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13._o of_o their_o minister_n ibid._n cap._n 11._o accurse_a uncircumcised_a and_o murder_a generation_n the_o clergy_n be_v endight_v as_o the_o follower_n of_o antichrist_n they_o be_v wolf_n it_o be_v a_o sinagoge_n of_o satan_n their_o only_a endeavour_n how_o to_o prevent_v christ_n they_o be_v know_v to_o be_v enemy_n unto_o all_o sincerity_n 4._o posir_n ibid._n li._n 2._o cap._n 4._o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o another_o place_n right_o puissant_a poison_a persecute_v and_o terrible_a priest_n the_o holy_a league_n of_o subscripsion_n the_o crew_n of_o monstrous_a and_o ungodly_a wretch_n horn_a master_n of_o the_o conspiration_n house_n antichristian_a swinish_a rabble_n the_o convocation_n of_o devil_n under_o beelzebub_n of_o canterbury_n cheeâ—e_n of_o devil_n etc._n etc._n thus_o of_o they_o and_o concern_v the_o whole_a government_n face_n 4._o ibid._n cap._n 4._o and_o corpse_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n they_o say_v antichrist_n reign_v among_o we_o the_o 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substantial_o he_o must_v â—â—mayn_v convince_v of_o two_o great_a calumâ—â—tions_n for_o proof_n then_o of_o the_o first_o he_o allege_v â—â—ree_a reason_n which_o be_v these_o first_o that_o caâ—holyks_v do_v forbid_v vulgar_a translation_n not_o only_o of_o protestant_n but_o also_o of_o their_o own_o man_n conclude_v 3._o reason_n â—or_a s._n f._n he_o answer_v and_o never_o a_o one_o conclude_v except_o the_o bishop_n or_o inquisitor_n give_v special_a licence_n ergò_fw-la we_o hold_v it_o for_o heresy_n second_o that_o it_o be_v object_v to_o john_n lambert_n for_o anâ—_n heretical_a opinion_n which_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o fox_n though_o he_o name_v he_o not_o that_o he_o hold_v 65._o pag._n 41._o fox_n act_n and_o monu_fw-la pag._n 1006._o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 65._o that_o all_o head_n and_o ruler_n be_v bind_v by_o necessity_n of_o salvation_n to_o give_v the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o their_o people_n in_o theiâ—_n mother_n language_n his_o three_o argument_n be_v for_o 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&_o administer_v sacrament_n who_o see_v not_o the_o folly_n of_o this_o consequence_n but_o now_o whereas_o the_o warder_n upon_o this_o occasion_n enter_v into_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o the_o matter_n f._n the_o chief_a substance_n of_o the_o matter_n omit_v by_o sir_n f._n show_v at_o large_a how_o and_o in_o what_o sense_n read_v of_o scripture_n in_o vulgar_a tongue_n be_v forbid_v in_o the_o catholyke_a church_n and_o upon_o what_o cause_n and_o how_o far_o and_o to_o what_o person_n and_o to_o what_o end_n and_o with_o what_o limitation_n and_o how_o false_o heretic_n do_v cavil_v and_o slander_v they_o in_o this_o behalf_n and_o confirm_v the_o same_o by_o many_o authority_n argument_n and_o evident_a reason_n as_o also_o that_o the_o right_a understanding_n of_o scripture_n be_v a_o peculiar_a gift_n of_o god_n and_o not_o common_a to_o all_o and_o that_o experience_n both_o of_o our_o and_o old_a time_n have_v teach_v we_o the_o great_a evil_n and_o danger_n which_o 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sentence_n some_o one_o author_n of_o we_o some_o book_n scrip_n or_o scrolle_n where_o we_o say_v so_o and_o where_o we_o do_v pronounce_v that_o first_o for_o heresy_n why_o run_v he_o to_o so_o blind_a &_o weak_a argument_n and_o conjecture_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v hereby_o you_o may_v see_v what_o man_n of_o their_o wordâ—_n conscience_n and_o verity_n they_o be_v and_o i_o may_v say_v of_o this_o k_o t._n as_o tertullian_n say_v of_o martion_n the_o heretyke_a 231._o tertul._n lib._n 5._o ad_fw-la marc._n cap._n 14â—_n num_fw-la 231._o quantas_fw-la foveas_fw-la fecit_fw-la aufeâ—endo_fw-la quae_fw-la voluit_fw-la how_o many_o great_a gap_n have_v he_o make_v in_o my_o book_n leave_v out_o what_o he_o will_v or_o can_v not_o answer_v but_o now_o to_o the_o second_o untruth_n whether_o man_n be_v put_v to_o death_n in_o deed_n for_o only_o read_v scripture_n 43._o about_o the_o second_o untruth_n whether_o man_n be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o only_o read_v scripture_n wastword_n pag._n 43._o this_o depend_v of_o the_o first_o for_o if_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o