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A85149	The Scriptures vindication against the Scotish contradictors. By one John Stalham, and as he saith, preacher of the Gospel at Edenborough in Scotland. And the other tiled [sic], A serious review of some principles of the Quakers; wherein error is discovered, and truth defended; by P.E. and written with a pen at Edenborough, printed in the year 1655, and a written name, as if it were the printer called Peter English, but no printed name; and thus they shuffle, but laid open to their shame, and truth in this short answer is defended and cleared, and their errour is discovered, and they ensnared. Who both have manifested their contradictions both to the Scriptures, and their own writings, and so have not the people which they call Quakers. / Published by a servant of the Lord Jesus, in Yorkeshire in England, known to the world by the name of Richard Farneworth.	R. F. (Richard Farnworth), d. 1666.	1655 (1655)	Wing F503; Thomason E854_9; ESTC R202120	34,303	40

but cannot with all that thou hast scraped together prove that it is the word which is eternal life and so the word that was in the beginning with God and was God John 1.1 Thou accusest them for saying the saints ground of acting is not the outward Letter but the Spirit which gave forth the letter and saith here they set the word at distance from the spirit and sets figurative glosses upon the Scriptures Here thou art blinded and knows not the Saints ground and art accusing them falsly that witnesse to it and sayes they set the word at distance from the spirit The word and spirit cannot be set at difference nor distance except God could be devided and that cannot be for God is the word John 1.1 and God is that spirit 2 Cor 3.17 Therefore the word and the spirit are inseperable but the Letter is not God nor the letter is not the spirit therefore not that word which liveth and abideth for ever 1 Pet. 1.23 by which word the World was framed Heb. 11.3 and made Heb. 1.2 In which word is the life and the Light of men which the Letter doth declare of but is not the life and Light of men neither were all things made by the letter that were made but by the word they were John 1.1 2 3 c. This is plain Scripture without figurative glosse the glosses are thy own that with thy logick and magick art would make the Scriptures God and Christ but cannot and would make them the ground of the Saints actings when they are not but the Lord God and his spirit is for the Lord God and his spirit sent me saith the servant of the Lord Isa 48. and the Lord teacheth his that he so sends to profit v. 16 17. and the manifestation of the spirit is given to profit withall 1 Cor. 12.7 and saith God I will poure out of my spirit and your sons and daughters shall prophesie and such may speak of the things of God Thy meanings I deny and the fancy is thy own and the sure word of Prophesie we witnesse to and do not to it say no therefore in that thou hast further uttered thy lyes and manifested thy deceitfull spirit as in page 7. Thou sayes they say there is no Scripture for the Trinity contrary to John 5.7 which expresly saith There are three that beare witnesse in Heaven the Father the Word and the Spirit and these three are all one here is Trinity thou sayes here thou hast perverted the Scripture saying here is Trinity when it expresseth no such word in that nor any other Scripture as Trinity but the Father Son and Spirit which are one that we witnesse and as Christ hath said At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you Joh. 14.20 The Father Son and holy Ghost are one but it doth not speak of distinct persons three therefore thou art yet to prove a Trinity The Holy Ghost is no person but dwelleth in persons or bodies of Saints and he that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son as saith the Scripture in the 2 Epistle of John 9 Concerning the Light and Christ the way to the Father That Christ is the way to the Father is set down in Edward Burroughs Book to Vnderbarrow p. 4. and that the Scriptures witness and do not contradict John 14.6 but thou hast wrested Edward Burroughs words and therefore thou art a lier there is not such a word as purchased in that page and there lyeth the weight of thy matter but that Christ is the true Light that enlightneth every man that cometh into the World the Scriptures witnesse John 1.9 Therefore if thou say the contray the Scriptures thou therein contradicttest and not he take notice of that and withall that Christ is the Light of the World and a saving Light to all that obey him as saith the Scriptures and such as follow him the true Light are by him led out of darknesse into the light of life as he hath said John 8.12 Heb 5.8 9 and that word magnifie the Light thou puts in but if we do and as Mary did we magnifie the Lord 1 John 1.5 and art thou offended at that therein thou contradicts the Scripture where it saith My soule doth magnifie the Lord Luke 1.26 Luke 2.29 30 31 32. and thou also contradicts thy selfe and lyes against Christ the true Light calling him naturall and common and lyes of such as witnesse Christ and the Light of his spirit and according to the declaration of the Scriptures And where thou art offended at George Fox for saying the light of Christ is life it is but to manifest thy envy against