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A91474 The watcher: or, The stone cut out of the mountains without hands, striking at the feet of the image, whose head is gold, and brest of silver, and thighs of brass, and legs of iron, and feet part iron and part clay, Dan. 2. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35. Or, A discovery of the ground and end of all forms, professions, sects and opinions, and also how they now are made as friends, and joyn hand in hand against the substance, the life and power of God, which is now made manifest in his sons and daughters (according to his promise) as hath been plainly manifest in several meetings betwixt the people called Quakers, and the people called Baptists, which is here describ'd. And also a description of the true Church, ... / VVritten by a friend to all tender hearted ones, who hunger and thirst after God, who are hoping and seeking in forms for life, to the directing of their mindes, where and how to finde the true light which leads into the true life and power of Godliness, the end of all forms, where I rest with all who in spirit read me, who am known to them who are without, by the name, Iames Parnell. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P541; Thomason E845_18; ESTC R621 62,535 56

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of this World Here all you are shut out who live at ease in your pleasures and live want only upon the earth in the lust of the flesh the lust of the eye Iames 5.5.6 and the pride of life you are the Children of Babylon you kill the just and he lies slain in the streets but here you all are shut out of the new Covenant of Life in the dark world under deaths dominion of what profession and judgment soever Alians and Strangers to the Covenant of Promise for they that are not with us are against us and our union and society is in the light of life Mat. 12.30 but you must all suffer the death of the Cross to the life which you now live in before you can witness this Redemption for those that live with Christ are crucified with him therefore so it is they that wil take up life must first lay down life for the way to life is through death therefore you must be stripped of all your old covers naked and bare that your deceit and shame may appear which you have so long covered with your own righteousness but now you must suffer the shame of the Cross if you would have part in Christ and all your old wisdome knowledg and notions which you have gotten into your comprehensions by your conceivings of the Scripture Letter wherin hath bin your life and pride and exaltation must all come to the death of the Cross that no flesh should glory in his presence but I say unto all you Professors Formalists Notionists and Disputers and Wise ones of this World if you will not take up and imbrace this Cross Publicans and Harlots shall enter the Kingdome before you therefore not many mighty nor many noble nor many wise after the flesh are called but he hath chosen the foolish things of this world to confound the wise 1 Cor. 25.26 to the end and the weak to confound those that are mighty that no FLESH should glory in his PRESENCE but CHRIST is made over unto us Wisdome Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption that they which glory might glory in the Lord and this I witness in my measure the things which I have seen and heard and felt and tasted of the good Word of Life which was in the beginning the same do I declare and am known and read by the children of Light And now I shall proceed to severall passages that I have had with the people called Baptists in seveverall meetings that their deceit and delusion may be laid open to the simple hearted Upon the thirtieth day of the first Month called March in the yeare 1655. I was atone Ashens house in Fenstanten in Huntingtonshire where I was freely declaring the Truth of God to the people that came there together that day as I was taught and moved by the Spirit of Truth by which the holy men of God spoke forth the Scripture as they was moved and there came severall of the people called Baptists into the Roome amongst us amongst whom was one of their Teachers called Richard Elligood who after a while stood up in his wil and wisdome to accuse me and said that I said that God did not respect any forms and yet saith he you use the form and so use that which God hath no respect to but his first words was Sir if you please I wil speak something to what you have said to which I made answer here needs no complements and then he runs on as aforesaid to which accusation I replyed was false and bid him prove what form I used and he said the Letter and I replyed he that takes the Letter to talk of without the life and power such sets up a Form and makes a Form but this would not satisfie his filthy wisdome which darkned his understanding but because I spoke words which are mentioned in the Scripture by the same spirit that spoke forth the Scripture by which I challenge the Scripture from him and all such who have gotten it to talk of but denies the life and are strangers to the life and power therefore with his contrary spirit tasked me with a Form which by his logick and deceitfull art would have proved but could not but his deceit was laid open to the people and many declared