workes workes whereas there is no such God no such Godhead which is delighted with these things And to 7. Serm. in Hebr. 11. God careth not greatly what kind or what notable workes we doe Tindall in Fox his Acts printed 1610. p. 1138. There is no To make water pleaseth God as much as preaching work better then an other to please God To make water to wash dishes to be a sowter or an Apostle all is one To wash dishes and to preach all is one as touching the deed to please God Other Protestants as testifieth Schusselburg to 7. Catal. Haeret. p. 551. Melancthon in Respons ad artic Bauar to 3. and Manlius in locis tit de Eccles saye God careth not for good workes And the same also do they thinke who as we shall relate hereafter saye that before God good workes are mere iniquities filth stench and dung For surely God careth not for such things THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that good workes are a sweet sauour before God are liked of God please God are pleasing before God The like saye Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that God careth not for workes careth not at all for them doth not regard or respect them is not delighted with them careth not what notable workes we doe maketh no accounte of them yea greatly loatheth them that to wash dishes to make water to playe the cobler pleaseth God as well as to be an Apostle ART XIV WHETHER GOD BE WORSHIPED or serued with good workes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Isaie 19. v. 21. The Egyptians shall know our Lord in that day and shall worshippe him in hostes and in giftes God worshiped by workes Luke v. 2. c. 37. Who departed not from the temple by fastings and praiers seruing night and day CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 4. v. 23. Therefore God is so serued inspirit and trueth that as this worshippe doth not exclude the outward acts of pietie and workes of charitie towards our neighbour wherewith we worshippe and serue God in iustice so c. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther delibertate Christiana to 2. fol. 5. For we do not Not glorified by workes glorifie God by working but by beleeuing Ibid. cont Regem Angliae fol. 334. God is serued by faith onely De bonis operibus Not serued by them to 5. fol. 580. Onely faith is the true worshippe of God In c. 1. Ionae to 4. fol. 412. The true God is not serued with workes There is one onely worshippe pleasing to God to will true faith Tindal in Fox before cited God is honoured on all sides in Not worshiped by workes that we count him righteous in all his laws and ordinances and also true in all his promises Other worshippe of God is none except we make an idoll of him Confession of Basil art 13. Faith is the onely true worshippe of God The like saye other Protestants who as we shall see hereafter teach that good works are sinne before God For God is not serued or worshipped with sinne but disserued and dishonored by it THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God is worshipped and serued with good works The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that God is not glorified by working that God is not serued by works that faith is the onely true worshippe of God that God is serued by onely faith that onely faith is the worshippe of the true God that there is no other worshippe of God but to beleiue him right in all his laws and true in all his promises ART XV. WHETHER GOD DO ACcount those good workes which are not commanded SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Mark 14. v. 3. and 6. There came a woman hauing an alabaster box of ointment of pretious spike-nard and breaking the A worke not commanded good in Gods sight alabaster box she powred it out vpon his head But Iesus saied let her alone why do you molest her She hath wrought a good worke vpon me 1. Corint 7. 25. And as concerning virgins a commandment of our Lord I haue not but counsell I giue CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin l. 2. de Monachis c. 16. God is worshipped with euerie act of vertue though not commanded yet done for God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Heluet. c. 16. God liketh not workes and worshippes chosen by vs. And Confessio Saxon. c. 17. We teach that works as they say not due are no worshippe of God Luther Postilla in festo S. Ioan. fol. 92. Nothing pleaseth Workes not commanded not pleasing to God God vhich is done without his commandment Melancthon in Disput to 4. p. 602. Works not commanded from heauen are no worhippe of God Caluin 4. Institut c. 13. § 2. All voluntarie worships which we deuise without his commandment are abhominable to God In Rom. 5. v. 19. They dote who vaunte to God of their works deuised by themselues who esteemeth them no more then dung Lobechius in Disput 9. p. 184. Without Gods commandment Nor good a worke though done with neuer so good intention nor forbidden nether is nor can be good THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely affirmeth that S. Magdalens anointing of Christ though not commanded was a good worke gratefull to him that virginitie is good though not commanded The same saye Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that God liketh no worke not commanded by him that no worke not commanded is any worship of God that no worke whatsoeuer not commanded of God is good that what we do without Gods commandment is no more respected of God then dung and is abhominable to him ART XVI WHETHER GOD BE PACIfied with good works SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 〈…〉 11. and. 13. But Moyses besought the Lord his God pacified by workes God saying why 〈…〉 furie angrie against thy people c. And our lord was pacified 〈…〉 the euill which he had spoken against his people 2. Paralipomen 30. v. 18. and 20. And 〈…〉 for them saying c. Whome our Lord heard and was pacified to the people Psalme 105. v. 30. And Phinees stood and pacified and the slaughter ceased Ezech. 43. v. 27. The preists shall make your holocausts vpon the altar and those which they offer for peace and I will be pacified toward you saieth our lord God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Matth. 17. v. 21. Diuers examples in Scripture do teach vs the force and power of fasting ioyned with praier for to pacifie God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in c. 1. Ionae to 4. fol. 411. Papists haue an opinion that God can be pacified with our good workes whē as there is no No God that is pacified by workes where such a God In Galat. 2. to 5. fol. 363. The workes which I do according to Gods law do not pacifie his wrathe but prouoke it Workes prouoke Gods wrath Caluin 4. Inst c. 15. § 4. It is the doctrin of the Scripture that our good works are alwaies stained with
vnited THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ was inuocated as he was Sonne of Dauid and as in the time of his passion he had not yet entred into his kingdome and that he was adored as he was a child and the sonne of Marie The same saye Catholiks Protestants expressely saye that Christ as man is not to be inuocated that according to his humanitie he heareth not our praiers in heauen that as man he is no way to be worshipped that Godhead is the onely proper obiect of religious worshippe that who direct their inuocation or adoration to Christs humanitie blaspheme God are true Idolaters blaspheme God and are accursed by Gods mouth Which are so opposite to Scripture as Some Protestants confesse it See l. 2. c. vlt. ART IV. WHETHER CHRIST AS MAN or the humanitie of Christ had power to quicken to remitte sinnes to worke miracles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Mathew 9. v. 6. and 8. But that you may know that the Christ as maÌ„ had power to forgiue sinnes Sonne of man hath power in earth to forgiue sinnes And the multitudes seing it were affraied glorified God that gaue such power to men Ihon. 6. v. 54. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood To giue life hath life euerlasting Acts. 4. vers 10. In the name of Iesus Christ of Nazareth To worke miracles whom you did crucifie whom God hath raised from the dead in this same this man standeth before you whole Hebrews 9. v. 19. For if the blood of goates and of oxen and the asses of an heifer being sprincled sanctifieth the polluted to the cleansing of the flesh how much more shall the blood of Christ who by the holie Ghost offered him selfe vnspotted vnto God To puâ—ge from sinne cleanse our conscience from dead workes to serue the liuing God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. parte 416. art 11. The power of forgiuing sinnes consisteth in Christs diuine nature by authoritie but in his humane nature it is instrumentally and by ministerie PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Galat. 