your authority were infallible as that of the Apostles was the answer would have some colour though the Apostles used not that authority to crush liberty of prophesying but they commend the trying of the Spirits and since our judgement is not infallible reason requires that we should not desire other spirits pious and good to be oppressed and suffocated Answ We reject no Spirit because it agrees not with ours for our Spirit is not the rule as Libertines contend but because it swerves from the oracles of God if any man speake let him speake as the oracles of God let us prophesie according to the proportion of faith 2. This answer saith that no man now in the Christian Church can try all things doctrines and spirits and refuse the evil and deluding spirits hold fast that which is good and beleeve the spirits speaking from God because it is to extinguish the Spirit say our Libertines since we are not infallible Apostles to judge these Spirits for mad phansies that agree not with our Spirit we say its impossible to try all things and hold that which is good but we must judge false spirits to bee false spirits not because they agree not with ours that is the calumny of Libertines but because they swerve from the word of truth though we be not infallible as the Apostles were but this reason supposeth that because of want of Apostolick infallibility we should try all spirits and all doctrines but condemn reject and refuse none as spirits of the devill for that is to extinguish the spirit and pitch and settle our faith upon no doctrine but like Scepticks sail about the coasts of truth all our life and dye in no beliefe at all 3 It is false that the Apostles did not crush your liberty of prophesying for Paul 2 Thess 2. 2. extinguisheth those spirits who would shake the faith of the Thessalonians to make them beleeve that the day of Christ was at hand for he forbids to beleeve them and John extinguisheth the Familistical and Antichristian spirits who denied Câ—rist to be come in the flesh O but say Libertines these false spirits knew what they preached to be lyes and yet preached them as from God and wee stand for no such liberty of prophesying nor such spirits as these Answ This is a conjecture that they beleeved the day of Christ was not near hand and yet preached it was near there is not one shaddow in the text or colour hinteth that way for Familists and Seducers now have not so much to say for their dreams as they had yea they had much to say that made them beleeve that day was near hand since Christ had said these were the last days and the Apostles do writ it that new were the last times and that the end of the world was fallen on them and they preached al they wrote and so it is rather like they beleeved the day of Christ was near and the Antichrist in Jobus time had as much as seducers now have to make them beleeve that Christ was not come in the flesh since the blinded Jewes alleadged all the prophesies of the old Testament as not fulfilled in the son of Mary and sure they had more to make them beleeve it then Gortin Saltmarsh and other Familists whom Libertines I beleeve call a part of the godly party if they speake according to their conscience can alleadge for their new false and fleshly visions they preach and print 4 Though we be not infallible as the Apostles were yet reason will not say we should not desire that pious and good spirits that is those that call themselves so but are lyers to bee extinguished For wee are to pray that God would cause the unclean spirit and the false Prophet Libertines and others to cease out of the land and so faith requires wee should try them by the word and pray and desire they were crushed and extinguished I mean not in their person but as touching their false doctrine But present your selfe say Arminians before the tribunal of Papists and they will condemne you of Heresie and if you alledge the spirit teacheth you they will answer is that the spirit which corrupt and madde reason teacheth you the spirit of the Devill said the spirit of Christ was the spirit of Beelzebub Answ What inferre Libertines hence against us this is to place no more power in Synods but directive Sir if it please you this is Gods will But wee hold lawfull Synods which is not in the Synagogue of Rome or Papist may as wel rebuke exhort and instruct with all Authority as Timothy or any one particular pastor and this is more than the directive and sceptick teaching of one private Libertine teaching with a reserve convincing and condemning another in a Scepticall way But all tends to this Protestant Synods convened in Christs name can say no more but wee teach what our judgement is it may be true it may be false yeeld a Sceptik consent with a reserve to it that is all and why because Protestant Synods convened in the name of Antichrist can peremptorily and tirannically condemn the truth as heresie and say they are infallible and their Synodicall decrees are the very word of God Ergo Protestant Synods may not authoritatively command you in the name of Christ to beleeve and receive their lawfull decrees conditionally after yee finde them agreeable to the word of God there is no consequence here Prelates condemned the truth as heresie and schisme Pharisees condemned Christ as a Samaritan ergo Protestants sound in the faith cannot condemne Popery Familisme and ergo Paul cannot condemne 〈◊〉 as a perverter of the waies of righteousnesse this is as if you would say a robber cannot by law jure condemne a traveller to render his purse ergo a Judge cannot compell this traveller to pay just debt 2 We do not instance from the teaching of the spirit but from the cleare word of God CHAP. X. Of indulgence in fundamentall or non-fundamentall errors BUt say the Arminians the question is of Hereticks not of those who dare deny the things openly decided in the Scripture but of those who call in question those things that are or may be contraverted There was never an Heretick who called in question whether theeves drunkards robbers railers Idolaters shall enter into the Kingdome of heaven or whether God be to beloved above all things he is not a Christian he is not an hereticke but worse than a hereticke who denyes those things that are plain and obvious in scripture But he that layeth a law upon others which he must follow under pain of death imprisonment or banishment in things belonging to liberty of prophecying which are conjoyned with the reverence of God and the scripture trampleth all prophesies under foot Answ 1 This definition of an Hereticke is in quesion there be in England who deny all scriptures as no word of God yet are judged by Libertines
hairy mantle to deceive as the 4. v. holds forth and so he pretends a calling from God when he hath none 2. He prophesies not errors only but lies that hee knowes or may know except he were wilfully ignorant to be lyes 3. He speaks them in the name of the Lord and sayes he hath seene the visions of God and the word of the Lord came to me when no such thing was but he utters his owne phancies and hee that does these three deserves bodily punishment and if they bee lyes striking at the root of the Christian faith hee deserves to dye the death 2 The text will not bear that his father and his mother with their owne hands shall thrust him through without addressing themselves to the Judge But it is an allusion to the Law Deut. 13. His father and mother shall not pity him but cause him to be thrust through So Elias said to Achab Hast thou killed and also gotten possession When Achab with his owne hands had not killed Naboth but by his command and letter had procured that others should doe it so 2 Sam. 12. 9. Thou hast killed Vriah but it is exponed David procured that the Ammonites should kill Vriah David with his owne hand did not thrust him through The Answer is because the objector is like to be cumbred with this text he saith for I repeate not what I answered before the best exposition and fullest is His father shall pierce him through that is shall indeavour to take him off and deterre him from such a practice by laying before him the sentence of the death out of the Law Exod. 20. 5. 7. threatning if thou goe on thou shalt not live with God but shall be condemned he shall pierce him through with sharp and piercing words the word of God is compared to a two edged sword Psal 149. â—7 c. and ver 12. There is that speaketh like the piercing of a sword so Turnovins And the predictions in Scripture are spoken as performances Jer. 1. I have set thee over the Nations to root out c. That is to foreshew or threaten rooting out so Chytraeus They shall confute their wicked opinions c. Answ Though Turnovius expound piercing through by preaching death from the Law and terrifying yet since the Objector weakly and groundlesly as we saw will râ—strict this Prophesie to the Church of the Jewes and a poore short time when this zeale endured It must with his leave be meant in that day that is in the time of the Gospel as in other places it must be taken as Ier. 50. 4. v. 20. Ier. 31. 29. Ier. 33. 15. 16. Ioel 2. 29. Zach. 8. 