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A44844 A reply to a book set forth by one of the blind guides of England who is a priest at Barwick Hall in Lancashire, who writes his name R. Sherlock, Batcheler of Divinity, but he is proved to be a diviner and deceiver of the people which book is in answer to some queres set forth to him by them whom he calls Quakers ... / Richard Hubberthorne. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3231; ESTC R6754 26,134 33

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that God scorns the scornful and hath them in dirisiin Pr. For any man to pretend immediate calling from God without the Ministry of man is a new Gospel distinct from Christ and his Apostles and such can be no other then the dictates of seducing spirits and doctrine of Devils page 91 Rep. Here I take all the children of light to record to prove and try thy spirit and Gospel to be of man and whe●her thy Ministry and Gospel which thou preaches which is of man be of God for Paul said that Gospel which he preached was not of man and here again thou art contrary to the Apostle and thy spirit is tryed to be a seducing spirit and thy doctrine to be of the Devil who denies immediate revelation Pr. For thou sayest that which is immediately from God and without the Ministry of man is the doctrine of the Devil and of the seducing spirits Rep. 〈…〉 Paul said the Gospel that he preached received it not of man but by the revelation of Jesus Christ and here thou art contrary to the Apostle and thy self in the state thou speaks of And Paul an Apostle not of man nor by man but by God the Father Thou impudent and enemy of God and blasphemer wilt thou say his doctrine was of the Devil who denyed man as Gal. 1.1 who said Paul an Apostle not of man nor by man Pr. Therefore there is no need of any such qualifications for the best of us dare not stand to such sublime and eminent gifts of the spirit or to any immediate and extraordinary spiritual gifts p. 93.94 Rep. Here thou preachest up that which is not qualified for we doe believe you that you dare not stand to such eminent gifts of the spirit for we have tryed you and knows your spirits how can you have the same gifts which denies the son of God and immediate miraculous revelation and sayest there is no need of any such qualifications now therefore doth all your Teachers shew forth your railing and slanders but these things we wave for God will give you you lyars your portion who hath not the same knowledge and understanding that the Apostles had and here thou hast shamed thy mother that is adulterated from the Apostles life Pr. Our gifts are from the Spirit of God though studied for with these means that are outward and moral Rep. Here I charge thee to be a Lyar in the presence of God the gift of God is a free gift it is not studyed for nor it is not gotten by Moral and if it were studied for and found in outward means then it were not a free gift and here thou hast made it manifest that thou knowst not the gift of God for it is not him that wills nor him that runs but God that shews mercy so thou blasphemer for shame blush Pr. No man can be wise without the Spirit of wisdom nor knowing without the Spirit of knowledge so no man can pray as he ought without the Spirit of prayer page 71. Rep. In thy answer to the first quaere thou sayest you do not attain the same knowledge and understanding of the Gospel as the Apostles did then if thou have not the same knowledge and understanding it is all deceit For in thy own words thou sayest you cannot pray without the Spirit and knowledge a●d understanding and thou sayest you do not attain the same knowledge and understanding the Apostles had then thou hast not the same Spirit of love to pray withal and thou sayst you cannot pray without the Spirit yet thou goes and tells people of a Gospel and hath not the same knowledge and understanding the Apostles had therefore thy knowledge is bruitish Jer. 10.14 Psal. 92.6 Psal. 49.8 Pr. That we may according to the Catholick faith worship one God in Trinity Rep. For these things which thou tells the people of there is no Scripture as Catholick faith and Trinity and of three persons Pr. The second kind of the holy Spirits impressions on humane souls page 78. Rep. There is no Scripture which speaks of humane souls for the soul thou knows not who art a murtherer with thy Deity stuff who would dit up the way from God but praises be to the living God who hath given his sons and daughters eyes to see thee and all your Deity stuff which you imitate who are whoredomed from God but the Saints of the most high God doth sing over it and you hallalujah to God who witnesses their souls redeemed And there is abundance of stuff in that book which thou calls the discourse of the Spirit which is not worth mentioning and abundance of lies and slanders but them we pass as knowing the Author of lies from whence they come is for destruction And in page 95. thou speaks of Timothy studying for his gift Did he study for his gift or for the proving of it and dividing of the word aright but he did not study for it for the gift of God is a free gift And in another place thou speaks of the blessing of God being upon your studies but I say the curse of God is upon your studies who hath not the same knowledge and understanding that the Apostles had and so preaches another Gospel· Pr. And most blasphemously to profess and boast of an equality with God page 66. Rep. Thy boasting is excluded without in