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A30771 The several ways of resolving faith in the Roman and Reformed Churches with the authors impartial thoughts upon each of them, and his own opinion at length shewn, wherein the rule of faith doth consist ... Banckes, Matthew. 1677 (1677) Wing B632; ESTC R20075 29,922 220

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by these Lines here following transcrib'd from thence Quibus potissimum Testimoniis Praesidiis nemque Scriptura Traditionibus in confirmandis Dogmatibus instaurandis in Ecclesia Moribus sit usura Synodus For Scripture and Traditions cannot here be taken for Christs Doctrine it self but for Characters and Sounds apt to discover what is meant by them From the whole therefore I gather That the Council of Trent resolves Faith into Scripture and Traditions when taken for the Word of God or Doctrine of Salvation as into it's proper Object and into the same Scripture and Traditions when taken the one for a Testimony in Writing the other for an Oral Testimony as into it's adequat Rule saving what the Adverb potissimùm in the last recited Passage of the Council may peradventure abate In hopes to enervate the force of this Discourse 't will not improbably be said That Scripture and Apostolical Traditions are granted to be held by the Tridentin Council the Totum or Extent of all reveal'd Truths and consequently the Characters and Sounds or the written and unwritten words wherein they are contain'd the material Rule of Faith but seeing it is Oral Tradition that informs us of the sense of both this alone is the formal Rule of Faith and that even according to the mind of the Trent Fathers themselves as the subsequent Passage of the second Decree of the fourth Session testifieth Ad coercenda petulantia ingenia decernit eadem scilicet Sacrosancta Synodus et nemo suae prudentiae innixus in rebus Fidei Morum ad aedificationem Doctrinae Christianae pertinentium sacram Scripturam ad suos sensus contorquens contra eum sensum quem tenuit ac tenet Sancta Mater Ecclesia cujus est judicare de vero sensa interpretatione Scripturarum sanctarum aut etiam contra sensum unanimem Patrum ipsam Scripturam sacram interpretari audeat In return to this I shall not deny but that if Holy Scripture were Writ and Apostolical Traditions express'd in Words not plainly significative of one determinate sense but had their intelligibleness in Matters of Faith and Manners from Oral Tradition this alone would be the formal Rule of Faith But then in case the thing were truely so and the late quoted place of the Council intended as much I see not how that learned Assembly can be clear'd from contradicting it self since Scripture and Apostolical Traditions if meer unintelligible Characters and Sounds without their suppos'd authentick Interpreter Oral Tradition would be so farr from being two Witnesses or Testimonies of Christs Doctrine which yet as was seen the Council solemnly and not transiently calls them that they would neither of them be any Witness or Testimony thereof at all the very nature and office of a Witness or Testimony being this to manifest and render intelligible to those who are immediatly concern'd to understand it what it bears witness or gives testmony unto immediatly I say concern'd but who those are in respect of the Rule of Christian Faith I deferr the enquiry of to another place At present in regard it will not I prefume be admitted that the Council contradicts it self the sence of the rehearsed Passage is farr more obvious then that which hath been mention'd if not evident to be this That whensoever the Holy Scripture is through either weakness or wilfulness drawn to a wrong sense it of Right belongs to the Governors of the Church to declare the true sence thereof which the Council might very well think to be just and fitting without supposing the words of Scripture to be unsens'd Characters since experience dayly shews that things easie to be understood are often mistaken by the vulgar and very plain words and sentences wrested by men of subtil wits to a perverse sense Two Witnesses then of Christs Doctrine viz. Scripture and Traditions the Council of Trent still seems to me plainly to assert But besides these let 's consider if there was not moreover a third which the Prelats had an eye to in respect of something defin'd by them for I cannot conjecture what they should mean by the Word potissimùm mentioned before except this That there are some divine Truths which are not so clearly contain'd either in Scripture or Apostolical Traditions as to be sufficiently attested by them and that therefore they stood need of a further Testimony to make them manifest which whether it was the unanimous consent of the Fathers or the immediat assistance of the Holy Spirit or something els which the Council intended I have no need to be