23. for so prophesies of Christs Kingdome are expounded to have their accomplishment in Christs Gospel-Kingdome and then the Law piercing through and terrifying must be in use under the Gospel which is all we crave therefore the Objector adds to the words of the threatning thou shalt not live to wit before God and so leaps from the threatning of the sword of the Magistrate Deut. 13. which hee saith is the sense of the place to the second death and a dying before God 2. But let us have an instance where piercing through dying and wounding is put for Metaphoricall wounding with words to gratifie the Objectors erroneous sense wee cannot quit this place so for all the Text cryes for a reall piercing and killing 1. It is I grant an easie way to answer places of Scripture that can but bear a literall sense to change them into Metaphors so you may give to the Magistrate with some Anabaptists Rom. 13. a Metaphoricall sword and pay him metaphoricall tribute and give him metaphoricall obedience what more reason to make this a morall slaying and piercing with words then a morall or metaphoricall Idol or a metaphoricall false Prophet a metaphoricall uncleane spirit and passing out of the land These words thou shalt not live are words of the Law and the piercing through metaphoricall but those words againe Thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord are not metaphoricall but containe a proper truth such a complication is not in all the Scripture 2. The words in their literall sense are faire and easie and not to bee wrested to a spirituall or borrowed sense without ground it much lesseneth the zeale foretold to be under the Gospel and turnes a reall zeale over into words of threatning the Text saith the contrary his father shall thrust him through and this works so upon him that others shall really leave their false prophecying and shall say I am no Prophet but a Herdman now if the words be a Prophecie to be fulfilled only in the Jewes excluding the Gentiles as the Objector saith then is it no zeale at all but a most sinfull and unjust dispencing with the Law and a zeale far below the Law for the Law saith Deut. 13. If the seducing Prophet which were as neer to thee as a Brother Son Daughter or Wife in thy bosome thou must not smooth him and oyle him with sharpe words and meer threatnings yea but thou must act against him v. 8. Thine eye shall not pitie him thou shall not spare him neither shalt thou conceale him 9. Thou shalt surely kill him thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death Now this cannot be a metaphoricall putting to death but the Objectors metaphoricall and minatory piercing of him through with sharpe and piercing words imply necessarily that yee must conceale him and pitie him and not kill him nor stretch out any hand against him first or last to hurt him but only stretch your tongue against him and barely threaten him and terrifie him but let him live If the Prophecie be extended to Iew and Gentile under the Gospel which against the Text the Objector denies then it argues 1. That there is such a Law under the Gospel else if it be an unjust Law and out of date now under the Gospel the threatning and piercing through must bewith lying words and father must utter to the lying Prophet lies to terrifie him and say son if thou desist not from prophesying lies thou shalt be thrust through with the Magistrates sword and die according to the Law that is I foreshew and threaten according to the Law but it is an unjust and an out-dated Law to Libertines that obliegeth not under the New Testament that thou shalt be thrust through and die that is I fore-shew and prophesie a lie that thou ought to be put to death and persecuted for thy conscience whereas no such thing ought to be now when the Law Deut. 13. is worne out of vigor 2. It must follow that lying and false words uttered in a threatning manner must be the way to cause the false Prophet to bee ashamed of his vision and prophesying falsely no more but say I am no Prophet but an herdman Whereas the Holy Ghost sayth feare of thrusting through is the cause 3 If it
not bottomed or resolved upon these fallible meanes But what Arguments have Bellarmine Stapleton Grâ—â—serus Becamâ—s 〈◊〉 Valentia the Councel of Trâ—nt and other Papists to make good that the Church of sound Catholikes who if they could fill their chaire are of more authoritie then Printers or particular men translators of the Scripture for they lead us from the written word as Mr. Goodwin doth and say the Church giveth authoritie to the word of God and resolve our faith upon the Testimonie of the Church saith Tannâ—rus as the infallible rule of faith on the authority of the Church saith Bellarmine quoad explicationem quoad nos in regard of our beleeving on God not simply revealing but so and so revealing saith Stapleton by his Church c. so as we know not that God hath revealed his truth but by and for the infallible proposal of the Church saith Gregorius de Valentia on the authoritie of the first veritie God revealing himselfe as the principle and first cause of faith saith Ioan. de Lugo and Malderus and on the authoritie of the Church as they are men eminent for Miracles as in that which is first beleeved ut in primo creditum and the only infallible rule of faith say Suarez Aegid Connick Lod. Maeratius And. Duvallius Fr. Silvius Lod. Caspensis All which speak fairer for the credit of faith in words then Mr. Iohn Goodwin who raiseth our faith no higher then the English grammer the Printer the learning and authoritie of men 2. We beleive that Christ is God man not for the authoritie of men and so of the rest of the Articles of our faith because Christ saith Iohn 5. 34. Ye sent unto Iohn and he bare witness to the truth v. 34. But I receive not testimony from men on which word Chrysostome saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I need not saith our Saviour the testimonie of men 〈◊〉 I am God but because ye give more heed unto Iohn and beleeve him to be most worthy of all of credit and ye come to him as a Prophet I speak this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 who will then receive Mr Goodwins Testimonie who gives us nothing for faith but fluctuation of opinion and some Topick grounds from mens credit learning and authoritie that the Scripture is the Word of God and turnes all our faith into fancie 3. The Scripture resolves our faith on Thus saith the Lord the only authoritie that all the Prophets alledge and Paul 1 Thes 2. 13. For this cause also thanke we God without ceasing because when yea received the word of God which ye heard of us ye received it not as the word of man made of mens credit and learning as Mr. Goodwin saith but as it is in truth the word of God 4. Weak dry and saplesse should be our faith all our patience and consolations of the Scriptures Rom. 15. 4. all our hope on the word of God Ps 119 49 50 52 54 55. all our certainty of faith if it were so as Mr. Goodwin averreth But we have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a more sure word of Prophesie surer then that which was heard on the Mount for our direction and the establishing of our faith 2 Pet. 1. 19. Joh. 5. 39. Search the Scriptures for they bear witnesse of me let them be judge between the Jews and me whether I be the Son of God or no for they beare witnesse of me now if we have no better warrant that the books of the Old and New Testament that we now have to wit the originall of Hebrew and Greek and translations are the word of God then that which is made of the credit of the authority and learning of men then must all our comfort of beleeving be grounded upon this mans and this mans Grammar and skill in Hebrew Greek Latine English aâ—d he is not infallible in any of these And must our lively hope be bottomed on mens credit and learning then for any thing we know on the contrary we have but dreams opinions and at best mans word for the word of God and how is the word of Prophesie a more sure word for these were written and translated prophesies of which Peter speaketh Mr. Goodwin and Libertines who put heaven and Christ and the lively hope of our inheritance to the conjectures of doubting Scepticks could well reply to Peter the word of prophesie cannot be sure for we have no certainty that the Scriptures of the Prophets of the Old and New Testament which we have either Hebrew or Greek copies of are the word of God but undoubtedly Christ appealeth to the Scriptures as to the onely Judge of that controversie between him and the Jewes whether the Son of Mary was the eternall Son of God and the Saviour of the world he supposed the written Scriptures which came through the hands of fallible Printers and Translatours and were copies at the second if not at the twentieth hand from the first copy of Moses and the Prophets and so were written by sinfull men who might have miswritten and corrupted the Scripture yet to be a judge and a rule of faith and fit to determine that controversie and all others and a Judge de facto and actually preserved by a divine hand from errours mistakes and corruptions else Christ might in that appealed to a lying Judge and a corrupt and uncertaine witnesse and though there be errours of number genealogies c. of writing in the Scripture as written or printed yet we hold providence watcheth so over it that in the body of articles of faith and necessary truths we are certaine with the certainty of faith it is that same very word of God having the same speciall operations of enlightning the eyes converting the soule making wise the simple as being lively sharper then a two-edged sword full of divinity life Majesty power simplicity wisdome certainty c. which the Prophets of old and the writings of the Evangelists and Apostles had M. Goodwins argument makes as much against Christ and the Apostles as against us for they could never in all their Sermons and writings so frequently bottome and found the faith on 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as it is written in the Prophets as David saith as Isaiah saith and Hosea as Daniel saith as Moses and Samuel and all the Prophets beare witnesse if they had had no other certainty that the writings of the Prophets that came to their hands was the very word of God but the credit learning and authority of men as Mr. Goodwin saith for sure Christ and the Apostles and Evangelâ—sts had not the authentick and first copies of Moses and the Prophets but only copies written by men who might mistake Printers and Translators not being then more then now immediately inspired Prophets but fallibly men and obnoxious to failings mistakes and ignorance of ancient Hebraismes and force of words and if ye remove an unâ—rring providence who doubts but men might
