now auouch to be only the sacred Scriptures of the old and new Testament Wherefore we plainly conclude the Scripture is most necessarie The Aduersaries oppose themselues against this assertion as against the former and they denie that the scripture is simply necessarie it is necessary say they that is it is profitable or commodious for the well being of a Church but is not so necessarie for the being nor no such thing as without which the Church can haue no being And for this cause do these men denie the necessitie of the Scripture that they may open the doore to their authoritie and traditions that is to their owne dreames which they say be simply necessary and preferre them before the scripture They are easily answered by the rules before set downe For if by scripture they vnderstand the substance of the scripture it cannot be denied that the scripture is simply necessarie but if they vnderstand not the substance onely but also the verie writing in this respect also we haue shewed it by cleere demonstratiō that the scripture is simply necessarie for that it is vnto vs in place of y e liuely voice of God himselfe Wherfore their assertion is false howsoeuer they take this word Scripture either in this sense or the other But they say the Church wanted the scripture neere two thousand yeares all which time religion was preserued by tradition only Therefore the Scripture is not simply necessarie I answer If you vnderstand by Scripture the verie substance of the couenant then your argument followeth not for the substance of the scripture was in those verie traditions whereby the Church was edified and kept But if by this word ye vnderstand the verie writing then I grant the scripture was not extant so manie yeares and I say that it was not then necessarie for that then the liuely voice of God it selfe was heard If they conclude that because it was not then necessarie therefore it is not now necessarie or that it was not necessarie after that God had commanded it and after that it began to be extant surely the consequence is very euill for as ages and times haue changed so diuers formes of reuelation were necessarie Or we may more briefly set downe this controuersie in this forme THe scripture is necessarie not onely for the well-being as Popish Schoole-men speake but also for the being of the Church Et hactenus est simplex necessitas And this necessitie is in respect of time only for there was not a necessitie of the scripture in all ages I vnderstand The word written not necessary in all ages Heb. 1. 1. 2. by the word Scripture not onely the substance of the written word but also the manner or forme of reuelation but this simple necessitie must bee auouched of the substance and forme of reuelation in diuers respects For the scripture as touching the substance of it was necessarie to the Church in all ages but in respect of the manner of reuealing the same it was necessarie for a certaine time only to wit vntill it seemed good vnto Almightie God to teach his church by the scripture ARG. 1. For the Lord God had not giuen his Church the Scripture if he had not thought it necessarie euū for the being of his Church ARG. 2. The liuely voice of God was necessarie in the time appointed for it ergo the Scripture also is necessary in the time the Lord hath decreed for it for there is but one and the same reason of both ARG. 3. It is necessarie that Gods will be reuealed and communicated to the Church at all times in one forme or other either by Gods own liuely voice or by writing or by both but now the liuely voice of God hath ceased therefore now the word written is necessarie The aduersaries deny this absolute necessitie moued hereunto with these arguments following First from Adam to Moses there was no Scripture Ergo. I answer the Lord God thought it not necessarie for all that time But when as the Lord himselfe began to write and that the 2. Pet. 1. 18. 19. 21. holy men of God were acted and moued by the holie Ghost first Prophets then Apostles then the Scripture began to be necessarie euen simply necessary ARG. 2. From Moses vnto Christ Iob and his friends both beleeued and were saued without the Scripture I answer It is most like these also read the scriptures as may appeare by the Eunuches story Act. 8. Next I answer that so manie as were called without the visible Church God dealt with them in an extraordinary manner ARG. 3. They did more attend the traditions of the Fathers then the written word euen in the second age I answer this is false ARG. 4. In the third age there was no scripture of the new Testament extant for a long season Ergo. I answer the Apostolicall scripture beganne not long after Christ Next all that time I grant it was not necessarie but when the Apostles were dead and when their liuelie voice ceased then began it to be necessary CHAP. XIIII Of the sixt propertie of the Scripture and the eight controuersie THE Scripture is perfect containing in it all things necessarie for faith and manners not onely sufficiently but also abundantly for this is the perfection which heere wee doe auouch The sense then of the Proposition is this This kind of reuelation containes all things c. The proofe is this Argument 1. The liuely voice of God contained all articles or instructions concerning faith and manners Ergo so doth the Scripture The reason of the argument is euident for that nothing in respect of substance was spoken by that liuely voice which is not recorded in the Scripture ARG. 2. If the Scripture contained not all things necessarie perfectly then euill were the condition of our Church and of our time which heareth not the liuely voice of anie man speaking by diuine inspiration nor of any prophet or Apostle ARG. 3. The religious and such as be taught of God haue an holy experience of the sufficiencie of the Scriptures and of the fulnesse of it Adde to these arguments these diuine testimonies Deut. 4. Ye shall not ad to the word that I speake c. Reuel 22. If anie shall adde to these things God shall Vers 18. adde vnto him the plagues which are written in this booke Albeit these sayings are to bee vnderstood properly of particular books yet the same reason serues for all books of the canonicall scripture and surely the reason binds more strongly for if we may not ad to particular books how much lesse is it lawfull to adde to the whole Canon Prou. 30. Thou shalt ad nothing to his words This seemes to be vnderstood of the whole Scripture Matth. 28. Teaching to obserue all things which I commanded you Gal. 1. 8. If we or an Angell from heauen shall preach vnto you another Gospel or otherwise then that which we haue preached vnto you
time after this he added the writings of the Apostles And when as the mystery of our saluation was fully reuealed by that liuely voice first and then that full reuelation was written euer since there hath beene no more vse of the liuely voice of any extraordinarie Prophet or Apostle But the Scriptures written first by the Prophets and after by the Apostles remained only without any liuely voice which could not erre Q. Where must wee begin to count the third age of the Church A. Not so much from the comming of Christ and the sending of his Apostles to all nations as from that time when the Apostles ceased to speake with liuely voice aswel to the Iewes as to the Gentiles for euen then the Church catholick came to mans estate full growth and then the Church began to vnderstand and to learne the wil of God by the written word as being a more accurate and perfect manner of reuelation The time then which was frō the cōming of Christ vntil the death of the Apostles was as it were a passage from the middle age of the church vnto the ful growth ripenes of the same Q. I vnderstand what you say cōcerning the causes of additiō of the written word to the liuely voice of the seuerall ages of the Church now I would haue you speake some thing concerning the scripture or of the writing of Gods word A. I will do so Q. What then call you writing or Scripture A. I call scripture or writing the second kind of reuelation whereby God either by himselfe or by the meanes of men extraordinarily reuealed those things which already had beene deliuered by liuely voice before to wit in that first kind of reuelation Q. Who then were they who euer since the beginning haue written A. First God himselfe next men Moses the Prophets and the Apostles Q. This kind of reuelation which was by writing was it not subiect to error like as that kind which was by a liuely voice A. No truly for concerning that which God himselfe did write there is no question and touching men they were so extraordinarily inspired and gouerned by the spirit of God that in writing they could not erre at all Q. When began it then to be written A. In Moses time Q. How long did the word written continue in the Church A. The scripture or the act of writing continued from Moses euen to the Apostles all which time there was almost no age wherein extraordinarily some one was not stirred vp who in deliuering the doctrine of truth by writing could not erre Q. You thinke otherwise of the scripture it selfe then of the act of writing A. I do so for the scripture it self or that which is now written by Moses the Prophets and Apostles yet continues in the Church and shall continue vnto the second comming of Christ Q. Was there any intermission of writing the word from Moses vnto the Apostles A. There was for it appeareth in all that time which was frō Malachy to Iohn the Baptist none was stirred vp either Prophet or writer inspired by God for the books of the Machabees be not giuen by inspiration as we shal shew hereafter Q. You said that writing continued in the Church vntil the time of the Apostles ought it not then to continue euen vnto the end A. Like as since the Apostles time there is no liuely voice heard in the Church which can be said to be so goned by the holy Ghost that it can not erre at all So since the Apostles nothing is written in the church which may worthily be called or said to be giuen by inspiration Q. What then do you think of so many writings of godly and learned men which haue been published since the times of the Apostles from time to time to the great good and profit of the Church A. Verely I thinke of the writings of Pastors and Doctors in the Church as I think of their preaching to wit that both be subiect to errour and neither is so gouerned by the holy Ghost but that in deliuering the truth of God they may erre Q. It seemeth then that the