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A00728 Of the Church fiue bookes. By Richard Field Doctor of Diuinity and sometimes Deane of Glocester. Field, Richard, 1561-1616.; Field, Nathaniel, 1598 or 9-1666. 1628 (1628) STC 10858; ESTC S121344 1,446,859 942

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any_o part_n of_o hell_n wherefore_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o imagine_v upon_o the_o bare_a &_o only_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o abraham_n &_o the_o rich_a man_n in_o hell_n be_v in_o the_o same_o pit_n divide_v only_o by_o a_o empty_a gulf_n between_o they_o see_v tertullian_n a_o very_a ancient_a writer_n that_o know_v the_o force_n of_o this_o word_n as_o well_o as_o bellarmine_n affirm_v notwithstanding_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v be_v infer_v from_o thence_o 4_o that_o abraham_n bosom_n be_v on_o high_a far_o above_o those_o infernal_a dwelling_n of_o the_o damn_a whereunto_o that_o in_o the_o proverb_n agree_v 24._o the_o way_n of_o life_n be_v on_o high_a to_o the_o prudent_a to_o avoid_v from_o hell_n beneath_o the_o next_o place_n that_o the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o prove_v limbus_n be_v that_o of_o 28._o samuel_n who_o the_o pythonisse_fw-la raise_v when_o saul_n consult_v she_o be_v destitute_a of_o other_o mean_n of_o direction_n but_o this_o place_n of_o all_o other_o make_v least_o to_o the_o purpose_n it_o be_v very_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v true_a samuel_n that_o appear_v or_o satan_n take_v unto_o he_o a_o body_n and_o come_v forth_o in_o the_o likeness_n of_o samuel_n but_o let_v we_o suppose_v it_o be_v true_a samuel_n can_v not_o his_o soul_n return_v from_o some_o other_o place_n as_o well_o as_o out_o of_o limbus_n no_o doubt_v it_o may_v &_o that_o which_o bellarmine_n have_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o samuel_n appear_v unto_o saul_n seem_v to_o come_v out_o of_o the_o earth_n and_o consequent_o out_o of_o limbus_n be_v a_o very_a silly_a conceit_n for_o what_o eye_n can_v see_v &_o discern_v samuel_n soul_n but_o say_v he_o samuel_n appear_v tell_v saul_n a_o wicked_a &_o godless_a man_n that_o he_o shall_v be_v with_o he_o very_o short_o therefore_o he_o be_v in_o some_o region_n of_o hell_n &_o not_o in_o heaven_n see_v this_o wicked_a king_n can_v not_o go_v to_o he_o into_o heaven_n we_o need_v not_o seek_v far_o for_o answer_v to_o this_o objection_n for_o the_o ordinary_a locum_fw-la gloss_n do_v excellent_o answer_v it_o say_n that_o if_o these_o be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o a_o lie_a spirit_n they_o may_v be_v understand_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o common_a condition_n of_o death_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o same_o place_n there_o be_v so_o great_a a_o distance_n between_o they_o &_o so_o sure_o settle_v &_o establish_v touch_v this_o appear_a samuel_n i_o find_v great_a difference_n of_o opinion_n among_o divine_n some_o think_v it_o be_v true_a samuel_n the_o man_n of_o god_n other_o a_o lie_a spirit_n in_o his_o likeness_n lyra_n in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o the_o 1._o of_o king_n chapter_n 28_o put_v
more_o full_o shall_v be_v enjoy_v rest_a in_o the_o first_o degree_n as_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n move_v we_o to_o believe_v so_o if_o it_o be_v weaken_v that_o kind_n &_o degree_n of_o faith_n that_o stay_v on_o it_o fall_v to_o the_o ground_n have_v no_o other_o sufficient_a stay_n but_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o faith_n in_o respect_n of_o she_o two_o other_o degree_n she_o have_v a_o more_o sure_a and_o firm_a ground_n &_o stay_v to_o rest_n upon_o and_o therefore_o supra_fw-la august_n affirm_v that_o the_o truth_n clear_o manifest_v itself_o unto_o we_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o all_o those_o thing_n that_o commend_v unto_o we_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n &_o that_o there_o be_v certain_a spiritual_o mind_a man_n who_o in_o this_o life_n attain_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o heavenly_a truth_n &_o sincere_a wisdom_n without_o all_o doubt_n discern_v it_o though_o but_o in_o part_n &_o weak_o in_o that_o they_o be_v man_n of_o which_o number_n there_o be_v no_o question_n but_o that_o aug_n be_v one_o so_o that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o be_v the_o sole_a or_o principal_a motive_n or_o reason_n at_o that_o time_n when_o he_o write_v of_o his_o present_a persuasion_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o heavenly_a mystery_n contain_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o treatiser_n will_v make_v we_o believe_v but_o have_v to_o do_v with_o the_o manichee_n who_o promise_v the_o evident_a and_o clear_a knowledge_n of_o truth_n but_o fail_v to_o perform_v that_o they_o promise_v urge_v he_o to_o believe_v that_o which_o they_o can_v not_o make_v he_o know_v to_o be_v true_a he_o profess_v that_o if_o he_o must_v believe_v without_o discern_v the_o truth_n of_o that_o he_o believe_v he_o must_v rest_v on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n for_o the_o manichee_n have_v no_o authority_n sufficient_a to_o move_v a_o man_n to_o believe_v in_o this_o sort_n now_o the_o catholic_a church_n command_v he_o 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