adde a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or substract and so vitiate the fountaine sense and omit points change consonants which in the Hebrew and Greek both might quite alter the sense nor can any say Christ and the Apostles being infallible could well cite the Prophets without a mistake though the copies might have been vitiate and corrupt 2. Because the very citing of these Testimonies by Christ and his Apostles made them Scripture and so of infallible authority but our citing of them since both Printers and Translatours are not immediately inspired and we also might erre cannot adopt them into Canonicall and authentick Scripture such as was first written by the immediately inspired Prophets I shall answer that first this objection presumeth that Christ and the Apostles might and did finde errours and mis-printings even in written Scripture which might reduce the Church in after ages to an invincible ignorance in matters of faith and yet they gave no notice to the Church thereof or if there was no errour de facto then for so many hundred yeares yet there are now substantiall errours and so soule that it may be we have no word of God at all amongst us and God hath no Church no beleever on earth but we must all take the word of Printers and Translatours which is meerly the word of man and what is become of all the Martyrs that suffered by the bloudy woman Babel they dyed for meer conjectures and opinions for they had not the first originall copies of Moses and the Prophets yea Stephen the first Martyr who according to all our copies Act. 7. addeth five to Moses his 70 soules that went downe to Egypt in that glorious Sermon that he hath before his death when he sealed the truth with his bloud and dyed gloriously and said Lord Jesus receive my spirit dyed but upon the faith of mens fallible skill in Grammer Printing and writing for he citeth the writings of Moses to his enemies that stoned him according to the copies that they then had who would quickly have controlled him if he had cited false copies and Stephens owne Testimony was contraverted and therefore except we say that Stephen and Christ and the Apostles cited the testimonies of the Prophets as they were then obvious to the eyes and reading of both the people of God and the enemies and that not simply as their owne words which they spake as immediately inspired but as the testimony of the Prophets according to the then written copies we must say they spake not Ingeniously the truth of God for it was against truth candour ingenuity to Christ and the Apostles to say as it is written in your Law Jo. 8. 17. and so often it is written if they would not have the hearers to receive with certainty of faith and full assurance free from all doubting and feare of humaue fallibility that what they cited as written was undoubtedly the same very truth of God and no other which Moses and the Prophets spoke and wrote and if they would not have them to read search and beleeve these same Scriptures and to conceive that they drew arguments in the New Testament to prove and confirme their doctrine from that which was written by Moses and the Prophets in the Old Testament and would not have them to beleeve them onely because New Testament writers immediately inspired had so said 6. If God will have us to try and examine all Spirits all Doctrines by the Scriptures written then are we certainly assured that the books we now have of the Old and New Testament are the very word of God though we cannot by any possibility have the first and originall authentick copies of Moses and the Prophets and Apostles Because 1. God would not bid us try and then leave us no rule to try withall but our owne naturall light which must lead us into darknesse 2. The visible Church should not be guilty of unbeleefe if the written word were not among us or then Christ and his Apostles speaking to us as is cleare Joh. 15. 22. Rom. 10. 14 15. Matth. 11. 21 22. The assumption is cleare by the commended practise of the Bereans who tryed Pauls doctrine by the Scriptures Act. 17. See Rivetus Whitaker Calvin 3. By the command of God 1 Thess 5. 2. 1 Joh. 4. 1. Try all things try the Spirits 7. John would not call those blessed who read and hear Rev. 1. 5. nor would Paul recommend reading to Timothy and continuance in the doctrine of the Scriptures and so extoll the necessity and utility of the Scripture and the indwelling of the word of God in us as he doth 1 Tim. 4. 16. 2 Tim. 14 15 16. Col. 3. 16. nor could the things written by John c. 21. 31. by Moses and the Prophets Luke 16. 29 30 31. be holden forth as sufficient to bring soules to heaven and to cause them eschew hell if it were true that we have no certainty that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are the very word of God but such as is made of mens credit and learning 8. Yea and so what God spake immediately to Abraham Moses and the Prophets could not be infallibly and by certainty of faith to them the word of God for if God spake to them in a language intelligible they had no certainty of faith that the words that came from God did signifie thus and thus for sure God by immediate inspiration taught them not Grammar and significations of words and those that read the Law written by Gods finger on two Tables of stone those who heard Moses and the Prophets preach in their Mother-tongue even the Jewes who read the originall first Hebrew copy of Moses and the Prophets must have had no warrant that that was the word of God but the authority of Father Mother and Nurses who first taught them their Mother-tongue for sure the Prophets were not School-masters to teach them Hebrew so by this learning there was never since the world was any certainty of faith but such conjecturall humane and fallible opinions in all the matters of God as is resolved ultimately saith Mr. Goodwin into mens fallible and topicke authority and skill of Grammar and all divine faith is perished out of the earth nay there never could be any divine faith on earth except God by a supernaturall power taught men first Grammar and then to beleeve for which we have no warrant so all our faith must bee dreams And since Mr. Goodwin acknowledgeth a supernaturall power of the Spirit of Grace to beleeve what else doth this Spirit cause us beleeve but lyes or at best phancies resolved into humane credit which may be false for any certainty of knowledge that Libertines allow us Yea confident I am saith Mr. Goodwin that the wisest and most
and eate first and that before any of the words of Institution bee mentioned or any blessing of the Elements must be a manifest breach of the Directory of Jesus Christ which sure holdeth forth to us a twofold ordering of acts of worship one divine which we must pâ—remptorily follow another prudential and humane in circumstances which concern both the worship of God and civill Assemblies as time place persons c. and in the latter we are no further to be commanded in point of uniformitie then the generall rules of the word lead us and compulsion where God hath no compelling commandment going before in an exact uniformitie we utterly disclaim nor can men or Church or all the Assemblies on earth make laws in matters of Gods worship where the Supream Lawgiver hath made none and the Preface of the Directorie is so clear in this that we trust we shall quickly agree with the godly and sound in judgement in this Obj. 18. But whether were it not better that a Patent were granted to Monopolize all the corn and cloath and to have it measured out to us at mens price and pleasure which yet were intollerable as some men and Synods doe appoint and measure out to us what and how much we shall beleeve and practice in matters of religion and whether there be not the same reason that Presbyterians and the Assembly of Divines at Westminster should bee appointed by us Sectaries what they shall beleeve and practise in Religion as for them to do so to us seeing we can give as good grounds for what we beleeve and practice as they can doe for what they would have if not better Answ It were indeed better that all the corn and cloath were monopolized to be measured out at the pleasure of men then that truth should be monopolized and measured out at the pleasure of men speaking what pleases them without all warrant of the word of God and alledge only mens meer authoritie or rather lust and commanding men without trying the Spirits and doctrines by the Scriptures as the Bereans tryed Pauls doctrine Acts 17. Peremptorily to beleeve and practise what they appoint under pain of the Sword this sort of monopolizing either corn or truth our witnesse is in heaven we detest and refuse But of monopolizing and appointing what truth men should beleeve by an authoritative ministeriall and officiall holding out of truth in the name of Christ and from the word of truth in a way of leading the consciences by perswading from strength of light by the Law and the Testimonie and exhorting all men in the Lord to try the Spirits examine by the word not what men but the Embassadors of Christ say and teach not from themselves but from the will and commandment of him that sent them then must they give an account to God who call this monopolizing of the truth and measuring it out at the pleasure of men when as the preaching of the word being instant in season out of season reproving rebuking exhorting with all long-suffering and doctrine 2 Tim. 4. 2. should so be a monopolizing of the truth and a measuring of it out at the pleasure of men in regard that Christ saith Matth. 10. 40. He that receiveth you receiveth me Joh. 13. 20. and Luke 10. 16. He that heareth you heareth me and he that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me And Matth. 10. 