condition of the Church which is since the time of the Apostles is not so good as hauing neither the liuely voice as is afore said nor the writings as now you speak of those very mē who in deliuering the truth cannot erre A. It hath the scriptures of the prophets and Apostles which as pertaining to the substance of reuelation is full and as touching the kind forme of reuelation it is giuē by inspiration not subiect to error out of the which scripture whosoeuer do not learne all things which are necessary to faith and saluation assuredly such would not receiue from the mouth of God himself openly speaking in an audible and intelligible voice the doctrine and instructon of faith and saluation Q. Wherefore did the Lord so continue to record his will by The cause of the continuance of writing Gods word writing in the Church all that time which was from Moses to the Apostles A. There are the same causes of the continuance thereof as are of the addition of the liuely voice vnto writing For both the condition of the church and the measure of reuelation required the same Q. Why the condition of the Church A. Because the church continually increased and grew as in number so in knowledge Q. What then A. The greater number and riper knowledge do require this that the word be written Q. Why the measure of reuelation A. Because the reuelation of the doctrine of saluation was from time to time made more cleare and manifest euen vnto the times of Christ of his Apostles at which time it was in the end compleate and perfected For it was meete that euery reuelation manifested more cleerely fully should be recorded in writing to this end that it might be surely kept and deliuered to posterities Q. Can ye gather by these things the vse of the continuance The vse of writing of scripture in the Church of God A. Yea truly Q. What is then the vse of it A. To passe by the conseruation of the purity of doctrine the first vse was in respect of the Church for the instructiō thereof as being now in place more ample large in knowledge more perfect Secondly it was in respect of the reuelation of the doctrine it selfe that it might cōprehend and keepe it more fully and cleerely Q. By this vse of scripture or writing which you giue it seemes that this kind of reuelation which is by writing is somewhat more perfect high as that which is best agreeing fitting to persons and things that are more perfect A. It is euen so Q. Thus far then forwriting or scripture now I would haue you declare something vnto me concerning the subiect of this writing of the matter it selfe which is written A. As touching the substance the very same is
vnto vs no lesse certaine and firme then if we heard God himselfe speake or did behold and reade the verie mind of God yea the very diuine oracles written in Gods owne breast but now we haue not the liuely voice of God now we see not the secret mind of God therefore it must follow that we haue something to supply the want of the liuely voice of God euen meanes to reueale vnto vs the secret mind of God and nothing can do this but the sacred Scripture therefore Gods holy written word is and must be vnto vs as the verie voice and as the verie mind or wil of God himselfe manifested vnto vs. The fourth reason The Scripture containes all those things which God hath spoken in elder ages and what God himselfe hath decreed in his secret counsell so farre as is meete for vs to know concerning our life and saluation Ergo c. Thus far of the immediate word of God The mediate voice of God we call the voice of the holy and true Church of God for albeit men speake yet the word spoken is the word of God himselfe Here the aduersaries rise vp and contend that the voice of the Church must haue the priority of excellencie and that it supplieth the want of Gods liuely voice and the manifestation of his mind rather or better then the Scripture for say they the voice of the Church is a Popish Obiection cōcerning the testimonie and the authority of the Church before the Scripture Scripture written not with the penne of any Scribe but by Gods owne finger in the heart of the Church therefore the voice or testimonie of the Church ought to bee accounted the principall voice of God For it is a liuely voice proceedings from the liuing heart of the Church wherein God hath ingrauen all truth with the finger of his owne Spirit whereas the Scriptures of the Prophets and Apostles albeit they were deliuered and spoken by God himselfe yet they were not written by Gods owne hand but by the Prophets and Apostles which were the pen-men Again they were not written in y e liuing hearts of men but in papers and books or tables Hence therefore it followeth that this scripture which is found in the heart of the Church is the principall Scripture of God and that the voice of the holy Church is that most excellent voice of God ought to be vnto vs as the immediate voice of God in steed of the secret counsel of God I answer true it is the testimonie of the Church is a liuely voice proceeding from a liuing heart sanctified by the holy ghost for we speake of the true Church But first I say that the only Scripture prophetical and apostolical is to be accounted that Scripture which was written by Gods owne finger and that immediate word of God Next I say that the heart of the Church is taught and sanctified by the Spirit of the Scripture and that the Scripture which is in the heart of the Church is nothing els but a certain transcript that so I may speak or a copy which the holy Ghost hath written in our hearts according to that ancient and authenticall copie which is the holy Scripture For the holy Ghost teacheth the Church nothing now but that which is written and doth by the scripture after a sort beget the Church the Scripture is the mother the Church is the daughter the Scripture is the mistresse the Church is the scholler Thirdly I adde that the knowledge of the truth which is in the heart of the Church by means of the scripture is not so perfect nor so absolute as is the holy Scripture And lastly I say that the Church being inlightened and renewed but in part may erre from the truth euen in the greatest matter of waight and that it doth erre so often as it forsakes the canon and rule of the sacred Scripture Their former assertion being thus cast downe it is euident that the voice of the Church I vnderstand here the true church only not that whoorish church of Rome the voice of the Church I say is not that primarie and most excellent word of God nor ought to be vnto vs in steed of the liuely and immediate voice of God nor to be reputed for Gods minde and counsell but this prerogatiue is due only to the sacred Scripture I ad further that if thou doest first not so much respect the truth it selfe which the Church speaketh as the instruments of the speech vttered which are men next if ye compare the voice of the Church speaking with the sacred Scripture it selfe it doth not deserue at all to be called by the name of Gods word but may more properlie be called the worde and testimony of man For Christ himselfe calles that testimonie which Iohn the Baptist gaue of him the testimony of man I receiue not saith he or desire not the testimnoie of man Ioh. 5. 34. Be it so that the testimonie of the Church be true agreeable to the holy scripture notwithstanding it is truly called an humane testimonie whether yee respect the men which speake or compare their testimonie with that which doth proceed from the mouth of God and Christ himselfe But it may be replyed that the very Apostles and Prophets which writte and spake all these things which we haue in the Scriptures were men in like manner therefore all the Scriptures are but an humane testimonie I answere that I denie not all is obiected if we were to esteeme the words or writings of an Apostle or Prophet as they are instruments and Ministers or if this were to be compared with the very liuely voice of God and Christ himselfe For in respect of the instruments if we compare the words or writings of these men with the words and writings of God himselfe theirs I say must come after and giue place vnto this and must beare the name of an humane testimonie for so the testimony of Iohn Baptist himselfe as being an instrument in comparison of Christ the Lord of life was called the record of man Wherefore when we auouch that the Propheticall and Apostolicall Scripture is the immediate testimonie of God himselfe we make no comparison with the liuelie voice of God himselfe neither doe we so much respect what Organs the Holy-Ghost vsed to set forth the Scriptures but we consider the matter it selfe and the diuine oracles which be written and we ponder in what estimation God himselfe will haue vs to accept the sacred Scripture not as the writings and sayings of men but as the writings and words of God himselfe And we consider this also as in a comparison made with the Church For to vse that comparison againe the voice of the Scripture is Gods owne voice but the voice of the Church of Christ is called an humane testimonie as the word or writing of a Prophet or an Apostle compared with the liuely voice of God is called the