thy generation And thou art excluded from the life and mind of the Apostle who said Let the same mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God thought it no robbery to be equal with God 2 Phil. 5.6 And this thou calls blasphemy and so thou hast shewed what spirit thou art of contrary to the Apostle Pr. And for our new Sect of Enthusiasts had they the Spirit of God as they pretend abiding in them and speaking in them Rep. All pretences and sects is denyed where the spirit of God dwells though with thy generation such was ever called so And that is thy own who hath made a discourse of the Spirit and here thou art clearly from them that the Spirit of God spoke in and did abide in them which Spirit of God did ascend into their hearts which Spirit God hath given to every one to profit withal and the Spirit of the Father speaketh in you saith Christ Math. 10.20 take no thought and in many plates thou art speaking of a study and blessing a study here thou art contrary to Christ who saith take no thought and art of the Devil And here I charge thee to be one of them that Jeremy speaks of who speaks a vain divination of thine own heart Pr. As here Angels are Spirits and the souls of men are Spirits but God is not a Spirit as they are Spirits pag. 57. Rep. This is confusion for Christ saith God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and there thou art raced out to be without the doctrine
they take texts to get money with them and to lye a quarter of a year or half a year in a text Christ came to fulfil the scripture and the Apostle shewed how Christ fulfilled the scripture and came to fulfil that which the prophets spoke The Scribes and Pharisees were learned men and they could not open the scriptures Peter an unlearned man he opened the scriptures Pr. And thou speakest of standing up in a pulpet of wood R●p In the time of the Law when they read it there was a pulpet of wood to a particular people to whom the Law was given but Christ said Go preach the gospel to every creature And Christ cryed woe against them that had the chief●st place in the Assemblies And here thou art one of them that would be under the Law and would have a pulpet of wood and pleads for thy learning that the scribes and Pharisees were in which is to no purpose who saith the ke●nel of the Nut is in the shell and that comparison thou bringest to make people believe that the life is in the scriptures and so the poor people is groping in the letter to finde life there when the life was in them that gave it forth Pr. Thou speakest of flying to God by prayer Rep. Yet thou denyest revelation from heaven which the saints was to wait for the revelation of Jesus from heaven and this makes all you blinde guides to stumble because you have not the life which gave forth the scriptures which now is made manifest to the children of God Que. 3. Shew me by the scriptures who ever was made a Minister of Jesus Christ that was called of men Master In thy answer to this Querie thou bringest the Prophets and Priests under the Law called Fathers to oppose Christs doctrine Thou wouldest compare Oxford and Cambridge to such as the Prophets and Apostles yet thou denyest immediate revelation from heaven And here thou hast cleared thy self and Oxford and Cambridge from the life of the Prophets for they had immediate revelation and so thou bringest many names as Pastors and Shepherds and Ministers and Apostles and Evangelists to oppose Christs doctrine who saith Be not you called of men Master So let all see if they be not under the delusion who saith Master is a civil honour and so opposeth Christs doctrine Here thou hast shewed thou dost not believe for how can you believe that seek honour one of another and shewest that thou lovest it as the Scribes and Pharisees did would not part with it and art in thy pride and vain glory as the Scribes and Pharisees were who saith that is a civil honor and respect which Christ cryed woe against And here thou hast brought thy self all thy company under the woe and Oxford and Cambridge in the state which Christ pronounced woe against and thou art judged with the same life that give forth the scriptures Que. 4. Shew me by the scriptures where ever the Ministers of Christ took Tithes of the people or Augmentations In thy answer thou sayest The Priests under the Law received Tithes There was a time that they received Tithes and they might not neglect them as denying their Tithes to the first Priesthood There was a time after Christ when he was sacrificed up that he was preached the unchangeable Priesthood Heb. 7. then the priesthood which received tithes was denyed therfore the woe is come upon thee and all thy generation which receive tithes according to the changeable Priesthood Here thou hast shewed thy self without judgment the love of God the woe is come upon thee all thy generation which receive Tithes and hold up the changeable priesthood and so denyes Christ come in the flesh They ●hat preached the gospel which lived on the gospel denyed the changeable Priesthood which received Tithe● but for shame you Ministers of Oxford and Cambridge stop your mouths for they must be stopt do not you sue men at the Law and imprison men for Tithes and here you shew you do not preach the gospel for it will not maintain you for them that preached the gospel lived on the gospel there thou thief art taken who hath gotten the Apostles words who art for judgement Que. 5. Shew me by the scriptures and what scripture have you which