14. Whosoever shall not receive you nor hear your words when ye depart out of the house or Citie shake off the dust off your feet Verily I say unto you it shall be easier for the land of Sodom and Gemorrah in the day of judgement then for that Citie Which words are spoken of all the faithfull Ministers of Christ to the end of the world Matth. 28. 19 20. so they speak according to the commission given them by the Lord speaking in his word whether they declare the mind of Christ in a pulpit or Synod This way Ministers who hear the Word at Gods mouth Ezek 3. 10. and deliver the whole councell of God Acts 20. 27. and keep nothing back as faithful Ambassadors and Stewards ought ministerially to declare and appoint what and how much we shall beleeve and practise in matters of religion but not as Monopolizers 3. Suppose Sectaries could teach the Ministers of the Assemblie as well as the Ministers can teach them yet is there more reason that Ministers should Synodically teach then they for a teaching Ministery is an ordinance of Christ in the New Testament as is clear by these places which hold forth that Christ is present with his faithfull Ministers to the end of the world Joh. 20. 21 22. Matth. 28. 19. Eph. 4. 11 12 13. and 2 Tim. 4. 1. 2. compared with Matth. 28. 19. 20. Eph. 4. 11 12 13 Matth. 10. 14. v. 40. Luke 10. 14. Joh. 15. 20. 1 Tim. 3. 1 2 3 4 5. Rom. 10. 14 15 16. Hebr. 5. 4. and 13. 17. Tit. 1. 7 8 9. 1 Thes 4. 12 13. Rev. 2. 1 2. c. and 3. 1 2 c. and howbeit the word of God as the word doth equally tye the conscience in regard of that objective obligation that it hath from God not from men who ever spake it whether Ministers or private Christians yet it layeth two bands on the conscience when Ministers declare the will of God to people the one is officiall for by the fift commandement the messengers of the Lord of Hosts are to be heard reverenced and received in their calling otherwise we despise Christ The other is an objective obligation and a band which it layeth on the conscience by the second Commandment in regard it is the Word of God not of men 1 Thes 2. 13. But when private Christians speak the word of the Lord in their station the word from them layeth on only the latter obligation not the former and it is false That private men have as good grounds to appoint what Ministers should beleeve and practise as ministers have to appoint what they should beleeve and practice for private Christians want the Ministeriall grounds which Ministers called of God have to teach and exhort in the Name of the Lord. 4 It may be private men may see more truth then Ministers when night and darknesse in stead of vision covereth the Prophets but hence it followeth not that seeing and called watchmen should not ministerially appoint and hold forth by their office what private christians should beleeve and prâ—ctice in matters of Religion 5. Libertines aim at this The truth is monopolized to no one man nor certain kind of men ministers or others What then Ergo It is truth what every man in his conscience beleeveth to be truth and he that beleeveth practiseth what in conscience he beleeveth to be truth he beleeveth and practiseth according to the word of God and is not to be controlled nor contradicted nor compelled by
the house of God Psal 69. of the betraying of him by Judas and 〈◊〉 historicall things that are not fundamentals yet all thâ—â— were a part of the Apostles and the Holy Ghosts testimony Act. 5. 32. And to be beleeved with divine certiâ—ude of 〈◊〉 faith no lesse then the Articles of fundamentalls that Christ was the sonne of man and died for our sinnes and rose for our righteousnes except we say that the Apostles are false witnesses and make God a lyar in saying that Judas betrayed him not and that Barrabas a Murtherer was not preferred to him 1 Cor 15. 1â— Job 3. 33. 1 Job 5. 10. For if we give God the lye in non-fundamentals and turne non-fundamentals into controversies and conjectures and thinke we must beleeve fundamentals one or two fixedly and peremptorily and lead a good life and so we are saved but not otherwise but as touching non-fundamentalls we may beleeve these with a reserve and a demurre and may beleeve them for a day or an houre and deny them to morrow and again bee carried about with a new wind of doctrine and beleeve the third day and deny them the fourth day beleeve them the fift day and deny them the sixt day and so make a whirly-gigge of our faith and a new faith for a new-moone or for a halfe and a quarter moone as the Independents in their Apology makes this a principle of their faith to beleeve these things so as wee leave roome for a new light to cast a board again at the blowing of the wind of a new phancy of which we have seene more in the Assembly of Divines these four years past then we desire to see in any that professe godlinesse and as the Holland-Arminians say from whom new lights or old darknesses have their rise a faith of a thousand yeares may be the worst of all which say we is most false a false opinion of God and a thousand yeare old lye a gray-haird untruth is the worst of conjectures but faith it neither is nor can be called But the late Independents and the new Libertines of England do only say such a monthly faith is to be tollerated because of the darkenes of our mind in the matters of God which yet is faith not but a conjectural opinion But they say by a command of God we must have no other faith except in some few fundamentals and no man since Adam died except the man Christ ever knew or could determine how few or how many so our faith in fundamentals in that totters for they say these precepts and commands of the Holy Ghost Try the spirits whither they be of God or no. Try al things hold that which is good the example of the noble Bereans who examined Pauls doctrine by the Scriptures doth lay a divine command in them to beleeve non-fundamentals with a reserve Yea they say with the Arminians c. that it is against liberty of prophesying whereas liberty of lying in the name of the Lord is of the devil who hath taken liberty or rather helish licence to lye from the beginning they say it is against our growing in knowlâ—dge and the prayers of the Saints that God would open their eyes to see the wonders of his Law and lead them into all truth and against the prophesies that in the last days the earth shal be filled with the knowledg of the Lord the light of the moon shal be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun as the light of seven days and the day star shal arise in the hearts of many and the spirit shall be powred on all flesh young and old maids and children To all which I say either the Spirit of God moves men to the faith of this there is no Church visible on earth but such as is constituted of beleevers such as those of Corinth and Rome and others were after they were planted and watered by the Apostles or no. If no they have not faith of it and so it is 1. No truth of God to Independents c. for which they can suffer but a meer opinion then they cannot suffer for it in faith and to beleive any truth of God because the Lord so saith is wrought only by the Holy Ghost if it be wrought by the Holy Ghost then it is a truth of God and a divine truth for the Holy Ghost moves no man to beleeve a lye for a truth of God if it be a divine truth then doth not the Holy Ghost will you so to beleeve it for a truth as you must upon a new light beleeve the contrary to morrow For I renew the argument in its full strength touching the faith of the contradicent which you beleeved the last day either the Holy Ghost must move you to beleeve that contradicent as a truth of God or no Iâ— no It is not divine faith you have of it if yea then the faith of the former was the beleeving of a lye so that you must make the Holy Ghost the father of beleeving a lye 2. The object of divine faith a lye 2 This is to teach us to be carried about with every wind of doctrine whereas faith of fundamentals or non-fundamentals is to beleeve a truth because so saith the Lord that cannot lye nor speake untruth but you will men to beleeve those non-fundamental truths so as they may bee as well lyes as divine truths 3. These Precepts Try the Spirits Try all things enjoyne an examination of fundamentalls as well as non-fundamentalls and what reason have Independents to say these Precepts hold in non-fundamentalls onely Mr. John Goodwin with better ground saith they hold in all for must we hold that which is good onely in non-fundamentalls And did not the Bereans try Pauls doctrine by the Scripture in the most and onely necessary fundamentall which Paul preached that Jesus Christ was the Messiah that dyed rose againe Act. 17. 3. and are therefore commended by the Holy Ghost v. 10. 11 above those of Thessalonica and must wee beleeve every Spirit who preach fundamentall truths or fundamentall errours who say Christ is not yet come in the flesh upon trust the contrary of which John expresly enjoyneth 1 Joh. 4. 1 2 3 yea we are rather to try fundamentalls and to walke upon sure and unmoveable principles since an errour here hazardeth our eternall salvation and is of as great concernment as our souls are but errours or mistakes in non-fundamentalls though they bee sinnes yet are consistent with saving faith and the state of salvation 4. Try all things try the spirits must have this sense beleeve what ever God saith be it fundamentall or non-fundamentall not onely after you have searched the Scriptures and sound it agreeable thereunto as the Bereans did but though you finde it consonant to the writings of the Prophets and Apostles yet because you are not infallible nor the Spirit that leads you therein
