift_n common_a to_o m._n andrews_n with_o m._n barlow_n as_o to_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n to_o dissemble_v that_o which_o most_o import_v in_o the_o cardinal_n text_n and_o argument_n to_o abuse_v wrest_v bely_v and_o falsefy_v not_o only_o the_o cardinal_n but_o also_o the_o ancient_a father_n counsel_n and_o holy_a scripture_n and_o final_o to_o face_n out_o matter_n impudent_o for_o lack_v of_o proof_n chap._n ix_o there_o remain_v good_a reader_n diverse_a other_o thing_n in_o m._n andrews_n to_o be_v examine_v which_o i_o have_v touch_v in_o my_o supplement_n end_n but_o be_v now_o call_v on_o by_o my_o printer_n to_o furnish_v his_o press_n i_o be_o force_v not_o only_o to_o send_v away_o that_o which_o i_o have_v already_o write_v but_o also_o to_o interrupt_v my_o designment_n in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o the_o rest_n and_o therefore_o for_o as_o much_o as_o i_o be_o now_o to_o draw_v to_o a_o end_n i_o think_v good_a for_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o whole_a to_o lay_v before_o thou_o sundry_a sort_n of_o shift_n cozenage_n corruption_n &_o fraud_n which_o he_o have_v use_v throughout_o his_o whole_a work_n and_o to_o the_o end_n i_o may_v perform_v it_o with_o more_o brevity_n and_o better_a method_n i_o will_v follow_v the_o same_o course_n that_o i_o hold_v with_o m._n barlow_n that_o be_v draw_v they_o to_o certain_a ●eades_n and_o give_v thou_o some_o few_o example_n of_o every_o one_o which_o be_v add_v to_o those_o that_o have_v already_o occur_v in_o this_o adjoinder_n may_v suffice_v i_o hope_v to_o show_v ●hee_o with_o what_o kind_n of_o stuff_n he_o have_v patch_v up_o his_o latin_a volume_n what_o a_o miserable_a cause_n he_o and_o his_o fellow_n have_v to_o defend_v see_v it_o drive_v they_o to_o such_o shameful_a shift_n as_o thou_o have_v partly_o see_v already_o and_o shall_v further_o see_v by_o that_o which_o ensue_v 2._o the_o first_o point_n which_o i_o reprove_v in_o m._n barlow_n be_v his_o common_a custom_n to_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n primacy_n and_o so_o to_o answer_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n which_o be_v no_o less_o frequent_a and_o ordinary_a in_o m._n andrews_n as_o for_o example_n whereas_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o we_o and_o they_o concern_v the_o primacy_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v whether_o he_o be_v supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o spiritual_a and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o may_v in_o some_o case_n extend_v his_o power_n to_o temporal_a thing_n that_o be_v to_o say_v whether_o be_v the_o supreme_a spiritual_a pastor_n he_o may_v for_o the_o public_a benefit_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o good_a of_o soul_n punish_v his_o disobedient_a child_n namely_o temporal_a prince_n in_o their_o temporal_a seq_n state_n which_o i_o have_v show_v in_o my_o supplement_n to_o be_v a_o necessary_a consequent_a of_o his_o supreme_a spiritual_a power_n m._n andrews_n will_v needs_o make_v we_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o the_o pope_n primacy_n be_v a_o temporal_a primacy_n in_o which_o respect_n he_o 4._o call_v our_o doctrine_n and_o belief_n touch_v that_o point_n illustrem_fw-la fidei_fw-la articulum_fw-la de_fw-la primatu_fw-la petri_n temporali_fw-la the_o notable_a article_n of_o faith_n concern_v the_o temporal_a primacy_n of_o peter_n and_o as_o you_o hear_v 21._o before_o distinguish_v the_o name_n of_o peter_n primacy_n which_o he_o grant_v from_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o that_o name_n which_o he_o deny_v he_o term_v it_o 1._o terrestrem_fw-la monarchiam_fw-la a_o earthly_a monarchy_n and_o therefore_o he_o urge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v this_o temporal_a primacy_n and_o earthly_a monarchy_n and_o so_o impugn_v no_o opinion_n of_o we_o nor_o any_o thing_n else_o but_o his_o own_o fond_a fiction_n as_o i_o have_v show_v 22._o before_o and_o more_o ample_o in_o the_o 2d_o first_o chapter_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o stand_v any_o long_o upon_o this_o point_n here_o but_o will_v pass_v to_o another_o 3._o among_o other_o question_n much_o controverse_v concern_v good_a work_n supererogation_n one_o