speaks of the word Sacrament which you tell the people of and deceives the simple Pr. And in thy answer to this Querie thou art confused First thou sayest there is no scripture for the word Sacrament and yet thou sayest Christ commands it and yet thou sayest there is not such a word in scripture Rep. Here thou which adds to it hast brought thy self under the plagues and wo And here let all who are in the light see if thou art not a deceiver who deceives thy soul I charge thee again that thou knowest not Christ for thou denyest immediate revelation so thou knowest not his commands nor doth not obey them for none knows the Son but to whom he is revealed and here I charge thee to be a deceiver and a deluder of the soul from the Lord This is in reply to the answer of the fifth Querie Que. 6. Shew me what scripture you have which speaks that the Apostles sprinkled infants Thou bringest the scriptures as Christ saith Suffer little chilren to come unto me and forbid them not for of such is the kingdom of God and this thou bringest to justifie sprinkling infants for circumcision outwardly was a type of circumcision inwardly So thou hast not a word in the scripture to maintain it but thou ramblest up and down and perverts many scriptures in which there is not such a word for it And here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a liar for Christ never commanded sprinkling infants neither is it any ordinance of Christ neither is there any example among the holy men of God that ever it was practised and the plagues of God is added to thee Let all people see if there be any word for sprinkling infants and let the scriptures which thou bringest judge thee Luke 18.15 Jer. 15.6 Luk. 1.66 80. Acts 10.47 Here I charge thee with all these Scriptures to be a liar that all these scriptures shal judg thee which thou hast brought for sprinkling of Infants let the reader of thy booke examine the Scriptures and find the a liar and all thy dirty stuffe which thou hast gaithered from them is to be troden under foot with the children of the light who wittnesse Baptisme and circumsition and new birth borne againe and all who are here do see thee to be blind deafe and a foole and there thou maiest read thy selfe let all people see thee here who art without the life of the Srripture who deniest immediate revelation from Heaven which the Apostles wittnessed and the Prophets for without God thou art eternally I witnesse it Que. 7. Shew me what Scripture you have to stand praying
the spirit of love is thy generation tried for when the servants of the Lord have been moved to come into your Synagogues some hast beene stockt and wounded and imprisoned and hailed out of your synagogues And is this the fruits of your spirit Que. Whether they be not seducers that draw people from the annointing which is in them and tell them they must be taught of a man whereas the anoynting teacheth them they need no man teach them but as the annointing teacheth them and the promise is to him that doth abide in it eternally Pr. Many false prophets are gone forth Rep. Here thou hast proved thy self to be a false prophet who denies immediate revelation for whom the Lord sent forth he spoke to them immediately which thou deniest and there thou art one of the false prophets which thou speakest of and knowes nothing of the annointing who deceives the simple and ignorant the world may wonder after such but who are in the light and receive any thing immediate will see thee in the dark to be a deceiver for none in thy generation can witness that you need no man teach you but the annointing for who doth are come out from your teaching and you both And as touching Sects them we deny as thou speakest in thy answer to the fifteenth querie therefore do we see thee with that which is no Sect to be colouring and deluding people telling them thy error is truth who quotes and misapplies the Scripture to maintain thy falshood Pr. The flesh is quickened with the spirit of life to bring forth some kind of fleshly fruits 1 King 8.46 Ioh● 14.4 Prov. 20.9 1 Ioh. 1.8 10. Eccles. 7.22 Rep. Here I charge thee to be a lier and a blasphemer in the presence of the living God let all people read these scriptures and see if there be any such thing in them and whether thou hast not misapplied these scriptures when the spirit saith it crucifieth the deeds of the flesh and walking in the spirit the lusts of the flesh is not fulfilled and here I charge thee to be a lier and of the Devill who was a lier from the beginning and in his generation thou art Qu. 17. Whether they do not bewitch the people who withdraw them from the spirit within to observe the ordinances of the world and tradition● of men without as the Galatians were bewitched Gal. 3.1 Pr. I must tell you that there is not only a holy and good spirit within and that in too few but there 's also an evil and seducing spirit within and that in too many even the spirit that doth bewitch men and draw them aside from the doctrines and commands of the spirit of truth and to strive by all means to draw the people off from giving heed to seducing spirits it is not to observe the ordinances of the world and traditions of men as you pervert the text but to obey the command of Gods true spirit who foretelling of false prophets and false spirits often in the word commands exhorts and admonishes to beware of such not to give heed to such and not to believe every spirit but to trie them Rep. Here in this answer thy spirit is tried which I have