3. v. 5. Not Christ himselfe as man could As man he could not worke a miracle Not profitable as man worke a true miracle Zuinglius l. de ver falsa relig c. de Euchar. to 2. Christ is profitable to vs on that parte wherewith he descended from heauen not on that whereby he was borne of the immaculate Virgin Agayne He could be profitable onely according to his diuinitie Which he repeateth in Ioan. 6. to m. 4. and there addeth Christs flesh profiteth nothing nothing at all His flesh profiteth nothing at all Had no power to giue life Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 276. In the meane time we deny that Christs flesh is truly viuificall A gayne But that there is any power or vertue of quickning in Christs flesh for which power imparted to it it may be saied viuificall and to quicken that we deny And p. 279. The vertue of quickning is so proper to the diuinitie as it cannot be communicated euen to the flesh of Christ nor to any other creature vnlesse it be turned into the diuinitie Lib. cont Brent col 1. pag. 527. he denieth that Christs humanitie forgiueth sinnes by vertue of the diuinitie which had giuen this power to it And p. 545. saieth Note that the power of sauing is not attributed to the flesh though assumpted but to the diuinitie of which it is assumpted And in Colloq cit p. 228. The raising of the dead is the worke of the diuinitie Nor to raise the dead onely which cannot be attributed to the humanitie of Christ Daneus Controu 4. q. 9. p. 195. Christ the Sonne of man liuing on earth remitted sinnes but not as man but as God as in Remitted not sinnes as maÌ„ the same diuine nature he wrought miracles not as man Sadeel respons ad Art abiurat 5. Our life firstly properly and precisely proceedeth from the diuine nature And the diuines Nor heareth our praiers of Heidelberg before cited Christ as man heareth not our praiers in heauen THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Sonne of man had in earth power to forgiue sinnes that who eateth his flesh hath life euerlasting that in the name of Christ crucified miracles were wrought that his blood clenseth our consciences from sinnes The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach the contrarie that Christ as man was not profitable vnto vs that his flesh profiteth nothing at all that it is not viuificall not hath any vertue of quickning that the diuinitie hath not giuen it any power of forgiuen sinnes that our life proceedeth precisely from the diuinitie that Christ as man did not forgiue sinnes did not worke any miracle could not worke any miracle that the raising of the dead caÌ„not be attributed to his humanitie Which are so contrarie to the Scripture as diuers Protestants do acknowledge it See l. 2. c. 30. ART V. WHETHER CHRIST AS MAN or his humanitie were euerie where SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Mathew 28. v. 6. I know that you seeke Iesus that was crucified Christs bodie not in the Sepulcher after his resurrection He is not here Ihon 11. v. 15. Iesus saied to them plainly Lazarus is dead and Not where Lazarus died Not whereâ—e was sought I am glad for your sake that you may beleiue because I was not there And c. 6. v. 24. When therefore the multitude saw that Iesus was not there not his disciples they c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Card. Bellarmin l. 3. de Incarnat c. 11. That Christs humanitie is eueriewhere is against Scripture PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Luther in Defens verb. caenae to 7. fol. 394. Christ manifestly Christs bodie in heauen and earth testifieth that his bodie is at once in heauen and in earth or rather present euery where Which he oftentimes repeateth Wherevpon Zuinglius resp ad Confes Lutheri to 2. fol. 446. saieth that Luther affirmeth Christ to be in euerie In eueriâ— place place no lesse according to his humane nature then his diuine Brentius apud Bezam lib. cont ipsum vol. 1. Theol. p. 516. It is necessarie that wheresoeuer the diuinitie of Christ is Wheresoeuer his godhead is there also he haue with him his humane nature Gerlachius tom 2. disput 2. p. 25. We put the humane nature of Christ almightie and in all places Smidelin in Hospin part 2. Hist fol. 323. The Humanitie of Christ is euerie where Which he and his followers defended openly in the Conference at Mulbrun and Montbelgard THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ as man was not in the sepulcher after his resurrection that he was not where Lazarus died that he was not where the Iewes sought him The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christs bodie is euery where that his humanitie is wheresoeuer his diuinitie is that his humane nature is in all places Which is so opposite to Scripture as manie Protestants
Church to the den of theues from the assured path of saluation to the open way of damnation Finally I aduertise the Reader that if at anie time I vse anie sharp words against Protestants I intend them onely against their teachers and leaders yet vse I the common name of Protestants that the rest may know that the crimes which I obiect vnto them proceed of their doctrin and thereby flie and reiect it lest they become partakers of the crimes I shew them the gulfe of impietie into which their guides doe lead them let them not be offended with me that I set before their eyes the impietie of the doctrin which they are tought but let them be angrie with their teachers who vnder the most false pretense of Scripture and Gods word haue thaught them such impious doctrin and so contrarie to Gods words And I hartely pray God and euer shal that he open their eyes that they may see the most imminent and greiuous danger wherein they stand and auoide it lighten with his true light that zeale which they haue to his word Rom. 10. lest they perish for euer with them who had zeale but not according to knowledge Whether Catholiks or Protestants be the true owners of the holie Scripture FIRST CHAPTER BECAVSE this question of the true owners How important this question is of the holie Scripture is of such moment as by it may be decided all controuersies as shall hereafter appeare and withall the decision thereof is so easie and cleare as euerie one may perceaue it and notwithstanding hath not as yet to my knowledge beene particularly handled of anie albeit as we shall see out of Tertullian it should haue beene handled before anie question of Scripture I will begin first with it And because Protestants auouch them selues to be the true owners of the Scripture I need not proue to them that ether Catholiks or they are the true owners thereof which the very question doth suppose but it will suffice against them that I shew that according to all reason Catholiks are to be iudged the true owners of Scripture rather then they The first proofe hereof I will take from the actuall The first title for Cathol actual possession possession of the Scripture in which Catholiks peacably were when Luther and the Protestants first began to chalenge the Scripture for theirs For reason teacheth vs to iudge the Possessor of anie thing to be the true owner of the same and possession to be a sufficient title of houlding it vnles the contrarie be manifestly proued and conuinced as we see dayly in lands and temporall goods and otherewise the dominion of things would be vncertaine amongst men Wherevpon the law teacheth the Possessor to plead possession as a sufficient title and to say possideo quia possideo I possesse because I possesse But Protestants can not manifestly disproue no nor yet colourably impugne the right of the Catholiks possession of the holie Scripture as shall hereafter appeare Therefore according to all reason Catholiks vpon this title of their possession are to be iudged true owners of the Scripture The second proof I will take from the Catholiks vndoubted Second title peacable possession possession thereof and vnquestioned by Protestants for manie ages That Protestants did not for manie ages call the Catholiks possessions of the Scripture into question is manifest by the manie and plaine confessions of Protestants that their Church was inuisible before Luther for manie ages which I haue related in my second booke of the Author of the Protestant Church c. 4. And reason teacheth vs to accounte him the true owner of a thing who without all question or clame of anie hath hould it peacably for manie ages together Wherevpon the law alloweth prescription of certaine yeares after which time expired it permitteth not the possession to be called in question Besides it is no way likelie that the true Church of God would suffer her self to be bereaued of so heauenlie a treasure as is the holie Scripture and yet not once in anie corner of the world for manie ages crie after the theefe or chalenge her treasure which she did see was held of others Will men euerie day venture their liues for sauing or recouering a little land or goods and would not the Church of God the onely true owner of the Scripture for manie ages once open her mouth to chalenge so heauenlie a treasure especially the Scripture being as Protestants teach the onely Martyr in disput oxon p. 143. Pareus Coll. Theol. 3. disp 2. externall infallible meane to attayne faith and as necessarie to the saluation of the Church as meate is to the life of man what care had the Church offo great a treasure left vnto here by Christ what account made she of faith and saluation if for manie ages she would not so much as chalenge the onely externall infallible and necessarie means to obtayne them Would the primitiue Church suffer so manie torments and cruell death as we read in the Ecclesiastical Historie rather then loose the holie Scriptures which the Heathens would haue taken from her and would she afterward suffer Papists to take it from her without muttering one word or laying clame to it for manie ages together Moreouer how had she faith how obtained she saluation if for maine ages she lost the onely externall infallible and necessarie meanes to obtayne them The third proof is that the Catholiks possession of the Scripture is farre more ancient then the Protestāts possession Third title ancientest possession thereof For euident it is that that Christian Church which is the first and ancientest possessor of the holie Scripture is the onely true owner of the same because the Apostles and Euangelists left their writings first and Qui prior est tempore potior est iure Reg. iuris onely to the true Church and gaue her the testament and last will of Christ her sponse so that the true Christrian Church had the Scripture before anie false Christian Church had it and likewise certaine it is that she neuer lost it since it was deliuered vnto her but as she is the pillar of truth so she hath faithfully kept this heauenly truth deliuered vnto her in writing and consequently is ancienter possessor of the Scripture then anie false Christian Church can be And this reason the ancient Christians vsed against Heretiks as appeareth by these words of Tertullian lib. de Praescript c. 37. It is my possession I possesse it of ould I possesse it first I am the herie of the Apostles And lib. 4. cont Mart. c. 4. I say my Bible is true Marcion saieth His. I say Marcions Bible is corrupted Marcion saieth Mine is corrupted what shall end our controuersie but order of time giuing authoritie to that which is found to be ancienter and reiecting that which is later For in that falsitie is a corruption of trueth trueth must needs be before falsitie