and to vs most manifest it followeth according to their iudgement that it yeelds light vnto the Scripture not only in respect of vs but also in respect of the Scripture it selfe yet is it in verity but a certaine secondary Scripture and a certaine secondary voice For as they auouch it the voice of the Church is as Gods owne voice sounding from heauen seruing to confirme the voice of the Scripture which now is but mans voice only and to ratifie and make authenticall the very Scripture as being written but by certaine Scribes and published onely by the hands of men This must bee the consequent of their principles or conclusion of their premisses albeit other men be of another iudgment As for our selues like as we denie the conclusion which they inferre vpon the former principles so we reiect also their very principles For we denie refuse their first ground to wit that the voice of the Church is to be accounted the liuely voice of God himselfe and that the Scripture written in the heart of the Church is to be accounted for that scripture which was written by the very finger of God And we affirme that the only propheticall and apostolical scripture is to be esteemed as the liuely voice of God we auouch it I say that this Propheticall and Apostolicall scripture only serueth vs in steed of that scripture which was written by Gods owne finger We adde also that the sacred Scripture is vnto vs a booke of reuelation of those diuine mysteries which were hidden in Gods owne breast from eternitie for this is the very will of God that we attend on him speaking in the scripture as it were in his owne liuely voice They haue saith he Moses and the Prophets Luk. 16. vers 29. that is the bookes of Moses and the prophets And God will not haue this scripture in no lesse account then that scripture which hee wrote in times past with his owne finger in tables of stone The voice of the Church I meane the true Church not the lying papisticall synagogue is but as the voice of the handmaide or as the voice of a crier which is to publish and to proclaime that voice of God full of excellencie speaking in the scripture But the scripture in the heart of the Church that is the Maximes of Gods truth written in the hearts of the faithfull they be nothing els but a certaine secundarie scripture taken out by the holy ghost out of that primarie and most sacred scripture and ingrauen in the minds of men For how much think you of that ful measure of the Propheticall Apostolicall scripture is there taken forth and ingrauen in our minds I say that if all mens hearts were bound together yet all they could not comprehend all those things fully and perfectly which be recorded in the Propheticall and Apostolicall scriptures For the catholicke Church so long as it is conuersant on the earth is not capable of al that light which shineth in the sacred scriptures of y e apostles the prophets Let their first principle be thus beaten downe and their Corolatie or second conclusion to wit that the voice of the Church is most manifest both in it selfe and vnto vs will fall to the ground of it owne accord and so both principles being shaken their conclusion which they inferre is of no strength to stand but must fall away CHAP. IX Of the first proprietie of the sacred Scripture WE are now to proceed and to make it manifest that the holy scripture is of greatest antiquitie and this is the first proprietie The 1. propriety of the scripture most ancient before ascribed to the Scripture Here first we be to find out the diuers acceptations of this word Scripture This word Scripture may be taken either for the matter onely and Acceptation of the word scripture the very substance which is contained in the words and letters or not only for the matter and substance but also for the verie writing it selfe or the forme wherein that substance is expressed and set before vs. Now if by this word Scripture ye vnderstand the verie substance it selfe it is without all controuersie that the Scripture is most ancient because it is the substance of those diuine oracles which not only Patriarches and Prophets haue spoken but also God himselfe vttered which things also were hidden in Gods mind from eternitie But if yee vnderstand by this word not onely the substance but the very writing and in this respect also the scripture may be said to be most ancient For as touching the Propheticall and Apostolicall scriptures in respect also of the writing and manner of reuealing of them as wee said often before it is Gods will that we so esteeme them not onely as the liuely voice of the Prophets and Apostles nor onely as the liuely voice of God himselfe or as a booke written with his owne hand as the Decalogue was set downe with his owne finger in tables of stone but also that we so accept them as the very mysteries and if I may so speake as the verie diuine notions which were ingrauen in Gods owne mind from eternitie To cleare this point a little The veritie kept secret in Gods mind from eternitie was in time manifested manie wayes or in diuers formes for it was reuealed partly by the liuely voice of God himself partly by the voice of the Patriarches Prophets and Apostles to passe by Angels in silence and partly also by the scripture which was written by the Prophets and Apostles The liuely and immediate voice of God did cease long since neither haue we that copie which God himselfe wrote the Patriarches How to esteem of the written word of God also the Prophets and y e Apostles haue ceased to speake the writings only of the Prophets and Apostles remaine to this day Wherefore this we hold as necessary vnto faith that we accept these writings or books first in steed of the liuely voice of the Prophets and Apostles 1 Next in place of the liuely voice of God himself 2 Thirdly of the Scripture written with Gods owne finger 3 Fourthly and lastly as that holy veritie and diuine mysteries 4 which are recorded in Gods owne breast which Oracles being simply without comparison of greatest antiquitie it is very manifest that the Propheticall and Apostolicall scripture is after a sort most ancient For what may be auouched of the liuely voice of God himselfe or of the Oracles of his mind the same in some respect may be said of the scripture supplying vnto vs their defect For Substance of the scripture simply most ancient if I may truly say in some sort the scripture is the liuely voice of God himselfe doe I not as truly speake also in like manner the scripture is most ancient for as much as the voice of God is most ancient But it shall suffice vs to commend the antiquitie of scripture to
answered by that which is before shewed For this ambignitie and flexiblenesse is not to be imputed to the scripture which is giuen of God by diuine inspiration and serueth vs in steede of Gods owne voice but must be ascribed either to the ignorance or malice or malapertnesse of men who either cannot apprehend the simple true sense of scripture or malitiouslie peruert and turne the same into a strange sense Here they obiect that the scripture is full of tropes allegories Ob. parables words of diuers significations amphibologicall sentences visions all which haue their ambiguity I answer that this matter may the better be cleered we are to looke a little more soundly into it The A. ambiguity which is contrarie vnto simplicity being in the words and not in the matter for the words are ambiguous and not the matter Let vs reduce all ambiguity 5. Principall heads which is in the words vnto 5. principall heads For first there bee simple or common words of diuers acceptations secondlie there bee tropicall or figuratiue words thirdly there be whole speeches or sentences which carry a doubtfull signification fourthly there be allegorical speeches consisting of the continuation of tropes fiftly there be also typicall words and sentences concerning types and figures Of all these this I say generally that in all such places the holy Ghost hath but one only simple sense and meaning For as touching words of diuers significations if any such words be found in scripture in the originals Hebrue and Greeke as that can not be otherwise but there must be such in the scriptures first I say that such words haue but one signification only in such places and that the holy Ghost purposeth and intendeth but one thing by them For the holy Ghost desireth not to vse any fallacion or sophistication Next I answer that wee may deprehend that one signification and that one plaine How to vnderstand a doubtfull worde Phrase or sentence in scripture meaning of the word we desire to finde either by the drift of the holy Ghost in that place or text where any such word is or by conference of other places of Scripture where the like worde is to be found or by other Scriptures expressing the same sense and matter in other words or by obseruation of Grammaticall accidents accents points or pricks and such like And where we find tropes and words borowed and drawn from their proper and natiue signification in any text of scripture I say that there such words are vsed by y e holy ghost purposely to expresse in a more significant and liuely manner but one sense and meaning As where it is saide this is my body by the Metonymie which is in the word body the spirit speaketh more significantly then if he had said This is a signe of my body For by that metonymicall phrase the holy Ghost plainly auoucheth the sacramentall vnion which is of the signe and of the thing signified Next I say if the trope seeme somewhat obscure and strange that ye may finde the signification of the same trope by a word of proper signification either in the same scripture or in some other scripture where the like trope may be found If ye meet in scripture with a sentence seeming ambiguous A sentence in scripture seeming ambiguous first be wel assured that Gods spirit doth not purposely speake doubtfully as sophisters do but hath euer one single and plaine meaning but men doe both giue and receiue an euill construction of the context either ignorantly or malitiously Next I say that other places of scripture do more cleerly set forth the selfe same matter Finally if you find allegories in scripture of them this I affirme that first they serue for illustratiō next that they haue but one signification or sense and the same is either manifest and needeth no further exposition or if it be obscure it is more cleerly expressed some where else in the scripture And as for scriptures concerning types I say of them also first that they haue but one signification and A typicall speech in scripture signify types only and not also the matters signified by them next that one very sense of the types is applyed to signify another thing that is the body it self for the types themselues cary in them the signification of the things signified and shadowed by the types and not the words themselues which are vsed to set forth the types for in that historie recorded Gal. 4. this name Sarah signifieth Abrahams wife that is the type only next the type signifieth the couenant that is the thing shadowed figured and signified by the type And thus farre of the third property and fift controuersie CHAP. XII Of the Fourth propertie and Sixt controuersie THis we say also cōcerning the sacred scripture that it is most effectuall most liuely and most vocall sounding to euery man an answer of all things necessarie vnto saluation The life which here I vnderstād is not any fleshly or carnal life as the life of man but that spirituall life as the life of God and by a liuely voice I meane a spirituall voice speaking not so much to the eare as to the minde of man For first if ye respect the substance of this diuine reuelation this which I auouch is without all controuersie For the scripture containes in it the word of God which is liuely powerfull c. Heb. 4. Next in respect of the forme of the reuelation thereof that is the very writing of God this is euident in like manner for it was giuen and written by diuine inspiration and whatsoeuer is of this kinde must necessarily be in it selfe both liuely and spirituall Againe this Scripture is vnto vs if not the liuely voice of God yet certainly in stead thereof For we haue none other liuely voice of God but this for as for the voice of the Church pastors and teachers in the Church the same may erre neither may it properly be called the voice of God The voice of God we must auouch of it that it is a liuely voice ergo c. Thirdly the very Scripture speaks of it selfe as hauing a liuely voice as we may reade Rom. 9. The Scripture saith c. Againe Esaias Scripture is said to crie concerning Israel Rom. 9. 27. Fourthly so many as propound questions of any matter necessarie to saluation be sent to it Esaie S. Should not a people inquire at their God from the liuing to the dead Turne rather to the law to the testimonie If they speake not according to this word there is no morning light in them Againe the Sonne of God himselfe so often as any propounded questions vnto him of the law of diuorcement of the Sabboth of the Messias of regeneration and of the resurrection or how to attaine eternall life he alwaies gaue them answer out of the sacred Scripture and euer he sends such as moue any such doubts vnto the Scripture How
