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A96326 The right method for the proving of infant-baptism. With some reflections on some late tracts against infant-baptism. / By Joseph Whiston, Minister of the Gospel. Whiston, Joseph, d. 1690. 1690 (1690) Wing W1695; ESTC R201364 36,822 72

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reveal_v our_o duty_n what_o necessity_n be_v there_o that_o he_o shall_v leave_v upon_o record_n a_o commendation_n of_o any_o for_o the_o practice_n of_o it_o or_o a_o discommendation_n for_o the_o neglect_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o for_o our_o author_n to_o say_v as_o he_o do_v pag._n 69._o be_v exceed_v weak_a he_o shall_v have_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v universal_o true_a with_o respect_n to_o all_o gospel-duty_n at_o least_o ordinance_n and_o that_o it_o must_v necessary_o be_v so_o let_v he_o produce_v a_o commendation_n give_v to_o any_o woman_n for_o participate_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o discommendation_n for_o the_o neglect_v of_o it_o but_o not_o to_o stay_v upon_o such_o trifle_n 7._o our_o author_n argue_v from_o a_o suppose_a reflection_n that_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptism_n make_v upon_o the_o honour_n care_n and_o faithfulness_n of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o bless_a mediator_n and_o glorious_a lawgiver_n he_o suppose_v they_o render_v 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