order of the matter did require that to be first proposed which alone is now to be disputed Fourthly whose is the faith whose is the Scripture Fourthly it is euident that if anie Protestant will notwithstanding all that hath beene saied iudge that Protestants are the true owners of Scripture rather then Catholiks he will giue that iudgment in a matter of such great moment which he would be ashamed to giue in a question of the least trifle in the world For who seing that one hath nine titles to a peece of ground of all which titles his aduersarie hath no pretence and that he hath as good if not farre better shew also of the tenth title as his aduersarie hath would not be ashamed to adiudge the land to his aduersarie and cast him out of possession who was actuall possessor when the matter came first in question was peacable possessor for manie ages was the ancienter possessor and of whose possession no Note this beginning can be found but from the true lord and from whom his aduersarie hath whatsoeuer he hath whose lawfull possession thereof all kinde of aduersaries do some time confesse and put his aduersarie in possession who can pretend no title but that which alone sufficeth not and which also for better agreeth to the ancient possessor If anie say that in wordly matters reason would giue iudgment for the ancient possessor but not in heauenlie or deuine matters as the Scripture is I demand what Scripture what worde of God teacheth vs to checke the light of reason concerning the true possession of the Scripture If none why then doe we not follow reason in this matter of fact concerning the true possession of Scripture as well as in others Besides this were to grante that the light of reason is in this matter with Catholiks against Protestants and consequently that to be a Protetestant one must first cast away reason euen in a matter which is vnder the reach of reason as is who are the true owners of the Scriptures Moreouer the very end of this Balance is no other then to shew that if we will follow the light of reason and true prudence we ought to imbrace the Catholik religion and reiect the Protestant and that to doe otherwise is to cast away reason and prudence and to become vnreasonable and imprudent men and to say that Christ hath giuen vs a Religion which is not onely aboue reason but euen contrarie to reason and that also in matters subiect to reason and that we can not become faithfull men but we must first become vnreasonable men not receaue his light of faith before we put out his light of reason wherewith he hath made vs like to him selfe and superiours to beasts Thus we see how farre in all reason and prudence Catholiks are aboue Protestants for the right claime or iust possession of holie Scripture Now let vs see in the rest of this booke how farre also they are aboue them for the letter or wordes of Scripture and in the second booke how farre they are aboue them for the true sense thereof A SVMME OF THE MORE MANIFEST CONtradictions betwene the expresse wordes of the holie Scripture and of Protestants with the Chapter and Article where they may be read more at large which will much serue to vnderstand and remember better those which follow CHAPTER II. OF GOD. SCRIPTVRE Thou are not a God that willeth iniquitie God willeth not iniquitie He willeth iniquitie Protestants God will haue iniquitie to be committed God willeth iniquitie with a hidden will He willeth sin He willeth sin to be done He would haue Adam to sin to fall to reuoult See more c. 2. article 1. Scripture Our iust lord in the middes thereof will not doe God doth not iniquitie iniquitie Protestants God worketh euill in vs The euils of sin are He doth iniquitie done by the effectuall working of God Dauids adulterie is properly Gods worke Iudas his treacherie is his proper worke as the vocation of S. Paul Pharao his crueltie is attributed to Gods counsell in no other sense then the Egiptians fauoure towards his people God procureth sin it selfe Se more c. 2. art 4. Scripture He God hath commanded no man to doe impiously God commaÌ„deth not to sin He commandeth to sin Protestants God biddeth Sathan goe to be a lying spirit By Gods commandment Sathan is a lying spirit God giueth him a plaine commandment to deceaue Sathan was sent to deceaue by the expresse commandment of God See art 6. Scripture God is not a tempter of euils and he tempteth no God tempeteth not to sin man Protestants God is the author of temptation God moueth He tempâ—eth to sin the offenders to sin pushed the Iewes to kill his Sonne stirreth vp the theefs will to kill driueth to sin by tempting inclineth the wills of wicked men into greeuous sins See more art 7. Scripture Thou hatest all that worke iniquitie Protestants God is angrie with the elect when they sinne but God hateth all that worke iniquitie He hateth not all such God iustifieth not the impious He iustifieth the impious neuer hateth them He hateth all iniquitie but not all in whome iniquitie is See art 9. Scripture He that iustifieth the impious is abhominable before God Protestants Seing God forbiddeth to iustifie the impious Prou. 17. can he be saied to do that rightly which him self forbiddeth Rightly Albeit we be wicked yet are we accounted of the lord for iust A wicked man may be pronounced iust according to the Ghospell Christ can iustifie such as are impious and want all good workes See more art 10. Scripture Against Aaron God being exceeding angrie God is angrie with the faithfull wheÌ„ they sin He is not angrie with theÌ„ God is pleased with good workes He is not pleased with them God is serued with good workes He is not serued with them he would haue destroied him Protestants God alwaies withouldeth his anger from the faithfull God is not angrie with sinners See art 11. Scripture VVe doe these thinges which are pleasing before him with such hostes God is pleased Protestants God careth not for workes we foolishly feigne that God is much delighted with our workes There is no such God which is delighted with our good workes To wash dishes and to preach is all one as for pleasing God See more art 13. Scripture By fastings and praiers seruing God day and night Protestants The true God is not serued with workes There is one only worship pleasing to God to wit true faith God is serued by faith only Faith is the onely true worship of God See art 14. Scripture Phinees stoode pacified and the slaughter ceased God is pacified by good workes He is not pacified by theÌ„ God will haue his commaÌ„dments kept He will not haue theÌ„ kept Protestants There is no such God that can be pacified with our good workes The workes which I do according to Gods law
power did open the shut dores The dores were not shut in the very instant of his passing See more art 23. Scripture Hauing a great high preist that hath penetrated Christ penetrated the heauen Not penetrated them Christ praieth for vs. He praieth not for vs. the heauenes Iesus the Sonne of God Protestants Christ ascended without penetration of quantities VVe admit no penetration See art 14. Scripture I will aske the Father VVho also maketh intercession for vs. Protestants VVe may not imagin that Christ as a Suppliant praieth for vs. His death and resurrection are in steed of an eternall intercession See more art 25. CHAPTER IV. OF ANGELS AND SAINTES SCripture And the Angell of our Lord answered and saied O Angels pray for vs. Lord of Hostes how long will thou not haue mercie on Hierusalem Protestants The Scripture teacheth not that Angels pray They pray not We denie that the holie Angels do pray in particular for our necessities See art 4. Scripture And he preuailed against the Angel and was Angels to be praied vnto Not to be praied vnto strenghtned and he wept and besought him Protestants The inuocation of Saints and Angels is impious See art 8. Scripture Our lord opened the eyes of Balaam and he saw the Angels to be bowed vnto Angel standing in the way with a drawne sword and he adored him flat to the ground Protestants We must beware that we nether adore nor worship Not to be bowed vnto Angels He could not fall downe to the Angel without diminishing Gods honour See art 11. Scripture Nether take thou away thy mercie from vs for God to be praied by the names of Saintes Not so to be praied Abraham thy beloued and Isaac thy seruant and Israel the holie one Protestants In the Prophets there is not found anie such inuocation Heare me o God for Abraham God is not to be besought by the names of Saintes See more art 9. Scripture For your selues know how you ought to imitate vs. Saintes to be imitated Not to be imitated God protecteth vs for the Saintes sake Not