be_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o work_n of_o supererogation_n which_o the_o catholyk_n understand_v to_o be_v such_o as_o be_v lawful_a and_o good_a of_o their_o own_o nature_n be_v not_o command_v by_o any_o precept_n as_o for_o example_n the_o evangelicall_a counsel_n in_o which_o sense_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n and_o all_o other_o catholic_n do_v use_v the_o word_n supererogation_n as_o signify_v a_o work_n do_v supra_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v more_o than_o the_o precept_n command_v but_o m._n andrew_n impugn_v it_o in_o another_o sense_n and_o so_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n supererogationis_fw-la for_o he_o will_v needs_o have_v work_n of_o supererogation_n to_o be_v such_o good_a work_n only_o as_o be_v do_v after_o or_o beside_o the_o full_a accomplishment_n of_o the_o commandment_n so_o that_o before_o a_o man_n can_v do_v a_o work_n of_o supererogation_n he_o must_v fulfil_v and_o full_o observe_v all_o the_o precept_n whereupon_o he_o also_o infer_v that_o no_o man_n can_v do_v any_o such_o work_n no_o not_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o because_o they_o can_v not_o fulfil_v the_o commandment_n have_v always_o occasion_n to_o to_o say_v dimitte_n nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la forgive_v we_o lord_n our_o offence_n 4._o wherein_o m._n andrews_n express_o impugn_v not_o so_o much_o the_o cardinal_n and_o other_o catholic_n as_o s._n augustine_n and_o other_o ancient_a father_n from_o who_o they_o take_v both_o the_o term_n and_o the_o sense_n thereof_o for_o whereas_o our_o saviour_n say_v in_o the_o gospel_n that_o the_o good_a samaritan_n bring_v the_o wound_a man_n into_o the_o inn_n 10._o and_o leave_v two_o penny_n with_o the_o host_n tell_v he_o quodcumque_fw-la supererogaveris_fw-la reddam_fw-la tibi_fw-la whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v lay_v out_o more_o i_o will_v render_v it_o unto_o thou_o s._n augustine_n allude_v to_o the_o same_o place_n and_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n teach_v evident_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v lawful_a id_fw-la est_fw-la 14._o say_v he_o nullo_fw-la praecepto_fw-la domini_fw-la prohibentur_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v which_o be_v not_o forbid_v by_o any_o precept_n of_o our_o lord_n
catholic_a who_o teach_v or_o think_v that_o the_o bare_a sacrament_n in_o the_o eucharist_n i_o mean_v the_o exterior_a form_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v without_o christ_n presence_n or_o in_o respect_n of_o itself_o and_o this_o may_v suffice_v for_o this_o point_n relic_n 10._o i_o may_v add_v the_o like_o concern_v another_o point_n wherein_o m._n andrew_n charge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n i_o mean_v touch_v the_o reverence_n and_o honour_n that_o be_v and_o always_o have_v be_v do_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o the_o holy_a relic_n of_o saint_n for_o whereas_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n condemn_v it_o for_o a_o new_a and_o false_a yea_o a_o abominable_a doctrine_n and_o the_o cardinal_n in_o his_o answer_n thereto_o so_o ample_o and_o evident_o prove_v it_o out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v m._n andrews_n have_v no_o other_o refuge_n but_o to_o take_v hold_n of_o the_o word_n adoration_n use_v 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he_o daemon_n rugiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o which_o relic_n devil_n do_v roar_v and_o the_o inhabitor_n and_o prossessor_n of_o vigilantius_n do_v confess_v that_o they_o feel_v their_o presence_n so_o he_o and_o then_o produce_v also_o another_o example_n that_o have_v pass_v not_o long_o before_o of_o a_o most_o solemn_a translation_n of_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n the_o prophet_n from_o judaea_n to_o chalcedon_n in_o thracia_n which_o be_v sumptuous_o and_o triumphant_o carry_v by_o bishop_n in_o a_o golden_a vessel_n and_o meet_v receive_v and_o accompany_v by_o the_o people_n of_o all_o the_o church_n by_o the_o way_n in_o so_o much_o that_o there_o be_v say_v s._n hierome_n continual_a swarm_n of_o people_n even_o from_o palestina_n to_o chalcedon_n sound_v forth_o the_o praise_n of_o christ_n with_o one_o voice_n all_o a_o long_a as_o they_o go_v hierome_n whereupon_o he_o ask_v vigilantius_n whether_o
