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that_o woman_n shall_v teach_v or_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n nor_o baptise_v nor_o offer_v origen_n hom_n 13._o in_o exod._n you_o think_v yourselves_o guilty_a and_o unworthy_a if_o any_o part_n of_o the_o consecrate_a host_n be_v lose_v through_o your_o negligence_n s._n hippolytus_n orat._n de_fw-fr antichr_n bring_v in_o christ_n speak_v thus_o come_v you_o bishop_n and_o priest_n who_o have_v daily_o offer_v my_o precious_a body_n and_o blood_n how_o clear_a be_v the_o follow_a father_n s._n epiphanius_n s._n chrysostome_n s._n athanasius_n s._n basil_n etc._n etc._n with_o s._n augustine_n for_o this_o as_o even_o in_o the_o three_o age_n s._n cyprian_n serm._n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la dom_n the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o holocaust_n to_o purge_v our_o sin_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la cyrill_n he_o call_v it_o a_o sacrifice_n seven_o time_n 4._o protestant_n deny_v the_o real_a presence_n and_o transubstantion_n but_o in_o the_o first_o age_n s._n ignatius_n in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la smyrnenses_n often_o cite_v by_o eusebius_n athanasius_n s._n jerome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o ancients_n speak_v of_o the_o saturnian_a heretic_n say_v they_o admit_v not_o of_o eucharist_n and_o oblation_n because_o they_o do_v not_o confess_v the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v our_o saviour_n flesh_n which_o suffer_v for_o our_o sin_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n i_o do_v not_o delight_v in_o any_o corruptible_a food_n nor_o in_o the_o pleasure_n of_o this_o life_n i_o desire_v the_o bread_n of_o god_n the_o heavenly_a bread_n which_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n s._n denis_n areop_n l._n de_fw-fr eccl._n hierarch_n c._n 3._o o_o most_o divine_a and_o holy_a sacrament_n vouchsafe_v merciful_o to_o open_v the_o veil_n of_o those_o signify_v sign_n wherein_o thou_o hide_v thyself_o and_o appear_v plain_o unto_o we_o in_o the_o second_o age_n s._n irenaeus_n l._n 4._o c._n 34._o dispute_v against_o the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n ask_v how_o it_o shall_v be_v manifest_v unto_o they_o that_o bread_n upon_o which_o thanks_o be_v give_v be_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o the_o chalice_n his_o blood_n if_o they_o say_v he_o be_v not_o the_o son_n of_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o world_n s._n cyprian_a serm_n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la dom_n the_o bread_n which_o our_o lord_n give_v to_o his_o disciple_n be_v change_v not_o in_o shape_n but_o in_o nature_n by_o the_o omnipotency_n of_o the_o word_n be_v make_v flesh_n in_o the_o three_o age_n origen_n we_o eat_v the_o bread_n offer_v by_o prayer_n make_v a_o certain_a holy_a body_n and_o again_o hom_n 5._o in_o div_o loca_fw-la evang._n when_o thou_o receive_v the_o holy_a food_n thou_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n than_o the_o lord_n enter_v under_o thy_o roof_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o same_o age_n tertullian_n l._n 4._o contra_fw-la martion_n c._n 40._o the_o bread_n take_v and_o distribute_v to_o his_o disciple_n he_o make_v his_o body_n what_o can_v be_v say_v more_o clear_o than_o all_o this_o either_o for_o the_o real_a presence_n or_o transubstantiation_n which_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o change_n of_o the_o bread_n in_o christ_n body_n here_o so_o plain_o assert_v add_v to_o this_o for_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n deny_v by_o protestant_n it_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v so_o give_v to_o infant_n by_o s._n denis_n l._n eccl._n hierach_n c._n ult_n to_o both_o infant_n and_o sick_a by_o s._n cyprian_n serm_n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la n._n 10._o and_o by_o tertullian_n l._n ad_fw-la vxorem_fw-la to_o have_v be_v carry_v to_o private_a house_n yea_o and_o over_o sea_n by_o eusebius_n l._n 5._o hest_n which_o can_v not_o be_v do_v but_o under_o one_o kind_n 5._o protestant_n deny_v purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a but_o in_o the_o first_o age_n s._n denis_n eccl._n hierarch_n part_n 3._o c._n 7._o say_v the_o venerable_a prelate_n approach_v power_v forth_o his_o holy_a prayer_n upon_o the_o dead_a by_o that_o prayer_n he_o do_v beseech_v the_o divine_a clemency_n to_o forgive_v all_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o dead_a commit_v trhough_o humane_a infirmity_n and_o to_o place_v he_o in_o light_n and_o in_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n in_o the_o same_o age_n s._n clement_n l._n 8._o const_n c._n 48._o have_v a_o long_a prayer_n accustom_v to_o be_v say_v for_o the_o dead_a again_o the_o same_o s._n clem._n ep._n 1._o de_fw-fr s._n petro_n tell_v we_o s._n peter_n teach_v they_o among_o other_o work_n of_o mercy_n to_o pray_v and_o give_v alm_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o in_o the_o liturgy_n of_o s._n james_n apostle_n we_o have_v prayer_n also_o for_o they_o tertullian_n l._n de_fw-la corona_n militis_fw-la number_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a among_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n