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A14227 An ansvver to a challenge made by a Iesuite in Ireland Wherein the iudgement of antiquity in the points questioned is truely delivered, and the noveltie of the now romish doctrine plainly discovered. By Iames Vssher Bishop of Meath. Ussher, James, 1581-1656.; Malone, William, 1586-1656. 1624 (1624) STC 24542; ESTC S118933 526,688 560

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lactantius_n 303._o concilium_fw-la sinuessanum_fw-la supposititium_fw-la 310._o concilium_fw-la eliberinum_n seu_fw-la illiberitanum_n 325._o concilium_fw-la romanum_fw-la sub_fw-la silvestro_n supposititium_fw-la 325._o concilium_fw-la nicaenum_n uniu●rsale_a i._n 325._o macarius_n hierosolymitanus_n 330._o eusebius_n caesareensis_fw-la 330._o juvencus_n 340._o eusebius_n emesenus_n 340._o athanasius_n alexandrinus_n 350._o eustathius_n antiochenus_fw-la 350._o julius_n firmicus_n maternus_n 350._o acacius_n caesareensis_fw-la 359._o conciliabula_fw-la arrianorum_n nicaen_fw-la constantinop_n sirmiens_n &_o ariminens_n 360._o didymus_n 360._o hilarius_n pictaviensis_n 360._o titus_n bostrensis_n 364._o concilium_fw-la laodicenum_n 370._o macarius_n aegyptius_n 370._o cyrillus_n hierosolymitanus_n 370._o asterius_n amaseae_fw-la episc_fw-la 370._o optatus_n 370._o ambrose_n mediolanensis_fw-la episc_fw-la 370._o basilius_n caesareensis_fw-la 370._o gregorius_n nazianzenus_n 370._o aerius_n haereticus_fw-la 380._o caesarius_n 380._o gregorius_n nyssenus_n 380._o nectarius_n 380._o pacianus_n 380._o prudentius_n 380._o philastrius_n 380._o euagrius_n ponticus_n 380._o amphilochius_n 381._o concilium_fw-la constantinopolitanum_n universale_fw-la ii_o 390._o hieronymus_n 390._o paula_n &_o eustochium_fw-la apud_fw-la eund_n 390._o epiphanius_n 390._o ruffinus_n 390._o coelius_n sedulius_n 390._o paulinus_n mediolanensis_fw-la 400._o io._n chrysostomus_n cujus_fw-la epistolam_fw-la ad_fw-la caesarium_fw-la monachus_fw-la quam_fw-la in_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la vocant_fw-la pontificij_fw-la citatam_fw-la invenio_fw-la in_o collectaneis_fw-la contra_fw-la severianos_fw-la quae_fw-la ex_fw-la fr._n turriani_n version_n habentur_fw-la in_o 4._o tomo_fw-la antiquae_fw-la lectionis_fw-la henr._n canisij_n pag._n 238._o &_o in_o fine_a libri_fw-la io._n damasceni_n contra_fw-la acephalos_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 211._o ubi_fw-la postrema_fw-la verba_fw-la testimonij_fw-la á_o nobis_fw-la citati_fw-la pag._n 64.65_o turrianus_n ita_fw-la transtulit_fw-la sic_fw-la etiam_fw-la híc_fw-la divinâ_fw-la naturâ_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la insidente_fw-la unum_fw-la filium_fw-la unam_fw-la personam_fw-la utrumque_fw-la constituit_fw-la 400._o marcus_n eremita_fw-la 400._o polychronius_n 400._o hesychius_n presbyter_n 410._o palladius_n lausiacae_fw-la histostoriae_fw-la author_n 410._o pelagius_n haereticus_fw-la 410._o augustinus_n 410._o philo_z carpathius_n 410._o synesius_n 414._o theodorus_n daphnopatus_n by_o henr._n oraeus_n refer_v to_o this_o year_n i_o know_v not_o by_o what_o warrant_n 418._o concilium_fw-la africanum_n universale_fw-la carthagine_v habitum_fw-la contra_fw-la pelagium_fw-la 420._o maximus_fw-la taurinensis_n 424._o hilarius_n arelatensis_fw-la 430._o io._n cassianus_n 430._o vincentius_n lirinensis_n 430._o author_n operis_fw-la imperfecti_fw-la in_o matthaeum_n 430._o cyrillus_n alexandrinus_n 430._o synodus_fw-la alexandrina_n contra_fw-la 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