scrupulous about since my business in this place was no more but to discover Whether the Church of Rome as 't is affirm'd by the Traditionists do really rely on this Maxim for her Faith that it was recommended to her as Orally descending by a continued succession from Christ and his Apostles or that it is but a thing speciously pretended on her behalf to avouch her Doctrine by wherein as the preceding Discourse hath already shewn in general so the subsequent will hereafter shew in particular what the truth to my apprehension is whilst that which has been said concerning the Council of Trents opinion in the Point shall be further seconded and confirm'd by several Instances out of the same The first shall be That it has defin'd Sess 4 Decree 1. What Books are Canonical Sp●ture and anathematizes those who will not receive them as such amongst which the Epistle to the Hebrews is one and yet it has not always been esteem'd Canonical by the Western Church as is granted by Cardinal Perron and others of the Romish Profession that St. Jerom whose testimony cannot be in reason refus'd affirms for being in his time an eminent Member of the same Church he could not be ignorant of her practice and that he would Write an untruth whereof he might easily be detected is not at all credible The Second Instance is That the Books Arocryphal for which there is no Universal Tradition that they are the Word of God as Dr. Cosins late Lord Bishop of Durham in his Scholastical History of the Canon of Scripture shews are defin'd by the Council of Trent Sess 4. Decree 1. to be Canonical Scripture The third and last Instance which at present I shall produce is to be seen Sess 7. Can. 9. of the Trent Synod where we find it thus defining Si quis dixerit in tribus Sacramentis Baptismo scil Confirmatione Ordine non imprimi Characterem in anima hoc est signum quoddam spirituale indelebile unde ea iterari non possunt Anathema sit These according to the Traditionists are the words or at least the sence of the words of the Church diffusive pronounc'd by it's Representative by which it seems there is a Tradition that a Character or a certain Spiritual indeleble signe is imprinted in the Souls of those who are baptiz'd confirm'd and ordain'd Now That the generality of Pastors Parents Tutors
THE SEVERAL WAYS Of Resolving FAITH IN THE ROMAN and REFORMED CHURCHES With the Authors impartial thoughts upon each of them And his own Opinion at length shewn wherein the Rule of Faith doth consist Which clears upon rational Grounds the Church of England from criminal Schism and laies the Cause of the separation upon the Roman YORK Printed by Stephen Bulkley and are to be sold by Richard Lambart Book-seller in the Minster-yard 1677. THE PUBLISHER To the Pious and Intelligent READER IF Reader thou be indeed so qualified as the style I give thee imports the following Treatise will I am confident find a very gratefull acceptance with thee For as the Subject of it's Discourse is of highest Consequence and so esteem'd by all who have a greater value for the Truth of Christianity then for the Concern of secular Interests and Enjoyments so will the handling of it be with that impartiality sincerity and seriousness seen perform'd that thou'lt easily own it to be a Tract wholly design'd for conviction and satisfaction not at all for contention or ostentation This 't is true makes it appear in a plain and homely dress the Author having purposely declin'd Rhetoricall Ornaments as fitter for an eloquent insinuating Harangue then for a controversiall strict Discourse whose aime and intent should not be to please the Phansie with gay and empty appearences but to fix the Understanding with plain and solid Truths Whereunto how far this small Piece in what it treats of is conducible I shall wholly leave to thy own impartiall thoughts to judge Permit me yet which with modesty enough I may crave to use the freedome to tell thee that the Way the Author takes for effecting his desire which is to be confirm'd upon sure Grounds What the Means instituted by God for attaining to the certain knowledge of Christs Doctrin be is such that nothing but very calumny can accuse him of any sinister or partiall proceeding This although a Motive materiall for recommending the perusall of his Book especially considering how polemick Disputes are too frequently mannag'd yet was my apprehension of the soundness of the Discourse it self and of the great assistance it brings to the rationall defence of the truly Protestant Profession but not of whatsoever is so call'd by every Opinionist the principall Inducement that mov'd me with my friends permission to publish it I speak not this Courteous Reader to forestall in the least thy Judgement but remit thee to thy full liberty and the rather because to do otherwise were to offer violence to the nature of the Treatise it selfe