to be drawne against them but that of iron 3 How will Libertines prove that the second sort of seducers that were to dye for seducing Deut. 13. 6 7 8. the brother son daughter or wife that lyes in the bosome denyed God the Creator there is no warrant from the text to say they dreamed dreames and wrought wonders to seduce or that they professed the inspiration of a new Deity yet they were to dye and why not the Hereticks now by the same reason If they thrust people away from the Lord that hath ransomed them from Hell Yea 4 These acknowledge the Lord and the law and the Lords Priests and Prophets as some Hereticks doe now yet not standing to the sentence of the law that the Priest shall â—each but presumptuously rejecting it were surely to be put to death Deut. 17. 10 11 12 13. So he that speaks a word in the name of the Lord so confesseth and professeth both the Lord and his word as hereticks now do which the Lord commanded him not to speak or shal speak in the name of other Gods even that Prophet shall dye And did not Jeremiah and Vriah the son of Shemaiah and the Prophets that were killed and sâ—oned by the Jewes professed God and that the word of God came to them and that they had seen the visions of God yet they were condemned as false Prophets but for prophesying destruction on Israel Judah and Jerusalem and if the Lord had not sent them but they speake the visions of their owne head they had been false prophets as is cleare Jer. 14. 13 14. Jer. 23. 15 16. and so justly condemned 5 Are there not now under the New Testament who deny the word of God as many Antiscripturists in England and doth not Saltmarsh Del Beacon Randal and many Familists and Antinomians father their new lies upon the spirit and the pretious anoynting that teacheth all things aâ—â— not they like to those Prophets Deut. 13 have not some in France in Holland in England made defection to Judaisme and Turâ—isme and turned Apostates from Christ And yet they deny not God the Creator nor the Scriptures of the old Testament and by this answer they are free of all bodily punishment And does not Peter contradict this answer of Libertines that say our Hereticks are not as these Deut. 13. 2 Pet. 2. 1. But there were false Prophets also among the people as there shall be false teachers among you and our Saviour Mat. 24. 24. For there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets and shall shew great signes and wonders insomuch that if it were possible they should deceive the very elect A vive representation of the state of England this day 6 The formall and what is essentiall to a false prophet is now in our seducers they thrust men away from God and the way of Gospell that the Lord hath commanded us to walke in â—nd that is enough 7. From the practice of the Iewes when Heretickes and Seducers and blinde guides were in the chair and they tollerated themselves we draw rather the contrary argument ergo we are not to follow nor to suffer blinde guides now who deny the resurrection as Familists and other to lead souls into the ditch no more then we are to follow them in corrupting the Law and extolling the traditions of men CHAP. XV. Christs not rebuking tolleration and the â—aw Deut. 13. vindicated CHrists no when reproving Church and State for not punishing Sadduces and Hereticks denying the resurrection is 1. A poore argument to prove the lawfulnesse of tolerating them 1. The Sadduces were cheife Rulers themselves Act. 23. 6. And he that reproves a Judge for murther must in that same reprove him for tolerating murthers He that said the guide leading the blind led should fal in the ditch he reproved the mis-government and wicked toleration of the Rulers Nor read we that Elias reproved Achab for not killing Baals priests ergo Achab transgressed not the Law Deut. 13. 1 2 3. Deut. 17. 1 2 3. in tolerating false teachers Nor doth God Deut. 32. 6 7 8. reprove the Rulers for not punishing the worshiping of the golden calf or the making of it for worship because Aaron and the Rulers under Moses were guilty of it will it follow that the Rulers and the sonnes of Levi should tolerate it since the Lord commanded the contrary Nor does the man of God reprove Jeroboam for tollerating the people to worship the golden calves or because he suffered the lowest of the people to intrude themselves in the priests office against the word and law of the Lord because the lesse sin was swallowed up in the greater but it followes not that Jeroboam did the duty of a Magistrate in suffering the people to go to Dan and Bethel to such abominable Idolatry or in suffering the basest of the people to take onâ—them the Priests Office but the Prophets reproving Jeroboam's commanding of that Idolatrous worship and Priests which is a greater sinne must by consequence condemne his not punishing of it which is a lesse sin so David sinned as a Magistrate in suffering Bathsheâ—a to commit adultery and to wrong her husband and to violate Gods Law and should not onely as a Magistate have hindered her but should have put her to death for adultery he being the supreme Magistrate and there being an expresse Law of God that the adulterer man or woman should dye the death Levit. 20. 10. which David knew well yet the Prophet Nathan does not in expresse tearms condemne David for not putting Bathsheba to death though he faithfully reproved David because Nathan reproving David for the adultery it selfe committed in his owne person as the greater sinne must by consequence condemne Davids tollerating of Bathsheba an adulteresse to live which was a lesser sinne and it will not follow that David a King should tollerate knowne adultery in Bathsheba a subject because Nathan does no where in direct tearms nor any Scripture elsewhere that we read condemne David for not punishing with the sword the adultery of Bathsheba so Nathan Gâ—d and other Prophets no where reprove David sparing the life of Joab a murtherer When Christ reproved the Sadduces for denying the resurrection he reproves by consequence both Church and State for tollerating the denying of the Resurrection and supposeth the tolleration of it to be against the law of God 2. It is no argument at all from 1. A negative fact 2. In such a particular Scripture to prove the lawfulnesse of tolleration Let then answer this Christ that was a faithfull Preacher to State and Church no where reproveth in the Gospell the tolleration of the extortion of Publicans Sodomie murther the absolving of a murtherer at the feast a bloody tolleration denying of God blasphemy ergo it was lawfull for the Church and State to suffer all these 3. This answer inferreth that the Church should tollerate all false doctrines and the denying of the resurrection
and conjectures for it may be say Libertines that all those whom wee refute as hereticks be sound in the faith and we not they the hereticks and those whom we refute are as much oblieged in faith to refute us as we to refute them So I see not how Libertines can use so much as morall compelling of Hereticks For 1. They cannot compell them with the sword to forsake their heresies because the sword bearer being fallible knoweth them not to be heresies they may be necessary truths for him Ergo because the Pastor is no more infallible then the Magistrate the Pastor with certainty of faith cannot say thus saith the Lord. Jezabel is a false Prophetesse Hymaeneus and Phyletus depart from the faith for Jezabel Hemaeneus and Philetus may be sound in the faith and this Pastor who refuteth them the false heretick for there is no peremptory and imposing decision of any of these till the last judgement since now the infallible Prophets and Apostles are dead 2. Upon this ground yee cannot eschew any as a heretick after twise admonishing him of his hereâ—ie for ye have no faith nor divine certainty it is an heresie that he holdeth it mâ—y be you who admonish him are the heretick only upon opinion you admonish him 3 You cannot rebuke any Heretick sharpely that hee may be sound in the faith for you are not infallible in the bestowing of the lashings of your tongue on a heretick more then the Magistrate in beating him with the sword and your rebuking of him may be heretical and unjust and he the man sound in the saith 4. Upon the same ground you cannot admonish and instruct him in faith Nor 5. Call the opinion of the Magistrates coercing of men with the sword for their conscience a bloody tenet and persecution of the Saints Nor 6. Can you in faith refuse him lodging in your house and all your 7. Saying in the pulpit such a way of Familisme is a way of heresie is not resolved in thus saith the Lord by such a preacher but such a preacher so thinketh possibly phancies that the Lord sayth such a way is heresie And by the same reason what ever pastors preach especially except it be two or three fundamentalls which all Christians Papists Socinians Lutherans Protestants Familists Arminians Seekers c. Is but the dictates of their own conscience and so they preach so they beleeve and so they professe not because God so saith but because their conscience so dictates to them And here is the Libertines Creed Me thinks Christ died for sinners the dead shall be raised c. And so Libertines are very Papists in this and resolve our faith into the testimony of men the conjectures of the conscience So he goes on Hee expounds uniformity and nearest conjunction to be absolute conjunction and identitie If we be agreed of the same Church Officers with the reformed Churches and have cast out the old Vsurpers cashiered the Common-prayer booke Ceremonies Alters Crucifixes all which we have don by the Covenant do we not save our Covenant though we cast not our Churches into such Classicall provinciall or nationall formes Answ Nor do we plead for absolute identitie in doctrine and worship but indeavour it we ought But how I pray you doth the Magistrate for that I had almost forgot send Ministers to rebuke exhort and reclaime men from their errors but not compel gainesayers The Magistrate I am sure sent not Paul and Barnabas it was not so from the begining in the Apostilick Church there were no Parliament-Ministers But it may be the Authour meanes a politicall civill sending of Ministers to extirpate heresies But be it so all Magistraticall sending of Magistrates is a commanding of them by the