given to all people to read with a single eye that all may see what confusion here is in it First thou sayest that the seducing spirit drawes from the seducing spirit and in the seducing spirit thou art and from the spirit of life with the spirit of life thou art judged to be out of the doctrine of Christ nor is not guided by the holy spirit Que. 18. Whether they be not seducers which tell people these are the ordinances of God which God never commanded as sprinkling infants telling people of a sacrament which there is no scripture for and draw them from the spirit within to follow your imaginations and inventions Pr. But for sprinkling infants I have already given you the grounds of it out of scripture Rep. Here again I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar there is not such a word in the scripture to bear it out nor a word of a sacrament which there is no scripture for let all read the scripture throughout and see if they can find such a word in the scripture so let all people judge thee to be a liar and a s●ducer and in the devils invention which calls that an ordinance of God which is invention and imagination Pr. We are not blind-folded to follow the dictates of the spirit within Rep. Here J charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be in the flesh and to follow the flesh for who are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God and thou that dost not follow the dictates of the spirit thou dost not follow the commands of God and what hast thou to do to talk of clearing it by the scripture when there is no scripture for it and when the scripture witnesses against the works of the flesh which thy spirit stirs up Qu● Whether you have the same spirit which was in Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the scripture seeing you act contrary to the scrip●ures and follow your own inventions and tradition● and so erre from them Pr. Our ministeriall actions are agreeable to the scripture Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lyar for in thy answer to the former Quere thou sayest you do not follow the dictates of the spirit within and art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no scripture for and so walk contrary to the scripture and to them that were led by the spirit which gave them forth Que. 2● Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years afterwards Pr. Christ himself wa● not capable of faith and repentance Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lier and a slanderer for he was capable of faith and repentance and the baptisme which the Apostles baptized withall what hast thou to do with it who art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no example for in the scriptures nor in all the Apostles practises Therefore silence flesh for thou knowest nothing of the wisdome of God which the Apostle speaks of but art in the state of Simon Magus who art buying and selling the letter worse then he for he would have bought the spirit which the Apostles denied so thou art denied with the same spirit but the saints baptisme we owne and the beleevers and the promises which is to the seed thou hast cleared thy selfe from who saith Christ was not capable of faith how could he be above it and not capable of it and the life that I live is by faith of the Son of God saith the Apostle which thou hast cleared thy selfe from Que. 21. Whether ever Christ and his Apostles received 100. or 200. pounds a yeare for preaching the Gospel Pr. Many of the Apostles converts
it was at Samaria who art in the pride of heart And as thou saiest the Devill hath sown his crop and r●apt his harvest and there thou art one of his servants sowing his seed and among the delusions as thou calls them fo● that is in thy Generation which comes one of thy owne bottle which now showes out what is within issues forth this is thy own condition who seduces the people the fire is kindling and the tares are burning which makes you wicked ones to cry out and so all impostures and blasphemies are in thy generation and you are ignorantly worshipping and your grosse idolatry which thou speakest of is your owne and thou art a murderer and understandest not what thou speakest of them and God thou knowest not who deniest imm●diate revelation from heaven but onely what thou knowest thou knowest naturally as a bruit beast which Iude speaks of and a great deal of stuffe thou hast in this Introduction which is not worth mentioning If the Reader do but read with a single eye he may see all thy confused stuffe which is not worth naming and a great deale of stuffe tho● hast written in discourse of the Spirit and the Holy Ghost which thou knowest not what thou speakest and of the Trinity which there is no Scripture for A Reply to an Epistle that thou wrotest to him whom thou callest Sir Robert Bindlosse THe Queries being sent to his house from Rich. Hubberthorne being his desire that they should be made publike and we do praise the LORD that deceipt is brought to light And thou sayest perhaps some satisfaction might be given to those seduced wavering soules amongst you truly I do believe they will and see your folly that under his name whom thou callest Sir Rob. Bindlosse under his name and patronage they may appear as a covert to veil● their imperfections But they will not vaile your imperfections Therefore R. B. to three I say be wise and feare the Lord and run not on in the broad way with such a one who doth confesse in his answer to the first querie that he doth