for their sakes Some Saintes bad power to worke miracles None had such power Santes receaue men into eternall tabernacles They do not receaue Be ye followers of me Protestants These trifles ought not to be sung to the people that they should imitate the Saintes God requireth that we follow his scripture only and not the examples of Saintes See art 12. Scripture I will protect this cittie and saue it for my self and for Dauid my seruant Protestants It is not to be borne that they say through Gods liberalitie and Christs grace the merits of Saints do profit vs to protection See art 10. Scripture And he gaue them power to cure infirmities and to cast out Diuels Protestants God neuer gaue anie man power of working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly See art 16. Scripture Make vnto you freinds of the mammon of iniquitie that when you faile they may receaue you into the eternall tabernacles Protestants VVe must not vnderstand that men shall receaue vs into eternall tabernacles See art 13. Scripture They shal be priests of God and Christ and shall Saints reigne with him reigne with him Protestants The Saints do not reigne with Christ. See art They reigne not with him 16. Scripture And he that shall ouercome and keepe my workes Saintes rule nations vnto the end I will giue him power ouer the nations and he shall rule them with a rodde of yron Protestants It is an errour that Angels or the soules of the They rule them not blessed men are appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs. See art 16. cit CHAPTER V. OF THE SCRIPTVRE OR WORD OF GOD. SCripture Paule according to the wisdome giuen him hath Some things in Scripture are hard written as also in all Epistles speaking in them of these things in which are certaine hard to be vnderstood Protestants Peter saieth not that Paules Epistles are obscure No thing hard no nor that there are some obscure things in Paules Epistles No parte of the Scripture is obscure How can the Scripture be called obscure in anie parte See more art 1. Scripture Iesus began to preach and say Doe pennance for The Ghospel preacheth pennance It preacheth it not the kingdom of heaune is at hand Protestants The Ghospell properly is not a preaching of pennance The Ghospell preacheth not to vs that this or that is to be done or exacteth any thing of vs. See more art 4. Scripture If thou will enter into life keepe the commandments Promiseth life conditionally Protestants The Ghospell promiseth saluation euen to those Not conditionally that haue no good workes at all The Ghospel requireth not workes to saluation See more art 6. Ghospell not contrarie to the law Scripture Doe we then destroie the law by faith God forbid But we establish the law Protestants The Ghospell is truly opposite to the law The law It is contrarie to it aad the Ghospell of themselues wholy fight one with the other See more art 7. Scripture All things must needs be fulfilled which are written Moises law commandeth faith in Christ It commandeth it not Traditions to be kept Not to be kept in the law of Moises and the Prophets and the Psalmes of me Protestants Faith in Christ the law neuer knew The law of Moises commandeth not faith in Christ See more art 8. Scripture Hould the traditions which you haue learnt whether it be by word or by our epistle Protestants VVe care not for vnwritten traditions we acknowledge no word but that which is written See more art 9. CHAPTER VI. OF S. PETER AND THE APOSTLES SCripture Thou art Peter and vpon this rock will I build Church built vpon Peter my Church Protestants Peter is not rock because Christ did not build Not vpon Peter his Church vpon Peter See more art 2. Scripture And I say to thee Thou art Peter And to thee Keyos giuen to Peter I will giue the keyes of the kingdome of heauen Protestants Christ called faith the rock to which rock not to Not giuen to him Peter be gaue these keyâ—s See art 3. Scripture I haue praied for thee Peter that thy faith faile Peters faith failed not It failed not Protestants For a time surely Peters saith failed whiles he denied Christ It is a blasphemous speech that Peter denying Christ did not lese his faith See more art 4. Scripture And the wall of the cittie hauing twelue foundations The Apostles foundations and in them twelue names of the twelue Apostles of the lambe Protestants The Apostles were not the foundations See Not foundations more art 5. Scripture He that heareth you heareth me The Apostles simply to be heard Not simply to be heard Protestants The Apostles be not simply to be heard but to be examined according to the rule of Scripture S. Paules
ground and adoring saied c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 25. By the Images which we kisse and to which we put of our hatts we worshippe the Saints whose images they are PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Mulhusnia art 10. We dislike the veneration Not to be worshipped of Saints And Heluet. c. 5. We nether adore nor worshippe nor inuocate the Saints in heauen Perkins reform Cathol Controu 14. c. 2. p. 249. Because No not with ciuill worshippe Angels appeare not now as in former times not so much as ciuill adoratiō in anie bodilie gesture is to be done vnto them We denie that anie ciuill worshippe in bending of the knee or prostrating of the bodie is to be giuen to the Saints Humfrey ad Ration 3. Campiani pag. 263. Vigilantius tought that Saints are not to be reuerenced nor that we ought Not to be reuerenced superstitiously to runne to their monuments We say the same Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 6. c. 3. Papists worshippe Angels and the Saints Luther postilla in Domin 23. post Trinit For what other was the worshippe and reuerence of Saints but a diuelish thing Caluin 1. Instit c. 12. § 3. He could not fall downe to the Angel without diminishing of Gods glorie Bullinger Decad. 4. form 9. We must be ware that we nether adore inuocate or worshippe Angels The same say Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Lot seing Angels adored prostrate on the ground that Iosue hearing of an Angel that he was a Prince of Gods hoaste fell flat on the groūd and adored that Balaam adored flat to the ground an Angel and yet was not reprehended therefore ether of the Angel or of the Scripture Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that it is not lawfull to reuerence venerate adore worshippe or bow to the Angels or Saints but it is a diuelish thing And yet Luther himselfe thus writeth epist ad Erphurdienses tom 7. fol. 500. I do not thinke that they are to be reiected or condemned who whorshippe Saints without presuming trust For whatsoeuer they doe to Saints they do to Christ. Nether can it be but Christ is partaker of the honour which is giuen to Saints ART XII WHETHER SAINTS BE TO be imitated of vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 11. v. 1. Be ye followers of me as I also of Christ Philippen 3. ver 17. Be followers of me brethren and obserue Saints to be imitated and followed them that walke so as you haue our forme 2. Thessalon 3. v. 7. For your selues know how you ought to imitate vs. Hebr. 13. v. 7. Remember your Prelats who haue spoaken the word of God to you the end of whose conuersation beholding imitate their faith CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 9. v. 54. The faithfull Christians piously and carefully imitate the examples of the holie Fathers PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther Postilla in Festo S. Ioann fol. 378. These trifles Saints not to be imitated or followed ought not be sung vnto the people out of the pulpits in preaching that they should imitate the Saints and follow their footesteppes And in ferijs eiusdem fol. 91. An ould error hath gotten possession and force that we all looke vpon the deeds and liues of Saints and endeauour to follow them thinking like fooles that this is a great pietie The way of the Lord admitteth not examples of Saints but in all things expecteth the commandments of the Lord onely In die Epiphaniae fol. 130. God Nor their examples requireth that we follow his onely Scripture and not the examples of Saints THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that we must follow Saints and imitate them Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that Saints are not to be imitated or followed their examples not to be admitted that it is an errour to looke vpon the liues of Saints and follow them ART XIII WHETHER HOLIE MEN receaue vs into euerlasting tabernacles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 16. v. 9. And I say vnto you Make vnto you friends of Holie men receaue vs into Heauen the mammon of iniquitie that when you faile they may receaue you into the eternall tabernacles CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 16. ver 9. Christ teacheth that they to whome we haue done good do receaue vs into eternall tabernacles that is Christ for thē not onely by reason of the good worke but also for their praiers giueth vs life euerlasting PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther postilla in Dom. 9. post Trinit fol. 107. We must They receaue vs not into Heauen not vnderstand that men shall receaue vs into eternall tabernacles Illyricus in Claue part 2. tractar 6. Pore men are saied to receaue their benefactours into eternall tabernacles whereas this is the deed of the Father alone for the merit of his Sonne Caluin in Lucae 16. vers 9. citat He meaneth not that we must get patrons and intreatours who by their protection may sheild and defend vs. But they do fondely and absurdly who hereupon gather that we are holpen by the praiers or