he_o take_v arcadius_n the_o emperor_n who_o cause_v this_o to_o be_v do_v and_o all_o the_o bishop_n which_o carry_v these_o relic_n and_o all_o the_o multitude_n of_o people_n which_o accompany_v they_o for_o sacrilegious_a person_n and_o fool_n and_o final_o conclude_v deryde_v his_o folly_n videlicet_fw-la say_v he_o adorabant_fw-la samuelem_fw-la non_fw-la christum_fw-la cvius_fw-la samuel_n &_o levita_fw-la &_o propheta_fw-la fuit_fw-la belike_o they_o adore_v samuel_n and_o not_o christ_n who_o levite_n and_o prophet_n samuel_n be_v this_o say_v s._n hierome_n show_v the_o absurdity_n of_o vigilantius_n who_o do_v think_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o adore_v in_o all_o this_o but_o only_o samuel_n whereas_o all_o the_o reverence_n honour_n &_o adoration_n use_v by_o those_o bishop_n and_o people_n to_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n be_v indeed_o do_v to_o christ_n because_o as_o s._n hierome_n say_v before_o seruorum_fw-la honos_fw-la redundat_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la the_o honour_n of_o the_o servant_n redound_v to_o their_o lord_n 26._o so_o that_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o deny_v that_o holy_a relic_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o as_o m._n andrew_n follow_v his_o progenitor_n vigilantius_n will_v needs_o understand_v the_o word_n adoration_n that_o be_v for_o a_o divine_a cult_a and_o worship_n in_o which_o sense_n neither_o s._n hierome_n nor_o the_o catholic_n in_o his_o time_n nor_o we_o now_o do_v use_n or_o take_v it_o when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o holy_a thing_n but_o only_o for_o a_o devout_a and_o religious_a veneration_n as_o s._n hierome_n himself_o do_v also_o use_v it_o not_o only_o in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n touch_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o ash_n of_o s._n john_n and_o other_o prophet_n but_o also_o when_o he_o say_v of_o himself_o ruffin_n praesepe_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o incunabula_fw-la adoravi_fw-la i_o adore_v the_o manger_n and_o cradle_n of_o christ_n and_o again_o expound_v that_o verse_n of_o the_o psalm_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la eius_fw-la adore_v the_o footstole_a of_o his_o foot_n he_o take_v the_o footstool_n to_o be_v the_o cross_n 98._o give_v thereby_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o cross_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o therefore_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o thou_o good_a reader_n to_o judge_v what_o a_o vain_a vaunt_n it_o be_v of_o m._n andrews_n to_o say_v upon_o the_o former_a place_n of_o s._n hierome_n tenetur_fw-la hic_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la ut_fw-la elabi_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la hecre_n the_o cardinal_n be_v take_v and_o hold_v so_o fast_o that_o he_o can_v slip_v away_o whereas_o you_o see_v that_o the_o whole_a place_n and_o the_o circumstance_n be_v lay_v down_o with_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o vigilantius_n and_o s._n hierome_n all_o which_o he_o crafty_o conceal_v he_o be_v catch_v himself_o like_o a_o mouse_n in_o a_o trap_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o get_v out_o with_o his_o credit_n 27._o examine_v but_o yet_o there_o remain_v a_o word_n or_o two_o more_o to_o be_v say_v of_o this_o matter_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n ambrose_n which_o he_o also_o object_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n for_o whereas_o those_o two_o father_n interpret_n the_o word_n of_o the_o psalm_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la eius_fw-la adore_v you_o the_o footstool_n of_o his_o foot_n do_v expound_v the_o footstool_n to_o be_v the_o body_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 12._o teach_v that_o the_o same_o be_v there_o to_o be_v adore_v m._n andrews_n say_v that_o if_o adorare_fw-la may_v be_v take_v proper_o to_o adore_v holy_a thing_n they_o will_v never_o have_v trouble_v themselves_o so_o much_o to_o find_v out_o how_o the_o footstool_n of_o god_n may_v be_v adore_v neither_o will_v they_o have_v determine_v that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v adore_v but_o