not attain the same knowledge and understanding of the Gospell as the Apostles attained therefore thou R. Sh●rlock thy knowledge is bruitish and thy understanding sottish as the Scripture saith for none knowes the Apostles condition and knowledge but with the same understanding and in this thou deniest it and thou art in another knowledge and understanding and art in another doctrine and the true Gospel thou dost not know and thou art to be held accursed as the scripture saith Gal. 1. and so here thou hast given satisfaction to many that stood in doubt though to all the children of light thou wast known all things shal work together for good to them that love God Rom. 8. therfore R. B. take heed what thou lets forth under thy name and fathers for if thou see a thief and consent with him thou art guilty And R. Sherlock the queries that were sent to thee thou callest them scrupulous and the Letter which was sent to thee as a Libell why doest thou slander the innocent and simplicity but of thy generation we look for no other whose mouth is full of slanders Thou slanderer in thy Ep●st●e to the Lady thou slanderest privily under a colour who flatters her where thou art telling her of love and stirs her up to envy as in pag. 46. and incensing her and would stir her up against them wh●m th●u callest Quake●s so thou mightst as well have incensed her against Moses who was a judge over all Israel and quaked and David who was a King quaked so all that are vertuous wil own us who denieth opinions for them we deny and there thou art who livest in opinions and as thou speakest of some to strike at the root of many infections and errors which is overspread amongst you the Lord Iesus Christ hath raised up a light in his children that they are striking at your root and laying open the deceits and bringing forth his own work to his own praise and thou sayest all men do worship God and Christ with one heart and one mouth and after one manner is not only decryed but also dismist our Congregations And since the pale of Ecclesiasticall Discipline is pulled down by whose coercive lawes all men were kept within the limit of the true faith Here I charge thee to be a lyar was the true faith maintained by an outward Law and the Church and the worship of God Thou Traytor have they pluckt down the true Faith and the wo●sh●p of God or your old Ceremonies Thou seducer how art thou tormented by that which hath pluckt down the traditions Tremble for the hand and sword of the Lord is against thee as it was against them thou dissembler and envious one the Law was not made for the Church which is the pillar and ground of truth which worships God in the spirit but for such envious persons as thou art who hast cleared thy Church and worship here from the tr●e Church and worship of God to the view of all honest hearts and thou art tormented because the freedome i● given for the libertie of tender consciences to worship God his owne way even in spirit and in truth as in Joh. 4.23.24 And thou saiest since under the name and priveledge of ●iberty of conscience licentiousnesse of opinion hath got footi●g and this thou seemes to Father upon the Magistrats Wee which are in the light of Christ Jesus which doth excercise our consciences towards God and man all opinions and licentiousn●sse we deny Therefore thy mouth must be stopt Osl●nderer which sowet● dissention for since the Lord hath opened the Magistrates understanding with the light of Christ in them the same light doth give freedome to the light in others consciences which worketh into tendernesse of co●science and teacheth to exercise a good conscience towards God and man and such Magistrates do not make a law over the consciences of me● which thou seducer and bruitish fellow wouldest have a l●w up●n but the law is against such as thou art and so thou h●st shewed thy selfe to be in the franticke state and Heresie which th●u ●alks on and many such speeches as thou hast in thy Epistle to Sir R●● Bindl●ss as thou callest him and whereas thou speakest of your Church and hope your hope will perish and your Church and all who are in the light will be ashamed of your Church And thou art he who art of the Devil who dost promote lies ●nd untruths which is of thy Fathe● the Devill Joh. 8. ●4 But God is coming with his mighty power to chaine up thee thy Father the Devill the old Dragon who is the Father of lies and thou art one of his servants who blindeth the understandings of the people which are in the unbeleife and seeks to poison their affections with vanities and lying slanders and in thy conclusion thou wouldest not have him to
perish with the blind and giddy but if he follow such as thou art he doth follow both and in the ditch both will perish together And thou speaks to him of walking in the paths of the just and righteous and such thou privily slanders and their way hateth thou who walketh in the steps of the wicked and with those that forget God and thou must be cut down with the sword of the almighty God to that in thy Conscience I speak when thou art in the terror remember me for that in thy conscience condemn thee and witness me And friend to the light in thy conscience I speak under whose name this book goes there is thy Teacher if thou love it which is the light of Christ if thou love it it will teach thee as thou goes up and down and shew thee the way of the just for it is just it will condemn thee if thou hate And when the book of conscience is opened thou shalt witnesse what I speak that its truth to thy soul Pr. And whereas thou sayst you do neither pretend to any such sublime and eminent gifts neither do you nor ought you to depend upon any such immediate revelation but do use such ordinary means and helps which God in his merciful providence hath in all ages afforded his people viz. by study and industry in the Schools of the Prophets Schools thou sayest they had at Bethel 2 King 2 3 5. and Elisha's Colledge was so full that they enlarged it 2 Kings 6 1. 