the Church is one The aduersaries withstand this conclusion and infring it with these arguments First the scripture is not written in mens hearts with the finger of God neither is it the primary voice of God Secondly the scripture is of no antiquity Thirdly it is obscure Fourthly ambiguous c. Bellarmine ads more to these of which ye may read in him They conclude that the voice of the Church is the principall and proper voice of the holy Ghost as he is the Iudge of controuersies Their proofe is this The scripture is written in the heart of the Church with Gods own finger this is the primary voice of God And whatsoeuer excellency wee doe ascribe to the scripture that they attribute to their owne Church which is nothing els but a den of theeues And that the spirit being this great iudge is not bound to one sort of men as those of the Ecclesiasticall function the Pope and Councels as they speak but doth performe this office without all respect of persons in whom and by whom soeuer it seemeth good vnto himselfe this is manifest first for if the holy Ghost be not the Iudge both of the very context of the scripture whether it be Gods word and of the interpretation of scripture if he be not I say in man himselfe assuredly there can be no faith For the spirit only begetteth faith in mans heart Secondly the holy Ghost executeth his other offices freely in by any man therefore so may he this function of iudging What is meant by iudging in the holy Ghost For I demand what els is it to iudge but to inlighten to teach that the scripture is giuen of God by inspiration and that this is the naturall sense of this scripture Thirdly the same we be taught by our experience for we find it true by experience that he doth freely iudge in and by whom it pleaseth him Testimonies of scripture proue also this assertion 1. Cor. 12. 11 And all these things worketh euen the selfe same spirit distributing to euery man seuerallie as he will And Esay 54. All thy children shall be taught of God Ier. 31. I will write my lawes in their harts The aduersaries impugne this truth of God with some argumēts of their owne of which ye may reade in Bellarmine And these men binde the holy Ghost to the Pope and to councels confirmed by him which point our men impugne also refute with many arguments of which this is one that of their conclusion this must be the consequent that the Pope and his councels must be aboue the scriptures which thing is absurd to be graunted See more arguments of this subiect in their disputations CHAP. XVI Of the eight propertie and the tenth controuersie LASTLY we auouch that the sacred scripture is of highest authority excellency and 10. Propertie dignity on the earth Here againe by this word scripture we vnderstand both the substance of it and the writing And here wee meane it hath such excellency as makes it most worthie of credit and whereby also it gaines authority and estimation to the Church For which cause the Church is called the Pillar and ground of truth 1. Tim. 3. 15. And it hath many other titles which are giuen to it often in the scriptures This is prooued by the former demonstrations as these The scripture is the word of God it is most perspicuous it is most pure and simple c. Ergo. The aduersaries vary in iudgment touching this authority of Scripture For some of them detract from this soueraigne authority of it affirming that of it selfe it is not authentical but takes authoritie and estimation from the Church Of this minde are these Eckius in Enchiridio Pighius in his booke de Hierarchia and one Hermannus an impudent Papist he with a black mouth auoucheth it that the scripture is of no more validity without the testimony of the Church then AEsops Fables c. Others more late writers and more subtile say that the scripture hath authoritie in and by it selfe and is authentical but not to vs before the church approue it and ascertain it to be so Of this iudgmēt be these Bellarmine Coclaeus Canus Stapleton Canisius c. They which speake thus that the written word of God is not authenticall to vs before the iudgment of the Church be manifested these men I say haue this meaning that we bee not bound to beleeue that the Scriptures bee authenticall before the iudgment of the Church be past of it and that we sinne not at all if wee beleeue them not before the definitiue sentence of the Church But we hold this to be false also to say that the scripture is not to vs authenticall without the authority of the Church For it is the holy Ghost that teacheth euery man to know beleeue that the scripture is authenticall and hath soueraigne authority in it selfe And this he teacheth not by any externall meane How the holy Ghost teacheth vs what authority the scripture hath first but by the very sacred scripture by which alone he properly breeds faith in our hearts to beleeue and apprehend this truth of God And so we resting on this illumination of the holy ghost teaching vs by the scripture that this is the excellencie and authority of the scripture doe beleeue this to be so albeit the whole world did oppose it selfe against vs. And thus farre of the more essentiall questions concerning scripture CHAP. XVII Questions more accidentall concerning the holy Scripture and first of the bookes wherein the same is contained THE first question is concerning the books of holy scripture These bookes are commonly called for the excellency of them The Bible The Bible as it is commonly receiued and caried in hands containes in it two sorts of books the first is of books Canonicall and the second is Apocryphal Regular or Canonicall bookes are such as giue rule and direction touching faith and manners The bookes of Moses are the first Canon or president sent from God First Canon which may not be iudged or tryed by any other externall Canon whatsoeuer For there was no booke extant before the books of Moses The authoritie of the writer so holy and the euidence of the spirit so powerfull and the holinesse of these books to passe by other arguments so great hath gained these books this high estimation and authority in the Church The books of the Prophets make vp the second Canon which bee adiudged canonicall Second Canon by that externall Canon of the Mosaicall books by which they were examined Next they were and are discerned of such as be taught of God inwardly by the holy Ghost by the great euidence of Gods spirit which is manifested in them both in words and matter The third Third Canon Canon are the Apostolical books of the New Testament which are adiudged and approoued as Canonicall partly by the Canonicall books of Moses partly by the
beene heard anie liuely voice either of God or of anie extraordinarie man A. None at all Q. Do you gather by these things which you haue spoken concerning the causes of the continuance of a liuelie voice in the Church what was the vse of it heretofore in the Church A. Yea truly for the vse of it was first in respect of the Church it selfe to giue it instruction while it was yet so small for place and so young in knowledge next in respect of reuelation to deliuer it from time to time more cleerly and euidently vnto the people Q. By this vse of a liuelie voice which you haue here mentioned it seems that this kind of ruelatiō which was by a liuely voice was the more simple and the more familiar and the more imperfect and therefore the more fit for persons and things that were of like imperfection A. It is euen so as you haue said Q. Hitherto I haue heard you speake concerning a liuelie voice now I would heare something of you concerning the subiect of it what say you then was taught all that time by a liuely voice A. In al that time and in euery age the selfe same and the whole truth of God was deliuered by a liuely voice The subiector master of the liuely voice Q. Wherefore then said you that the perfect manifestation of that mysterie of godlinesse was not accomplished till the Apostles time A. By that fulnesse perfection I vnderstood not the substance of the doctrine it selfe but the quality that is the clearenesse of one and the same doctrine For the mysterie of Christ was in the Church and was manifested in some measure from Adam vnto Christ and the Apostles but if the comparison be made of times it may be said to be shut hidden in all ages before the comming of Christ Q. Was the paritie of the heauenlie doctrine sufficientlie conserued and kept by a liuely voice A. The historie shewes plainely that the doctrine deliuered by liuely voice was often corrupted and adulterated Q. How then was it restored It seemed good to God afterward by new reuelations to restore the puritie of his word decayed to conserue and keepe it and to giue a more full declaration of it Q. Was the puritie of doctrine sufficientlie preserued and kept so A. Not so verily and therefore it seemed good to God at length to adde hereunto the written word Q. Are there no other causes of writing the holie Scriptures A. There are for first the condition of the Church required that the Scripture should be added vnto the liuely voice and next the measure also of reuelation Q. Why the condition of the Church