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A15422 Synopsis papismi, that is, A generall viewe of papistry wherein the whole mysterie of iniquitie, and summe of antichristian doctrine is set downe, which is maintained this day by the Synagogue of Rome, against the Church of Christ, together with an antithesis of the true Christian faith, and an antidotum or counterpoyson out of the Scriptures, against the whore of Babylons filthy cuppe of abominations: deuided into three bookes or centuries, that is, so many hundreds of popish heresies and errors. Collected by Andrew Willet Bachelor of Diuinity. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1592 (1592) STC 25696; ESTC S119956 618,512 654

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bulla_n leonis_fw-la 10._o adversus_fw-la lutherum_n fox_n p._n 1283._o col_fw-fr 1._o 1._o the_o apostle_n prescribe_v a_o law_n concern_v the_o abstain_v from_o blood_n thing_n strangle_v and_o offer_v to_o idol_n concern_v the_o which_o christ_n give_v they_o no_o precept_n but_o this_o law_n do_v bind_v the_o people_n in_o conscience_n for_o every_o where_o the_o apostle_n give_v straight_o charge_n for_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o decree_n bellarm._n answer_v first_o the_o apostle_n command_v no_o new_a thing_n but_o the_o same_o which_o they_o themselves_o be_v teach_v of_o christ_n that_o they_o shall_v take_v heed_n of_o offence_n the_o christian_n therefore_o be_v not_o bind_v in_o conscience_n any_o further_a to_o keep_v the_o decree_n concern_v such_o thing_n then_o for_o avoid_v of_o scandal_n and_o offence_n second_o for_o afterward_o the_o offence_n be_v take_v away_o the_o law_n also_o cease_v and_o saint_n paul_n give_v liberty_n notwithstanding_o this_o law_n to_o eat_v thing_n offer_v to_o idol_n if_o it_o may_v be_v do_v without_o offence_n ask_v no_o question_n say_v he_o for_o conscience_n sake_n 1._o cor._n 10.27_o ergo_fw-la their_o conscience_n be_v not_o hereby_o oblige_v and_o bind_v 3._o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o have_v some_o law_n beside_o the_o divine_a law_n for_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v too_o universal_a neither_o be_v sufficient_a to_o direct_v every_o particular_a action_n therefore_o other_o ecclesiastical_a law_n must_v be_v add_v but_o every_o good_a and_o necessary_a law_n have_v a_o coactive_a and_o constrain_a power_n and_o bind_v the_o conscience_n to_o obedience_n ergo_fw-la the_o constitution_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o counsel_n which_o be_v the_o only_a ecclesiastical_a law_n do_v bind_v the_o conscience_n bellarmin_n cap._n 16._o lib._n 4._o answer_v first_o the_o word_n of_o god_n contain_v all_o necessary_a rule_n to_o salvation_n wherefore_o all_o law_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n be_v but_o explanation_n and_o interpretation_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n set_v forth_o in_o scripture_n if_o they_o be_v godly_a law_n and_o so_o be_v not_o the_o law_n of_o man_n but_o of_o god_n and_o do_v bind_v the_o conscience_n to_o the_o observation_n thereof_o as_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n which_o command_v christian_n to_o resort_v to_o the_o congregation_n to_o hear_v god_n word_n and_o reverent_o to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n be_v the_o very_a ordinance_n and_o commandment_n of_o christ_n who_o enjoin_v his_o apostle_n to_o preach_v and_o baptize_v and_o his_o faithful_a people_n to_o hear_v and_o to_o be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o in_o conscience_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o the_o obedience_n hereof_o second_o there_o be_v other_o ecclesiastical_a law_n appoint_v for_o the_o public_a order_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v external_a rite_n and_o circumstance_n of_o person_n and_o place_n as_o the_o hour_n of_o prayer_n the_o form_n of_o the_o liturgy_n &_o public_a service_n the_o time_n fit_a for_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o such_o like_a these_o and_o such_o like_a constitution_n do_v not_o bind_v in_o conscience_n absolute_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o which_o be_v indifferent_a but_o in_o regard_n of_o that_o contempt_n and_o offence_n which_o may_v follow_v in_o the_o not_o keep_v of_o they_o contempt_n to_o our_o superior_n who_o we_o ought_v in_o all_o lawful_a thing_n to_o obey_v offence_n in_o grieve_v the_o conscience_n of_o our_o weak_a brethren_n so_o that_o even_o these_o constitution_n also_o which_o be_v make_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o be_v unto_o edification_n to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o for_o avoid_v of_o offence_n do_v necessary_o bind_v we_o in_o conscience_n not_o conscience_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o which_o be_v but_o external_a but_o conscience_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o christian_a magistrate_n and_o conscience_n in_o take_v heed_n of_o all_o just_a offence_n sic_fw-la caluin_n institut_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 10.11_o 3_o but_o we_o be_v not_o god_n be_v thank_v drive_v to_o any_o such_o straight_a that_o if_o there_o be_v need_n of_o any_o such_o ecclesiastical_a law_n