whose entire complexion in the whole and every part thereof is ingenuous and free looking on whatsoever is within it's prospect with the most equall eye imaginable and yet passing over nothing of moment without a due inspection of it as by an indifferent view thereof thou wilt easily perceive Farewell The Contents SEction 1. There is a Rule of Christian Faith or a Way whereby to come to the certain knowledge of Christs Doctrine instituted by God Three different Opinions among the Learned of the Roman Religion where that Way is to be found or wherein the Rule of Faith as 't is called by Controvertists doth consist Sect. 2. The Ground of the first Opinion of the Romanists which places the Rule of Faith in the Definition of a General Council confirmed by the Pope being this That a General Council confirm'd by the Pope cannot erre in Matters of Religion seriously consider'd of and thought to be erroneous Sect. 3. The Reason of the second Opinion among the Romish Party namely That the Definition of a General Council conciliarly proceeding with or without the Pope is the Rule of Faith held to be That a General Council conciliarly acting is infallible in Catholick Points of Faith taken into consideration and it 's double meaning explain'd the truth of which in one of them only is here brought to the Test the certainty of it in it's other sense being left to be examin'd in it's due place afterward Sect. 4. The Foundation whereon we find the third Opinion of the Romanists to wit that Oral Tradition or the living Voice of the Present Church in every Age is the Rule of Faith to be built viz. That Tradition is in Articles of Faith perpetually the same in all Ages well div'd into and more largely because of the present great vogue it has with the learned of the Romish Profession here in England insisted on then the Grounds of both the two former Opinions are Sect. 5. The Controvertists of the Reformed Church make Scripture the Rule of Faith Two main different Opinions notwithstanding in what sense it is so held to be The former Assertion viz. That the Scripture is clear to every understanding illuminated by the Holy Ghost in all those things which are necessary to salvation throughly inspected and esteem'd to be more plausible then sound A Sect that holds private inspiration of the Spirit of God absolutely necessary as well for knowing as understanding the Word of God Another sort of People who talk of a Light within them to be their sole Guide in Matters of Belief and Practise Both these Pretensions fairly discuss'd and found to be Delusions Sect. 6. The other Assertion which some of the Reformed hold viz. That all things necessary to Salvation are clear in Scripture to every understanding impartially reflected on and Reasons given why 't is thought to be rather popular and pleasing then solid and satisfactory Sect. 7. Whether the Rule of Faith affords infallible or but moral certitude of Christs Doctrin Whether we may not now in our days have as great certainty thereof as the Disciples of the Apostles had And whether the like certainty which they had be not enough for the Church of the present and future Ages Sect. 8. By what Means the knowledge of a Matter of Fact such as the preaching of the Gospel by Christ and His Apostles was may be perpetuated An examen of the force of the Romanists main Argument whereby they endeavour to shew that Scripture cannot be the Rule of Faith Whether the Scripture be not as intelligent in Points of Faith as Tradition or the Living voice of the Church is Sect. 9. What the Properties of the Rule of Faith be and whether they agree to Holy Scripture Sect. 10. An Enquiry Whether Christs Doctrine has been practically convey'd without intermission from the days of the Apostles unto ours And of what validity four grand Arguments urg'd against the indefectibility of Tradition are Sect. 11. What rational assurance we have That Scripture is not corrupted in Necessaries to Salvation The way to know what Things have been ever Orally taught Two Reasons given why Tradition though it be of an indefectible Nature should not be the Rule of Faith Whether a Fundamental Error can ever obtain a setled quiet possession in the visible Church An offer from Reason for the impossibility of the thing Errors