A. Because at length in Moses time the Church began to be both in place more large as being spred throughout a whole nation and to grow greater and riper in yeares for the time from Moses vnto Christ was as it were the time of the midde age or young yeares of the Church Q. What then A. The written word therefore was first in respect both of place and ripenesse of age for both a whole nation is more easily taught by writing then by voice and the age which is more ripe is more capable of that doctrine which is deliuered by writing that is by that kind of reuelation which is not so familiar and simple and by writing doth more easily conceiue any mans meaning Q. Why doth the measure of reuelation require the written word A. Because whereas before Moses the reuelation of the mysterie of godlinesse was small and very obscure it seemed not good to the Lord to cause it straight waies to be written to the intent it might be kept for posteritie But when in Moses time the Reuelation began to bee much more cleare then before then it seemed good vnto God to commit it to writing to the intent it might be reserued and remain for those which should come after For that which is more perfect and full that wee are to write to this end that it may remaine both for vs and our posterity but that which is more imperfect that we doe not esteeme worthy the writing or to be reserued vnto posterity Q. Before you go anie further I would haue you declaare vnto me the ages of the Church where of you haue so oft made mention A. I will so do Q. How manie ages then say you are there of the Church A. Three the first was from Adam vnto Moses which was the infancy and childhood of the Church the second from Moses vnto Christ which was the youth or middle age of the Church the third from Christ and his Apostles euen vnto the end which may be called the ripe age of the Church if it be compared with the ages past for otherwise we are not men growne vntill we bee gathered together with Christ our head in heauen Q. Do you meane then that God had respect alwaies of these three ages in his proceedings with his Church A. I meane so indeed for that I may so speake hee hath tempered these three things proportionally to these three ages of the Church to wit first the measure of reuelation secondly his holy Spirit thirdly the manner of reuelation Q. Declare I pray you more particularlie what you haue said A. To the infancie and childhood of the Church he gaue the least measure of reuelation to wit first the first principles of religion onely Secondly the least measure of the holy Spirit to wit that which was proportionable to the reuelation Thirdly one onely kind of reuelation which was by liuely voice as being the most fit for the instruction of infants and of such as were weake in the faith Q. I vnderstand what you saie concerning the first age of the Church now I would haue you speake concerning the middle age which you call the youth of it and to applie these three things mentioned to it in like manner To the middle age of the Church he gaue first a greater measure of reuelation Secondly so to speake a greater portion of the holy Spirit Thirdly a double kind of reuelation the liuely voice and the Scripture The liuely voice I say because as yet it was but weake and the written word because it was in age better growne and so more capable in some sort of the word written for God hath tempered these two kinds of reuelations together and of both hath made a middle kind of reuelation according to the time and age which wee call the middle and as it were the temperate age Q. You haue spoken of the first second age of the Church now I pray you speake of the third A. To the third age of the Church which I call the manly or ripe age he gaue first a full measure of reuelation Secondly a most plentifull effusion of the holy Ghost Thirdly both those kinds of reuelation and that now truly containing a full and perfect reuelation hee taught it by liuely voice for a certaine
repay and recompense this your loue with manifold comforts of his spirit euen then specially when the comforts and props of this present life shall most be wanting Now the God of hope fill you with all ioy and peace in beleeuing that ye may abounde in hope through the power of the holy Ghost that so ye may perseuer in this your holy faith in Christ and loue to the Saints vnto the end Amen Yours to vse in the Lord Christ Iesus HENRIE HOLLAND To the Reader ALthough the greater part both of authors and translators of bookes may be taxed of officiousnes and not a few of vngodlines yet are there some whose merits in this kinde doe out-way the demerits of the other These are either those worthie lightes themselues or else those second candlestickes to translate the light into which God specially in these latter yeares hath bestowed as gifts to vse Saint Paules word vpon his Church to the edification of it It is true indeede in one sense that both the one and the other are but candlestickes for the light is Gods but otherwise comparatiuely the author is the light and the translator is as it were an other candlesticke to translate the light into and that for those which thorough ignorance of the tongue could not attaine to the light when it shone out of the authors owne lampe Now although there seeme no great gifts to be required in a translator yet the truth is that if he be not of good discretion to choose the fittest workes of good speech to expresse the authors sentence with fittest wordes and of so great apprehension and former store that by that which he seeth in the author he hath attained to more then paraduenture the author himselfe saw or minded his defectiuenes will bring him in daunger of shewing what gifts are required in a translator for a good translator is neither a paraphrast nor a periphrast which is committed by needeles chaunging or adding words He so behaueth himselfe that the comparing of the originall will commend his fidelitie and that they which know of no originall would take the translator for the author himselfe He must naturalize his translation for the reader without miuring the gift of the author in the natiue worke But these seeme criticke rules to the irregular which offend against their authors to please themselues for as there are many translations of vnworthie workes so are there many transportations of worthie workes which like plantes ill taken vp reioyce not to growe in the soyle into which they are translated And yet neuerthelesse it cannot without iniurie be denied that this age hath afforded many excellent translations of excellent and learned authors to the benefit of our people amongst whom Maister Rollocke the reuerend Author of this worke deserueth an eminent place as also this worke it selfe is very acceptable together with the translators godly labour in this and other things commodious to the Church of Christ This inclined me the rather to commend it to thee in these few lines not as taking vpon me any thing but as a poore man where he is better knowne is sometimes engaged for a rich This labour is become ours not onely because it is thus well englished but also because the Author is a Scottishman which is now to the wise hearted a synonymie of an Englishman And it shall be to the praise of both the Nations to receiue both mutuall and common benefits without that emulation which was betwixt Israel and Iuda It is a comely thing to speake in the words of that King that was so miraculously restored to declare the signes and wonders of the high God which we see this day euen this vnanimitie in receiuing the King wrought no doubt by diuine instinct rather then grace in some which otherwise mendaciter deduntie as Dauid saith Let vs on the otherside goe out in our sinceritie and meete the King of Kings with Hosanna And I beseech you by the wonder of our neighbours which is our innocent aggregation to this scepter let the solution of an obiection by King Henry the seuenth of noble memorie and of so renowned wisedome be our satisfaction that the soueraigntie is deuolued where it is not onely by the prouidence but also by the ordinance of God to the comfortable vniting of that Nation rather then Nations which at the first vpon the matter was indeede but one though for some yeares past it were diuided by conceit Let vs take vp the argument of Abraham We are brethren c. And as this is a worke of vocation so let vs hold the comming of our King to bee the worke of reuocation to call vs backe to vnitie And so gentle reader I commit thee to the God of peace and vnitie Thine in Christ Francis Marbury To the Reader CHristian reader I pray thee pardon all faults in this first impression I could not well be present with the workemen for their direction Some schoole poynts and phrases of schoole men doe not so well relish in the English tongue nor could be rendred to my content whatsoeuer is wanting in word or matter in this edition I will amend in the next if the Lord permit farewell Thine in Christ Iesus Henry Holland The Contents 1OF our effectuall calling 1 2 Of the word of God or of the couenant in generall and of the couenant of workes in speciall 6 3 Of the couenant of Grace 11 4 Of such as be comprehended in may truely be said to be vnder the couenant of God 27 5 A comparison of our iudgement and of the aduersaries concerning both these couenants 31 6 Of the written word or of the written couenant of God 38 7 Of the number of the controuersies which are concerning the written word and first whether the scripture be the word of God 40 8 How it may appeare that the scripture is the word of God 45 9 Of the first proprietie of the sacred scripture 54 10 Of the second proprietie of the sacred scripture 57 11 Of the third proprietie of the sacred scripture 62 12 Of the fourth proprietie 66 13 Of the fift proprietie of the scripture 70 14 Of the sixt proprietie of the scripture 74 15 Of the seuenth proprietie of the scripture 77 16 Of the eight proprietie of the scripture 80 17 Questions more accidentall concerning the holy Scripture and first of the bookes wherein the same is contained 82 18 Of the authenticall edition of the Bible 90 19 Of the Greeke edition of the new Testament 97 20 Of the translations of the old Testament 102 21 Of the Syriacke translation of the new Testament 108 22 Of the Latin translations of both testaments 110 23 Of the translation of the Bible into the mother tongue 113 24 Of sinne in generall 127 25 Of originall sinne 133 26 Of concupiscence 144 27 Of actuall sinne 146 28 The controuersie concerning the sinne against the holy Ghost 153 29 Of iustifying faith 158 30 Of the improper significations
