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A71096 The verity of Christian faith written by Hierome Savanorola [sic] of Ferrara.; Triumphus crucis Liber 2. English Savonarola, Girolamo, 1452-1498. 1651 (1651) Wing S781; ESTC R6206 184,563 686

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