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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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in_o scripture_n xii_o ib._n according_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o use_v the_o word_n altar_n for_o table_n or_o the_o word_n sacrifice_n for_o worship_n as_o thanksgiving_n etc._n etc._n though_o with_o all_o the_o foresay_a caution_n and_o though_o god_n so_o use_v they_o in_o the_o scripture_n 1_o pet._n 2.5_o heb._n 13.15_o 16._o phil._n 4.18_o eph._n 5.2_o rom._n 12.1_o heb._n 13.10_o rev._n 6.9_o and_o 8.3_o 5._o and_o 16.7_o and_o that_o all_o the_o ancient_a writer_n and_o church_n sin_v that_o so_o speak_v xiii_o that_o no_o sober_a christian_n shall_v allow_v each_o other_o the_o liberty_n of_o such_o phrase_n without_o censoriousness_n or_o breach_n of_o charity_n and_o peace_n ibid._n pref_o fourteen_o ibid._n
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