in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n 13._o whereto_o i_o answer_v first●_o that_o they_o do_v not_o expound_v the_o same_o literal_o but_o mystical_o for_o scabellum_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o footstool_n of_o god_n in_o that_o place_n be_v literal_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o testament_n as_o the_o cardinal_n have_v prove_v by_o many_o notable_a reason_n &_o authority_n in_o his_o controversys_n whereto_o i_o remit_v m._n andrews_n because_o i_o will_v not_o detain_v my_o reader_n too_o long_o upon_o this_o point_n 28._o second_o i_o say_v that_o albeit_o they_o understand_v adoration_n in_o that_o place_n for_o divine_a honour_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o it_o be_v and_o well_o may_v be_v take_v in_o other_o place_n 1._o for_o a_o religious_a worship_n do_v to_o holy_a man_n for_o s._n augustine_n himself_o teach_v express_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o word_n in_o latin_a that_o so_o proper_o signify_v divine_a honour_n or_o worship_n but_o it_o be_v and_o may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n except_o latria_n which_o be_v borrow_v of_o the_o greek_n and_o apply_v either_o always_o say_v s._n augustine_n or_o almost_o always_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n rather_o by_o custom_n and_o use_n then_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n proper_o signify_v seruitus_fw-la service_n for_o which_o cause_n have_v in_o his_o question_n upon_o genesis_n demand_v how_o abraham_n can_v lawful_o adore_v the_o child_n of_o heth_n see_v the_o scripture_n say_v 4._o dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la tuum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v thy_o lord_n god_n and_o serve_v he_o alone_o he_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o say_v there_o deum_fw-la solum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v god_n alone_o but_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v serve_v he_o alone_o and_o note_v also_o that_o for_o the_o word_n seruies_fw-la in_o latin_a the_o greek_a have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o whence_o be_v derive_v latria_n so_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o s._n augustine_n himself_o that_o neither_o adorare_fw-la nor_o any_o other_o latin_a word_n do_v proper_o signify_v to_o worship_n god_n only_o and_o that_o adoratio_fw-la when_o it_o be_v not_o take_v for_o cultus_fw-la latriae_fw-la as_o he_o take_v it_o in_o the_o exposition_n of_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n and_o therefore_o he_o himself_o not_o only_o understand_v adoration_n for_o civil_a worship_n in_o the_o foresay_a example_n of_o abraham_n sanctis_fw-la but_o also_o use_v it_o else_o where_o for_o religious_a worship_n due_a to_o holy_a man_n say_v of_o s._n peter_n bea●issimum_fw-la petrum_fw-la piscatorom_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o multitude_n of_o faithful_a people_n do_v now_o adore_v the_o most_o bless_a peter_n the_o fishery_n genibus_fw-la provolutis_fw-la upon_o their_o knee_n theodosij_n 29._o s._n ambrose_n also_o make_v no_o doubt_n to_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o veneration_n and_o worship_n of_o holy_a thing_n who_o speak_v of_o the_o nail_n of_o christ_n cross_n which_o queen_n helen_n cause_v to_o be_v set_v in_o the_o diadem_n of_o the_o emperor_n constantin_n her_o son_n say_v that_o she_o do_v wise_o therein_o ut_fw-la crux_fw-la christi_fw-la adoretur_fw-la in_o regibus_fw-la that_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o king_n and_o to_o show_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o religious_a worship_n &_o adoration_n &_o not_o of_o civil_a honour_n due_a to_o king_n he_o add_v immediate_o non_fw-la insolentia_fw-la ista_fw-la sed_fw-la pietas_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la defertur_fw-la sacrae_fw-la redemptioni_fw-la this_o be_v not_o insolency_n but_o piety_n when_o 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v refer_v to_o our_o holy_a redemption_n wherein_o i_o wish_v it_o ●o_o be_v note_v by_o the_o way_n that_o m._n andrew_n may_v learn_v hereby_o how_o impertinent_o he_o answer_v else_o where_o to_o this_o place_n allege_v by_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n