suffrages of the dead THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that holie men to whome we haue done good do receaue vs into eternall tabernacles The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that no men receaue vs into eternall tabernacles that that is the deed of the Father alone that we are not to get patrons or intreatours for vs. ART XIV WHETHER ANIE SAINT may be called our hope SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Thessalon 2. v. 18. For what is our hope or ioy or crowne Saints called our hope of glorie Are not you before our Lord Iesus in his coming For you are our glorie and ioy Ihon 5. v. 45. Thinke not that I will accuse you to the Father there is that accuseth you Moises in whome you trust CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de bonis oper in part c. 15. The B. Virgin is called our hope because after God we trust especially in her intercession PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Cōfes p. 109. Many kinds of praiers were brought Not to be so called in which had horrible blasphemies as when the Virgin is termed of infidels the gate of saluation our hope Beza in Ioan. 2. v. 5. Idolatrie hath so farre preuailed that they are not ashamed to call Marie the Queene of heauen their hope and saluation P. Martyr in 1. Cor. c. 3. They call the B. Virgin their hope as if they would put their hope in a creature Pareus in Colloq 3. Swal You salute Marie by the Title of your hope Which salutation tendeth to the dishonour of God THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Thessalonians were the hope ioy and crowne of glorie of the Apostle before our Lord that the Iews did trust in Moises and yet were not reprehended therefore Catholiks say the like Protestants expressely say that it tendeth to the dishonour of
authoritie of the Church THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Church is the pillar and ground of trueth The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the Church doth not sustaine or conserue the trueth that faith relieth not vpon her authoritie that trueth doth not relie vpon her authoritie as a foundation no not in regard or respect of vs. THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF the Church What hath beene repeated in this Chapter doth make manifest that Protestants describe vnto vs a Church quite different from that which the holie Scripture and Catholikes propose For the Scripture and Catholiks teach that the Church is but one Protestants say there are twoe Churches They say she containeth both badde and reprobates that she endureth for euer is alwaies visible infallible in faith is simply in all things to be heard and is the pillar of faith touching vs All which points Protestants denie They also make manifest that Protestants steale from the Church a great parte of her to wit the badde and reprobate faithfull and manie of her chiefe properties namely vnitie perpetuitie continuall visibilitie infallibilitie and our dependencie vpon her in beleife And thus much of the Church Now of Temples or materiall Churches CHAPTER VIII OF TEMPLES OR MATERIALL CHVRCHES ART I. WHETHER THE CHVRCHES be also for priuat praier SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. KINGS 3. cap. 8. ver 41. Moreouer also the stranger Place of praier for a straÌ„ger which is not of thy people Israel when he shall come from a farre countrie for thy name and shall pray in this place thou shalt heare in heauen in the firmament of thy habitation and shalt do all things for which the stranger shall inuocate thee 2. Paralipomen 6. vers 21. Whosoeuer shall pray in this For whomsoeuer place heare out of thy habitation that is from the heauens and be propitious Mathew 21. vers 13. It is written my house shal be called a house of praier Luc. 2. v 37. Who departed not from the temple by fastings For S. Anne and praiers seruing night and day c. 24. v. 53. And they were alwaies in the Temple praising and blessing God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Cardin. Bellarm. lib. 3. de Santis cap. 4. The Churches of Christians are rightly instituted for to pray also priuate praiers PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Tindal in Fox Actes 1610. pag. 1138. Churches are for preaching For preaching onely onely And Fox addeth This article containeth nether errour nor honestie Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 327. Nether is this a lawfull end Not for priuat praier of Churches that the faithfull pray priuaty in them Luther in Festo Dedicat. Templi fol. 447. The people which beleiue in Christ are all iust and subiect to no law especially Not dedicated to praier that pertaineth to ceremonies of temples And therefore now amongst them there is no temple dedicated to praier And hereupon Protestants in Confes Heluet. c. 23. bidde them beware that they wearie not the people with to long praier And in Confess Argentinen cap. 21. They detest our long paier as also doth Caluin in Matth. 6. ver 7. and finally in their Synod at Dordrach art 46. they define that publik euening praiers are not to be brought in where they are not in vse and to be taken away where they are So well these men loue praiers in Churches THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Gods Church is the house of praier for all people a place of praier where the stranger may make his praier and be heard that Anna night and day praied in the temple that the Apostles were alwaies in the temple praising God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Churches are onely for preaching that is no lawfull end of Churches to pray priuatly in them that Christians haue no temple dedicated to praier and forbidde long and euening praier in Churches ART II. WHETHER CHVRCHES BE to be adorned SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 35. is described the wonderfull adorning of the tabernacle Churches are to be adorned made by Gods commandment and 3. Reg. 6. the most rich ornaments of the temple made by Salomon Psalme 25. v. 8. I haue loued the beautie of thy house Marc. 14. v. 15. Say to the maister of the house that the Maister saieth where is my refectorie where I may eate my Paske with my disciples And he will shew you a great chamber adorned and there prepare for vs. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 12. v. 3. Sumptuous dâ—cking and honorable adorning when they are done in the honour of God and for his worshippe ether in the adorning or magnifencie of Churches or in solemne administration of Sacraments doe please God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Problemate c. de ornatu temploruÌ„ The errour Not to be adorned of adorning temples began to be strange in Constantins time and the Fathers theÌ„ being caried away with the custome do exact the adorning of temples Caluin in Math. 26. v. 11 Let vs not deuise sumptuous worshippes of God with the Papists In Ioan. 12. v. 6. Surely God careth not for externall pompe wherefore they are preposterous interpreters who out of Christs answere do infer that costly and magnificall worshipps do please God Tigurini apud Hospin part 2. Hist fol. 24. The ornaments of Churches belonge not to the true worshippe of God Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 327. It is not onely superfluous but also vaine and superstitious and in parte ethnicall also and Iewish to make great and vnprofitable expenses in adorning Churches as euerie where vseth to be done in Poperie For that theatricall brauerie is contrarie to the simplicitie of Christian religion THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God himselfe comcommanded the tabernacle to be adorned that Salomon by his instinct adorned the temple that Dauid loued the beautie of Gods house that Christ made choice of a great and adorned chamber wherein he should celebrate the Eucharist The same say Catholiks ProtestaÌ„ts expressely say that the adorning of Churches is an errour superfluous vaine superstitious ethnicall and Iudaicall and contrarie to Christian religion that magnificall and costlie worships please not God ART III. WHETHER IT BE LAWEFVLL to put the Images of Angels or Saintes in Churches SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 25. v. 18. God thus commandeth Two Cherubins Images in the Temple also thou shalt make of beaten gould on both sides of the Oracle And vers 22. And I will speake to thee ouer the Propitiatorie and from the middest of the two Cherubins which shal be vpon the arke of testimonie all things which I will coÌ„mand the children of Israel by thee 3. Reg. 6. vers 23. And he Salomon made in the Oracle two Cherubs of oliue trees of ten cubits in height And v. 27. And he put the Cherubs in the middest of the inner temple CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Session 25. c. de Inuocat The Images of Christ and other Saintes