we_o shall_v run_v for_o succour_n to_o the_o pope_n beggarly_a decretal_n and_o yet_o such_o canon_n as_o be_v in_o force_n among_o they_o agreeable_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n we_o do_v not_o refuse_v but_o if_o there_o be_v want_n and_o penury_n of_o good_a law_n every_o church_n have_v as_o full_a authority_n to_o make_v decree_n and_o ordinance_n for_o the_o peace_n and_o order_n and_o quiet_a government_n thereof_o not_o as_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n have_v over_o the_o universal_a church_n for_o that_o by_o right_n be_v none_o or_o if_o it_o be_v it_o be_v but_o a_o usurp_a power_n but_o as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v in_o his_o own_o bishopric_n and_o diocese_n the_o protestant_n what_o our_o sentence_n be_v of_o this_o matter_n it_o do_v partly_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o we_o have_v already_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o power_n over_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o therefore_o can_v make_v no_o law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n or_o otherwise_o for_o the_o same_o for_o it_o belong_v not_o to_o his_o charge_n second_o we_o say_v that_o neither_o he_o nor_o any_o ecclesiastical_a government_n beside_o can_v make_v law_n of_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n other_o than_o those_o which_o be_v in_o scripture_n contain_v three_o all_o ecclesiastical_a law_n make_v concern_v external_a rite_n and_o public_a order_n do_v not_o otherwise_o bind_v the_o conscience_n then_o in_o regard_n of_o our_o obedience_n due_a to_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o lawful_a thing_n and_o for_o avoid_v of_o scandal_n and_o offence_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o thing_n command_v such_o law_n do_v not_o bind_v caluin_n loc_fw-la praedicto_fw-la 1_o saint_n james_n say_v there_o be_v one_o lawegiver_n which_o be_v able_a to_o save_v and_o to_o destroy_v cap._n 4.12_o he_o therefore_o only_o make_v law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n that_o be_v able_a to_o save_v and_o to_o destroy_v but_o that_o can_v the_o pope_n do_v ergo_fw-la caluin_n argum_fw-la bellarmine_n answer_v that_o the_o law_n of_o man_n do_v bind_v under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n in_o as_o much_o as_o god_n be_v offend_v and_o displease_v with_o their_o disobedience_n and_o so_o judge_v they_o worthy_a of_o punishment_n cap._n 20._o all_o this_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o law_n of_o man_n be_v good_a law_n do_v bind_v in_o conscience_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o contempt_n and_o disobedience_n to_o high_a power_n but_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o thing_n command_v which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v indifferent_a the_o jesuite_n shall_v have_v say_v that_o god_n be_v offend_v not_o only_o for_o their_o disobedience_n but_o simple_o
shepherd_n bellarm_n and_o the_o apostle_n will_v all_o man_n to_o obey_v their_o bishop_n and_o overseer_n heb._n 13.17_o and_o to_o submit_v themselves_o unto_o they_o from_o which_o rule_n neither_o king_n nor_o emperor_n be_v exempt_v prelate_n must_v be_v obey_v ergo_fw-la not_o obey_v rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n first_o the_o obedience_n here_o require_v we_o acknowledge_v that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v yield_v by_o king_n &_o emperor_n to_o those_o that_o have_v the_o oversight_n of_o their_o soul_n for_o the_o prince_n be_v bind_v to_o receive_v and_o believe_v all_o true_a doctrine_n which_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o pastor_n and_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n and_o the_o pastor_n be_v bind_v under_o the_o like_a pain_n to_o obey_v the_o prince_n law_n make_v according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n second_o wherefore_o the_o spiritual_a obedience_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n teach_v by_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v no_o exemption_n of_o they_o from_o their_o civil_a obedience_n for_o every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n rom._n 13.1_o fulk_n annot_v 13._o heb._n sect_n 9_o the_o protestant_n that_o ecclesiastical_a person_n be_v subject_a to_o temporal_a governor_n and_o be_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o their_o law_n the_o scripture_n speak_v plain_o 1_o rom._n 13.1_o let_v every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n ergo_fw-la bishop_n yea_o the_o pope_n himself_o if_o he_o have_v a_o soul_n the_o like_a say_v s._n peter_n 1.2.13_o submit_v yourselves_o to_o all_o manner_n ordinance_n solomon_n remove_v abiathar_n from_o the_o priesthood_n and_o put_v in_o sadock_n paul_n appeal_v and_o submit_v himself_o too_o caesar._n again_o if_o priest_n offend_v and_o commit_v any_o grievous_a sin_n as_o of_o murder_n theft_n who_o shall_v punish_v they_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n only_o bear_v the_o sword_n they_o must_v either_o grant_v that_o priest_n be_v no_o evil_a doer_n which_o be_v to_o too_o gross_a or_o if_o they_o be_v that_o they_o be_v under_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n power_n for_o