in all succeeding ages God himself with his owne hand did first write in tables of stone the words of the Decalogue Next after this he gaue it in charge vnto Moses that he should afterwards write and record all things which hee receiued at Gods owne mouth and that the people of God might be assured that the bookes of Moses came not by mans will but were giuen by diuine inspiration the Lord sealed 2. Tim. 3. 16 and testified these writings to be his heauenly oracles by manie great wonders before they were written when they were written and after they were written And Moses wrote the Word of both couenants of both I say Legall and Euangelicall but whereas he gaue but as it were the first lineaments of the Euangelicall couenant he set forth the Legall couenant clearely and in full measure For the legall couenant in the bookes of Moses is cleerely recommended and vrged but the Euangelical more darkly set before vs. For which cause all the doctrine of Moses is said to be legall The Law came by Moses Ioh. 1. After Moses God stirred vp his Prophets whose writings also he confirmed with his great miracles and gaue them great authoritie yet were they not to set forth any thing diuers or contrary to the doctrine of Moses and the Patriarches nor to publish any thing but what was grounded in the bookes of Moses but by diuine reuelation they did ad more cleere interpretations as the morning starre of the new testament did more neerely approch These holy men wrote the summe and chiefe heads of their doctrine euen so much as God himselfe thought meete to be reserued for posterity And these records being written were laid vp with the holie books of Moses which were kept in the side of the Arke Iosh 24. 26. Finally after the incarnation of Christ the Euangelicall doctrine or the Gospell first beganne for certaine yeares to be deliuered by voice and to be preached by Christ himselfe and then after by his Apostles And lastly the same was written by the Apostles The works of Gods law and nature are commanded in the bookes of the new Testament And the verie moral law is expounded by Christ himselfe freed from the leauen and corruption of the Pharisees but the works of the law and nature are not recommended to the end that by them men might be iustified and saued but they be commended either to prepare men to intertaine grace offered or to quicken them to proceed and grow in grace receiued as is before shewed Againe the works of regeneration be commanded not for iustification but as testimonies of that iustification which is by faith and of thankfulnes vnto God for which cause so soone as the Apostle hath taught the doctrine of faith he descends to the works of the lawe teaching men that their life and conuersation must be worthie that high calling whereunto we are called in Christ Iesu See Ephe. 4. 1. 1. Thess 2. 12. But faith in Christ is that which is principally required in all the books of the new Testament And thus farre generally of the written word of the couenant CHAP. VII The number of the controuersies which are concerning the written Word and of the first controuersie whether the Scripture be the word of God THere be two kinds of controuersies concerning the holy Scripture The first kind is of such controuersies as bee more essentiall that is which concerne the very essence if I may so speake or being of the Scripture The second kind is of those controuersies which bee more accidentall and doe not so neerely concerne the essence of the Scripture Of the first kind there are ten controuersies or questions the first is Whether the Scripture Propheticall and Apostolicall bee the word of God The second is How it may appeare that this Scripture is Gods word The third is Of the antiquitie of it The fourth is Of the perspicuity or cleerenes of it The fift is Of the simplicitie or plainnesse of it The sixt is Of the viuacitie quickening power or life of it The seuenth is Of the simple euident necessitie of it The eight is Of the perfection sufficiencie thereof that it is sufficient and perfect in it selfe without all vnwritten verities or traditions whatsoeuer The ninth is Whether the Scripture may bee the iudge to determine all controuersies The tenth is Whether the Scriptures Propheticall and Apostolicall must haue the chiefe place of excellency and be in authoritie aboue the Church As for those eight controuersies which follow the two first they are touching the properties of the holie Scripture and these when we shall haue proued that the Scripture is Gods word will appeare euidently for they are necessary consequents of that Theoreme For grant we this that the Scripture is Gods word then these things must follow necessarily first that it is most ancient secondly most cleere thirdly most simple or pure fourthly most powerfull fiftly most necessarie sixtly most perfect seuenthly the greatest best iudge of all controuersies without exception eightly most excellent But for as much as the aduersaries denie these eight properties therefore as is a foresaid there is of euerie one of them a speciall controuersie We are then to handle these controuersies in order and first of that which by due right naturally is to haue the first place Whether the Scripture be the word of God The Aduersaries graunt generally that the holy Scripture is the word of God but when they are brought from the generall to a speciall they break from vs. To speake more plainely the word of God at this day is twofold in the Church of God 1. immediate 2. mediate I call that the Gods written word immediate word of God which doth proceede immediately out of Gods owne mouth and that I call mediate which the Lord speakes by his preacher or Minister We hold then and auouch that the holie Scripture is that immediate and primarie word of God and to bee vnto vs in steed of that first immediate and liuely voice of God himselfe yea that it serues vs in place not only of that liuely voice of God but also of the secret and insearchable mind of God and of Gods vnspeakeable mysteries Our arguments are these 1. For that this is the verie will of God They haue Moses saith he and the prophets that is the bookes of Moses and the Prophets Luk. 16. 29. 2. If we had nothing to supply the defect of the liuely voice of God then doubtlesse our state were worse then that of the old Church of the Iewes which had the oracles of God but it is against all light of reason so to Rom. 3 1. 2. affirme 3. Our third reason is this The first ground of our faith must be either the liuely voice of God or the verie mind and counsell of God or something to supply the want of Gods liuely voyce and of the secret mind of God which must also be
constancie of the Martyrs which daylie seale with their blood the truth of this heauenly doctrine the persecution raised by the enemies of the Church against it the enmitie of Sathan against it and the preseruation of the diuine oracles of God vnto our times and to be short the testimonie of the true Church of God for it All these are without or beside the Scripture and giue vs a secundarie kinde of demonstration whereby the holy Ghost worketh also as it pleaseth him and openeth the eies of our vnderstanding inlightening vs to see and heare God him-selfe speaking and shining in the Scripture But here we be to obserue that the holy ghost doth God rather by these meanes the testimonie of the Church and couersation of the saints prepareth vs to receiue the pretious faith not beget faith in our harts properlie and principallie by this second kinde of externall meanes for the proper and principall instrument of God to breed faith is the very word of God himselfe for it must be necessarilie either the liuely voice of God or the sacred scripture which serueth vs in steede of the liuelie voice of God himselfe but either prepares our hearts only to receiue faith afterwards Io. 4. 1. Pet. 3. 2. 3. wards by the word of God or to confirme the same in some sort beeing already ingendred in our hearts by Gods word For this cause this second kind of meanes sometimes is sent before the voice of God in the scripture whereby the holy Ghost otherwhiles makes mens minds ready to intertaine faith and grace offred This we reade of Augustine for he speaks it of himselfe I would not haue beleeued the gospell but that the authority of the Catholicke Church moued me thereunto by which words he meaneth that when he was a Manichee he was prepared by the authority and testimonie of the Church to beleeue the Gospell Afterwards notwithstanding the same holie spirit which thus prepared him by the testimonie of the Church I say the same spirit did beget faith in Augustines heart by the very scripture of the gospell whereby he did beleeue that the gospell was the verie word of God For this cause he speaks else where of himselfe And let vs follow them saith he which doe inuite vs first to beleeue that which we cannot behold Augustines wordes as yet that being strengthened by faith it selfe we may be worthie to vnderstand what we beleeue not by the relation of men but by the grace of God himselfe inwardlie confirming and inlightening our mindes So the woman of Samaria Io 4. as a member of the Church did by her kinde of preaching prepare the Samaritanes to the faith of Christ they hauing heard Christ himselfe said to the woman We beleeue no longer because of thy sayings for Io 4. 42 1. Pet. 3. 2. 