them that they are imperfect most imperfect lame vitious not wholy pure imperfectly good haue no perfect goodnesse are not absolutely good not absolutely or simply iust defiled with manie vices disgraced with infinit filth polluted as water running through a filthie channell in parte ill and sinnes and that there is no intire good of ours in this life ART V. WHETHER THE GOOD workes of the Iust be iust or iustice in the sight of God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Deuter. 24. v. 13. But if he be pore the pledge shalt not lodge To restore a pledge is iustice before God Phinees zeale was iustice Noe Daniel and Iob had iustice Iustice in Daniel with the that night but forth with thou shall restore it vnto him that thou mayest haue iustice before our Lord thy God Psal 105. v. 30. And Phinees stood and pacified and the slaughter ceased and it was reputed to him vnto iustice Ezech. 14. ver 14. And if these three men shal be in the middest thereof Noë Daniel and Iob they by their iustice shall deliuer their owne soules saieth the Lord of hostes Daniel 6. ver 22. My God hath sent his Angel and hath shut vp the mouthes of the lyons and they haue not hurt me because before him iustice hath beene found in me Luc. 1. v. 75. That without feare being deliuered from the hand of our enemies we may serue him in holines and iustice before him all our dayes Hebr. 11. v. 33. Who by faith ouercame kingdomes wrought Saints worke iustice iustice 1. Ioan. 3. v. 12. Because his workes were wicked but his brothers iust CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton l. 6. de Iustif cap. 8. The iustice of good workes done in faith is true iustice before God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Disp to 1. f. 390. God rewardeth iustice which he Our iustice is wickednesse accounteth wickednesse and iniquitie Et in c. 53. Isaiae to 4. The iustice of Christians is onely in reputation iustice but not formally Kemnice in locis tom 2. tit de Argumentis To restore a pledge to the pore is truely a good and iust worke but not such as if it be examined according to the rigour of the law deserueth the title of iustice Caluin in Antidoto Concil Sess 6. c. 8. How farre is that Not iustice Nether wholy nor in parte newnesse which is begunne in this life from iustice Againe Will they bring me one place which witnesseth that God approueth the begūne newnesse of life for iustice ether wholy or in parte In c. 11. ver 183. It procedeth from free imputation that workes get the Farre from true iustice name of iustice which otherwise would be farre from the trueth of iustice In Rom. 3. v. 27. The law of faith leaueth no iustice No iustice in workes whatsoeuer they be In c. 11. v. 6. As often as grace is named the iustice of workes is brought to nothing Et 3. Instit c. 17. § 9. There is no worke which is not so defiled by it owne corruption that it retaineth not the honour of iustice Againe workes are iudged iust aboue their worth Pareus l. 1. de Iustif c. 19. Who make their workes euen those which they imagin to doe by the grace of Christ iustice or merits of iustice before God make idols of them and so in trueth make of them dung and dung-hill Gods l. 2. c. 10. Hou should it be true and absolute iustice which faileth in manie things l. 3. c. 8. That inherent iustice of charitie and workes is so vncertaine and doubtfull as in trueth it is none at all in the iudgment of God Et l. 4. c. 20. Whether God examine our iustice according to himselfe or according to the rule of the law it is found to be iniustice Ministri Electorales in Colloq Aldeburg p. 421. Nether Not to be called iustice can our workes be called iustice before God THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that the good workes of the Iust are iust are iustice are iustice before God that by him they are reputed for iustice that the iust shall deliuer their soules by their iustice The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that the good works of the Iust are far frō trueth of iustice retaine not the honour of iustice are not true and absolute iustice that before God they are nether wholy nor in parte iustice that the law of faith leaueth no iustice in workes that by grace the iustice of workes is brought to nothing that truely there is no iustice in the iudgment of God that God accounteth our iustice iniustice wickednesse iniquitie that who make good workes done by grace to be iustice before God make them idols and dunghill Gods ART VI. WHETHER IN THE GOOD workes of the Iust there can be any worth or worthinesse SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Philippens 1. v. 26. Onely conuerse yee worthie of the Ghospell Conuersation worthie of the Ghospell We are worthie of the lot of Saints of Christ Coloss 1. v. 12. God the Father hath made vs worthie vnto the parte of the lot of the Saintes in the light 1. Thessal 2. v. 12. As you know in what manner we desiring and comforting you haue adiured euerie one of you as a father his children that you would walke worthie of God who hath called you into his kingdome and glorie 3. Ihon. v. 6. Whome thou shalt do well bringing on their way in manner worthie of God Apoc. 3. v. 4. And they shall walke with me in whites because Saints worthie to walke with Christ they are worthie CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 4. v. 14. This place teacheth the force and worth of workes which come of the Holie Ghost against the the wicked Heretiks of our time PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther de Seruo arb to 2. f. 453. In merit or Reward ether No worth in our workes we meane of the worth or of the sequele If you meane worth there is no merit no reward Hemingius in Enchir. Classe 1. p. 122. If we must iudge of Vnworthie of the sight of God workes according to their worth they are vnworthie to come in the sight of God Caluin in Rom. 9. v. 11. The worth of workes is not regarded which is none at all 3. Institut c. 17. § 8. If we must set a price of workes according to their worth we say they are vnworthie to come in the sight of God Et in Antidoto Concil Sess 6. c. vlt. They giue a false worthinesse to workes as if they please without forgiuenesse Bezal Quaest vol. 1. p. 674. I say that these workes of the regenerate do please not for anie worth of theirs but for the mere grace of the Father The like hath Bucanus in Institut Ioco 32. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that we may conuerse worthily to the Ghospell of God walke worthily of God bring on others worthily of God that some are made worthie
3. A Bishop is minister of the word but he must be husband of a wife in that he is a Bishop and must commend holie marriage to others and terrifie them from fornication Caluin in 1. Cor. 7. v. 25. Seing the Scripture saieth Genes 2. that male and femall were created together it seemeth equally Single life not commended to anie and without exceptioÌ„ it calleth all to marriage at least single life is not commanded or commended to anie In 4. Instit c. 12 § 24. Paul reckoneth marriage amongst the vertues of a Bishop Et c. 13. § 3. This is indeed to tempte God to striue against nature which To striue against his flesh is to tempt God Desire of virginitie accursed of God he hath giuen and to despise his present guifts as if they belonged not to vs. Sadeel ad Artic. 53. abiurat This so great affectation of virginitie and single life which God at last did accurse was so â—suall with the Fathers as c. Zanchius in Thesibus to 8. It is against Gods commandment that a yong man who hath need of marriage should remaine vnmarried and simply that a woman should be wnmarried Whitaker Controuers 2. quaest 5. cap. 7. When Bellarmin had saied Vigilantius taught that Church men ought to be married answereth If vigilantius ment the lawfull marriage of Pastours he was in the right Tindal in Fox his Actes p. 1139. A preist must haue a wife for twoe causes The one c. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that God by the mouth of the Apostle would haue all men to be a he was that is vnmarried that such as were vnmarried he exhorted to remaine so that Christ exhorted all to single life who could take it that in heauen there is a speciall reward for virgins The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that Paul would haue all men to be married would haue a Preist or Bishop to be married that Christ terrifieth men from virginitie that God will haue no man vnmarried that he as much commandeth to marrie as to eate or drinke that to increase and multiplie is more then a precept that God hath accursed the affectation of virginitie that single life is commended to none And thus much of virginitie ART V. WHETHER FASTING BE A vertue or worshippe or seruice of God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 2. v. 37. Who departed not from the temple by fastings Fasting is seruice of God and praiers seruing night and daye Math. 6. ver 17. When thou dost fast anointe thy head and wash thy face that thou appeare not to men to fast but to thy Father who is in secret and thy Father who seeth in secret will Rewarded of God repay the. Math. 4. ver 15. But the dayes will come when the kingdome shal be taken away from them and then they shall fast CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 2. vers 37. This place teacheth that fasting belongeth to the seruice of God as praiers doe PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Cathol reform Contr. 6. pag. 132. Fasting is a Fasting of th same nature that eating is Helpeth nothing to heauen Profiteth nothing Mens fasting no better then beasts thing indifferent of the same nature with eating and drinking and of it selfe conferreth nothing to the obtayning of the kingdome of heauen no more then eating and drinking doth Humphrey ad Ration 3. Campiani p. 263. We graunt that it is true which Sanders saieth of the Iouinianists and our men That fasting or abstinence from certaine meats profit nothing Luther in Ionae 3. to 3 fol. 422. God esteemeth as much the fastings and haireclothes of beasts as of men and contrariwise What cares God for sackcloth fasting and hairecloth Caluin in Math. 16. v. 18. Fasting of it selfe is an indifferent A thing indifferent not required of God No seruice of God thing not of those kinde of things which God requireth and approueth In c. 4. ver 1. In that they perswade themselues that fasting is a meritorious worke and a parte of pietie or of Gods seruice it is a noughtie superstition In Act. 14. v. 23. Let vs not putt anie seruice of God in fasting seing that of it selfe it is nothing nor is of account with God but as it is referred to an other end In Of no moment Instit l 4. c. 12. § 16. Nether doth Luke putt anie seruice of God in fâ—sting Of it selfe it is of no moment c. 19. We must take great heed that fasting be not accounted a kinde of Gods seruice Beza in Confess c. 5. sect 40. We commend not true fasts as a kinde of Gods seruice Peter Martyr in locis loco 10 § 23. There is an other abuse No seruice of God that there be some who attribute holines to fasting as if there were anie seruice of God in it Whereas indeed fasting is onely an exercise which of it selfe hath no sanctitie Pareus in Collegio Theol. 