the truth and thy contradictions to the Scriptures for the Scripture saith Christ is the Light John 1.9 and he is life even the way the truth and the life John 14. and such as follow him the true Light are led out of darknesse errour and deceit into the Light of Life John 8.12 And againe thou accusest George Fox for saying the light is the word but it is but to manifest thy further contradictions to the Scriptures for the Scripture sayes God is the Light John 1.5 and God is the Word John 1.1 c. Therefore in that thou hast manifested thy ignorance of the Scriptures and knows not the Light and the word for as God is the Light and the Word so also is Christ John 8.12 Rev. 19.13 and the Father and Son are one and such as abide in the doctrine of Christ have the Light and the Word of God abiding in them 1 John 2.12 13 14. and they may speak from it that have fellowship with it And thou sayes they would send you to read the Scriptures in the creatures quoting the Book of parables That Book shal witnesse for the truth against thee and thy generation and also let the wise hearted take notice that he that is in Christ is a new creature 2 Cor. 5.16 17. and that they are Epistles written in one anothers hearts seen and read in one another that are such creatures 2 Cor. 3. And there again thou hast shewed thy ignorance of those Epistles and lyed of the truth with thy deceitfull spirit by twisting and winding about but thou may well lye of us that lyes of the Apostle Paul and wrests not our words onely but his also for where thou speaks his words where he sayes It pleased God by the foolishnesse of Preaching and as thou sayes a Text a Doctrine a Reason an Use out of the Word to save them that beleive when there is not any such words of his there as Text Doctrine Reason Use to save them that beleive and here thou hast lyed of him and thou wouldst make the Letter a Saviour for thou calls that the Word and so thou wouldst have a salvation without Christ except thou make the letter of the Scripture Christ and there againe

saying he asserts it and the assertion is thine and not the Lords therefore thou art a lyar and false accuser of the Lord for he saith in Matthew 11.27 that no man knoweth the Son but the Father neither knoweth any man the Father save the Sonne and he to whomsoever the Son not the Scripture but the Son will reveal him here Revelation is the surer rule of knowing God witnessed also Luke 10.22 And visions are a way of God making known himselfe by as was witnessed after Moses and the Prophets and thou contradicts the Scriptures for the Lord spoke to Ananias his messenger in a vision and gave him commission to go with his message Acts 9.10 11. and that was a more sure knowlege to him then the words of Moses and the Prophets and a rule that stood firmer to him then words of other men And Paul he saw in a vision the man named Ananias come unto him ver 12. and that was more certaine then the words of others as Moses and the Prophets And Peter saw in a vision thing cleared to him which was not cleared by the writings of Moses and the Prophets Acts 10.15 16 17. and while Peter thought on the vision the spirit spoke unto him and gave him commission to go to the Gentiles ver 19 20 c. but so did not the Scriptures then the Scriptures are not a more sure or standing rule then visions and revelations by the spirit of truth are as thou sayes therefore thou art a lyar and false accuser therein for Paul knew Christ by revelation and received the Gospel by revelation as he hath certified to the brethren Ga. 1.11 12. and when Christ was revealed within him he went to preach him Gal. 1.15 16. and that was a sure rule unto him and more sure then the Scriptures for he knew much of the writings of Moses and the Prophets and letter of the Scriptures whilest he were a persecutor but then he knew not Christ revealed in him which after he did and went up to Jerusalem fourteen years after by revelation Gal. 2. and not by the Scriptures therefore the Scriptures are not so sure a rule as visions and revelations by the spirit of truth are and the Apostle knew how sure revelatitions by the spirit of truth were so he exhorted others to wait for the grace that was to be brought to them at the revelatition of Jesus Christ 1 Pet. 1.13 and the deep things of God are revealed not by the letter but by the spirit 1 Cor. 2.10 Therefore Revelations by the spirit of truth are more sure then the Letter for the righteousnesse of God is revealed from faith unto faith as faith the Scripture Rom. 1. through the Gospel and power of God unto salvation ver 16 17. Thou sayes that one saith the Scriptures are other mens words contrary to 1 Tim. 3.16 the Scripture is given by inspiration And then by a peece of logick thou wouldst raise a fals accusation against Francis Howgill and makes a false conclusion to wrest the Scriptures to serve thy own turne but cannot as for Francis Howgill saying the Scriptures are other mens words thou sets down truth defended page 6. Let the wise hearted read that Book and it clears him from thy slander which by thy logick thou wouldst cast upon him because he sayes the Scriptures are other mens words that spoke them freely and not for set wages or hundreds a year c. And further I answer Holy men of God spoke as they were moved so saith the Scripture 2 Pet. 1. and it doth not contradict the 1 Tim. 3.16 where it sayes the Scriptures are given by inspiration of God then the Scripture was inspired and that was by the spirit and spirituall men spoke forth those words Therefore they were words spoken by the men of God and so words from the spirit of truth spoken by the holy men of God other men that were holy and spoke freely and not by you that are sinfull and pleads for it and Preaches for hire the words of others as the false Prophets did therefore the Lord is against you hireling Priests in Scotland as he was against such in your nature spoken of in Scripture Read those Scriptures to be witnesse against all those Scottish Priests that Preach for hire and seeks for the fleece c. and makes a prey upon the people and seeks for their gaine from their quarter Jerem. 