with that which others of them name confirming whilst both place the suppos'd infallibility in the Popes assent which assent those who call it defining think perhaps they make the Proposition more obviously denote that Prelats infallibility as exclusive of all the rest thereby SECT III. The second Opinion amongst the Romanists viz. That a General Council conciliary proceeding is infallible in Matters of Faith taken into consideration and it 's double meaning explain'd the truth of which in one of them only is here brought to the Test the certainty of it in it's other sense being left to be examin'd in other Sections THis Assertion of the Second sort of Romish Controvertists that A General Council conciliarly proceeding cannot erre in Points of Faith may be taken in a two-fold sense either as the words conciliarly proceeding include Tradition which the Traditionists say and then the meaning of it is That A General Council defining according to Tradition or the living voice of the Church cannot erre in which sense the consideration of it belongs to some following Sections Or els as they are intended only to denote the exclusion of all fraudulent and forcible ways us'd to procure the votes of the Prelats so as that the Definition of the Council being left to it's own freedom will be infallibly true although the Means preparative to it were not at all so Against That whatsoever was deliver'd to the primitive Christians by Christ and his Apostles as a Point of Faith hath been perpetually handed down from time to time without interruption till our days as such and it 's assign'd proof the indefectibility of Tradition I shall say nothing here but remit the discourse I intend upon them to another place and at present enquire Whether the present Church of Rome does indeed depend on this Maxim for the certainty of the purity of her Faith That Christs Doctrine was deliver'd to her as descending without interruption from Christ and his Apostles For if it appear upon trial made she doth not then however indefectible Tradition be it may notwithstanding fall out that new Articles of Faith may be introduc'd into the Church upon some other Ground not firm and safe such as the Traditionists will I know grant That the Definition of a General Council not founded on Oral Tradition but on this Presumption That the Bishops effectually proceeding to define are immediatly inspir'd from Heaven is And that the Roman Church does not rely on the mentioned Maxim for the certainty of the purity and uncorruptedness of her Faith I have somthing which seems considerable and of moment to alledge in proof It will not I presume be deny'd That Cardinal Bellarmin and the learned Romish Controvertists more generally taken notice of after him ever since the Reformation till Rushworths Dialogues came to light for all that they made it their business to resolve Faith according to the belief and practice of their Church did not conclude and averr Tradition to be the alone safe Means of conveying Christs Doctrine to the knowledge of succeeding Ages And if such great Lights among the Roman Clergy mistook the Rule of Faith how can we reasonably think that the inferiour Pastors and Laics in their time knew it aright And if they knew it not neither could they rely on it as such For although it were granted which some say that Bellarmin himself and all the learned Clerks of the Roman Church no less then the other Clergy and Lay-men did practically rely on Tradition in as much as they were Orally taught their Religion by the preceding Generation and that again by the next before it and so still backwards one Age of another ever since the very first beginning of Christianity yet unless they also knowingly did it when once they came to make enquiry upon what stedfast Ground the Christian Faith was to be embrac'd they would no longer rest upon the instruction they had when they first in their younger years believ'd if so be upon search made they conceiv'd as it seems the chiefest of them besides many more if not the generality did that the certainty of Faith was not sounded on Oral Tradition their first Instructor in it but on something els Yea I think I shall not mistake the truth if I say that it was not the private opinion of some great Doctors and their followers only but the sense of the Council of Trent it self also That Faith is not resolv'd into Tradition as it 's adequate Rule whilst in consulting the first Decree of the fourth Session of that Council I find two Passages which seem to make it out The former of them is this Sacrosancta Oecumenica Generalis Tridentina Synodus c. perspiciens hanc nempe Christianam veritatem Disciplinam contineri in Libris scriptis sine Scripto Traditionibus quae ex ipsius Christi ore ab Apostolis acceptae aut ab ipsis Apostolis Spiritu Sancto dictante quasi per manus traditae ad nos usque pervenerunt Orthodoxorum Patrum exempla secuta omnes Libros tam veteris quám novi Testamenti cùm utriusque Deus sit Author necnon Traditiones ipsas tum ad Fidem tum ad Mores pertinentes tanquam vel ore tenus a Christo vel à Spiritu Sancto dictatas continuâ successione in Ecclesia Catholica conservatas pari pietatis affectu ac reverentiâ suscipit ac veneratur The latter Passage closeth up the Decree thus Si quis Libros ipsos integros Scripturae scilicet cum omnibus suis partibus prout in Ecclesia Catholica legi consueverunt in veteri vulgata Latina Editione habentur pro Sacris Canonicis non