sword in a compulsive way that they goe preach against Familisme Socinianisme Arrianisme But if so good Sir remember your selfe the Magistrate as the Magistrate doth not request and morally by the power of the word for he hath not any such spirituall armour I conceive for his warfare intreat and say good Pastors I beseech you go preach against Del Randal Saltmarsh and other Familists and extirpate their heresies private men so send Pastors but as a Magistrate he must say I command you goe preach against these heresies under the paine of bearing the vengeance of my sword now if the Pastors reply Good Master Judge we cannot doe that for we think Familisme a new glorious discovery of spirit and Mr. Saltmarsh hath beaten out of the Scriptures new sparkles of glory and flowings of free grace Familisme is no heresie If the Magistrate notwithstanding by his place and calling send these and command them to goe and extirpate Familisme doth he not compell the consciences of these pastors he sends what doe ye then talke of no compelling for what ever the Magistrate by his place doth command which is lawfull if Ministers or any other refuse to obey he may use the sword against them Ye cannot say if it be a matter of conscience he cannot compell them to doe it by his place then say I by his place hee cannot command them neither Beside that this answer is directly against the words of the Covenant if every man in like manner Art 2. Be to endeavour the extirpation of Popery Prelacy Heresie and Schisme in his severall places and calings as the Author saith this referres to the whole obligation of each person respectively Then is the Magistrate according to his place and calling which is to beare the sword to compell with the sword the extirpation of Popery Prelacy Heresie and Schisme and what hath the Author gained by this glosse which I conceive is the true glosse except he mean the Magistrate as the Magistrate should lay aside his sword and fall to prayers requests obtestations that hereticks would lay aside their errours and preach sound doctrine but now he doth so pray and request not according to his place as a Magistrate but according to his vocation as a Saint and a Christian which yet crosses the Covenant and makes the Parliament not as the supream Court of Judges to take the Covenant but as so many private Christians 2 If so the Judges are not in their respective places to take the Covenant nor endeavour the extirpation of heresie because that is against the word of God but then by what authority or calling did the Parliament cast out old Vsurpers the Prelates casheire the Service booke Ceremonies Alters and Crucifixes Either as a Parliament and so by the sword is not here yet the Prelates conscience squeezed to the blood is not here highest violence done to the consciences of high alter men and adorers of crucifixes Why to them more then to Familiâ—s But if this was done by requeâ—â— and wordâ— of butter and oyl from the Parliament and Committee-men then are Ordinances of Parliament but meer requests to the Subjects But it is protestatio conâ—raria facto He addeth if these words we shall
our Saviour and his Saints have drunke the same cup. Hence he citeth to no purpose Scriptures but two and fourtie in number of the persecutions to follow the Lords Disciples for the Gospel and that it is proper to the world to persecute and to the Saints to be persecuted and hated for righteousnesse and that such as are persecuted and 〈◊〉 â—â—sallow all persecuting for matters of Religion as the greatest stumbling block to the propagation of the Gospel must necessarily be the true Church and 〈◊〉 of Christ none else having a capacitie without Gods infinite mercie and dispensation of being ever hewed out and squared as members sutable to such a head contrâ—riorum eadem est ratio since the true Church must needs be persecuted that must needs be a false Church which persecutes the true one for though this false Church be persecuted likewise yet in regard it cannot be both true and false that persecuted Church must needs be the only true one which doth not persecute others but that the argument may be compleat and full it had much need for it is weak and unstable as water as in the mouth of two witnesses unto this evidence of reason Let me adde a Scripture proofe Viz. we brethren true Christians as Isaac was are the children of promise but as he that was born after the flâ—sh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit 〈◊〉 so it is now Gal. 4. 28 29. yet since it is better if the will of God be so that we suffer for wâ—ldoing then for evill doing 1 Pet. 3 17 howevâ—r these Ishmalites are powerful prosperous prevaile against us and have the world at will for the present yet let us comfort our-selves that God hath chosen the dispised and poore rich in faith c. We close this Chapter with their doom and ours neverthelâ—sse what saith the Scripture Câ—st out the bondwoman for the son of the bonâ—woman shall not be heire with the son of the free-woman so then we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free Gal. 4. 30 31. So of that sort is the heedlesse Quaerist to the Assembly of Divines If the Magistrate as a Magistrate have a power from Christ to punish such as he is perswaded in his conscience are erroneous and hereticall or because he differs in Religion from the Magistrate then Queen Mary and her Parliament did well in burning the Martyrs for differing from her established Religion Answ 1. The man as an Anabaptist citeth Matth. 5. 39. 40. Whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheâ—k turn to him the other Volkelius an arrand Socinian cryes down Lawes and Judges and all warres under the New Testament and maketh this a new Commandement not warranted in the Old Testament as if the hating of our enemie and revenge were commanded in the old and forbidden in the new Nay sâ—ith he what heavenly ravished and blessed Spirit will tell me what these Scriptures mean Mat. 39. 40. 41 42. as if none were heavenly and blessed Spirits that knew the meaning of the Scriptures but Volkelius Chellius Socinus and other Socinians and Anabaptisâ—s I answer Socinus and Volkelius are these blessed Spirits that can shew the meaning of these words and tender Lettice for your lips But see your Socinian dream and theirs refuted by Poliander and Joan. Peltius for Christ in the New Testament does no where contradict Moses Law nor refute Moses but he refuteth the false glosses which Scribes and Pharisees put on Moses Law For 1. Christ never saith It was said by Moses but I say the contrary But it was said of old by the unlucky Elders and Fathers of Scribes and Pharisees which these wretched Doctors and their sons said Eye for eye and thou shall not kill and thou shall not commit adultery As is cleare 1. Because loving of our Enemy was forbidden by Moses and in the Old Testament as in the New as I proved before revenge is forbidden Prov. 20. 22. Deut. 32. 35. Shedding of bloud is forbidden Gen. 9. 6. as well as by our Saviour Matth. 26. 52. 2. Because Christ saith Matth. 5. 20. I say unto you except your righteousnesse exceed the righteousnesse of the Scribes and Pharisees he saith not except it exceed the righteousnesse of the Law of God commanded by Moses in the Old Testament Yee shall not enter into the Kingdome of Heaven And as Christ condemneth unjust anger so is it condemned aâ— murther and accursed in the Old Testament Gen. 49 7. 2 Chro. 28. 9. Daniel 3. 13. Prov. 14. 16. Gen. 27. 45. Est 1. 12. Prov. 15. 1. Prov. 19. 11. c. 27. 4. Eccles 7. 4. Esa 7. 4. Amos 1. 11. 1 Sam. 17. 28. 1 Sam. 20. 30. Prov. 14. 17. c. 29. 22. c. 21. 19. c. 22. 24. and forbidden in the sixt Commandement before Christ had that Sermon Matth. 5. And the forbidding of rash and sinfull anger is no new Commandement but more frequently condemned in the Old Testament then in the New And the like may be proved of heartlusting Prov. 6. 25. Lust not after her beauty in thine heart Gen. 6. 1. Job 31. 1. Jer. 5. 8. 2 Sam. 11. 2. Job 24. 15 16. Job 31. 9. All which places and many others in the Old Testament condemne lusting after a woman in the heart no lesse then Christ condemns it 3. Christ refuteth Socinians and Anabaptists Matth. 5. 17. Think not I am come to destroy the Law c. 18. For verily I say unto you till heaven and earth passe one jot or one title shall in no wise passe from the Law till all he fulfilled But if Christ oppose his new Precepts to the Law of Moses as Velkelius saith he must utterly destroy the Law of Moses and substitute a more perfect Law in the place thereof But Libertines as Joh. Baptist here would have heresie forbidden in the Old Testament and punishing of false prophesying commanded there But heresie must be Innocency and Righteousnesse in the New Testament and to be punished for false teaching in the old was to suffer for ill-doing but now in the New saith Baptist to be punished for false prophesying is to suffer for well-doing and he citeth 1 Pet. 3. 17. as if it were the will of God that Sectaries suffer for well-doing that is for Familisme Socinianisme Antmomianisme Popery Idolatry butchering of children to God as some Anabaptist Parents have done and for preaching Doctrine that eateth as a Gangrene 2 Tim. 2 for blaspheming and denying the Resurrection of the dead as Hymeneus did for he that suffereth for all these out of meer conscience suffereth for well-doing as Peter saith if we beleeve Joh. Baptist 2. But how shall Mr. Baptist prove Christ foretelling the Apostles should be persecuted for the preaching of the truth of God and the Gospel that these Apostles and the Anabaptists that now are must looke in like manner to be persecuted for the Gospel that is for Familisme Socinianisme all the