5.30 31. Ezek. 34. Micah 3.11 Isa 56.10 11.2 Pet. 2. Jude 11. That the Scriptures are the words of other men and not yours Read the words of the Preacher the sonne of David King in Israel Eccl. 1. Read the words also of King Lemuel and he was a man read the Prophecy that his mother taught him and she was a woman Prov. 31. The song of songs which is Solomens and he was a man Cant. 1. There is the words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah Jer. 1.1 To whom the word of the Lord came in the days of Josiah King of Judah in the 18 year of his Reigne but a Printed Bible did not come unto him neither did he nor any Prophet or Apostle that thou canst prove ever stand with a Printed Bible in his hand and say hear the word of the Lord Then the word of the Lord was declared and spoken without Printed Bibles and before Printing was invented But if Printing had not been invented what would you have Preached by that knows not the word of life which was before writing or Printing was And where thou sayes they say you have nothing to try mens Doctrine and spirit by but the letter and that your tryer is a chapter or a verse of the Scriptures no more you Scotish Preists have for thou sayes the letter is spirit or the spirit is in the letter and given by it By this thou hast manifested thy Scottish tryer and as for that saying to the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to it it is because there is no light in them but we speak according to it and therefore there is Light in us For God who commanded the Light to shine out of darknesse hath shined in our hearts c. 2. Cor. 4.6 7. And where thou accusest James Nayler for saying the Law of the new Covenant is written in the heart it is but to manifest thy ignorance of it and that thou art offended at James for witnessing what the Scriptures do witnes and that the Law of the new Covenant is written in the heart Jer. 31.31 c. Heb. 8 10 11. And where thou sayes for any to call the written word which is the letter of the Scripture carnall is blasphemy Here againe thou hast shewed that thou regardest not what thou sayes and art ignorant of what the Scripture it selfe faith concerning the same which speaketh of a carnall commandement but that is all one with thy other that sayes the spirit is in the letter and the letter is the word

and spirituall songs we are not against but owne and Davids prayers prophecies But your Poetry we deny and teaching people to sing lyes in hypocrisie saying they are not puft in minde when they are puft in minde and saying they have no scornfull eye when they have and much more of that nature Be ashamed lyar and give over lying Concerning Elders Ministers Maintenance Immediate calling and Immediate teaching c. Ordaining of Elders thou sayes was not by man Quoting the Discovery of the man of sinne by James Nayler Pag 38. Let the wise-hearted read that booke and it will witnesse cleare him and the truth declared in it but this I say The holy Ghost made Overseers and so Elders in the Church and that doth not contradict the Scripture but agree therewith Act. 20.28 and the holy Ghost is not such men as you are and he said Seperate mee Barnabas Saul for the worke whereunto I have appoynted them and they were sent out by the holy Ghost Act. 13. And he was not taught the Gospel which he preached of man but of God Gal 1. and so taught immediately and went after Christ was revealed in him immediately to preach the Gospel And thou sayes They say that God sends forth Immediately contrary to Gal 1. and saith there Paul speakes of a sending of man c but that Chapter may be a sufficient witnesse against thee prove thee to be a lyar of them and of that booke of the warning to Vnderbarrow by Edw Burr from which thou sayes they pretend to an Infallible Judgement to a calling not by man but Immediate as the Prophets and Apostles had whom God sends say they he sends Immediately and thou sayes that is contrary to Gal 1. here let the Scripture be a witnesse against thee that he that was Immediately called sent doth there witnesse the same and as for pretences we doe not pretend to be Immediately called and sent but we witnesse that we are and so witnesse with him that thou accusest and all thy Mediate calls sendings will not prove thee to be as Paul Timothy was that had the gift within him and the testimony by the holy Ghost as they had And for Rich Farneworth in that Booke called Light risen out of darknesse P 16. saying The Apostle had a free spirit and was chargeable to no man but preached freely he