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if_o indeed_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o but_o our_o discourser_n not_o satisfy_v with_o this_o tell_v we_o a_o story_n p._n 12._o that_o the_o heathen_a greek_n have_v take_v some_o servant_n of_o the_o christian_a catechumeni_fw-la urge_v they_o by_o violence_n to_o tell_v they_o some_o secret_n of_o the_o christian_n who_o confess_v that_o they_o have_v hear_v from_o their_o master_n that_o the_o divine_a communion_n be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o they_o i._n e._n the_o catechumeni_fw-la think_v that_o it_o be_v real_o flesh_n and_o blood_n declare_v as_o much_o to_o the_o greek_n and_o yet_o our_o discourser_n in_o p._n 35._o will_v not_o admit_v that_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v ever_o object_v by_o the_o heathen_n to_o the_o christian_n although_o '_o by_o violence_n the_o christian_n themselves_o confess_v it_o what_o a_o bold_a conceit_a discourser_n be_v this_o who_o whilst_o he_o manifest_o confute_v himself_o think_v his_o adversary_n so_o 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and_o here_o i_o think_v our_o discourser_n will_v have_v end_v his_o dire_a wrath_n against_o transubstantiation_n but_o to_o be_v yet_o more_o secure_a and_o with_o good_a reason_n too_o that_o it_o may_v never_o rise_v up_o in_o judgement_n against_o he_o he_o come_v back_o again_o and_o in_o p._n 37._o give_v it_o four_o wound_n more_o for_o the_o absurdity_n of_o its_o doctrine_n and_o these_o be_v perform_v by_o way_n of_o four_o very_a considerable_a question_n as_o first_o p._n 38._o whether_o this_o doctrine_n do_v not_o contradict_v his_o sense_n second_o whether_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o his_o sense_n three_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o certainty_n of_o his_o sense_n and_o last_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o evidence_n of_o his_o sense_n now_o because_o to_o i_o these_o retail_v question_n seem_v to_o import_v much_o the_o same_o thing_n i_o will_v take_v the_o liberty_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o a_o speedy_a conclusion_n to_o give_v my_o 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