1 Sam. 14.20 and upon the hill of God 2 Sam. 10.5.10 Rep. Here let all these Scriptures witnesse against thee that thou art no true Prophet nor Minister of Christ which witnessed the end of the Prophets and were all taught of God which thou denies that denieth immediate revelation from heaven And here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar and false Prophet and that thou art guided by the father of lyes Where thou tells of Elisha's Colledge and saith that it was so full that it was enlarged and brings in that place of Scripture to colour over thy lyes 2 Kings 6.1 Let that Scripture be a witnesse against thee that thou art a lyar and a perverter of the Scriptures thou full of all subtilties blush for shame thou lyar is there any mention of any Colledge there or is there any mention of the schools of the Prophets where the word of God was studied in those places of Scripture beforementioned as thou sayest let them witness thee All the Prophets where taught of God and there was no studying for what they spoke at Naioth see if they did not receive the Spirit of prophecy and spoke by immediate revelation which thou denies and knows not their maner of teaching and learning 1 Sam. 19.20 to the end of the Chap. and the prophecy came not in the old time by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost and the Scripture is of no private interpretation 2 Pet. 1.20 21. Here art thou proved a lyar and a perverter of the Scripture wresting it to thy own destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 and the plagues and wrath is due to thee for so doing Rev. 22 Now call not truth railing thou dissembler and enemy of all righteousness the Scripture turns edge against thee and witnesses against thy deceits and filthiness whereby thou seeks to strangle the truth but thou art found out to be among the Dogs Sorcerers and Lyars spoken of in Scripture and art shut out of the kingdom of God art no Minister of Christ Rev. 22.15 18 19. Thou enemy of God how darest thou say that the Prophets studied the word when no prophecy came by the will of man but by the will of God and no man knoweth the father but the son neither knoweth any man the son but the father and he to whom he is revealed Matth 11.27 And here thou deniest both the Father and the Son and the Prophets and Apostles that denieth immediate revelation for they all bear witnesse against thee and such as thou art for the Apostle said Hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ And all the true Prophets witness that which thou denies And here I have proved thee a lyar a false Prophet and a deceiver perverting the Scriptures and they bear witness with me And thou full of all guile and deceit the word of the Lord shall rise up in judgement against thee and such as thou art Something in reply to thy discourse of the Spirit as thou calls it FRiend the Spirit of the living God thou hast not for thou denies immediate revelation from heaven who art discoursing of the Spirit and here thou art made manifest but to be in the pretence of the Spirit and knows nothing that is revealed with the spirit For thou that denies immediate revelation from heaven denies the spirit of the living God The Apostle said Eye hath not seen ear hath not heard neither hath it entred into the heart of man the things that God hath prepared for them that love him but God hath revealed them to us by his spirit 1 Cor. 2.9 10. And here thou that hast denyed immediate revelation from heaven hast denied the Spirit of God and manifested thy self to be in the natu●al state therefore I command thee and charge thee in the presence of the living God to be silent and to give over deceiving of the people 2. Thou that denies immediate revelation from heaven thou denies the grace that was to be brought unto the Saints whose mindes was to be girded up which grace was to be brought unto them at the revelation of Jesus Christ and this thou hast denied again as all people may see 1 Pet. 1.13 and here thou hast denyed Jesus Christ and this grace who denies immediate revelation and art in the fashion of the world and a blasphemer 3. Thou that hast denied immediate revelation from heaven hast denied the Spirit to pray with all and so all thy prayers is hypocrisie 4. Thou that hast denied immediate revellation from heaven hast denied the son of God For none knows the father but ths son and to whom the son reveals him Mat. 11.27 5. And thou that hast denied immediate and miraculous revelation from heaven hast not denied the son of God only but the father also And those that hast not the son of God hath not life Pr. The power is originally from God as the fountain but conveyed through the ministry of man as the conduit p. 90. Rep. Paul an Apostle not of man nor by man but by the will of God and here thou art proved to be a seducer and thy ministry contrary to his here thy spirit is tryed And thou slanders them who hears the voyce of God and art scorning them and in a deriding way calls it a deceitful eccho but we know