witnesseth the same and said also that he Coveted no mans silver nor gold nor apparell but preached the Gospel freely his hands ministred to his necessities That is truth and will stand as a witnesse against all proud Covetous selfe-seeking hireling Priests in Scotland elsewhere and at the Truth which witnesses against your deceit thou art offended And where thou sayes wee pretend to be Immediately taught wee doe not pretend so to be as I said before but we witnesse that we are so taught according to the promise of the Lord And thou that art not taught of him shews that thou speakes a vision of thy owne heart not from the Mouth of the Lord and for the true Prophets studying the word that is thy Imagination and contrary to Scripture for no prophecy of the Scripture came in old time by the will of man then not studied but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost and the Scripture is of no private Interpretation but thou that denies immediate teachings and saith the spirit is in the letter given by it thou may well accuse us falsely that so lyes against God his Spirit to manifest to all the children of Light that thou art ignorant of him and never was called nor sent by him but ran as the false Prophets did and so doth not profit the people at all Jere 23 Chapter Concerning Questions And as for Questions The Novices shall stand for your scorners and deceivers who are puft up in Pride and Conceits And where thou sayes They deny or say Questions are of the Devill such Questions as are of the Devill we deny But we owne Questions in their place and therefore thou hast cast that out as a slaunder but it is turned backe upon thee againe receive it into thy old bottle from whence it came To that of thine concerning Civill honour c. Civillity and honour wee owne and knows to whom honour is due to whom it is not for if I honour a proud man for his pride I dishonour God in so doing for pride is one of the abominations and if I honour a covetous man and an oppressor for his covetousnesse and oppression I should offend God in so doing or if I honour the Serpent and his seed But all men that are joyned to the Lord and walke in union with him and his seed I honour love and this I speake in sincerity and yet besides all this I can love my enemies But to follow foolish idle fancies to worship men with cap and knee and flatteries as the Serpents feed doe and which thou pleads for we doe that deny against it testifie how can yee beleive that seeks honour one of another seeks not the honour that cometh of God onely Joh 5.44 and what the Scriptures doe allow we doe know without thy ranking together but where doth the Scripture say put off your hatts and flatter with your tongues as proud flesh and deceit and such as thou dost or where doth it say respect the rich and disrespect the poore Are you not partiall and of them that have mens persons in admiration because of advantage have respect to persons for selfe-ends and so are Infidells and out of the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ which is not with such respect of persons for selfe-ends and carnall considerations Concerning Oaths And where thou sayes They take up the words of Christ Math 5.34 Sweare not at all as they doe other Scriptures against his meaning as if they did absolutely exhibit all oaths before a Magistrate whereas thou sayes he forbids oaths onely by creatures heaven and earth a mans head c The same meaning thou sayes hath James Thou sayes Christ doth not forbid all oaths but by creatures onely here thou art a lyar of Christ and his words beares testimony against thee for he doth not forbid swearing by creatures onely but he forbids swearing by all things els whatsoever for he saith Sweare not at all neither by heaven for it is Gods Throne nor by earth for it is his footstoole and he that sweares not by heaven must not sweare by what is contained in it he that sweares not by earth must not sweare by what is contained in it but Christ forbids swearing by heaven and earth and so by things contained in them and likewise the Apostle James sayes Sweare not at all and if a man must not sweare at all then he must not sweare by a booke or any other thing And though thou plead against the doctrine

busie thy minde to run over the same things to shew forth thy folly and all that knows God they know that there is no other way nor Light to come to the Father by and to salvation but by Jesus Christ and if thou canst produce another way besides him and another Light pretended by thee to lead to salvation le ts know thy shallownes in it who hath set thy self to invent and follows inventions and conceits of thy braine but I see by thy Eight that thou as well as John Stalham would have a Letter Light a Letter word and so a Letter Saviour and calls Christ reason as he calls him naturall and common but for all the Scriptures you have ranked together not one of them saith that Christ the true Light is a naturall and common Light as John Stalham sayes who gives the Letter the preheminence and not Christ and so contradicts the Scriptures But thou hast manifested thy Rantisme and both of you you are found to be enemies to the Spirit and lyars of the Scriptures also And after thou hast winded about to cover thy selfe in the latter end of thy eight thou hast left thy selfe bare when all the Scriptures