susceperit Traditiones praedictas sciens prudens contempserit anathema sit Omnes itaque intelligant quo ordine via ipsa Synodus post jactum Fidei Fundamentum sit progressura quibus potissimùm Testimoniis ac Praesidiis in confirmandis Dogmatibus instaurandis in Ecclesia Moribus sit usura In both these Passages Scripture and Apostolical Traditions are plainly contradistinguish'd as equally relating some way or other to Christian Faith and Manners And although in the former place they seem to be principally oppos'd as the Written and unwritten Word of God yet not without this apparent intimation also that as the Books or written Words call'd Scripture leade to the sense or Doctrine contain'd in them so likewise the unwritten words wherein Apostolical Traditions are taught guide to the meaning couch'd in them so that as Scripture and Traditions taken in the former sense are held by the Council to be equally the Word of God so are they moreover in the latter sense held to be equally significative and expressive of the Doctrine of Salvation delivered by them But in the latter rehearsed place of the Decree Scripture and Traditions are chiefly to be understood of written and unwritten words directing to the knowledge of the Objects of Faith as appears
Articles of Catholick and Apostolick Faith by vertue of Oral Tradition communicating the same unto it what good cause can be shewn why Tradition should not be the Rule of Faith even without having the Doctrins it delivers confirm'd by parallel Texts of Holy Writ Answer since the Rule of Faith must doubtless be that into which it is ultimatly resolv'd as the best and highest Means of ascertaining Christs Doctrin to Mankind and that the same must contain in it no Error this Inference I think will be clear that in case Oral Tradition or the Living voice of the Church either be not the best and highest means whereby to ascertain Christs Doctrin to Mankind or that it may deliver or teach an Error under the notion of an Article of Faith it cannot be in justice esteem'd the Rule of Faith And that Oral Tradition or the Living voice of the Church is not the best and highest means whereby to ascertain Christs Doctrin to Mankind the following Paragraph I think will make good Where two Testimonies both averr and attest the same thing if the one be of Divine the other but of Humane Authority the Testimony that is Divine ought of Right to have the preeminence and the relyance for the verity of what is witnessed by them is to be ultimatly cast upon it Seeing then the Testimony of Scripture is Divine as being ex confesso the Word of God and Tradition but an Humane Witness forasmuch as it is said to be the Delivery of Christs Doctrine in the various expressions of Pastors Parents Tutors Masters of Families and Nurses 't is most reasonable that Faith should be finally resolved into Scripture and not into Tradition as it 's Rule Yea and albeit Tradition may peradventure in some things be thought more plain then Scripture as for example suppose in the Point of Christs Divinity these words of the Nicene Creed Deum de Deo Lumen de Lumine Deum verum de Deo vero genitum non factum consubstantialem Patri per quem omnia facta sunt yet that Scripture should be still esteem'd the Text and Tradition but the best and most certain Comment upon it I gather from hence That it cannot well be otherwise thought but that even the Disciples of the Apostles after the Books of the New Testament were publish'd and receiv'd among Christians would themselves confirm to their Auditors what they told them they had been Orally taught by the Apostles out of the written Word because the very sayings of Christ himself and his divinely inspir'd Apostles would in common prudence be thought to be of greater weight and authority with them then their own although beleiv'd to be esteem'd by the people as true and certain as any whatsoever not of more then Humane Authority Having found then I suppose one reason why Tradition ought not to be held the Rule of Faith I 'le make tryal if in another sense also it be not incapable of being justly so reputed for if the present Church of any one Age can teach us an Article of Faith what is not so but indeed an Error then is not Tradition the Rule of Faith Now to find out whether the Church in any one Age can do so or not this will be a sure way to try if discovery can be made That any Error has been ever taught by the Catholick Church or by any known and acknowledg'd Part of it as an Article of Faith for if that can be done the possibility of the thing is put out of doubt thereby To make a clear discourse on this subject 't will be expedient to consider That there be two sorts of Errors in Matters of Religion Fundamental and not Fundamental By Fundamental I mean such as either immediatly and directly or at least by necessary and apparent Consequence