against him for a form is this as I said before the likeness of a thing but not the thing it self as they have the likeness of a Church which they have imagined from the Letter with their Elders Pastors and Teachers but not the Church it selfe and so they imitate the Scriptures but live not in the life of them that spoke forth the Scriptures neither are acted or guided by the same spirit that gave forth the Scriptures and so wants the life and power and those are the formalists that makes forms and likenesses to deceive the simple as the devil hath the form of an Angell of Light but not the life and power who appears to rule in those formalists and selfe-actors but the day doth make him manifest and therefore he rages and then this Elligood denyed that I had the same spirit that gave forth the Scripture and he said the Spirit might be tryed by the Letter for he said many false Spirits are entred into the world and I asked him by what did the Apostle know that false spirits were gon out into the world and he replyed and said by the Spirit of God then I replyed and said if by the Spirit of God the Apostle knew that there was many false spirits gone out into the world then by the Spirit of God he tryed false Spirits and knew false spirits from the true and here his deceit was laid open to the people and he judged out of his own mouth to be a lyar and to be guided by a false spirit who would try the living by the dead and again he said that one Spirit could not try another for by that judgments the evil Spirits might try the good Spirits to which I replyed by the Spirit of God all other spirits are tryed and also that by the Light darkness is discovered but Darkness cannot comprehend the Light neither discover the Light and here again his blindness and ignorance and deceit was much discovered to the people although he fed himself and would have shufled it off by his consequences and filthy logick but it the more laid open his deceit and presently the said Elligood was found with another lye in his mouth for he said that I said the thing should be proved by every mans spirit which was a very lye for I said that the baptisme of the spirit was the substance of the outward baptisme the which he denyed and bid me prove it and I said I spoke to the witness in every mans conscience which his dark mind could not comprehend but with his dark mind wrested my words and therefore said that I said it was witnessed by every mans spirit but his
baptised into his death thou blind hypocrite was this water baptisme they that are in Christ are new Creatures and so are not those who are baptised with water but they are in the same nature as they was before and thou mayest read in Corinthians the twelf what baptisme that was he spoke of there for saith he by one Spirit are we all baptised into one body c. and they that are thus baptised are baptised into Christ but as I said before it is not the washing away the filth of the flesh and here is thy folly and ignorance laid open who art so blind as to bring this Scripture to prove water baptisme to be an ordinance of Christ and again it saith they was baptised into his death and in the same Chapter it saith they that are dead are freed from sin and this thou denyed that any could be set free from sin so long as they are upon the earth thus thou denies Jesus Christ his ordinances who came to take away sin to clense his people from thier sin but praised be the Lord we do witness a freedom from sin by Jesus Christ who is the Lamb of God who came to take away the sin of the world to redem his peope from their sin and to redeme unto himself a pure Church not having spot or wrinckle or any such thing and saith he if the Son have set you free then are you free indeed and here is the liberty of the Sons of God Iohn 8.36 1 Iohn 3.1 and now are we the Sons of God and now they that witness this and confess it such blind hypocrites as thou calls them blasphemers and so denies Jesus Christ come in the flesh and so are of Antichrist and one while thou affirmed in thy Pulpet that they that pressed and led people into holiness was no deceivers but they that led them into sin and evil was deceivers and then afterward told the people they never could be free from sin so long as they are upon the earth and thus thou would settle them upon the lees and deny Jesus Christ come in the flesh who comes to clense from all sin and thus art thou judged out of thy own mouth for a deceiver And thou also brought this Scripture to maintain water baptism where the Apostle said for as many of you as have been baptised unto Christ Gal. 3.27 have put on Christ now let any whose understandings are enlightned by the Light of Christ read this Scripture and see if this mention water baptisme and if any by water baptisme do now put on Christ and by the Light judge thee to be a Lyar and a deceiver and a perverter of the Scripture to thy own destruction and all who believes thee except you repent and then thou run on to prove the Letter to be the word by way of despising those that say that God is the word and that there is no written word when the Letter saith it self that the word is God and then thou brought this Scripture to prove the Letter to be the Word in 1 Pet. 1.23 Being born again not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible