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B09558 A looking-glass for George Fox the Quaker, and other Quakers; wherein they may see themselves to be right devils. In answer to George Fox his book, called, Something in answer to Lodowick Muggletons book, which he calls The Quakers neck broken. Wherein is set forth the ignorance and blindness of the Quakers doctrine of Christ within them; and that they cannot, nor doth not know the true meaning of the Scriptures, neither have they the gift of interpretation of Scripture. As will appear in those several heads set down in the next page following. / Written by Lodowick Muggleton ... Muggleton, Lodowick, 1609-1698. 1667 (1667) Wing M3046; ESTC R10137 83,636 106

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late not in any I marvel how you Quakers can have Christs person manifest in you and how you can speak in his person Let the Reader mind the Quakers Cheat they own Christs person without them yet this person of Christ without them is manifest within them See the deceit of this Fox I have read of Christ manifest in his Saints and Apostles by his Spirit or Seed of Faith but I never read that Christs person flesh and bone was ever manifest within any man that was alwayes without man and will be without man for ever distinct of himself Also Fox saith the Quakers speak in Christs person Here is another Allegorical speech without any distinction I have heard that an Ambassador hath represented the person of a King and his speech by vertue of a Commission from the King is in the Kings stead but the Ambassador is not in the Kings person though he represents the Kings person the Kings person is at a great distance from his Messenger So it is with Christs Ambassadors as Paul saith We are Ambassadors in Christs stead beseeching you to be reconciled unto Christ by our doctrine Now Pauls person and Christs person were at a great distance one from the other for Christs person was in heaven above the stars and Pauls person was here upon earth so that Paul did not speak in the person of Christ that being at such a distance as I said before but Paul and the rest of the Apostles by vertue of their Commission given from Christ were Ambassadors of him and so stood in Christs stead but Christs person was far enough off from them as a Kings person is far off when his Ambassador is in a strange Land who represents the Kings person as aforesaid But the Quakers they will get into Christs person and speak there or else they will get Christs person into them and so Christ must speak there in their persons so as I said before the Quakers will not be separated from Christ nor suffer him to separate himself from them though I know they never were in union together neither was Christ ever in them that I have damned nor never will be neither were they ever in Christ nor never shall be Neither doth Fox own indeed that person of Christ of flesh and bone that died at Jerusalem to be now living in heaven above the stars but Fox and the Quakers Christ they so much talk of is a meer Allegory without substance a Christ that may be blown away with the word of a true Prophets mouth as I said in The Neck of the Quakers broken Also Fox saith Solomons Books are good Scripture though I say they are not being not in the spirit of Solomon that gave them forth Here I perceive that Fox and the Quakers are got into Solomons spirit just as they did get into Christs person I see Fox can get into spirits as he doth into persons but I perceive Fox is got into Solomons spirit and he blames me because I am not in Solomons spirit I do seriously confess that I am not in Solomons spirit and I am glad I never was in his spirit for who ever is in Solomons spirit doth not know the true God nor the right devil for Solomon knew neither of them though he was a wise man in things of nature but ignorant of spiritual and heavenly wisdom for Solomons wisdom hath the Ground-work of much lust of the flesh and idolatry for the Ranters practice was grounded upon Solomons practice who knew so many women so the Ranters thought they might have the same liberty seeing wise Solomons Writings were owned for Scripture-record thus they continued many of them in their practice of lust till many of them were weary of it as Solomon was when he was old and then they left off that practice and turned Quakers and so fell to be the greatest idolaters of any as Solomon did to his Heathenish-Wives drew his heart away from the worship of Moses to worship idols So is it with those Ranters that are turned Quakers they are become absolute Heathen idolaters for when they were Puritanes so called they were zealous for the letter of the Scriptures and did practice a good life as near as they could to the letter but after they fell to the practice of lust being encouraged by Solomons writings they left that legal Worship and civil practice the Law tied them unto and followed Solomons practice of lust And now they being turned Quakers are fallen to heathen idolatry that is to say the Quakers they worship an unknown God a Spirit without a body they adore a Christ within them and never mindes a body of Christ without them at a distance they believe their own spirits to be immortal and cannot die they believe their spirits go to God or into God again according to Solomons words they believe Gods Spirit being an infinite Being without a body and that this infinite bodiless Spirit taketh all things into it self and so their spirits being immortal they go into God when they die they will not acknowledge that life or soul doth die but departs out of the body they know not where notwithstanding the Scriptures are so full to prove the soul that sins shall die and experience shews it doth die So that the Quakers are become the greatest spiritual idolaters of any and the greatest fighters against a personal God of any for as Solomon did fall to worship the heathen womens visible Images or Idols so do the Quakers worship invisible Idols as a Spirit without a body and that their own spirits may subsist without bodies and that spirits may be capable of happiness or misery without bodies this is the Heathen Philosophers opinion they brought into the world that Principle of the Immortality of the Soul and that Spirits might go to happiness or misery without bodies And the Quakers hath got the Heathen Principle to a hair therefore become Heathen Idolaters as Solomon was for the Scriptures declares another thing Where doth the Scriptures say that God is an Infinite Spirit without a body The Scripture saith God is infinite and so he is Also the Scripture saith God is a Spirit and will be worshipped in spirit and truth but it is not said God is a Spirit without a body for this I say that if a man may worship God in spirit and truth in this natural body as the disciples of Christ did in their natural bodies and as I my self do in my natural body then of necessity it will follow that God hath a spiritual body whereby I may worship him else I shall worship I know not what as you Quakers do And because Gods body is a spiritual body therefore Christ said when on earth God is a Spirit and will be worshipped in spirit and truth he knowing that body of his that was then a pure natural body should by his death and rising again be made a spiritual body and then all true Believers
