Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	tradition_n	word_n	write_a	3,323	5	10.7817	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17976	Iurisdiction regall, episcopall, papall Wherein is declared how the Pope hath intruded vpon the iurisdiction of temporall princes, and of the Church. The intrusion is discouered, and the peculiar and distinct iurisdiction to each properly belonging, recouered. Written by George Carleton.	Carleton, George, 1559-1628.	1610 (1610)	STC 4637; ESTC S107555	241,651	329

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government_n i_o mean_v ecclesiastical_a and_o temporal_a be_v direct_v by_o coactive_a power_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n in_o the_o point_n of_o jurisdiction_n between_o temporal_a and_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n for_o the_o king_n and_o only_o the_o king_n be_v to_o appoint_v judge_n in_o matter_n temporal_a and_o ecclesiastical_a the_o king_n have_v no_o more_o authority_n in_o reverse_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o one_o then_o of_o the_o other_o be_v true_a just_a and_o lawful_a so_o that_o the_o king_n jurisdiction_n stand_v not_o in_o a_o power_n to_o dissanull_v true_a and_o righteous_a iudgeman_n but_o in_o a_o power_n supereminent_a by_o which_o he_o be_v charge_v first_o to_o confirm_v law_n ecclesiastical_a and_o temporal_a second_o to_o place_v judge_n for_o both_o cause_n three_o to_o see_v that_o those_o judge_n of_o both_o sort_n judge_v just_o according_a to_o right_n and_o equity_n four_o to_o punish_v they_o if_o they_o shall_v be_v find_v to_o give_v 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shall_v tell_v thou_o thou_o shall_v do_v where_o we_o find_v two_o rule_n for_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o judge_n the_o priest_n and_o the_o judge_n the_o sentence_n of_o the_o priest_n must_v be_v according_a to_o the_o write_a law_n the_o sentence_n of_o the_o other_o according_a to_o the_o truth_n of_o justice_n and_o judgement_n if_o a_o man_n be_v able_a to_o show_v that_o he_o be_v wrong_v he_o may_v undoubted_o appeal_v to_o a_o superior_a now_o a_o man_n may_v be_v able_a to_o show_v that_o he_o be_v wrong_v if_o he_o can_v show_v that_o the_o priest_n decline_v from_o the_o law_n of_o god_n which_o be_v appoint_v his_o rule_n or_o the_o temporal_a judge_n from_o justice_n and_o therefore_o if_o there_o be_v a_o superior_a in_o the_o land_n he_o may_v appeal_v but_o if_o there_o be_v no_o superior_a he_o be_v without_o remedy_n as_o when_o hely_n be_v both_o priest_n and_o judge_n from_o he_o at_o that_o time_n there_o can_v be_v no_o appellation_n but_o where_o the_o form_n 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therefore_o it_o be_v lawful_a in_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a to_o appeal_v from_o judge_n ecclesiastical_a to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n the_o consequence_n rest_v upon_o this_o that_o saint_n paul_n herein_o do_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o he_o may_v do_v just_o and_o lawful_o which_o thing_n i_o suppose_v the_o great_a enemy_n of_o saint_n paul_n doctrine_n will_v not_o deny_v for_o he_o come_v up_o to_o jerusalem_n with_o this_o profession_n and_o purpose_n i_o be_o ready_a not_o to_o be_v bind_v only_o 13._o but_o even_o to_o die_v for_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n neither_o dare_v he_o for_o save_v of_o his_o life_n give_v a_o scandal_n to_o the_o gospel_n the_o antecedent_n consist_v of_o these_o two_o part_n first_o that_o the_o matter_n for_o which_o saint_n paul_n be_v accuse_v be_v matter_n ecclesiastical_a second_o that_o therein_o he_o appeal_v from_o the_o high_a priest_n both_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o scripture_n for_o 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