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A64811 Christ's school consisting of four classes of Christians : I. Babes, II. Little children, III. Young men, IV. Fathers : with their several characteristical differences and attainments : also the doctrines proper to be taught to each of them : being the substance of many sermons preach'd many years ago in Southwark / by Ralph Venning. Venning, Ralph, 1621?-1674. 1675 (1675) Wing V201; ESTC R22310 205,352 390

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not be any gradual Apostasie in any Saints as there was in them of the Church of Ephesus Revel 2. or any standing as 't were at a stay as it seems to be with them Heb. 5. So that their measure is to be taken by their attainments and proficiency not by their years See Wisd 4.8 9. for though with the ancient there usually is wisdom yet gray hairs are not always wise which made Elihu speak as he did Job 32.7 9. The wise are always old but the old are not always wise 't is not how long they have stood or how many years they have been in Christ but their injoyments experiences proficiency and fruitfulness that denominates one above another some may be in Christ before others who yet may be out-grown by others that came in long after them as most of the elder Disciples were out-grown by Paul a younger Brother a Post-hume 1 Cor. 15.8 9 10. one born out of due time as he speaks of himself who yet labour'd more abundantly than they all so many that are last shall be first Some that are young for years may be Fathers for experiences and attainments when others that are old and aged as to time may be but young and raw in knowledge and practice Some are but children when they are old and others may be men when they are but young as Timothy was who knew the Scriptures from the cradle and from the breast as 't were or from a child Some are but like David a youth and stripling and yet of more true valor and worth than Goliah who was a man of war from his youth that I may speak by allusion The Apostle tells us of some that for their time if that had been the measure might have been Teachers of others might have attained to a great degree but were such Punies and Babes that they needed to learn the A. B. C. of Religion they were dull of hearing had very weak stomachs and an ill digestion Heb. 5. From whence this clearly and roundly follows that a man many men may be of long standing in Christ may be old Fathers for years and yet be but Babes for understanding and ability to digest the strong meat of the Gospel Whereas other men that are but Babes for time but newly-new-born may be men in Christ as Paul was in a little time according to that phrase of his 2 Cor. 12.2 if I may so apply it and out of the mouths of such for their time but Babes and Sucklings there may be more perfect praise than from elder Persons men of many years standing 'T is true gray hairs found in a way of righteousness are a Crown of glory and usually the elder the wine is the better and as to many of Gods Saints their works have been more at last than at first and their latter end better than their beginning Father Abraham Father Job Father Moses Father Paul and some others were Fathers not only for age but grace in Act. 21.16 there is mention made of one Mnason an old Disciple who was another Gaius an entertainer of the Apostles and Saints but he is not called an old Disciple meerly as I suppose for his years or age but that he was as much a Disciple as he was old from his new birth his Discipleship saith and obedience ran along and kept pace with his age that as he grew in years so be he did in grace he was an old Disciple a good proficient in the School of Christ 'T was a great commendation to Andronicus and Junia not only that they were in Christ before Paul but that they were of note eminent signal and of renown viz. for their religion Rom. 16.7 Glorious because gracious things are spoken of old Zacharie and Elizabeth Luk. 1.6 7. And 't was the great praise of the Church of Thyatira that her last works were more than her first But though it were thus with some 't was not so with all that were of equal age and standing with these for some were ever learning and learnt but little ever doing yet did but little the widows mite was more than theirs that cast in much Philadelphia that had but little strength did effectually do more than Ephesus of whom greater things are spoken Heb. 3.8 with ch 2.2 3. Every man in Christ is not a man in Christ Jesus but a child it may be or perhaps but a Babe In this Text of Johns here were Children that were Fathers Children that were young Men and Children that were but Children and some others are but Babes for under these four heads all are contained To clear this a little more let us consider each Verse a part and briefly vers 12. I write to you little Children 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is not the same word we render little children Vers 13. that is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but this