he_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n to_o take_v vengeance_n upon_o every_o evil_a doer_n rom._n 13.4_o in_o augustine_n time_n the_o controversy_n between_o the_o catholic_a and_o donatist_n bishop_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o emperor_n ait_fw-fr quidam_fw-la 162_o say_v he_o non_fw-la debuit_fw-la episcopus_fw-la proconsulari_fw-la iudicio_fw-la purgari_fw-la quasi_fw-la verò_fw-la ipse_fw-la sibi_fw-la hoc_fw-la comparaverit_fw-la ac_fw-la non_fw-la imperator_fw-la ita_fw-la quaeri_fw-la iusserat_fw-la ad_fw-la cvius_fw-la curam_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la rationem_fw-la deo_fw-la red_a liturus_fw-la est_fw-la res_fw-la illa_fw-la maximè_fw-la pertinebat_fw-la but_o say_v one_o a_o bishop_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v purge_v before_o the_o proconsul_n or_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o though_o say_v augustine_n the_o proconsul_n do_v of_o himself_o intermeddle_v in_o this_o matter_n and_o be_v not_o command_v rather_o of_o the_o emperor_n so_o to_o do_v unto_o who_o charge_n that_o matter_n principal_o appertain_v and_o whereof_o he_o shall_v make_v account_n unto_o god_n ergo_fw-la by_o his_o sentence_n the_o cause_n of_o the_o bishop_n principal_o be_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o emperor_n the_o second_o part_n whether_o the_o prince_n have_v power_n over_o ecclesiastical_a good_n the_o papist_n the_o good_n of_o the_o clergy_n both_o secular_a and_o ecclesiastical_a be_v and_o aught_o to_o error_n 99_o be_v exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n to_o prince_n yet_o they_o have_v not_o this_o liberty_n say_v they_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o by_o the_o grant_n of_o prince_n themselves_o rhemist_n annot_v rom._n 13._o sect_n 5._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la cap._n 28._o genes_n 47.22_o &_o 27._o the_o land_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n ergo_fw-la it_o seem_v that_o this_o custom_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n bellarm._n ans._n first_o the_o hebrew_n word_n signify_v rather_o precedent_n such_o as_o be_v the_o king_n officer_n not_o priest_n as_o tremellius_n show_v who_o be_v maintain_v by_o the_o king_n provision_n be_v officer_n of_o his_o household_n for_o genes_n 41.45_o joseph_n be_v say_v to_o marry_v the_o daughter_n of_o potyphar_n prince_n not_o priest_n of_o on._n the_o same_o word_n cohen_n be_v there_o use_v for_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o joseph_n will_v match_v himself_o with_o a_o idolatrous_a priest_n daughter_n second_o but_o be_v it_o grant_v this_o be_v but_o a_o politic_a constitution_n for_o that_o country_n other_o prince_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o pharaoh_n his_o law_n three_o they_o gain_v nothing_o by_o this_o but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o humane_a constitution_n the_o protestant_n that_o prince_n have_v authority_n to_o punish_v ecclesiastical_a person_n offend_v in_o their_o good_n either_o by_o displace_v they_o or_o by_o convert_n the_o church_n possession_n by_o they_o abuse_v to_o better_a use_n we_o have_v show_v before_o contr._n 5._o quest_n 6._o part_n 1._o and_o that_o their_o good_n ought_v to_o pay_v tribute_n subsidy_n tax_v unto_o the_o prince_n thus_o now_o it_o be_v prove_v 1_o our_o saviour_n christ_n pay_v poll_n money_n math._n 17.25_o rom._n 13._o every_o soul_n ought_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n and_o there_o vers_fw-la 5._o pay_v of_o tribute_n be_v make_v a_o part_n of_o subjection_n the_o argument_n therefore_o thus_o follow_v clergy_n man_n be_v subject_a to_o prince_n therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o pay_v tribute_n 2_o exit_fw-la concessis_fw-la we_o reason_v thus_o from_o their_o own_o confession_n that_o which_o prince_n give_v to_o the_o church_n upon_o good_a cause_n they_o may_v take_v away_o but_o this_o immunity_n not_o to_o pay_v tribute_n be_v first_o grant_v as_o they_o confess_v to_o the_o church_n by_o king_n and_o prince_n ergo_fw-la they_o have_v the_o same_o right_n have_v just_a occasion_n to_o take_v it_o from_o they_o again_o what_o augustine_n judgement_n be_v we_o have_v see_v in_o the_o place_n before_o allege_v the_o three_o part_n concern_v the_o prince_n authority_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a the_o papist_n error_n 100_o the_o prince_n they_o say_v have_v no_o authority_n to_o give_v voice_n deliberative_a or_o definitive_a in_o counsel_n concern_v matter_n of_o religion_n nor_o to_o make_v law_n ecclesiastical_a concern_v the_o same_o only_o they_o give_v they_o authority_n to_o execute_v the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n make_v by_o the_o church_n rhemist_n 1._o corinth_n 14.16_o bellarm._n the_o pontiff_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 7._o argum._n 1_o king_n and_o prince_n may_v in_o their_o own_o person_n execute_v if_o they_o will_v whatsoever_o their_o inferior_a officer_n do_v as_o to_o hear_v and_o determine_v cause_n as_o the_o judge_n and_o other_o magistrate_n do_v but_o the_o prince_n can_v execute_v any_o ecclesiastical_a function_n as_o to_o preach_v baptize_v ergo_fw-la he_o have_v no_o