3. Win them with your conuersation which are without the word we haue heard him our selues and know that this is indeed the Christ the Sauiour of the world By which wordes they plainely testified that they were prepared only by the womans testimonie to embrace the faith and that faith was ingendred in their hearts by the powerfull voice of Christ himselfe Wherefore it is cleere that sometimes this kind of meane and argument as is aforesaide goes before faith is begotten in the heart to prepare vs and sometimes this followes faith for confirmation And sometimes also this kinde of argument goes before faith and followes after it it goes before I say for preparation it followes after for confirmation For the spirit teacheth vs many waies applying himselfe to diuers men in diuers Note well Io. 3. manners as it seemeth good vnto himselfe and as mens infirmities do require And here we be to obserue that there is no absolute necessitie of this secondarie kind of argument which is externall and lesse principall to beget faith in vs. For it ought to suffice vs if the spirit teach vs onely by Gods worde but to helpe our weakenes the same spirit addeth the other secondarie kind of argument as Christ plainly teacheth vs Io. 5. where he sayth the testimonie of Iohn Baptist concerning him was not simply necessarie but that God so prouided to helpe their weakenesse and vnbeliefe ver 33. Iohn gaue testimony to the truth but I desire not the testimonie of man Neuerthelesse these things I speake that ye may be saued And that Iohns testimonie was but a secondarie argument only and that Christs owne record of himselfe was the first he sheweth plainly in the words following ver 36. But I haue a greater witnes then the witnes of Iohn for the works which the Father hath giuen me to finish the same works that I do beare witnes of me that the Father sent me And this is our iudgment concerning this argument whereby we proue the Scripture to be the word of God and our answere to the question wherefore it is so as we auouch it What the Papists thinke in this matter it is easily seene How the Papists proue the scripture to bee Gods word by their words and writings Their iudgement briefly is this The meane and principall argument and in a manner the only way with them to demonstrate the scripture to be Gods word is the testimony of the church not only the catholick as they speak but also those of their church which haue preserued the faith as they speake by contiall successions from the Apostles vnto our times and here they vnderstand principally the Popes who as they say succeeded Peter and his chaire These men will haue the Church the iudge and interpreter of all Scriptures from whose iudgement it may not be lawfull for any man to depart for an appeale to any other iudge And they ascribe this dignity prerogatiue to the testimony of the Church because they will haue the Scripture which is written in the heart of the Church to be the principall Scripture and that we account and esteeme of the voice of the Church as the very liuely voice of God himselfe as if God now spake first principally in his Church and by the voice of his Church If they will haue it so that the voice of the Church bee the primarie voice of God and the primarie Scripture of God it is euident that they deeme the greatest light we haue is to be found in the voice of the Church and the same to be most cleere and demonstratiue not only to vs but also in and by it selfe and therefore that this light inlightens the sacred Scripture not in respect of vs only but in respect of themselues also For which cause one of them hath said that the The blasphemy of Papists Scripture is of no more validity without the authority of the church then AEsops fables For the voice of the church being vnto them the primarie voice of God in all respects for as much as it is liuely and vocall and for this cause both by nature
consider the substance onely of the scripture which without all controuersie is most ancient But the verie scripture and writing it selfe hath his excellencie also for that the scripture in respect of the very writing is said to be giuen vs also by diuine inspiration For there is not a iote or pricke in the Scriptura est 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 very writing which is not by the inspiration of God Here the Aduersaries take exception and as els where often so here they prefer their Church before the scripture and they affirme the Church is more ancient then the scripture For they say there was a Church two thousand A Popish obiection full yeares before Moses the first writer of the scripture And since Christs comming the Church for many yeares wanted the scriptures But that which hath beene alreadie written and is aforesaid can easily solue this obiection For if we vnderstand by this word Scripture not only the characters and books but also that substance and matter contained in them for we haue the Prophets and Apostles speaking in the scriptures we haue their liuely voice we haue I say the liuely voice of God himselfe and the very expresse mind of God contained in them if I say we vnderstand by this word that substance it cannot thē be denied but the scripture is more ancient then the Church which was borne not of mortall seed but of immortall euen by the word of God who liueth and endureth for euer 1. Pet. 1. 23. I say the premisses well considered it shall appeare the scripture is not onely more ancient then the Church but to be of greatest antiquitie and to haue beene with God from euerlasting But if by this word ye vnderstand both the matter and writing in this respect also it shall be no disparagement to auouch it to be of greater antiquitie then the Church yea to be most ancient as we haue at large before shewed And thus far of the first propertie of the sacred scripture and of the third controuersie CHAP. X. Of the second propertie of the sacred Scripture where begins the fourth controuersie THe second propertie of the sacred scripture is opened sufficiently in a manner alreadie in the second controuersie before handled This propertie is this that the Scripture is most cleere in it selfe and most easie to be vnderstood for it being the very word of God which word euerie man must necessarily graunt to be in it selfe most cleere most manifest and most perspicuous whether you respect the words or the matter contained in the words if men will not offer extreme iniurie to Gods holy Spirit assuredly it must follow I say that the holy scripture is in it selfe and of it selfe most cleere and euident in euery part and in euerie respect Of this great perspicuitie of the scripture the holy ghost testifieth often Psal 119. The word of the Lord is a lanterne to my feete Psal 19. The precept of the Lord saith the Psalmist is cleere and inlighteneth the eyes Prou. 6. The commandement is a lanterne and the law is a light The Lord by the Prophet Esay chap. 45. 19. saith I haue not spoken in secret and 2. Pet. 1. 19. he saith We haue a most sure word of the Prophets to the which ye do well that ye take heede as to a light that shineth in a darke place Wherefore the whole scripture al places of the scripture are by themselues and in themselues most manifest most cleere and applied also to the capacity of the vulgar sort and of the most vnlettered among the people For it is certaine that the Lord in the scriptures doth as it were lispe with vs Io. 3. 12. If I haue spoken to you of earthly things and you beleeue not that is I haue spoken vnto you after an earthly and plaine manner and I haue applied my selfe to your capacitie c. I haue auouched that the sacred scripture is in it selfe cleere and easie True it is if ye respect men as they are All the scripture cleere and easie to the weakest beleeuer 1. Cor. 2. 14. men that is naturall and carnall the holy scripture vnto such is altogether obscure and strange For the naturall man doth not conceiue the things which appertaine to the Spirit of God But if ye consider the spirituall man and such as be taught of God I grant to such it is partly obscure because they be as yet in part carnall And for this cause the godly put vp continually supplications vnto God as feeling the reliques of their naturall blindnes and corruption and making requests that the eyes of their vnderstanding might be opened that they may behold the bright shining light of the scriptures and of euerie place and portion of the scripture being otherwise most euident in it selfe All the religious and godly in their prayers are so farre from laying any imputation of hardnesse and obscurity on Gods word that they do euer accuse condemne themselues and their owne blindnesse and dulnesse And albeit this be true that all the scripture and all places of the scripture be simply and in themselues most Note cleare and easie and onely darke and hard by reason of our corruption and blindnesse yet this cannot be denied but that some places of scripture be more cleere in themselues then others more easie and more euident as those scriptures concerning faith and manners which bee so necessarie vnto saluation they be I say so cleerely set downe so often repeated and in so manie places expounded that we need not manie rules for interpretation or to find out the knowledge of them But these places also require the grace of Gods holy spirit for without him spirituall things which be most perspicuous and euident cannot be vnderstood of anie man on earth Wherfore he that is ignorant of the most cleere scriptures which doe so much concerne his saluation is altogether blind and lieth as yet in the wofull state of perdition for so the Apostle speaketh If that the Gospell be hid it is hidden to them that are lost 2. Cor. 4. 3. 4. As for other scriptures which are more hard in appearance for that they do not so much concerne the necessarie articles of faith and rules of life and conuersation we may be ignorant of them without danger of faith and saluation albeit the knowledge of such places might bring some light for the better vnderstanding of the How to interpret expound hard scriptures scriptures which of necessity must be knowne concerning faith and manners And we may attaine some tolerable interpretation of these scriptures analogicall vnto faith if we obserue those rules of knowlege and interpretation which are commonly recommended by the learned euer making Gods holy spirit our first and principal guide for our inward illumination and instruction The rules which follow this are but the meanes which the holy Rules Ghost vseth and they are borowed partly out of the 1