contradict some Articles of Catholick Faith by not-Fundamental I mean such as evidently do neither This Distinction premis'd and allow'd of since 't is clear as I take it by what has been said of the Motives and Means of perpetuating Christs Doctrin in the World that no Article of Catholick Faith can ever perish or cease to be beleiv'd 't will follow that no Fundamental Error can at any time get a setled and quiet possession in the Church but shall always after it is taken notice of find opposition by Orthodox Christians because they cannot chuse but see that the embracing of it would necessarily destroy the contrary Divine Truth firmly held by so many at least as rightly consider the matter to be necessary to Salvation Of the assured certainty of this we have a famous Instance in the Arian Heresie which though eagerly promoted by the Wit and industry of most cunning and restless Heretics and stiffly back'd and countenanc'd by the Authority of several great Prelats assisted with the might and power of Temporal Potentates and Princes yet was still oppos'd and when fraudulent and violent means had tyr'd and spent themselves the opposit Truth prevail'd and shew'd it self more glorious then before But as for Errors not-Fundamental or whose opposition to any Article of Faith is not seen because too remotely contradictory thereto to be easily discern'd if such once come to be receiv'd as pious Opinions and promoted by the Schoolmen I do not understand why they may not in long continuance of time be advanc'd to the repute of being esteem'd Articles of Faith For proof of the truth of which I 'le produce some few Instances in the Doctrin of the Church of Rome The first shall be this That the Council of Trent has desin'd Sess 7. Can. 9. That there is a Character or certain spiritual sign or mark imprinted in the souls of all that are Baptiz'd Confirm'd and Ordain'd which yet I find disprov'd by an eminently Learned Gentleman of the Romish Church if I understand the Council and Him aright in his Institut Sacr. Tom. 2. Lect. 4. Pag. 32. as was shewn before in Sect. 4. of this Treatise and so superfluously to be here again set down A second Instance is the Belief of freeing souls from Purgatory and bringing them thence to Heaven before the day of Judgement which Opinion the last mentioned Author Thomas Albius in his Book De medio animarum statu has prov'd to be erronious 'T is true indeed he saies That it is no Article of the Roman Faith and I find the Trent Council in disertis verbis to affirm only this Purgatorium esse animàsque ibi detentas fidelium suffragiis potissimùm verò acceptabili Altaris Sacrificio juvari Decret de Purgatorio Sess 25. But the Popes granting InIndulgences and Priviledg'd Altars Priests saying of Masses and the Peoples praying and giving Alms for the delivery of souls out of Purgatory should better an indifferent person would be apt to think expound and declare the Churches sense or intention of Pastors Parents Tutors Master of Families and Nurses of the word juvari then any privat Doctor whatsoever Yea and if
any one then in the Eastern Parte yet that every third Christian understood that Language is not at all to be thought on Secondly Nor was the Scripture presently Translated into every Tongue where there were those who imbrac'd Christianity Thirdly Neither could poor Mechanicks Labourers Servants and Slaves procure it when Translated before the ready way of Printing was Invented because 't was not formerly a little money that would buy both or even one of the Testaments Fourthly Neither yet if all Christians had had wherewith to buy would there have been till the Art of Printing was found Books enough for half or a quarter of them Fifthly Suppose we now that by means of the Press every one has or might have a Bible in their native Tongue How is it possible that the vulgar should know of themselves that it is the Word of God that it has been kept free from corruption in things of necessary Belief and Practice that it is faithfully Translated out of the Originals that considering what variety of Doctrins are in it and in how many places dispers'd they should be able and at leisure to cull out of it a Summary of Fundamentals in case the thing it self were attainable without other helps besides Scripture seeing millions of them are necessitated to spend their whole time almost to get a poor Livelihood for themselves and Families that they should be able to compare places of Scripture so effectually as rightly to compose seeming Contradictions in Points of Faith thereby when not without difficulty they are got to understand but ordinarily well even plain and common things Who so shall seriously reflect on these matters will doubtless think it strangely unbecoming Mans most gracious Maker and Redeemer to require at the hands of the poor ignorant people to pick out their