authority_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a for_o how_o can_v the_o prince_n impart_v that_o to_o other_o whereof_o he_o be_v himself_o incapable_a as_o to_o give_v bishop_n and_o pastor_n power_n to_o ordain_v to_o preach_v and_o such_o like_a bellarm._n rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n first_o the_o authority_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n do_v not_o give_v any_o thing_n to_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n which_o appertain_v to_o their_o office_n as_o to_o ordain_v preach_v baptize_v neither_o be_v the_o prince_n to_o deal_v in_o these_o office_n yet_o may_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n command_v they_o to_o execute_v their_o charge_n and_o duty_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n wherefore_o it_o follow_v not_o prince_n can_v execute_v the_o pastoral_a duty_n themselves_o ergo_fw-la they_o ought_v not_o to_o see_v they_o execute_v david_n solomon_n jehosophat_n ezechia_n command_v the_o priest_n to_o execute_v their_o office_n according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o they_o neither_o do_v they_o execute_v any_o thing_n proper_a to_o the_o priest_n office_n in_o their_o own_o person_n neither_o do_v any_o christian_a prince_n challenge_v any_o such_o right_n in_o ecclesiastical_a function_n wherefore_o it_o be_v a_o impudent_a slander_n of_o bellarmine_n which_o he_o give_v forth_o of_o our_o queen_n jam_fw-la re_fw-la ipsa_fw-la caluinistis_fw-la in_o anglia_fw-it mulier_fw-la quaedam_fw-la summus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la and_o now_o say_v he_o in_o england_n the_o caluinist_n have_v a_o certain_a woman_n for_o their_o chief_a bishop_n de_fw-fr notis_fw-la eccles_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 9_o 2_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o prince_n may_v as_o well_o execute_v ecclesiastical_a office_n as_o he_o may_v civil_a in_o his_o own_o person_n if_o he_o have_v authority_n over_o both_o no_o more_o than_o it_o follow_v that_o because_o ecclesiastical_a person_n do_v teach_v both_o civil_a magistrate_n
be_v adore_v and_o thus_o it_o be_v lawful_a profitable_a and_o expedient_a for_o the_o church_n to_o canonize_v saint_n bellarm._n cap._n 7._o argum._n 1._o the_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n be_v canonize_v for_o saint_n in_o the_o old_a law_n heb._n 11._o so_o act._n 7._o stephen_n &_o other_o be_v canonize_v therefore_o it_o be_v credible_a that_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v the_o same_o order_n still_o continue_v in_o his_o church_n bellarm._n cap._n 7._o ans._n first_o neither_o in_o the_o old_a nor_o the_o new_a law_n be_v any_o set_v up_o to_o be_v saint_n with_o intent_n to_o be_v worship_v call_v upon_o temple_n to_o be_v consecrate_v in_o their_o name_n but_o only_o the_o scripture_n give_v testimony_n of_o they_o as_o of_o holy_a and_o faithful_a man_n and_o so_o may_v we_o also_o honour_v the_o bless_a martyr_n who_o the_o cruel_a emperor_n of_o rome_n and_o since_o they_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n have_v send_v through_o fire_n and_o other_o torment_n to_o heaven_n second_o 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draw_v he_o through_o a_o needle_n it_o be_v not_o prove_v out_o of_o this_o place_n that_o god_n can_v or_o will_v draw_v the_o huge_a body_n of_o a_o camel_n through_o a_o needle_n remain_v still_o of_o that_o bigness_n no_o more_o than_o that_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o god_n to_o bring_v a_o proud_a rich_a arrogant_a man_n to_o heaven_n his_o affection_n not_o alter_v both_o these_o be_v impossible_a to_o god_n because_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o his_o will_n and_o ordinance_n the_o one_o be_v against_o the_o law_n of_o justice_n to_o bring_v a_o wicked_a man_n to_o heaven_n the_o other_o against_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n 2._o for_o the_o other_o three_o example_n it_o be_v not_o prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n pierce_v the_o door_n the_o grave_n stone_n or_o his_o mother_n womb_n although_o the_o door_n be_v find_v shut_v after_o christ_n entrance_n the_o grave_n cover_v and_o his_o mother_n remain_v a_o virgin_n still_o for_o all_o these_o passage_n may_v give_v place_n for_o a_o while_n to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o return_v again_o to_o their_o place_n as_o the_o red_a sea_n be_v divide_v till_o the_o israelite_n pass_v and_o afterward_o the_o water_n come_v together_o again_o and_o concern_v the_o last_o instance_n of_o the_o birth_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v certain_a out_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o christ_n open_v the_o womb_n of_o his_o mother_n in_o his_o birth_n luk._n 2.23_o hitherto_o therefore_o they_o have_v prove_v nothing_o the_o protestant_n our_o adversary_n do_v false_o charge_v we_o to_o say_v that_o god_n can_v do_v no_o more_o than_o he_o have_v do_v or_o will_v do_v rhemist_n math._n 26._o sect_n 11._o this_o we_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v almighty_a and_o yet_o can_v do_v nothing_o against_o his_o own_o will_n his_o word_n or_o glory_n as_o to_o dishonour_v his_o glorious_a body_n and_o