Salvation and Damnation upon the twelve Tribes of Israel as they gave here in mortality they will justifie the same before Christ their King when they do sit upon twelve Thrones of immortal Glory and many that believed them here shall see them in that glory and many that were condemned here shall see in their own consciences that their Sentence was true even as the Rich man did that was in hell CHAP. XV. SO likewise Moses and the Prophets were Judges and did judge those that believed their Report to be happy and those which did not unhappy as you may see John 5.25 In that Chapter the Jews do upbraid Christ as if he did accuse the Jews worthy of condemnation for not believing in him But saith Christ do not you think that I will accuse you to the Father there is one saith he that accuseth you even Moses in whom you trust for saith he had you believed Moses you would have believed me for he wrote of me The meaning is this That seeing their Fathers did not believe Moses neither obeyed they him but murmured against him and tempted God at the Waters of Meribah and at several other times whereby their carcases fell in the wilderness by their provoking the Lord to anger in murmuring against Moses and Aaron and these Jews in Christs time being the children of those that tempted God when they tempted Moses they being devils that tempted Moses yet he being dead these their children put their trust in his Writings and condemns their own Fathers saying Had we lived and seen those things and great wonders our Fathers saw Moses and the Prophets did we would never have murmured against Moses nor have persecuted the Prophets as our Fathers did But when the greatest wonder of all that ever God did for the satisfaction of mans minde was done upon earth that is God manifest in flesh the God and Savior of the world become very man so that men might talk with God in flesh as a man talketh with his friend Even that Prophet that should be raised up like unto Moses whom Moses advised the Generations to come to hear him and all the Prophets foretold of him yet when he was come these Jews did not believe him no more than their Fathers did believe Moses but they tempted him as their Fathers tempted Moses Neither did Christ accuse nor judge these Jews nor their Fathers for unbelief but leaves them to Moses in whom they trusted so that Moses and the Prophets shall be the Judges of all those that put their trust in their Writings and who ever did or doth truely believe their Writings concerning Christ to come or truely believe when he was come they are all justified and shall be saved by the Writings of Moses and the Prophets So on the contrary all those Jews that read Moses Writings and the Prophets and professed obedience unto them yet did not truely believe them but rather despised and persecuted those that foretold of a Christ the Savior and the children of those Jews persecuted the Savior himself these I say are all to be accused and judged by Moses and the Prophets for they made a profession of their Writings but understood nor believed nothing of them so these Jews have appeared before the Judgement-seat of Christ and they will have no other Accuser or Judge but Moses in whose Letter men put their trust So that Moses will be always speaking in the conscience as the blood of Abel did in Cains conscience fear and horror And this is the Judgement-seat of Christ that these men aforesaid shall and hath appeared before for Moses and the Prophets were Judges in Christs stead So that all Commissionated men whom God hath chosen to reveal the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven to mankinde they are all Judges and are in Christs stead and what Judgement they give in spiritual matters Christ doth own as his own Judgement so that who ever is judged by any of these Judges they may be said to be judged whether it be the Sentence of Justification or Sentence of Condemnation to eternity and that they received this Sentence before the Judgement-seat of Christ Also these Judges shall all sit upon Thrones of Immortal Glory in the Celestial Heavens being faithful here upon earth as Moses was in his house that was in his Commission of the Law and the Apostles in the Gospel and we the Witnesses of the Spirit according to the tenor of our Commission have been faithful also so that Moses the Prophets and Apostles and we the Witnesses of the Spirit shall sit upon Thrones of Glory as Judges in the presence of Christ our God our King and our Redeemer in the highest Heavens So much concerning the Judgement-seat of Christ 13. The same page Muggleton saith Because he hath passed Sentence upon the Quakers they shall never grow to have more experience in Visions and Revelations but shall wither Here saith Fox are more of Muggleton's Lies for saith he the truth spreads yea and will spread over the whole world more and more CHAP. XVI ANSWER I Do know and affirm that those Speakers of the Quakers and others whom I have passed the Sentence of eternal Damnation upon that they have not nor do grow in any Experience nor Revelation since the Sentence of damnation was passed on them as experience doth plainly manifest and many will witness unto it And as for Fox himself what Experience and new Revelation of Scripture have you had since you were damned a matter of fourteen years ago Have you published any other things but what you did at the first no not so much as you did at the first for then it was your Principle of Zeal to fall into Witchcraft-fits supposing it was the Spirit of Christ that moved you to foam at the mouth and sigh and groan and swell with spiritual Witchcraft and howl and groan as if hell were like to burst in you and perhaps a while after your spirit would break forth into a many non-sensical words as if the devil had broke forth out of hell was not this your practice and were not these the most eminent Quakers counted amongst you who had those Witchcraft-fits for the Quakers revelation doth arise in them onely when the Witchcraft-fit is upon them nay I have known some that have followed the Quakers desiring to be of them and earnestly desiring in their Meetings to have those Fits as other Quakers had for they thought such persons who had those Witchcraft-fits to be much in the favor of God and that those Fits had been wrought by the Spirit of Christ and that he had revealed great things unto them and because the parties aforesaid could not produce those Fits in themselves as they saw others have notwithstanding their melancholy life their framing their outward aparrel and observing every motion in the minde according to the Quakers doctrine they left no stone unturned nor no endeavor neglected in the Quakers way that