by the word of God which liveth and abideth for ever for all flesh is grass and the glory of man as the flower of grass the grass withereth and the flower fadeth away but the word of the Lord endureth for ever and this is the word which by the Gospel is preached unto you here thou dark sot thy blindness and ignorance is more laid open is the letter immortal or any written word immortal or liveth or abideth for ever or is any born again but of God and is not he that same immortal word which the Scripture often bears testimony unto and also in this place Iohn 15.3 and Christ the Lamb of God is the everlasting Gospel who preached the word and his Apostles was made clean through the word which he preached unto them but this was not the dead Letter in the which thou would find life Iohn 5.39 and so art seeking the living amongst the dead like the blinde Pharise who thought in the Scripture to find eternall life but would not come unto Christ that they might have life and here thou art in their steps though thou made light of this Scripture and said that some added yee to it and said ye search the Scripture for in them ye think to have eternall life they are they that testifie of me but ye wil not come unto me that ye might have life this was spoken by Christ unto the Pharises who could not believe that he was the Christ but thought in the Scriptures to find eternal life but would not come unto Christ that they might have life and therefore he bid them search the Scripture for there the Prophets had prophesied of him and thereby they might know that he was the Christ if they had searched with the single eye therefore without yee I say unto thee search the Scriptures for they are they that beare testimony of Christ to be the word and all that do search the Scripture with a single eye wil find Christ to be the word and wil believe it Iohn 1.24 and not be so blind as to put the Letter for the Word as thou dost who brought another Scripture with thy dark mind where the Apostle saith ye have a more sure word of Prophesie the which ye do wel to take heed unto as to a light shining in a dark place until the day dawn and the day star arise in your hearts 2 Pet. 1.19 Isa 5.20 Here thou stil the more manifests thy blindness who puts darkness for light and light for darkness and so art under the wo from the Lord who puts the Letter for the light how doth the Letter shine and what dark place doth it shine in as a Light here the ignorant may see thy folly and thus thou art a Stranger to the Light of Christ which dwelt in the Children of God and the word is nigh in the heart and in the mouth Rom. to which thou shewest thy self a Stranger who drawes peoples mindes from this word in their hearts to the Letter without putting that for the word and so art a blinde guide and a deceiver who cryes Lo here without in the Letter when the Apostle saith Go not forth the Word is nigh in the heart And thus thou opposes the Apostle and draws from his Doctrine and brings another Doctrine and so art not to be received 2 Iohn 10. but held as accursed as thou art by the children of Light and sometimes thou called the Letter the Word and sometimes a Story and here was thy confusion and then thou run on with thy fauning dissembling Speeches making a shew oftentimes to the people of speaking more of a matter but for wearing their patience Oh blush and be ashamed of thy Doctrine now thou makes it appear what filthy stuff it
is that art afraid it should weary peoples patience to hear it if it was of God it would not be wearisome to any thing of God to hear it but it was not of God therefore I am sure it was wearisome and burdensome to the Spirit of God and here thou art shut out with thy frothy Stuff and vain Complements to be a deceiver and then thou said If you please I will speak more and thus thou markes out thy selfe for a Man-pleaser and the Apostle said If I yet pleased men I should not be a servant of Christ Now read thy self where thou art Gal. 1.10 who art yet a man-pleaser who comes with such inticing words of mens wisdome so that the Preaching of the CROSS to thee is foolishness and the Prophets who had the Spirit of the LORD and the Word of the LORD they spoke whether they would heare or forbeare and here thou art shut out both from the Spirit of GOD and the Word of GOD which is one who art a Man-pleaser and if not a Servant of CHRIST then a Servant of the DEVILL and so I marke thee out that all may know thee and no longer bee deceived by thee with the shadow instead of the substance with thy inticing words of Mens wisdome and thou told the people thou spoke to the Reason of Man when as all men in the fall their Reason is corrupted and the naturall Man receives not the things of GOD 1. Cor. 2.14 Ier. 10.14 for Man by nature is worse then a Beast and there art thou who art preaching to the corrupt Reason of MAN in the FALL to judge of thy corrupt stuffe for I know there was none there that owned thee but such like but the Message of PAVL was to turne Peoples mindes from Darkness to Light but thou strive to draw Peoples mindes from the Light within Act. 26.18 to the Dead LETTER without them telling them that was the LIGHT and that was the WORD and so thou bewitched them with thy Lying Divinations and bid them search that and read often that