readest thou saith hee and haue ye not read Haue ye neuer read How is it written Againe the Apostles of Christ for all their assertions bring proofe and testimonies out of the old Testament Apollos was a man mighty in Scriptures He strongly confuted publiquely the Iewes with great vehemency shewing by the Scriptures that Iesus was that Christ Act. 18. 24. 28. The men of Beraea receiued the word with all readinesse and searched the scriptures daily whether those things were so Act. 17. 11. Thus the primitiue Church and the fathers refuted heresies by the Scriptures To conclude this point most memorable is that worthy fact of Constantinus the Great who propounding the Bible to the Fathers assembled in the Nicene councell spake on this manner Here I set before you the writings Euangelicall of the Apostles and the sanctions of the auncient Prophets which can informe vs concerning the sacred law of God To beat back therefore the dint of the sword of the aduersarie let vs learne how to answer all obiections of the aduersarie out of the words which are giuen vs of God by diuine inspiration Lastly this I haue said that the Scripture is in it selfe liuely and vocall for as concerning deafe and dead men that is the naturall neuer taught of God vnto such I say it is but as deade mute Here the aduersaries blaspheme and reply saying that y e sacred scripture is but as a dead letter mute and not able togiue answere to any man not able to decide questions and controuersies in religion And contrarily they glory that the voice of the Church which proceeds from the Scripture as they speake which is in grauen by Gods own Spirit in the hearts of men they boast I say that this is vocall and able to answer the demaunders of all questions appertaining to saluation that this cannot be wrested nor peruerted but euer abides the same in al respects The answer to this calumniation and blasphemy is cleere of that which is before shewed for we made it cleere and manifest that the sacred Scripture is most liuely and vocall in it selfe And whereas controuersies are not so soone decided by the Scriptures the cause is not in Gods word but in men which be either so naturally blind and dull that they cannot heare vnderstand the Scripture speaking answering yea crying in their eares or they be so malitious and obstinate that they will not heare and vnderstand yea that they will full often against their owne conscience wrest the voice of the Scripture into another sense and that to their owne perdition Wherefore we conclude this point that the scripture is in it selfe 2. Pet. 3. and by it selfe most liuely and vocall And further we be to remember that to the end it may speake as a liuely voice vnto vs and to the end we may vnderstand it concerning all controuersies in religion we must vse the meanes before mentioned our very Grāmar Meanes to be vsed for the vnderstanding of the scripture is one speciall instrument for this purpose For our eies eares are opened by such meanes to vnderstand the Scripture and to attend vnto Gods voice speaking in the scripture if it shall seeme good to the holy Ghost to worke effectually by them in our hearts and minds If so be that the spirit worke effectually by the aforesaide meanes then the Scripture shall answer to all controuersies concerning faith and religion with a more cleere liuely intelligible and distinct voice then all the men in the whole Church shall answer who can auouch nothing sound and certaine vnlesse first they haue receiued it from the mouth of the Scripture and answer in the verie words of the scripture For whereas these men say the voice of the Church is liuely and vocall heard of all men and cannot bee peruerted and wrested To this I answer first that the voice of the Church as is aforesaid doth depend on the voice of the scripture Next that the voice of the Church is subiect to errours and change so that they may this day answer one thing and to morrow another and this serues no better in a manner then a Lesbian rule to decide controuersies concerning faith religion As for the church of Rome they haue so long and so corruptly answered concerning faith and religion that they haue caried the world from the truth to lies and errours and infinite heresies that there is now no cause wherefore these men may so put forth to sale the voice and sound of their Church which is become so corrupt and adulterous CHAP. XIII Of the fift property of the Church and of the seuenth controuersie NOw it resteth that we proue that the sacred Scripture is simply most necessarie Here then I say that if by Scripture yee vnderstand the substance and the verie matter contained in the words written it cannot be denied that the scripture is so necessarie that without it there can be no Church in earth for the church is borne and bred not Fift propertie Scripture is most necessarie of mortall but of immortall seede which is the word of God 1. Pet. 1. 23. But if ye vnderstand by the scripture the verie writing and forme of reuelation I say that in this respect also it is so necessarie that without this there cannot be a Church For the liuely voice of God is simply necessarie The scripture after a sort is the liuely voice of God therefore simply necessarie I graunt it that when as the liuely voice of God did sound and was heard in the Church this writing and this forme of reuelation was not then so necessarie but when as God did cease to speake and that the scripture came in place of Gods own voice then the scripture was no lesse necessary then the liuely voice of God For the voice of God must euer be in the Church that the church may haue her being and may continue on the earth yea this voice must be heard by the Church either by it selfe or by that which may best supply the want of the liuely voice of God Before Moses time this voice it selfe was heard after his time this voice sounded and spake in and by the voice and writings of Moses and the Prophets When Christ was come his owne liuely voice was heard After Christs ascension for a time the 2. Cor. 5. 19. 1. Pet. 2. 19. preaching of the Apostles and the bookes of the old Testament were receiued for the liuely voice of God himselfe and of his sonne Iesus Christ Then followed the Apostolicall Scripture which together with the holy scripture of the old Testament continue in the Church to supply not only the liuely voice of the Apostles but also of God and of Christ himselfe By the premisses it is euident y t it is simply necessary at all times that the liuely voice of God sound euer in the Church of God either by it selfe or by this supply which wee
written which was before deliuered by the liuely voice Q. I pray you speak in order vnto me of the subiect or argument in scripture written first by God himself secondly by mē by Moses the Prophets and Apostles A. I will do so Q. What then hath God written A. The sum of the doctrine of the couenant of works of the law euen the very same which he had deliuered first by a liuely voice to the Fathers and to Moses Q. What hath Moses written A. All the celestiall doctrine which he had receiued partly of the fathers by tradition partly of God himselfe Moses books who spake mouth to mouth with him for so the scripture speaketh partly he had learned of the holy Ghost by an inward inspiration to speake in a word whatsoeuer had happened to him and to all the people in his life time for the space of 100. and 20. yeares all these things he committed to writing and gaue to the people Q. Did Moses then write what soeuer true doctrine was deliuered from the beginning of the world to that time A. Moses omitted no point of true doctrine which at any time had bene deliuered concerning either faith or manners for from the beginning vntil that very time one and the same doctrine of truth as touching the substance was taught full and whole in all ages The difference only was in the measure of the reuelation of it that it is accidentall Moses deliuered this doctrine fully and wholy by liuely voice more cleerely and manifestly then euer before then after this it was recorded in writing Q. What did the Prophets write who followed Moses euerie one in their time and order A. The same and all as touching the substance which Moses had written before the difference only was herein that euery one by reuelation did adde a more cleare manifest interpretation as the bright morning starre did approch more neere Q. What haue the Apostles written after the Prophets A. All and the same which from the beginning of the world in al ages before them was both by liuely audible voice deliuered and written they first also by a liuely voice deliuered the same and after committed it to writing Q. Doe you then make no difference betwixt the writings of the Prophets and of the Apostles A. In the matter and substance none in the clearenes and perspicuity thereof very great for the scripture of the Apostles conteineth the same reuelation of the mystery which was declared from the beginning of the world but most fully and most clearely Q. I haue heard you speake concerning both kinds of reuelation considered without comparison now I would haue you to compare together the liuely voice writing that by comparison it may appeare whether is of greater dignity authority A. I will compare them together the liuely voice and scripture are compared either in respect of substance and matter is selfe which is reuealed by these meanes or in respect of the kinds of y e reuelatiō of it If cōparison be made in regard of the matter or substance they must needes be both equall alike seeing that the matter in either is one and the same but if you compare the kinds of reuclation together it cānot truly be denied but that the first better place is due to the liuely voice seeing that the liuely voice is both in respect of time more auncient was before the organs or instruments thereof for the mouth is an instrument more worthy to be preferred before the hand and is a kind of teaching more familiar more fit for the capacity of such as are more rude ignorant Albeit also in some respects writing is to be preferred before the liuely voice For it is a more perfect accurate kind of reuelation fit to instruct those that are more perfect to keepe the truth more firmely In the meane while it cānot be denied but y t in other respects they are both alike for they haue both spoken written the same thing in the same manner to wit as being guided moued by the holy Ghost inspired of God 2. Pet. 1. 21. 2. Tim. 3. 16. To conclude seeing that now the liuely voice by the wil of God hath ceased and in the place of it the scripture hath succeeded so that whole dignity of the liuely voice before mentioned is and ought worthily to be ascribed and referred vnto the scripture or written word of God Q Doe you meane then that the Prophetical Apostolical scripture ought to be now in as great account with vs as the liuelie voice of God himselfe and of extraordinarie men was in times past A. I meane so and in his kinde of reuelation alone I willingly rest as in that which came by inspiratiō from God so long vntill I shall heare at his glorious comming that liuely and most sweete voice of Christ my Sauiour when he shall say to them who shall be at his right hand Come ye blessed of my Father inherit the kingdome prepared for you from the beginning of the world To whom be all praise for euer Amen To God only wise be praise through Jesus Christ for euer Amen