to_o bring_v it_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n that_o it_o may_v be_v devour_v of_o cat_n dog_n rat_n mouse_n or_o which_o be_v worse_o to_o be_v eat_v of_o wicked_a man_n the_o member_n of_o the_o devil_n although_o the_o question_n be_v not_o so_o much_o between_o we_o what_o christ_n be_v able_a to_o do_v of_o his_o absolute_a power_n but_o what_o he_o will_v do_v according_a to_o his_o word_n fulk_n math._n 17._o sect_n 1._o argum._n 1._o it_o stand_v neither_o with_o the_o power_n or_o will_v of_o god_n to_o do_v contrary_a to_o his_o word_n for_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o god_n shall_v lie_v hebr._n 6.18_o and_o this_o thing_n not_o to_o lie_v be_v not_o a_o want_n of_o power_n but_o a_o sign_n of_o great_a power_n in_o god_n but_o it_o be_v plain_o declare_v in_o scripture_n that_o christ_n have_v a_o true_a natural_a body_n and_o be_v in_o all_o thing_n like_v unto_o we_o hebr._n 2.17_o therefore_o neither_o can_v his_o body_n be_v a_o true_a humane_a body_n as_o ou●s_n be_v be_v in_o many_o place_n at_o once_o neither_o can_v it_o choose_v but_o occupy_v that_o room_n and_o place_n where_o it_o be_v the_o angel_n say_v he_o be_v rise_v he_o be_v not_o here_o math._n 28.6_o but_o it_o have_v be_v no_o good_a argument_n to_o say_v he_o be_v rise_v and_o go_v to_o another_o place_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v not_o here_o if_o so_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v in_o many_o place_n at_o once_o the_o scripture_n than_o have_v define_v it_o that_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o one_o certain_a place_n wherefore_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n have_v a_o true_a natural_a body_n and_o yet_o retain_v not_o the_o natural_a property_n of_o a_o body_n be_v to_o speak_v contradictory_n that_o he_o have_v and_o have_v not_o a_o true_a natural_a body_n and_o this_o be_v to_o make_v god_n a_o
only_o faith_n but_o love_n or_o charity_n obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n bellarm._n ibid._n rhemist_n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la the_o protestant_n ans._n the_o argument_n be_v not_o from_o the_o cause_n to_o the_o effect_n but_o from_o the_o effect_n to_o the_o cause_n for_o christ_n do_v not_o reason_n thus_o she_o love_v much_o therefore_o many_o sin_n be_v forgive_v she_o but_o contrariwise_o many_o sin_n be_v forgive_v she_o therefore_o she_o love_v much_o as_o the_o next_o word_n declare_v to_o who_o little_o be_v remit_v he_o love_v little_a and_o our_o saviour_n say_v in_o plain_a word_n in_o the_o last_o verse_n that_o her_o faith_n have_v save_v she_o whereof_o her_o love_n be_v a_o effect_n argum._n that_o the_o contrition_n of_o the_o heart_n be_v no_o mean_n of_o our_o justification_n nor_o a_o merit_a cause_n or_o procure_v of_o remission_n of_o sin_n saint_n paul_n show_v rom._n 4.5_o 6._o to_o he_o that_o believe_v faith_n be_v count_v for_o righteousness_n and_o david_n declare_v the_o blessedness_n of_o that_o man_n to_o who_o god_n impute_v righteousness_n without_o work_n it_o be_v faith_n then_o only_o that_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n and_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v without_o any_o respect_n have_v to_o his_o work_n therefore_o neither_o contrition_n nor_o any_o other_o work_v inward_a or_o outward_a procure_v remission_n of_o sin_n but_o faith_n only_o be_v the_o mean_a so_o augustine_n say_v opera_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la iustificatum_fw-la non_fw-la praecedunt_fw-la iustificandum_fw-la work_n follow_v a_o man_n already_o justify_v they_o go_v not_o before_o to_o justification_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operib_n cap._n 14._o therefore_o the_o work_n of_o contrition_n be_v not_o available_a to_o justification_n the_o papist_n 5._o contrition_n they_o say_v be_v not_o necessary_a for_o venial_a or_o small_a offence_n neither_o error_n 11_o be_v a_o man_n bind_v thereunto_o so._n lib._n 4._o distinct_a 17._o articul_fw-la 3._o the_o protestant_n this_o assertion_n be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n for_o the_o prophet_n david_n pray_v not_o only_o to_o be_v keep_v from_o presumptuous_a sin_n psalm_n 19.13_o but_o even_o to_o be_v cleanse_v from_o his_o secret_a fault_n vers_fw-la 12._o augustine_n agree_v non_fw-la solum_fw-la propter_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la huius_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la propter_fw-la ipsum_fw-la puluerem_fw-la mundi_fw-la huius_fw-la qui_fw-la pedibus_fw-la adhaerescit_fw-la quotidianam_fw-la habere_fw-la debemus_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la not_o only_o for_o the_o ignorances_n of_o this_o life_n but_o even_o for_o that_o dross_n and_o dust_n of_o the_o world_n which_o hang_v upon_o our_o foot_n we_o ought_v daily_o to_o repent_v us._n he_o mean_v the_o lesser_a and_o small_a escape_n of_o our_o life_n the_o papist_n error_n 12_o 6._o there_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o contrition_n that_o proceed_v only_o from_o the_o fear_n of_o punishment_n when_o a_o man_n do_v leave_v sin_v not_o for_o any_o love_n or_o delight_n he_o have_v in_o god_n but_o only_o for_o fear_v of_o damnation_n even_o this_o