word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ver 12. is common to them all to Fathers to young men and to children and so Mr. Cotton understands it on Verse 12. and Grotius so doth Zanchie nomine 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. e. filiorum omnes veri Christiani quòd per ministerium Apostolorum regeniti sint Christo Deo In or under this name are comprehended all true Christians because by the Ministry of the Apostles they were begotten or born again to Christ and to God so again on Verse 13. N●m Commune omnibus Christianis nomen 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 'T is a name common to all Christians So that this word notes not any distinct state as the other three do viz. Fathers Young-men and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 little Children all which words the Apostle useth but this once and that in this distribution except 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 once more Verse 18. but the other viz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he useth seven or eight times in common to them all and accordingly the priviledge annexed forgiveness of sins is in common to them all to the youngest as well as the eldest to the Child and Babe as well as to the Young man and Father-Saint though it be not known by nor manifested to all alike If it should be here inquired why the Apostle useth the diminutive so often and speaks to them as not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Children but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 little Children I Answer that it may be an allusion to the manner and custom of the Jewish Teachers which was to call their Scholars Ketamin little ones yet withal it notes with what tenderness he loved them and how dear they were unto him as having begotten them by the preaching of the Gospel as Paul did the Corinthians whom he calls beloved S●ns 1 Cor. 4.14 15. and the Galatians whom he calls by this name little Children Gal. 4.19 and as our Saviour did his Disciples John 13.33 in conformity to whom John who was the Beloved and loving Disciple useth this word But I proceed to Verse 13 14.
Christ's School Consisting of FOUR CLASSES OF CHRISTIANS I. Babes II. Little Children III. Young Men IV. Fathers WITH Their several Characteristical differences and attainments also the Doctrines proper to be taught to each of them Being the Substance of many Sermons Preach'd many Years ago in Southwark By Ralph Venning 1 Cor. 3.1 And I Brethren could not speak unto you as unto spiritual but as unto carnal as unto Babes in Christ 1 Joh. 2.13 I write unto you Fathers because ye have known him that is from the beginning I write unto you Young men because ye have overcome the wicked one I write unto you Little Children because ye have known the Father London Printed for John Hancock Senior and Junior at the Sign of the three Bibles in Popes-head Ally over against the Royal Exchange in Cornhill 1675. Reader THough that which I here present thee with may look like a Novelty yet I hope it will appear to be a truth of great Antiquity for though I confess I have not met with any that have treated thus distinctly of the several Ranks and Degrees of Saints yet I cannot say but I was led to the consideration thereof by persons both Antient and Modern of great name and worth who have now and then hinted that in their writings which gave me occasion to make a more full inquiry into this thing and accordingly to Preach upon it many years ago in Southwark and I bless God not without good acceptation and success as I have not a little cause to presume As to the three first States I have spoken largely but very little of the last viz. of Fathers not willing to venture beyond my line or measure only hinting in General what may be gather'd from the Scripture Concerning them what I have said I submit to the judgement of my Elders and betters who I hope will find me moderate and modest in my Assertions and that they are consonant to the analogy of Faith and agreeable to the ●enor of Scripture both truths and expressions I shall say nothing more of it for I hope it will speak for it self only my desires to God are that it may be blest to every Reader for their either Conversion or Edification Which Prayer if God please to grant 't will be matter of thanksgiving as to them so to me also who am their Servant in and for Christ Jesus Ralph Venning This following Advertisement was intended as an Epistle to the Reader before the Author 's own was found THis Treatise as it is now published was so left by the worthy Author when he went to his rest The excellency and usefulness of it will evidence it self best in the perusal thereof It hath this preheminence beyond many of the practical Discourses that have of late passed the Press that its design is singular and not managed at lest to such an enlargement by any before it The several Degrees and Estates of Christians through which they pass up to the measure and stature of the fulness of Christ are here insisted on and with great experience