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obseruat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la questio_fw-la autem_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la &_o nos_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la sit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la ergo_fw-la à _fw-la capite_fw-la sumendum_fw-la exordium_n cur_n schisma_fw-la feceritis_fw-la and_o in_o another_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d proinde_fw-la quamvis_fw-la huius_fw-la rei_fw-la certè_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n canonicis_fw-la non_fw-la proferatur_fw-la exemplum_fw-la earundem_fw-la tamen_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la re_fw-mi a_o nobis_fw-la tenetur_fw-la veritas_fw-la cum_fw-la hoc_fw-la facimus_fw-la quod_fw-la universae_fw-la iam_fw-la placuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la commendat_fw-la autoritas_fw-la ut_fw-la quando_fw-la s._n scriptura_fw-la fallere_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quisquis_fw-la falli_fw-la metuit_fw-la huius_fw-la obscuritate_fw-la quaestionis_fw-la eandem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la de_fw-la illa_fw-la consulat_fw-la quam_fw-la sine_fw-la 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