contrition_n also_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a yet_o this_o servile_a fear_n be_v at_o length_n clean_o drive_v out_o by_o charity_n but_o there_o remain_v still_o in_o the_o godly_a a_o awe_n and_o fear_n of_o god_n and_o his_o judgement_n with_o mistrust_n and_o fear_v of_o hell_n and_o damnation_n as_o math._n 10._o fear_v he_o that_o can_v cast_v body_n and_o soul_n into_o hell_n rhemist_n john_n 4._o sect_n 6._o bellarm._n lib._n 2.17_o the_o protestant_n first_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o fear_n of_o punishment_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o beginning_n to_o make_v a_o way_n for_o true_a love_n to_o enter_v as_o the_o bristle_n or_o needle_n as_o augustine_n say_v make_v room_n for_o the_o thread_n to_o enter_v we_o also_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o continual_a fear_n and_o reverence_n of_o god_n in_o the_o godly_a such_o as_o child_n have_v of_o their_o parent_n but_o as_o for_o any_o mistrust_n or_o fear_v of_o hell_n and_o damnation_n after_o love_n be_v once_o enter_v and_o we_o make_v the_o child_n of_o god_n which_o breed_v terror_n and_o anxiety_n of_o conscience_n it_o be_v clean_o expel_v and_o thrust_v out_o of_o the_o door_n by_o love_n argum._n so_o say_v the_o apostle_n there_o be_v no_o fear_n in_o love_n but_o perfect_a love_n cast_v out_o fear_n and_o make_v we_o to_o have_v confidence_n in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n 1._o joh._n 4.17_o 18._o but_o he_o that_o fear_v damnation_n and_o be_v afraid_a of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n can_v have_v confidence_n in_o that_o day_n so_o augustine_n quid_fw-la dicimus_fw-la de_fw-la illo_fw-la qui_fw-la caepit_fw-la timere_fw-la diem_fw-la iudicij_fw-la si_fw-mi perfecta_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la esset_fw-la charitas_fw-la non_fw-la timeret_fw-la what_o say_v we_o to_o he_o that_o fear_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n if_o love_n be_v perfect_a in_o he_o he_o will_v not_o fear_v it_o the_o sixth_o question_n of_o auricular_a confession_n the_o second_o part_n of_o penance_n the_o papist_n error_n 13_o none_o can_v right_o seek_v for_o absolution_n at_o the_o priest_n hand_n unless_o they_o confess_v particular_o at_o the_o least_o all_o their_o mortal_a sin_n whether_o they_o be_v commit_v in_o mind_n heart_n will_n and_o cogitation_n only_o or_o in_o word_n and_o work_v with_o all_o the_o necessary_a circumstance_n and_o difference_n of_o the_o same_o rhemist_n joh._n 20._o sect_n 5._o and_o this_o sacramental_a confession_n as_o they_o call_v it_o must_v be_v make_v secret_o to_o the_o priest_n council_n trident._n sess_v 14._o can_n 6._o argum._n 1._o this_o wonderful_a power_n of_o remit_v and_o retain_v of_o sin_n which_o be_v give_v to_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n joh._n 20.22_o be_v give_v they_o in_o vain_a if_o no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o seek_v for_o absolution_n at_o their_o hand_n which_o can_v not_o be_v have_v of_o they_o without_o distinct_a utterance_n to_o they_o of_o our_o sin_n for_o they_o can_v rule_v the_o case_n of_o conscience_n unless_o they_o have_v exact_a knowledge_n and_o cogitation_n of_o their_o sin_n rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n 1._o god_n have_v not_o make_v his_o minister_n in_o christ_n stead_n judge_n of_o case_n of_o conscience_n as_o though_o there_o be_v in_o they_o a_o actual_a power_n to_o remit_v and_o absolve_v sin_n but_o their_o office_n be_v only_o to_o declare_v and_o set_v forth_o unto_o all_o penitent_a person_n the_o promise_n of_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n &_o the_o severity_n of_o god_n judgement_n against_o impenitent_a person_n which_o be_v especial_o perform_v in_o the_o preach_n and_o apply_v of_o the_o word_n either_o public_o or_o private_o as_o s._n paul_n call_v the_o gospel_n commit_v unto_o he_o the_o word_n of_o reconciliation_n 2._o cor._n 5.16_o 2._o a_o man_n therefore_o may_v by_o their_o ministry_n which_o be_v the_o preacher_n of_o reconciliation_n find_v remission_n of_o sin_n without_o a_o particular_a declaration_n thereof_o neither_o be_v it_o necessary_a for_o they_o to_o have_v so_o exact_a a_o knowledge_n of_o our_o sin_n see_v they_o be_v not_o absolute_a judge_n of_o the_o conscience_n but_o the_o minister_n and_o ambassador_n of_o reconciliation_n 2._o corinth_n 5.20_o 3._o and_o minister_n be_v not_o to_o stay_v while_o suit_n be_v make_v unto_o they_o for_o their_o help_n but_o they_o ought_v to_o exhort_v and_o desire_v man_n to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n by_o their_o ministry_n argum._n 2._o as_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n have_v only_a authority_n to_o discern_v the_o leprosy_n of_o the_o people_n and_o therefore_o christ_n send_v the_o leper_n to_o the_o priest_n luk._n 17.14_o so_o man_n must_v reveal_v the_o spiritual_a leprosy_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o priest_n rhemist_n ibid._n ans._n first_o the_o leprosy_n be_v not_o heal_v by_o the_o priest_n but_o only_o declare_v to_o be_v heal_v so_o sin_n be_v declare_v to_o be_v forgive_v by_o the_o priest_n not_o proper_o forgive_v second_o the_o priest_n receive_v not_o knowledge_n