according to the rule of Faith explicated with perspicuity The greatest part of the Discourse is spent upon those that make up the greatest part of true Christians viz. the weak ones or Babes wherein will be found things of a comfortable concernment and conducing very much to the establishing of them and promoting their advance to a greater degree of grace till they come to the assurance of the Love of God by the witness of the Spirit which the Children enjoy What is laid down in reference to the witness of the Spirit though some may differ in their conceptions from it yet such is the boundary and cautions here annexed to this particular by the Author against delusions that no person will have a reasonable ground to make any exceptions What is performed in the handling of the temptations which attend the Young men such as have attained to a strength of grace whereby they are made conformable to Christ who was in all things tempted as we are yet without sin will be of great encouragement to many in their present warfare As to the last Estate of Christians viz. of Fathers the Author hath discoursed very little who though those that were acquainted with him might judge him to have attained to that degree of Christianty which lies in the highest experience of the mysteries of the Gospel yet he through modesty leaves that for others to supply and make up And so you have the first remains of that good man who was serviceable to Christ in his Generation The spiritual advantage of Christians is all that is aimed at in the publication thereof and accordingly is recommended to them by the Authors very good friends James Barron John Collins Christ's School Consisting of Babes Children Young-Men and Fathers I. The INTRODUCTION Where the general design and scope of the Treatise is laid down asserted cleared and applied THat there are degrees of grace and consequently that there are Believers Christians or Saints of several sizes and degrees is granted by all but how many sorts there are and whether they are to be ranked into several and distinct classes ranks orders forms or degrees as different States seems not to be so clear to some pious and learned men which yet with submission I humbly offer and hope to evince and demonstrate by the Scriptures light which is the light of the Spirit by whom they were indited That there are Lambs and Sheep John 21.15 16 17. That there are strong and weak Rom. 15.1 That there are spiritual and Babes 1 Cor. 3.1 Or perfect and Babes as 't is Hebr. 5.13 14. The Scriptures quoted do undeniably assert and experience confirms it and why there may not be more than two sorts I can see no reason to dis-believe but there seems to me a great deal of reason for the belief of it The Apostle John naming three Fathers Young men and Children and the Apostle Paul names a fourth viz. Babes for though they be as carnal yet they are in Christ 1 Cor. 3.1 but a degree below Children as I think to make apparent in the following discourses To clear the way I shall examine this Text 1 John 2.12 13 14. Which whether it denote and assert distinct Classes or kinds of Saints is yet the question But I hope to evince that these are three distinct ranks and slates of Saints not with reference to their natural years Partitur hic in sequeatibus Christianus ia Classes tres Puerorum Adolescentum Scuun quae discrimina non secundum aetatem sed secundum gradus diverso tjus prosectus qui in Coristo est intelligi d●b●t Grot. in Loc. or the time of their standing as to conversion and profession but with reference to their proper and peculiar attainments whether elder or younger for years and standing Indeed the Scripture doth not measure them by that but by this rule or else there could
that he loved us first Vers 19. with Chap. 3.24 The Scripture records them as special favourites who were converted and did turn to God when they were young God remembers the kindness of Israels youth and the love of espousals which was while they were young and went after him in the Wilderness Jer. 2.2 and then had they wonderful discoveries of his love Not to mention Abel Joseph was very gracious and tender-hearted for he could not bear with the wickedness of his Brethren even then when he was but seventeen years old Gen. 37.2 and presently hereupon God appeared to him as to Solomon twice Vers 4. and 9. Samuel ministred to the Lord while yet a very Child for years 1 Sam. 2.18 and 3.1 to him did the Lord appear Vers 4. and though at first he understood not the voice and Word of the Lord Vers 7. yet soon after he did And Samuel grew and the Lord was with him Vers 19. Josiah was well given as we say and very good at sixteen years of age he began to raign at eight years old 2 Chron. 