1. disput 18. Fasting of it nature No vertue is no morall vertue For temperance is a morall vertue not because it abstaineth from meat or drinke but because it moderatly vseth meat and drinke THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that S. Anne did serue God by fasting and praier that God rewardeth those that fast that Christ will haue his to fast The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that fasting is no part or kinde of Gods seruice that it is an indifferent thing of the same nature that eating that it conferreth nothing to get heauen that it is nothing is onely an exercise that God maketh no more account of mens fastings then of beasts that God requireth it not nor approueth it ART VI. WHETHER FASTING BE A preseruatiue against the Diuel SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 17. v. 21. But this kind of Diuels is not cast out but Some diuels cast out by fasting by praier and fasting CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Stapleton in Mathew 17. ver 28. Praier and fasting must be added as a most soueraigne antidote to driue away these kinde of Diuels PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Math. 17. ver 21. cit The ridiculous Papists make No Diuels cast out by fasting fasting an antidote to driue away diuels Illyricus in Claue part 2. tractat 6. col 535 thus expoundeth the foresaied words of Scripture This kinde c. that is they cannot be cast out but by earnest praier proceding of earnest repentant and penitent hart and so he giueth no vertue to fasting THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that certaine Diuels are not cast out but by fasting and praier The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that it is ridiculous to make fasting an antidote against Diuels ART VII WHETHER CHOICE OF meates be lawfull or vertuous SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Daniel 10. v. 3. In those dayes I Daniel mourned the dayes of Daniel vsed choice of meats three weeks desiderable bread I did not eate and flesh and wine entred not into my
As for infused Not anie iustice grace that is inherent iustice we say and teach that no gotten habit no ingrafted vertue no infused qualitie not any iustice by which we may be iustified before God is inherent in vs but that there is ingrafted and inherent all wickednesse all rebellion and stubburnesse of the flesh Pareus lib. 2. de Iustificat cap. 7. We are void of inherent We are void of inherent iustice iustice therefore we need imputed iustice lib. 3. cap. We haue already shewed that there is no inherent iustice in the iudgment of God THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that there was iustice in Daniel before God that our B. Ladie and Saint Steuen were full of grace that grace was in Timothe that we must putte on the new man who is created according to God in iustice of trueth that is true iustice The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that there is no iustice in vs before God there can be no iustice not a crumme of iustice no vertue no good nothing but cause of damnatiō and which deserueth to be damned ART IX WHETHER IVSTICE INHErent in vs can be imputed to vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Psal 105. v. 30. Phinees stood and pacified and the slaughter Zeale imputed to iustice ceased and it was reputed to him vnto iustice Rom. 4. v. 3. Abraham beleiued God and it was reputed him Also faith to iustice v. 5. To him that worketh not yet beleiueth in him that iustifieth the impious his faith is reputed to iustice v. 9. We say that to Abraham faith was reputed to iustice And in like sorte v. 4. it is saied that reward is imputed to the worker and v. 8. that sinne is imputed to the sinner CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 4. ver 2. Dauid the Prophet most expressely saieth that the zeale of the honor of God and of his law in Phinees was reputed him to iustice PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Pareus l. 2. de Iustif c. 3. What inhereth is not imputed For No inherent thing imputed that is properly imputed which is not had That is not imputed which is had according to Pauls discourse l. 3. c. 1. What inhereth is not imputed Piscator in Thesibus l. 2. pag. 68. If any say Reward is imputed according to debt abuseth the word Imputed And pag. 72. It implieth contradiction that inherent iustice should be imputed Moulins in his Buckler art 19. sect 31. It is certaine that faith as it is a vertue inherent in vs cannot be imputed to vs Our actions are not imputed for they are not our actions or vertues but of others which are imputed to vs. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that the zeale of Phinees was imputed to him for iustice that Abrahams beleife was reputed to him that the faith of the beleiuer is reputed to him The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that what inhereth is not imputed that inherent vertue cannot be imputed that it implieth contradiction that inherent iustice should be imputed ART X. WHETHER THE IVSTIFIED be infallibly certaine and by diuine faith that they are iustified SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Eccles 9. ver 1. Man knoweth not whether he be worthie of None knoweth that he is worthie of loue Or whether he be simple loue or hatred but all things are reserued vncertaine for the time to come Eccles 5. v. 5. Of sinne forgiuen be not without feare Iob 9. v. 21. All though I shall be simple the selfe same shall my soule be ignorant of Hier. 17. v. 9. The hart of man is peruerse and vnsearchable None knoweth his owne hart who shall know it CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Councel of Trent Sess 6. cap. 9. None can know with certaintie of faith which cannot be deceaued that he hath obtained grace PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Commonly they teach that euerie faithfull man is iustified by a speciall or peculiar faith wherewith he beleiueth that his sinnes are forgiuen For thus they professe in Confess Augustana apud Melancthonem to 3. art 4. They We are iustified by beleiuing our selues to be such are iustified when they beleiue that they are receaued into grace and that their sinnes are remitted for Christ This faith God imputeth for iustice Et art 5. God iustifieth those who beleiue that they are receaued into grace for Christ And Apologia Confess Augustanae c. de Iustificat This Speciall faith of our owne iustification iustifieth vs. speciall faith wherewith euerie one beleiueth that his sinnes are remitted for Christ and that God is appeased and pacified for Christ obtaineth remission of sinnes and iustifieth vs. And c. de Paenitentia Remission of sinnes cometh by that speciall faith wherewith euerie one beleiueth that his sinnes are forgiuen him for Christ Whitakerus ad Ration 8. Campiani p. 41. Whosoeuer beleiueth that his sinnes are remitted this verie faith absolueth him The same teach commonly all Protestants and manie of them are named in my Latin booke And because it is well enough knowne I will alledge no more of their sayings to prooue that they thinke themselues to be iustified by a speciall faith wherewith they beleiue that they are iustified Whitaker Concione vlt. This one thing I say Whosoeuer We haue certaine faith of our iustification denie vs to be certaine of our saluation with certaintie of faith leaue vs no faith l. 8. cont Dur. sect 47. None are iustified but who know that they are iustified Iuel Defense of the Apologie pag. 149. Our people be As certaine as if Christ saied so to vs. so certaine of the remission of their sinnes in the blood of Christ as if Christ himselfe were present and spoake it to them Perkins de Baptismo tom 1. col 820. He beleiueth not the Ghospell vnlesse he likewise be perswaded that he is the sonne of God And same ibid. col 206. The true faithfull are certaine by faith that their sinnes are forgiuen them Rainolds thesi 2. p. 71. That they are elect faith perswadeth euerie pious man touching himselfe and charitie touching others Luther in 1. Petri 1. to 5. Thou must beleiue that thou art a We must beleiue that we are Saints Saint and that with so great certaintie and constance that thou fearest not to leese thy life for it In Psal 14. to 3. f. 245. It can be no waies faith vnlesse it be an vndoubted opinion wherewith a man is certaine aboue all certaintie that he pleaseth God and hath him propitious in good and indulgent in euill Caluin in Math. 21. v. 21. Christ doth not acknowledge that No beleiuer without speciall faith anie beleiue but such as without doubt do thinke that God is propitious to them The same he hath in Rom. 1. v. 6. 3. Instit c. 2. § 16. In Antidoto Concilij Sess c. 10. What lewdnesse I pray is it that none can know by certaintie of faith that he hath obtained grace And in Catechismo cap.