Religion of themselves from Holy Scripture or to depend upon their own weak performances for finding out the true sence and interpretation of it For over and above what has been already shewn for the unreasonableness of the thing after this be first well weigh'd in the balance of sound Reason that the Multitude must of necessity trust others for the truth of the Translation of Scripture let an irrefragable Reason be given by any that can why they should not aswell and might as safely give credit to those for the sense of it who are in prudence to be entrusted by reason of their Knowledg and Honesty for recommending to them the sincerity of the Version since 't is to be presum'd they understand it to be a true translation no further then they know the sence of the words translated Notwithstanding the plain verity of what has here been said 't is not unknown how frequently and vehemently some popular men use to cry out to the people from the Pulpit Believe not us believe the Scripture as if the meanest of their Auditors were thought by them to be the proper Judges of the Scripture sense amongst the rest But though their words seem to import as much if we look to the bottom of the business we shall discover That even these Preachers must acknowledge they intend otherwise or els confess their design in doing it is unlawful For when they say Believe not us believe the Scripture they either intend the Texts they quote for a Proof of what they touch or they do not If they intend them for a Proof their meaning must be this believe us yet not for our own sakes but for the Scriptures that is believe us because we teach the very same Doctrine which the Scripture doth or believe the Scripture to the same intent and purpose or in the same sense we alledge it for to believe it in any other would not have the effect of a Proof with them But if they have no intention to use the Scriptures they quote to prove what they Preach let them inform us to what other good intent they do it for I cannot think of any To several bad ends 't is obvious enough to conceive how it may be done as out of covetousness or through the desire of applause or for promoting a faction to humour and gratifie the people they Preach unto But for none of these ends will they yield I am well assur'd they do it and therefore I see no way to avoid it but that the Quotations must be granted to be produc'd for Proofs and consequently that the persons using them have no real design by saying beleeve not us beleeve the Scripture that the truth of their Doctrine should stand or fall accordingly as their Auditors judge it consonant or disagreeing to the places of Holy Writ which they 're directed to for examination and tryal of the verity of what their Teachers deliver as they themselves often I beleeve apprehend but for Proof and confirmation indeed of the Doctrine taught according to the intendment of the Preacher Some perhaps would here be encourag'd to assert that this which I have last discours'd concerning Holy Writ viz. that the Multitude cannot without better help then their own make right use of Scripture as 't is the Rule of Faith makes for Oral Tradition which instructs every one from the Prince to the Peasant in all the Articles of Christian Faith To such I should answer That Tradition could no more be made use of as the Rule of Faith supposing it were so by the People without the assistance of some more skilful then themselves then Scripture can For first They must trust others that what they are instructed in by their immediat Teachers is the sense of the present Catholick Church Secondly They must have it from better Arguments then themselves can frame That the Doctrine of the present Church is the very same with the Doctrine of the Church in all foregoing Ages since Christ Thirdly They must beleeve others That Tradition is the alone Rule of Faith for the Multitude I may safely say is not so quick sighted as clearly to see that there 's no other way to come to a right knowledge of Christs Doctrine but by an Oral Delivery of it So that in fine I am much assur'd That the Rule of Faith was never intended by God for the Multitude to resolve immediatly of themselves the Christian Faith into and that therefore the Destinction of Ecclesia docens discens is good yea necessary to be practically maintain'd and upheld among Christians To the former of which I mean the Ecclesia docens consisting of Prelats and Pastors the Depositum or Rule of Faith is principally not solely because it is lawful for any to make good use of it that can entrusted for that in reason the Clergy is justly presum'd to be fittest both for Skill and Will to understand it aright and to employ it to it 's due End whilst they can want no Helps possible to be had for gaining the true sense of it and that it is the Main of their Employ for which they are called to