new Blasphemies now on foot in England are all these blasphemies the Gospel and whosoever suffer for monstrous heresies must they suffer as the Apostles did and must they lay claim to all the comforts that our Saviour hath bequeathed in his Testament to his Disciples who were to suffer for Christs sake and for righteousnesse then surely an erronious and a blaspheming conscience must be righteousnesse and to suffer for blasphemy and Satan must be to suffer for righteousnesse and for Christs sake for these Libertines say the Assembly of Divines teach Blasphemies Popery murthering of Saints for conscience So Baptist so Necessity of Toleration so Ancient Bounds 3. If such as are persecuted and disclaime totally persecution for conscience be the onely true Church and none but they then these Papists in England in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth who were onely persecuted in your sense of the word Persecution and wrote and petitioned against Persecution and totally disclaimed it are the onely true Church The like I may say of the Arrians in the Emperours times against whom most severe Laws and Edicts were made which to M. Baptist was direfull persecution and yet they totally disclaimed persecution for conscience and pleaded for Toleration So say I of the Arminians in Holland who alwayes plead for liberty of Prophesying and of Anabaptists and all the Sectaries in Germany when they first arose of the Familists and most rigid Anabaptists in New England and of all the vilest Sects Anabaptists Antiscripturists Socinians Familists c. in Old England Yea we may suppose all Papists Iewes and the most abominable Sects living where there are strict Lawes for the onely one true Religion to hold the opinion of totall disclaiming persecution for conscience for sure they are most capable of this opinion hence it shall follow that all these wretched Hereticks shall be the only true Church and body of Christ 4. This monopolizeth the nature and name of the true Church to onely Sectaries that professe they are ready to suffer for their conscience and doe totally disclaime persecution that is for liberty of conscience so this opinion shall be the only essential not and constituent form of the true Church and shall exclude the sound faith of all fundamentalls and the doctrine of the Law and Gospell The vilest Hereticks living holding this one Article of Baptists faith shall be the onely true Church and this opinion shall unite men and societies formally to Christ their head and yet it is no matter of faith except Libertines say none are capable of faith and salvation but such as hold this opinion Hence it must follow all these named Calvinists all the Reformed Churches all the Churches and Saints in New England all the ancient Brownists the old Non-conformists who all disclaimed toleration and licence of conscience must not onely not be the true Church but the malignant Church of such as professe that which they cal Persecution yea and since they detest and abhor liberty of conscience as Atheisticall All these Saints must be uncapable of saving faith and necessarily damned because being professed persecutors and totâ—â—ly disclaiming toleration they are in the judgement of this Baptist such as have no capacity without Gods infinitâ— mercy and dispensation converting them to such Libertinisme to be hewne out and squared to such a head as Christ for contrariorum eudem est ratio 5. Forme an Argument Mr. Baptist from your two Scriptures If to persecute for conscience be essentiall to such as are borne of the flesh and to be persecuted for conscience be essentiall to such as are born after the Spirit then to be thus persecuted and to disclaim totally persecution for conscience is an essentiall note of the true Church This Proposition can never be proved in your sense for to be persecuted for conscience that is for a well informed conscience which is sound in the faith of Articles of saving knowledge is indeed such an essentiall note and so we yeeld all but it is nothing for toleration but much against it but to be persecuted for conscience though erroneous and holding Judaisme Turcisme Arrianisme Papisme Familisme c. to be the true and saving way which is the sense of Baptist is no wise a note of such aâ— are born after the Spirit not doth any place of Scripture by the thirteenth consequence prove the same for Isaac was not persecuted by Ishmael for his erroneous conscience The Text sayes no such thing except Baptist make Isaac an Heretick and a false Prophet If Ishmael persecuted Isaac for his conscience which yet Baptist cannot prove from Scripture sure it was not for the hereticall conscience of Isaac nor will it help Baptist to say in the minde and conception of Ishmâ—â—l Isaac was an Heretick Answ How is that proved the Text sayes no such thing 2. We teach no such thing as that men should be punished by the Magistrate not because they are but because they seem only to â—e Heretickes or because Isaacs and Saints are Hereticks in our mind and conception but because they are so indeed as the Magistrate punisheth not justly a murtherer because he seems in the minde and conception of the Magistrate to be a murtherer but because he is a murtherer and is proved by faithfull witnesses to be a murtherer so is the Heretick proved to be a Heretick by the Magistrate and so convicted that he is self-condemned for we never make the Magistrates thoughts and his conception to be the rule of punishing an Heretick even as we are not to avoid an Heretick after admonition because he is an Heretick in our conception onely for our conception must not be the rule or formall ground of casting out any man from our society and avoiding of him but we avoid him because he is an Heretick in himself nor exhorts Peter any man to suffer for well-doing that is for his conscience or for his erroneous and hereticall conscience that is but an abusing of the word of God for he speaks not of suffering directly for onely Religion true or false though he exclude it not but saith 1 Pet. 4. 15. But let none of you suffer as a murtherer as a theefe as an ill-doer and in so saying he means that no man should as Elimas suffer blindnesse for perverting the faith of Sergius Paulus and I beleeve it will be a peece of labour for Libertines to prove that such opposers of the Gospel as Elimas and Hymeneus who suffered as ill-doers did yet know in their conscience the Gospel to be the onely saving truth and way of God and that against the warning of an illuminated conscience Elimas perverted the right wayes of God However to suffer here as a well doer by Baptists way is to suffer for an hereticall conscience defending and teaching lies in the name of the Lord If so such a well-doer if blasphemously unsound is to be thrust through and stabbed as an Impostor by the Lords
mouth Zach. 13. Lastly Baptist is so charitable of all Saints that are not for liberty of conscience as that he makes it their doom to be cast out as Ishmael and to have no share in Christ or in the Gospel But Baptist if you judge us and be not infallible you take the Lords throne upon you and you judge us before our day which is to you a strong argument against liberty of conscience c. 3. pag. 14. Know ye we are selfe-condemned and saw you Gods secret book and saw our names dashed out of the book of life and that we are inrolled with Ishmalites Take the beam out of your own eye CHAP. XXVII Whether our darknesse and incapacity to beleeve and professe together with the darknesse and obscurity of Scripture be a sufficient ground for Toleration AS Mr. John Goodwin the Lord pardon his perverting of Soules led the way from Arminian principles who teach with Socinians that 1 To know is not in our power which he and they borrowed from Aristotle but wickedly understood 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And 2 Arminians taught that God by an irresistible power works illumination in the minde So opinions not being in our power the Magistrate can have no power over men to coerce them from spreading of heresie Hence Baptist the Bounder the Stormer and other Libertines M. Goodwin speaks for That which is not in our power to doe or not doe and is wrought in us by supernaturall grace and by God onely we are not punishable by the Magistrates sword but to beleeve to repent to be sound in the faith is wrought in us by supernaturall grace and by God onely Baptist heaps together but eighteen Scriptures produced against Pelagians Papists Arminians and his brethren Socinians and old Anabaptists that no man can come to the Son except the Father draw him the naturall man understands not the things of God c. And I am sure he is ignorant of the conclusion for we professe the sword is to be drawn against no man because he repenteth not or beleeveth not c. Hence Baptist spitting out with other Antinomians his venome against us though no matter excepting the sin of it if he wronged not Christ and his truth For when a weak Christian a disciple of Servetus Socinus an Apostate denying the Lord Jesus to have come in the flesh and all the Scriptures to be the word of God tyred of longer imprisonment and death shall say You say well but how shall I prevaile with my selfe to beleeve what you say Thus reply these miserable comforters Yeeld obedience to what is taught you meditate on it often desire to beleeve it and God in time will bring you to beleeve it Then poore Popery why art thou evill spoken of and this is a lie why It is the Spirit that teacheth us to pray Abba Father This is merit and supererogations ground-stone Answ 1. What if a man void of the Spirit cannot pray ergo we should not advise him to pray Is it Popery to advise him so to doe or to pray when he wants the Spirit sure Peter taught no Popery to Simon Magus a man as void of the Spirit as any Socinian or Familist a man in the gall of bitternesse and in the bond of iniquity Act. 8. 