34.1 and in the eighth year of his reign which was the sixteenth of his age while he was yet young as the Text remarques it he began to seek after the God of his Father David and in the twelfth year when twenty years old he began to purge Judah and Jerusalem Vers 3 c. Now how dear he was to God and what a manifestation of love he had you may see Vers 26 28. I might instance in many more as David Moses Daniel the three young men in Daniel Timothy c. But this shall suffice to have shewn that God doth usually and signally manifest his love to them that are Godly betimes while they are yet young This lays a great obligation upon and gives great incouragement to persons to come in betime to remember c. Eccles 12.1 SECT 3. A Continuation 2. GOD hath been pleased to pick out such to shew his fatherly love to as have lain under deep humiliations for sinning against God though it have not been of long continuance and which it would have been had not he made himself known as their Father i. e. loving of them When the Prodigal came to this that he was pincht with the sense of having sinned against his Father as well as felt the sad effects of it in being tantum non almost dead the Father runs to meet him and falls on his neck and kisseth him thus he knew the Father and had assurance of his Love When the Spouse had undergone an hard winter of humiliation and hid her self in the clefts and secret places as being ashamed to lift up her face or voice to God she then hears the joyful sound Rise up my Love my fair one my Dove and come away Cant. 2.10 15. and in the next sixteenth Verse she concludes as one that had assurance My beloved is mine and I am his 'T is said of Manasseh though he had been desperately wicked yet that when he was in affliction he besought the Lord and humbled himself greatly before the God of his Fathers 2 Chron. 33.12 and 't is presently added in the 13th Verse that God heard his supplication c. Then and then Manasseh knew that the Lord he was God viz. gracious and forgiving sins David no sooner confest his sin as against God he doubles it Against thee against thee Psal 51.4 but God forgave him and told him of it too Psal 32.5 with 2 Sam. 12.13 see more to this purpose in Isa 57.15 and 66.2 Jer. 31.20 all which doth confirm what David said in this case Psal 51.17 Abroken and contrite heart O God thou wilt not despise which is a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a diminutive expression but full of signification for 't is as much as if he had said thou wilt cherish it revive it and make it glad with the joy of thy Salvation This lays a great obligation upon persons what to be and gives them great incouragements when they are though they be greatly and deeply humbled An Objection Oh alas for me saith some poor soul I have been under humiliations a long time sin hath cost me dear my bones as David said yea and mine heart have even broken with sighs and groans and I am still watering my Couch with my tears yea they are my drink and yet I cannot obtain a smile not a good word nor a good look from God but he seems to call me Dog and cast me off wo is me Answer But poor soul remember 1. What I newly said that God is not bound to make himself known as a Father to thee he will not be commanded into this condescension nor must thou think to bribe and compound with him by Prayers and Tears 2. Remember that though God have taken vengeance on some mens sins yet he hath forgiven them Psal 99 8. and who knows but he may deal so with thee and not turn thee into Hell nor deal with thee as thine iniquity deserves though he make thee know much and yet much more sorrow and smart 3. Consider that perhaps thine humiliation hath been hitherto but legal and selfish that thou hast been more concern'd that God was displeased with thee than that he was displeased by thee that thy Tears have been more for the shame and pain than for the sinfulness of sin as against God if so be humbled for this also and in due time he will exalt thee to a better condition or save thee at last with a notwithstanding 3. God doth usually manifest himself and his love as a Father to them that hunger and thirst after and are greatly in love with his Son Jesus Christ in him God is well pleased and declared from Heaven That he was his beloved Son and he is pleased to do the like for them that love his Son God will that we honour the Son as we do the Father Joh. 5.23 Now him that honoureth me and consequently that honoureth my Son I will honour saith the Lord. What honour will God confer upon such viz. they shall be called not only be but be called manifested and declared to be the Children of God and behold what manner of love this is 1 Joh. 3.1 When the Spouse was sick of love she was much made of and to Mary who loved much there was much forgiven and special manifestations of love made unto her Our Saviour tells his Disciples that the Father loved them for this very reason because they loved him and that shortly they should have clear and plain manifestations of the Father Joh. 16.25 27. according to what he promiseth to all that love him Joh. 14.21 23. 4. God hath promised to be known as a Father to them that do separate from and are not unequally yoked with unbelievers and that do not touch the unclean thing 2 Cor. 6.14 17 18. which is more as to manifestation love and joy than to be known to us as our God