for_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v the_o religious_a adoration_n of_o relic_n and_o image_n object_v out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n this_o very_a place_n to_o wit_n that_o queen_n helen_n do_v well_o and_o wise_o cause_v the_o cross_n to_o be_v set_v upon_o the_o head_n of_o king_n to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o king_n m._n andrews_n answer_v ambrosio_n that_o if_o the_o cross_n be_v adore_v in_o king_n non_fw-la aliter_fw-la adoratur_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o adore_v then_o the_o king_n themselves_o be_v autem_fw-la civilis_fw-la honos_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la religiosus_fw-la but_o this_o be_v a_o civil_a and_o not_o religious_a honour_n so_o he_o but_o you_o see_v here_o that_o the_o adoration_n whereof_o s._n ambrose_n speak_v be_v not_o due_a or_o give_v to_o the_o king_n themselves_o but_o refer_v to_o our_o redemption_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o
si_fw-la ita_fw-la esset_fw-la if_o it_o be_v so_o as_o calvin_n teach_v that_o be_v to_o say_v if_o the_o just_a man_n best_a work_n be_v sinful_a and_o impure_a and_o yet_o cover_v and_o repute_v as_o clean_o by_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n and_o for_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n impute_v unto_o we_o than_o the_o justice_n of_o a_o judge_n to_o examine_v and_o judge_n our_o work_n be_v needle_n and_o to_o no_o purpose_n see_v in_o that_o case_n the_o only_a mercy_n of_o god_n cover_v our_o sin_n and_o impute_v christ_n righteousenes_n unto_o we_o will_v suffice_v to_o save_v we_o without_o the_o examination_n and_o just_a judgement_n of_o work_n which_o consequence_n be_v indeed_o so_o clear_a that_o m._n andrews_n have_v no_o other_o shift_n to_o avoid_v it_o but_o to_o pervert_v the_o cardinal_n whole_a sense_n and_o meaning_n and_o so_o to_o argue_v against_o his_o own_o fiction_n and_o make_v a_o plain_a schi●ma●hia_n as_o you_o have_v see_v he_o often_o do_v before_o 53._o 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undertake_v to_o show_v at_o this_o time_n and_o therefore_o i_o omit_v to_o prosecute_v the_o confutation_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o idle_a discourse_n wherein_o after_o some_o further_a gybe_n at_o the_o cardinal_n deny_v yea_o at_o all_o cardinal_n and_o jesuit_n for_o their_o presumption_n in_o their_o own_o innocence_n he_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v place_n for_o mercy_n in_o god_n judgement_n which_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v be_v so_o absurd_a to_o deny_v and_o then_o he_o allege_v certain_a place_n of_o s._n gregory_n and_o s._n bernard_n to_o prove_v that_o our_o best_a work_n be_v impure_a which_o place_n as_o also_o all_o the_o rest_n that_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o cite_v for_o that_o purpose_n be_v full_o answer_v in_o cardinal_n beauties_n controversy_n 21._o whereto_o i_o remit_v he_o for_o that_o point_n but_o in_o the_o end_n after_o all_o his_o rave_v it_o seem_v he_o be_v somewhat_o come_v to_o himself_o acknowledge_v as_o it_o 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holy_a and_o ancient_a father_n to_o which_o purpose_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o you_o may_v remember_v that_o in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n i_o show_v evident_o how_o he_o abuse_v belie_v and_o falsify_v s._n ambrose_n s._n augustine_n and_o s._n cyrill_n as_o that_o he_o corrupt_v 6._o s._n ambrose_n his_o text_n add_v certain_a word_n thereto_o and_o belie_v s._n 25._o augustine_n and_o s._n cyril_n affirm_v they_o to_o teach_v that_o s._n peter_n lose_v his_o apostleship_n by_o his_o fall_n whereas_o s._n augustine_n have_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o that_o purpose_n in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o m._n andrews_n and_o teach_v the_o quite_o contrary_a else_o where_o and_o though_o s._n cyril_n have_v somewhat_o concern_v that_o matter_n yet_o it_o be_v far_o otherwise_o then_o m._n andrews_n suggest_v as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o place_n itself_o which_o i_o have_v lay_v down_o at_o large_a in_o the_o first_o 26.27_o chapter_n and_o therefore_o i_o forbear_v 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