of_o all_o disease_n but_o of_o this_o that_o be_v contagious_a therefore_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v hereupon_o that_o all_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v confess_v to_o the_o priest_n but_o such_o as_o be_v notorious_a where_o public_a confession_n be_v by_o church_n discipline_n enjoin_v and_o such_o confession_n we_o deny_v not_o three_o the_o argument_n follow_v not_o from_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o law_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n for_o the_o priesthood_n of_o the_o law_n be_v translate_v whole_o unto_o christ_n who_o have_v all_o knowledge_n to_o discern_v and_o power_n to_o heal_v our_o spiritual_a disease_n the_o protestant_n confession_n of_o sin_n such_o as_o the_o scripture_n allow_v we_o do_v acknowledge_v as_o namely_o these_o four_o kind_n there_o be_v private_a confession_n either_o to_o god_n alone_o as_o daniel_n confess_v
be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v within_o the_o earth_n according_a to_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n as_o exod._n 15.8_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o sea_n that_o be_v within_o the_o sea_n so_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o the_o earth_n it_o lay_v hide_v as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o earth_n 3._o this_o exposition_n be_v against_o themselves_o for_o if_o christ_n go_v down_o to_o the_o very_a hart_n and_o midst_n of_o the_o earth_n which_o be_v the_o centre_n than_o he_o descend_v to_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a for_o neither_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la nor_o purgatory_n be_v in_o the_o centre_n or_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n by_o their_o opinion_n but_o they_o themselves_o hold_v the_o contrary_n for_o they_o say_v that_o christ_n by_o descend_v deliver_v soul_n out_o of_o the_o two_o uppermost_a hell_n limbus_n and_o purgatory_n but_o not_o out_o of_o the_o nethermost_a hell_n which_o be_v the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a rhemist_n luke_n 16._o sect_n 8._o also_o it_o shall_v follow_v of_o this_o their_o interpretation_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n be_v as_o long_o in_o hell_n as_o his_o body_n in_o the_o grave_n which_o be_v against_o the_o opinion_n of_o many_o papist_n argum._n 2._o luke_n 8.31_o the_o devil_n desire_v christ_n that_o he_o will_v not_o send_v they_o into_o the_o deep_a what_o be_v that_o else_o but_o the_o low_a region_n of_o the_o earth_n where_o hell_n be_v which_o saint_n paul_n call_v the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n bellarmine_n ans._n we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o god_n have_v prepare_v and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o place_n of_o unspeakable_a torment_n ordain_v for_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n and_o all_o damn_a soul_n but_o that_o this_o place_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o centre_n of_o the_o earth_n the_o place_n allege_v prove_v not_o for_o the_o word_n abyssus_n translate_v the_o deep_a be_v sometime_o take_v figurative_o in_o a_o metaphor_n as_o rom._n 11.33_o o_o the_o deepens_n of_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o much_o vary_v in_o signification_n from_o abyssus_fw-la so_o the_o place_n of_o their_o punishment_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o great_a depth_n that_o be_v a_o place_n of_o unsearchable_a and_o unspeakable_a misery_n and_o horror_n neither_o must_v this_o word_n abyssus_fw-la of_o necessity_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o earth_n for_o there_o be_v abyssi_fw-la maris_fw-la the_o depth_n of_o the_o sea_n exod._n 15.8_o as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o earth_n the_o low_a place_n which_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o eph._n 4._o may_v be_v either_o understand_v general_o of_o the_o whole_a earth_n which_o be_v pars_fw-la mundi_fw-la infima_fw-la the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o world_n or_o else_o of_o the_o great_a abase_v of_o christ_n from_o heaven_n to_o earth_n be_v god_n to_o become_v a_o servant_n as_o also_o the_o grave_n of_o christ_n be_v that_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n for_o the_o apostle_n say_v in_o the_o comparative_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o low_a not_o the_o low_a and_o so_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a translate_v inferiora_fw-la not_o infima_fw-la terrae_fw-la but_o hell_n be_v the_o low_a part_n the_o grave_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o low_a the_o protestant_n that_o there_o be_v a_o local_a place_n of_o torment_n prepare_v for_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n we_o doubt_v not_o be_v so_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n math._n 25.41_o a_o place_n of_o darkness_n 2._o pet._n 2.4_o far_o distant_a from_o the_o heavenly_a mansion_n of_o the_o bless_a luke_n 16.26_o neither_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v in_o the_o earth_n or_o wheresoever_o else_o it_o please_v god_n but_o wheresoever_o hell_n be_v there_o be_v but_o one_o that_o division_n of_o hell_n into_o three_o