and cleave unto that but I say they that read that and not by the light within them read a parable and it is unto them as a book sealed though they may by their carnall wisdome add their own meanings but that must be shut out of the Scripture 2 Pet. 3.16 for such are unlearned and unfruitfull in the word and so wrests the Scripture to their own destruction but by this know that I go not about to draw men from reading the Scripture so that they read with this single eye the Light which gave it forth so shal they that read understand but to thee this is a mystery and therefore thou went about to deny Christ in man and God in man by way of derision to those that witnessed forth Christ within God within thou saith that he meant he was in them by his words and thou brought this Scripture if you abide in me and my words abide in you ye shall ask what you will and it shall be done unto you in this place thou Serpent he meant as he spoke but Paul witnessed Christ within and said They that could not witness Christ within was Reprobates and so art thou who denies Christ come in the flesh and Paul preached Christ within the hope of glory Gal. 2.20 2 Cor. 13 5. Col. 1.26 27. the ministry which had been hid and so it seems is stil from thee therefore to thee this preaching is foolishness and as fancies and whimsies but unto us that are saved Christ the power of God and the wisdome of God by which thy folly and thy ignorance of Christ is here made manifest and that thou never escaped the polutions of the world by the knowledg of Christ who denies him as he is known to all who have escaped the polutions of the world by the knowledg of him and they that thus know him not 2 Coo. 13.5 are in the reprobation here art thou a Minister of Antichrist who denies Christ come in the flesh and then thou went on with thy deluding spirit pressing the wicked to pray yea there was many there present of the people of the world besides thy own company whom both thou and thy company counts as heathen yet thou pressed them much to pray and to take unto them words and pray whenas the Scripture saith The prayers of the wicked are abominable and thus thou did that which was abominable in the sight of God Pro. 15.8 in praying thy self and teaching the wicked to pray and to steal other mens words and pray for neither you nor they have any words but what you steal out of the Scripture for thou hast shut thy self from that by which the Apostles preached therefore thou thus runs into confusion and thou told the people of deceivers and nominated them to be such as denyed Baptisme and Ordinances of Christ and the Scripture and the Resurrection of the Dead and eternall judgment so when thou had done thy divination and thy formal prayer I stood up and claimed the order of the true Church that all might speak one by one and if any thing was revealed to him that stands by let the first hold his peace and then like Cain thy countenance fel thou being struck with guilt in thy conscience 2 Cor. 14.30 31 and fear surprised the heart of the hypocrite and thou was shufling away but I bid the stand for said I thou art a deceiver as I shall prove the one before all the people therefore stand to maintain what thou hast said but said I unto the people the Prophets and Apostles and the holy men of God who spoke forth the Scriptures they spoke from the infallible spirit of God as they was acted guided and moved thereby but all who comes with their words and pretending to preach and not from the same infallible Spirit such are deceivers of which this man is one who stands here in the seat of the Pharisee and he being smitten with guilt fetled to be gone and several would have stopped him but he said he would be gone unlese they kept him in by violence and I said unto the people know this that these things wherewith he marks out deceivers I own so that I am none of those for the Scripture I own and the true Baptism of Christ I own the Resurrection from the Dead I own and eternal judgment upon the wicked I own so that I am none of those which he marked out but this man is a deceiver and so I shall prove him if he will stay but thou Ray was ashamed of thy Ministry and durst not stand to what thou had said but plainly like a hireling fled from thy stage and left thy Flock like a cowardly Serpent I never knew Baptist so routed out of a Pulpet but the Independants joyned with him and the Priests rude multitude stood up for him and several
Mat. 5.34 but out of the Doctrine of Chirst and so hath not God so I told him of his swearing and he would have shufled it off but he could not 2 Iobn 9. and I told him He that seems to be Religious and brideleth not his tongue his Religion is vain and therefore he might own his Religoin to be vain who could not bridle his tongue and then in his wil he shufled off and said he would not confess his sin to me Iam. 1.26 for I could not forgive sin in scorn he spoke then I said wo unto him that hides his sin and covers his iniquity but he shufled away in much confusion of face as they wil all appear as by the Light they come to be searched and tryed their coverings wil be found too narrow and their nakedness will appear to their great shame and confusion of face and they will be made to bow to the truth and lay down their Crowns at the feet of Iesus for he