22. Repent therefore of this thy wickednesse I conceive this is yeeld obedience to what is taught you and meditate on it and your evill wayes and change your minde and pray God though thou hast no Spirit of Adoption more then a Familist who makes you beleeve hony words or the very Spirit given to his Anointed ones such as they onely if perhaps the thoughts of thine heart may be forgiven thee and whom does the Lord command Ezek. 18. that they would make a new heart I conceive such as were as unable to doe it as to make one haire white or blacke as the Bounder saith and this is our advice not because we thinke they can do it without the Spirit of Christ more than those that move the question Act. 2. 37. What shall we doe to be saved Act. 9. 6. Act. 16. 30. But if unconverted they may be humbled and convinced that they are in a lost condition And I confesse if Antinomians will advise them to beleeve and pray though they have not the Spirit and to pray as they can and beleeve as they can and without any preparative work of the Law or sense or knowledge of sin or sicknesse for Christ immediately and forth with beleeve Christ dyed for thee obstinate Socinian and wrote thy name in the booke of life and beleeve thy election to life Baptist is a miserabâ—e comforter and how he censureth this Its Gods absolute will and pleasure you should beleeve and that you must necessarily beleeve upon perill of damnationâ— which he saith is our Catechisme I understand not except he shew us a conditionall Commandement to beleeve the Gospell and a conditionall election and reprobation suspending Gods decrees on what we are foreseen to doe and except he deny the threatnings in the Gospel which shall finde out an unbeleever Joh. 3. 18. 36. If the man be a weak Christian or a weak beleever when the advice of yeelding obedience praying desiring to beleeve is given him appearingly he would have weak Antinomians and all anointed ones loosed from all precepts rule of obedience and have them under no rule but the immediate impulsion of the Spirit which if it be his mind he should have set it down and must prove a miserable Comforter in so teaching 2. But are we in all these Scriptures that hold forth our impotencie to beleeve to thinke a good thought to doe the works of righteousness mercie truth chastitie sobrietie prescribed in the second Table unable only to conceive sound opinions of God and eschew Hereticall wayes and false Religions Are we not also unable to abstain from murther adulterie c. without the supernatural grace of God Yea all these places shall prove that the Ministerie of men Pastors and Teachers of the word are as unlawfull means of converting soules as the Magistrates Sword to beare down Heresiâ—â— O say they preaching is an Ordinance of Christ and a spiritual means ordained to convert soules the Sword is nothing but a carnall humane device I answer it is an humane device of converting souls to shed the blood of their bodie but it is to beg the question and not to prove it to call it a humane device to punish ill doers and false Teachers who pervert the souls of many 2. I speak to the Argument the only preaching of the word it alone without the Spirit can no more make an hair white or black or draw us to the Son or work repentance in sinâ—â—rs then the sword of the Magistrate can work repentance What can man doe saith the Bounder Is it not God that must give repentance to the acknowledgement of the truth So say I what
all the bloods and oppressions that the Saints suffer 3. The Apostle saith Heresies must bee our Saviour saith more of offences and sins in generall Matth. 18. 7. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and Luke saith more chap. 17. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 It s needfull scandalls shall come and its impossible but scandals must fall out then all the murthers parricides sorceries rapines for the which Christ saith there is a woe befalling the world fall out by necessity of a divine working decree yea the crucifying of the Lord of glory came to passe Acts 2. 23. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by the determinate counsell and foreknowledge of God Acts 4. 28. but yet the Magistrate is not to tolerate the shedding of innocent blood and all the offences that fall out in the Common-wealth though never so bloodie and atrocious 2. Varietie of judgements was no question a grief to Paul when he so pathetically exhorteth the Philippians to fulfill his joy and remove his grief and to be of one accord and one mind Phil. 2. 2. 2 Cor. 13. 11. Be of one mind 1 Cor. 1. 10. I beseech you be joyned together in the same mind and in the same judgement Heresies no question and errors in matters of God are not free nor can there be one spirit of grace and heavenlinesse in Arrius Apollinaris Nestorius Eutiches no more then there can be one spirit of grace in sin nor see we a glasse of Gods manifold wisedome in many sundry phantastick opinions teaching God and his son Christ it is a spotted and broken glasse and he might say variety of sins are the expressions of Gods infinite wisdome for the scripture calls Heresies works of the flesh doctrines of devils gangrenes lies delusions corruptions of the mind perverse disputing deceits perverse things dreams of their own heads false dreams vain and foolish things false burdens which cannot be spoken of opinions in Philosophy and so these windmills and midnight fancies being the brats and the dunghill conceptions of mens corrupt head and heart must be contrary to that wisedome exprest in the word 1 Cor. 2. 6. Deut. 4. 6 Psal 37. 30. and they may bee for the declaration of the wisedome of God as for the finall cause but nothing from the wisedome of God formally being themselves meer fooles Object 15. If the Magistrate be above the Church and Head thereof and to judge their matters and if he have his power from the people to govern the Church will it not follow that the people as the people have originally as men a power to govern the Church to see her doe her dutie to reform and correct her Answ Though the Magistrate punish false Teachers by the Sword he is not for that a Church governour far lesse the head of the Church no more then hee is the head of the Church because he defends them against their persecuting enemies and by his sword procureth civill peace and protection to their assemblies persons and estates for doing any thing in favour of the Church doth not make Cyrus Artaxerxes Darius spiritual Officers and give them a headship over the Church 2. The Christian Magistrate having power from the peoples free election to imploy his sword for the external peace of the Church hath not therefore power of governing the Church from the people 1. Because the civill using of the sword for the outward peace of the Church is not a governing of the Church but the civil external and corporal sheilding of them 2. It no more followeth that the people as men have the ruling of the Church because they chose a godly Magistrate to watch over their external peace then the people as Christians can be said to have a power to preach the word and administer the Sacraments or Seals of the covenant because the people as Christian men choose ministers who have power from Christ to preach administer the Seals for to chuse a governor to rule over them is no act of government no more then the wives chusing of the Husband to be her head and govern the family is an act of the Headship and governing of the Family nor doe the people in chusing a King exercise an act of royall and Kingly power over themselves by such an act of chusing nor doth an Armie in chusing a Captain General over themselves in so doing exercise any act of a Captain Gerall over themselves 3. Neither doe the people as men but as Christian men walking by the rule of the Word which is a Catholike directorie to all men and all societies in all morall duties Psal 119 9 96 105 130. Ps 19. 7 8 9 choose such and such Christian Rulers who may procure the good of the Church and keepe and guard both Tables of the Law for the word of God giveth direction to the people that they should not as men or as Heathens choose any sort of Rulers but godly men fearing God and such Kings as read in the Book of the Law when they sit upon the Throne Deut. 11. c. 17. 15 16 17 18 19 20. Exod. 18. 21. Nor is it true which Vaticanus replyeth to Calvin thefts rapines and adulteriâ—e are punished by the Magistrate not to make up the Kingdome of Christ and to justifie men and make them godly as we say and Calvin saith the Magistrate punisheth Hereticks For where doth Augustine say that the Magistrate punisheth Seducers to convert them to God as if the intrinsecall end of the Magistrate were to conquer a spirituall Kingdom to Christ Calvin saith the just contrary in that same place verum quidem esse fateor utque vi armatâ erectum ab initi suisse regnum Christi neque armorum praesidio stare Evangelii enim pradicatione regnare Christum oportet Itaque Dominus quo illustrior esset vocis sua efficacia nudes inormes misit Apostolos nec modo destitui veluit terrenâ potantiâ sed totum faere mundum habere infestum ut calestem esse Evangelii victoriam omnibus constaret Obj. 16. But the Apostles sought not Laws from the Emperors by which Hereticks might be compelled to imbrace the sound faith Answ Gaudentius a Donatist Bishop objected the same to Augustine and Augustine answers Because Emperors were enemies to Christian Religion therefore Christians sought not their helpe Obj. 17. But the particulars of your directorie of worship are not in Scripture how then can the Magistrate punish for not following the Directorie Answ That there should be prayers preaching reading praising of God Sâ—craments in the publike worship is evident by the Scripture but for the ordering of these worships secundum prius posterius the words of prayer so they bee according to the pattern of sound doctrine the Preface of the Directorie is clear that no man is therein to be compelled though to transgresse the Holy Ghosts expresse order in the celebration of the Lords Supper and to break bread