tom 4. Armat cap. 15. saieth Faith is called a worke not absolutely as it is considered in it selfe but relatiuely as it apprehendeth Christ Hunnius de Iustificat pagin 157. Faith worketh by charitie towards our neighbour not toward God Finally Perkins in Casibus c. 7. That which euerie one is bound to beleiue is indeed true according to the intention of God who bindeth him but it is not true alwaies according to the euent Of good works in generall they coyne these distinctions Of good works in generall The good workes of the iust are good in parte not wholy They are all equall before God but not in themselues They are acceptable to God in his throne of mercie but not of iustice They are necessarie to iustification by necessitie of presence but not of cause They are necessarie to saluation not to iustificatioÌ„ See l. 1. c. 14. art 15. To which we adde that Pareus lib. 4. de Iustificat capite 17. saieth That good works are worthie of reward in the courte of mercie but worthie of punishment in the courte of iustice of God Et l. 1. c. 16. 23. 24. Works are required to regeneration not to iustification or as Reineccius speaketh 10. 1. Arm. c. 20. They are necessarie to sanctification not to iustification Who also to 4 c. 22. distinguisheth a worke in Giuing and Receauing and saieth that faith is a giuing worke not a receauing Schlusselb to 7. Catal. p. 446. writeth that obedience is necessarie to saluation but an others obedience not ours And addeth The dutie of obedience is indeed necessarie to saluation forsooth if it be not freely remitted Scarpius de Iustif Contr. 15. Iust men are worthie of the kingdome of God by the worth of aptnesse not of perfection or merit Riuet tract 3 sect 36. There may be a relation of Merit and Reward betwene men but not betwene God and men Perkins in Cathol Ref. Cont. 4. cap. 6. Good workes are necessarie to saluation not as cause but onely as a thing necessarie following faith Touching good works in particular they thus distinguish of good works in particular That to liue single is a good profitable but not honest or vertuous That virginitie is better then mariage in something but not simply That fasting is a parte of Gods worshippe in the law but not in the Ghospel That almes deliuereth from sinne and death not by it selfe but by the cause thereof That it is lawfull to pray for the elect not for others for the liuing not for the dead for things promised in the Scripture not for other things as appeareth by what hath beene rehearsed c. 15. To which we adde that Perkins in Cathol reform Cont. 3. c. 3. writeth that we pray not so much for the forgiuenesse of sinnes past as present Confessio Wittember saieth We may wish to the dead all rest and happines in Christ but we may not pray for them Luther in Postil Dom. 2. post Trin. graunteth that we may once or twise pray for the dead but not often And at home and in our chamber but not in the Church And the like hath Vrbanus Regius in formulis caute loquendi to 1. Who also in locis fol. 322. saieth that we may pray coÌ„ditionally for the soule of our brother but not absolutely Feild l. 3. de Eccles c. 17. teacheth that we may pray for one that is dead streigth after his death but not afterward Zuingle in art 60. saieth I condemne not if one being carefull for the dead doe implore or pray Gods mercie for them but to define any time for this is diabolicall Spalata l. 5. Repub. c. 8. n. 132. writeth that God at the intercession of the Church forgiueth litle sinnes soone after death but not long after Thus they distinguish about praier fore the dead Perkins in Apoc. 2. tom 2. The precept of repentance is directly giueÌ„ to the elect indirectly to the reprobate Et Tilenus in Syntagm c. 47. There is no counsaile inferred out of 1. Corint 7. but onely a desire and wish of one desiring the guift of continencie Touching sinne these new distinctions they make Of sinne That it is imputed to reprobates and infidels not to the faithfull and elect That it is veniall to the elect not to others that it may stand with iustice with some wrastling no otherwise that byting vsurie is condemned not other as we haue related l. 1. c. 16. Besides Perkins in Cathol ref Cont. 2. cap. 1. saieth that in iustification sinne is taken away not in it selfe but as it is in the person or as Riuet speaketh CoÌ„t tract 3. sect 26. Sinne remaineth in parte not wholy Caluin in IoaÌ„ 1. v. 29. Sinne is in vs but not in the iudgement of God Beza in 2. part resp ad Coll. Montisb p. 73. Dauid sinned but not whole but as he was not regenerate p. 79. He did not retaine the holie Ghost but some thing of the holie Ghost pag. 71. Sinne casteth not of the holie Ghost but hindreth his efficacie Et p. 87. It maketh the holie Ghost a sleepe for a time but doth not cast him of Pareus l. 1. de Amiss Grat. c. 7. Adam fell not as he was predestinate but as he was to be predestinated He lost the grace of creation but not the grace of iustification And Piscator in Thes loc 20. The elect do slide but are not cast downe Touching iustification these new distinctions they Of iustification frame It is declared by workes but not caused It forgiueth sinnes but taketh them not away It maketh that sinne is not imputed but not that it is no more It maketh a man iust not in himselfe but in Christ And others such like as may be seene lib. 1. c. 17. Moreouer Luther in Zanchius de Perseuer to 7. col 128. saieth When Peter sinned his loue towards God and Christ was not drowned but onelie floated Reineccius to 4. Arm. c. 15. Sanctification increaseth and decreaseth but not iustification Kemnice in locis part 2. tit de Argum. writeth that when in Scripture God is required to iudge vs or reward vs according to our iustice that speach is not of the iustice of person but of our cause or controuersie with other men And agayne That same yee are cleane Ioan. 13. And yee are washed and sanctified 1. Cor. 7. is to be vnderstood imputatiuely Whitaker ad Rat. 8. Camp Faith hope and charitie doe make vs iust inchoately not absolutely Perkins de Praedest to 1. distinguiâ—heth grace into that which represseth which he saieth is coÌ„mon to reprobates into that which reneweth which he maketh proper to the elect Et in Cath ref Cont 4. c. 4. saieth Adam had imputed iustice according to the substance thereof but not according to imputation Illyricusin Claue part 2. tract 6. Sinne is abolished by right promise for the time to come but not in act and deed Gesner in CoÌ„p loco 22. In Scripture those are called iâ—st