thou hast gathered together and thy reason will not nor cannot prove the Scriptures to be eternall life then not that word which endureth for ever nor the word by which the worlds were made nor the Spirit power of life nor Christ Jesus upon which the Prophets and Apostles were builded but thou sayes sayes falsly that the Scriptures which thou calls the Word is called the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles setting downe Eph 2.20 Now that very Scripture witnesseth against thee confutes thee for it calls Christ the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles and the chiefe corner stone in whom all the building fitly framed groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord not in the Letter but in the Lord in whom they was builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit and not through the Letter but through the Spirit Eph 2.20 21 22. And say they through him through Christ not the Scripture but through Christ They both had an accesse not by the Letter as thou affirmes but by the Spirit Eph 2 18. How hast thou uttered thy folly and lyed of the Spirit that called Christ the foundation of the Prophets and Apostle and thou says the Scriptures are and in that thou hast lyed of the Scriptures also for the words that are left upon record witnesses against thee and both thou and John Stalham have shewed your ignorance of Christ the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles your foundation is the words which witnesse against you and all lyars thou hast manifested the same that the Letter is your ground for thou saith it is the ground of your faith P 12. and so your faith is not upon Christ which is the Saints ground for they witnesse Jesus Christ to be the Author and finisher of their faith Heb 12.2 But the Scripture is your ground of faith thou says and so no Scripture no faith no faith no salvation and let all the wise in heart see if thou would not here have a letter Saviour but it is good that fooles utter their folly that others may learne to be wise And where thou art offended at thou and thee words of truth and the Scripture Language there thou crosseth the Scripture contradicts them for thou canst not shew one plain scripture in all the Bible that says you to one single person all thy twisting in the 9th is but to plead for deceit and 〈…〉 and Civill honour wee are not to learne that of one that is out of the counsell of Christ as thou art and knowes not the eternall Word which thou and John Stalham have shewed your selves Ignorant of and to be without the Spirit of Christ to guide you and such are not his And as for things that stands in the Counsell of Christ and agrees with his Word wee are subject unto and owne true and just Government and the authority But your lyes flattery and deceit and scraped up stuffe wee doe deny and against you and your deceitfull Spirits dee wee declare and testifie And as for that Booke which is without a printed Name that hath P E at it this shall be as a witnesse against it with the following words also as a conclusion against your delusion There is a Paper from the same spirit of errour and deceit comed out of Scotland without a name the Author being either convicted in his Conscience that hee hath belyed the Truth or els some shame to owne that for truth which hee hath published or some such like thing but though his name be hid his heart is uncovered to the single eyed and if Peter English be his name his spirit is weighed and tryed with the light that manifests his subtilty flattery deceit secret ennity and serpentine pollicy and hee and thou John Stalham are both in one mystery of Iniquity and because hee hath in effect or substance the same things scraped up that thou hast This which I have written shall be as a witnesse against you both and the Light in your Consciences as the booke of Concience is opened will remember you in the bed of torment and be a swift witnesse against you and be your Condemenation that hare it and set your selves to worke wickednesse and that Light which convinceth you of the evill of your wayes will let you see your selves as Conscience booke is opened to be the vilest and of the same spirit of wickednesse though under a refined subtilty that the vilest of men are and that Light which yon now hate and scorne will remember you of what against it and the Lord you have acted and done and the thoughts and intents of your hearts will be seene and discovered by it and you and all that hate it will by Christ the Light of the World be judged and rewarded according to the deeds done in your bodyes and in the day of the Lords fierce wrath you will know the Judge of hearts and that you cannot hide your selves from him all your covers will be too narrow in the day of wrath when you are cast into a bed of Torment remembered you will be now you are warned though with deceit your hearts will be filled and with subtilty against the Truth you be armed It is hard for you to kicke against p ickes But for the simple ones sake have I written this that they may be aware of your subtilty least they be deceived by you and partake of the plagues with you Written by a servant of the Lord knowne to the World by the name of Richard Farneworth From Balbie in Yorkeshire the 22th of the 4th Month. 55. 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