or_o four_o region_n we_o utter_o condemn_v as_o a_o mere_a devise_n of_o man_n without_o scripture_n and_o this_o we_o say_v that_o the_o place_n of_o hell_n cause_v not_o the_o torment_n but_o the_o wrath_n and_o curse_n of_o god_n for_o even_o out_o of_o hell_n god_n may_v make_v a_o man_n to_o feel_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n as_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o our_o saviour_n christ_n do_v for_o we_o and_o our_o redemption_n upon_o the_o cross_n argum._n 1._o it_o be_v possible_a to_o feel_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n in_o the_o soul_n although_o not_o ●n_v the_o proper_a and_o appoint_a place_n of_o hell_n as_o job_n complain_v the_o arrow_n of_o the_o almighty_a be_v in_o i_o the_o venom_n thereof_o do_v drink_v up_o my_o spirit_n and_o the_o terror_n of_o god_n fight_n against_o i_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v his_o grief_n be_v heavy_a than_o the_o sand_n of_o the_o sea_n job._n 6.4.14_o job_n feel_v even_o the_o hell_n of_o conscience_n in_o himself_o for_o the_o time_n yea_o our_o saviour_n bear_v the_o burden_n of_o his_o father_n wrath_n upon_o the_o cross_n as_o we_o have_v show_v before_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n that_o make_v hell_n argu._n 2._o hell_n be_v nothing_o else_o as_o the_o scripture_n define_v it_o but_o to_o be_v cast_v into_o utter_a darkness_n there_o shall_v be_v weep_a and_o gnash_n of_o tooth_n math._n 25.30.22.13_o the_o darkness_n cause_v weep_v &_o horrible_a gnash_n of_o tooth_n the_o unspeakable_a punishment_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n this_o darkness_n be_v not_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o light_n of_o the_o sun_n for_o neither_o shall_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n have_v that_o light_n because_o they_o need_v it_o not_o apoc._n 22.5_o and_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o place_n of_o darkness_n to_o the_o damn_a angel_n which_o have_v no_o use_n of_o the_o sun_n light_n they_o also_o be_v reserve_v in_o chain_n of_o darkness_n jude_n 6._o as_o they_o be_v no_o material_a chain_n so_o neither_o be_v it_o a_o outward_a darkness_n but_o the_o absence_n of_o god_n favour_n and_o the_o light_n of_o his_o countenance_n as_o the_o people_n be_v say_v to_o have_v sit_v in_o darkness_n before_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o jesus_n christ_n do_v shine_v unto_o they_o math._n 4.16_o but_o they_o much_o more_o shall_v be_v and_o be_v keep_v in_o darkness_n that_o be_v condemn_v to_o hell_n where_o they_o feel_v nothing_o but_o the_o horror_n of_o god_n wrath_n his_o eternal_a and_o endless_a curse_n with_o unspeakable_a torment_n now_o in_o soul_n and_o afterward_o both_o in_o body_n &_o soul_n without_o all_o comfort_n or_o hope_n of_o refresh_v utter_o exclude_v from_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n wherefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n but_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o absence_n of_o his_o spirit_n that_o cause_v such_o endless_a and_o unspeakable_a punishment_n argu._n 3_o as_o for_o your_o distinction_n of_o hell_n the_o brim_n whereof_o you_o say_v be_v limbus_n patrum_fw-la the_o middle_a part_n purgatory_n the_o low_a and_o nethermost_a hell_n itself_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a in_o augustine_n time_n it_o be_v not_o know_v for_o first_o that_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n be_v part_n of_o hell_n he_o utter_o deny_v apparet_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la membrum_fw-la inferorum_fw-la tantae_fw-la illius_fw-la foelicitatis_fw-la ●inum_fw-la that_o bosom_n of_o so_o great_a bliss_n can_v be_v no_o member_n or_o part_n of_o hell_n epist._n 99_o again_o purgatory_n he_o utter_o refuse_v acknowledge_v but_o two_o place_n heaven_n for_o the_o faithful_a hell_n for_o the_o damn_a and_o unbeliever_n tertium_fw-la locum_fw-la penitus_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la imo_fw-la nec_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o scripture_n sanctis_fw-la invenimus_fw-la a_o three_o place_n we_o be_v utter_o ignorant_a of_o yea_o we_o find_v in_o holy_a scripture_n that_o it_o be_v not_o august_n hypognost_n the_o nineteenth_o controversy_n of_o matter_n which_o be_v in_o question_n concern_v the_o divine_a nature_n of_o christ._n this_o controversy_n contain_v three_o question_n first_o whether_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o second_o whether_o he_o be_v mediator_n as_o god_n or_o man_n or_o as_o both_o three_o whether_o he_o have_v by_o his_o desert_n purchase_v any_o thing_n for_o himself_o the_o first_o part_n whether_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o the_o papist_n error_n 103_o they_o deny_v that_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o and_o affirm_v that_o he_o have_v not_o only_o his_o person_n but_o his_o substance_n of_o his_o father_n whereupon_o they_o be_v bold_a to_o charge_n caluine_n with_o blasphemy_n for_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n of_o himself_o as_o well_o as_o the_o father_n rhemist_n joh._n 1._o sect_n 3._o argum._n the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n to_o wit_n the_o son_n be_v with_o