is risen and reigns in his Saints to whom the Nations must bow and every tongue confess to their condemnation who do oppose him but here now by the single eye you may see the emptiness of these forms and what a blind hypocrisie this is of them to wash the outside but leaves the inside full of uncleanness and so the inside defiles the outside A Copy of the Queries which was sent to the Baptised people in Fenstanton with some more added for them or any whom they do concern to answer Severall queries to you which be called Baptists by your Teachers to be answered Querie 1. VVHat is the first Principle of Religion and whether to it you be come yea or nay 2. VVhat is the bridle of the tongue and whether to it you be come yea or nay 3. VVhat is the Church in God and whether to it you be come yea or nay 4. VVhat is the order in the Church and whether to it you be come yea or nay 5. VVhat is the Baptisme into the Church and whether to it you be come yea or nay 6. VVhether you will own the Baptisme of the Spirit or the Baptisme of water and which you will deny seeing the Scripture saith The Baptisme is but one Eph. 4 5. 7. And where Christ ever commanded water Baptisme 8. VVhy did the Apostles Baptise with water and why do you baptise with water and where and when and by what were you commanded and where was any of the twelve Apostles baptised with water 9. And whether you do it because the Apostles did it yea or nay 10. VVhat is the Faith of our Lord Iesus Christ and whether to it you be come yea or nay 11. VVhether your Faith purifie your Hearts yea or nay 12. And whether you commit sin yea or nay 13. How would you know there is a Christ but by the Scripture and how do you witness the Scripture is truth 14. And what is the ground of your faith 15. VVhat is the redemption and whether to it you be come yea or nay 16. VVat is the Communion of the Saints and wherein it stands and whether to it you be come yea or nay 17. And whether you that breaks bread do discern the Lords body yea or nay 18. VVhat was their rule and guide that spoke forth the Scripture 19. VVhether you have the same infallible Spirit that gave forth the Scripture 20. VVhether is the Scripture your rule and guide or the spirit that gave it forth 21. VVhether they that are guided by the Spirit that gave it forth live not in the life thereof yea or nay 22. VVhether the life of the Scripture be perfect yea or nay 23. And whether you are or think to be made perfect while you are upon the earth yea or nay Or where do you think to be made perfect if not upon the earth 24. And what is the life and power of godliness and whether in it you dwell who have a form yea or nay 25. VVhether you be washed and cleansed by the blood of the Lord Iesus and the spirit of our God as the true Church was yea or nay 26. VVhether you have put off the old man and put on the new as the true Church did yea or nay and what is the new man 27. And whether you have put off the image of the earthly and put on the image of the heavenly and how are they known the one from the other 28. VVhether you be not conformed like unto the world so long as you follow their customes and fashions 29. VVhether you be come that you need no man to teach you as the true Church was yea or nay 30. VVhat is the cross whereby Paul was crucified and whether to it you be come yea or nay 31. What is the watcher that strikes at the feet of the Image and whether to it you be come yea or nay 32. What is the word and what is the death that hath passed over all men even over those that had not sinned after the similitude of Adams transgression and whether this death you ever passed 33. Whether you have passed from death to life yea or nay 34. Where and when and how received you the command and power to deliver any soul up to Satan and where is that Satan you deliver it up to 35. What is the tree of life and what is the tree of Knowledge and whether upon it you do not feed and what is the flaming sword that is set to keepe from the tree of life and whether it you ever passed yea or nay 36. What is the beast which all the world wonders after and worships and what is the worship of the beast and whether any worships the only true God but the true church and what is the worship in this church 37. What are you Ministers of and what do you minister unto and what is the end of your ministry 38. And by what do you try the Spirits and by what did the Prophets and Apostles try the spirits and whether yours is the same tryer of Spirits as theirs was yea or nay 39. What is the faith of the Saint and what is the faith of the hypocrite and how are they known the one from the other 40. How and by what was you called to the ministry which you profess 41. What is the Gospel which you profess and what is the light of the Gospell which the infidel cannot see and what is an infidel and what is the eye which the God of the world blindes in the infidel 42. VVhat is the state and condition of the Iew inwardly whose praise is not of man but of God and wherein doth he differ from the Iew outwardly 43. VVhat is the new Csvenant and where any in the New Covenant paid Tythes and why do you cry against the Priests and their Tythes and their worship and yet upholds them by paying them Tythes and helping to maintain their places of worship and whether this be