we_o hold_v not_o that_o the_o only_a read_n of_o scripture_n be_v heresy_n as_o he_o affirm_v and_o we_o have_v show_v the_o contrary_a then_o follow_v it_o not_o to_o be_v likely_a that_o we_o brandle_v man_n to_o death_n with_o fire_n for_o this_o fact_n which_o be_v a_o punishment_n due_a to_o heresy_n let_v we_o see_v then_o what_o the_o k_o â—_o say_v here_o first_o of_o all_o he_o pick_v a_o quarrel_n as_o though_o i_o have_v add_v somewhat_o to_o his_o word_n saying_n 43._o pag._n 43._o before_o i_o proceed_v to_o the_o justify_n of_o my_o speech_n 43._o pag._n 43._o geve_v i_o leave_v to_o tell_v you_o that_o this_o word_n only_o by_o you_o thrust_v into_o my_o word_n be_v one_o lie_v of_o your_o coin_v tho_o not_o the_o only_a one_o lie_n here_o
linwod_fw-la lib._n 5._o de_fw-la magistris_fw-la that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o true_a english_a translation_n of_o the_o whole_a bible_n permit_v by_o approbation_n of_o the_o bishop_n to_o all_o such_o common_a people_n as_o shall_v be_v think_v apt_a to_o profyt_v thereby_o which_o be_v consider_v and_o that_o here_o only_o he_o ordain_v that_o no_o particular_a man_n of_o his_o own_o authority_n shall_v translate_v the_o scripture_n into_o english_a or_o publish_v thesame_a to_o other_o man_n read_v without_o lycen_n i_o will_v know_v of_o o._n e._n why_o this_o constitution_n be_v allege_v by_o he_o see_v it_o prove_v nether_a the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o of_o the_o foresaid_a point_n both_o which_o he_o say_v be_v prove_v thereby_o to_o wit_n that_o read_n of_o scripture_n be_v account_v heresy_n it_o the_o archb._n constitution_n be_v against_o o._n e_o who_o allege_v it_o or_o punish_v by_o brandle_v nay_o both_o these_o assertion_n be_v refute_v by_o this_o the_o first_o 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particular_a example_n in_o england_n itself_o and_o those_o punish_v also_o by_o protestant_n as_o of_o joane_n burcher_n william_n hacket_n william_n jeffrey_n and_o other_o unto_o all_o which_o experience_n &_o declaration_n this_o good_a fellow_n answer_v breeflie_o thus_o it_o be_v not_o read_v of_o scripture_n which_o he_o style_v rash_a read_n use_v by_o lay_v people_n 49._o pag_n 49._o but_o neglect_v of_o scripture_n bring_v forth_o error_n and_o heresy_n so_o that_o say_v what_o you_o wilâ—_n and_o prove_v what_o you_o will_v this_o fellow_n wipe_v of_o all_o with_o a_o bare_a denial_n yet_o whether_o neglect_v of_o scripture_n or_o rash_a or_o unreverent_a read_n which_o he_o do_v here_o bring_v in_o as_o opposite_a may_v not_o in_o some_o sense_n be_v the_o self_n same_o i_o leave_v to_o discreet_a man_n to_o ponder_v and_o thereby_o the_o wit_n of_o this_o writer_n and_o where_o as_o he_o say_v that_o heretic_n by_o tertullian_n be_v call_v lucifugae_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la ibideâ—â—_n ibideâ—â—_n the_o bar_n of_o scripture_n for_o that_o they_o fly_v from_o the_o true_a light_n of_o scripture_n i_o will_v pray_v the_o reader_n by_o this_o one_o place_n to_o ponder_v well_o with_o himself_o of_o this_o the_o fraudulent_a cog_a companion_n for_o he_o will_v have_v it_o seem_v and_o to_o that_o end_n he_o br_v it_o in_o that_o tertullian_n do_v assign_v it_o for_o peculiar_a property_n of_o heretic_n to_o fly_v reaâ—ing_v of_o scripture_n whereof_o here_o we_o entreat_v which_o be_v so_o false_a as_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o and_o â—â—at_a well_o know_v the_o sear_a conscience_n of_o his_o deceitful_a minister_n 15._o a_o notable_a abuse_v tertullian_n tertul._n lib._n the_o praescrip_n advers_a haeret_fw-la cap._n 15._o see_v that_o the_o whole_a â—earned_a discourse_n of_o tertullian_n de_fw-fr praescriptioâ—us_fw-la adversus_fw-la haereticos_fw-la that_o be_v of_o prescription_n â—prescribing_v against_o heretic_n be_v principal_o 〈◊〉_d exclude_v they_o from_o trial_n by_o scripture_n â—herof_o they_o brag_v and_o whereunto_o they_o â—ould_v seem_v to_o run_v as_o we_o do_v now_o adays_o 〈◊〉_d this_o he_o do_v from_o the_o 17._o chapter_n downward_o and_o before_o he_o enter_v into_o this_o demonstration_n he_o use_v this_o preamble_n ipsi_fw-la de_fw-fr scriptuâ—agunt_n the_o scripture_n suadent_fw-la scripturas_fw-la obtendunt_fw-la â—c_z &_o hac_fw-la sva_fw-la andacia_fw-la statim_fw-la quosdam_fw-la movent_fw-la heretic_n do_v treat_v of_o scriptureâ—_n do_v persuade_v out_o scripture_n do_v pretend_v scripture_n and_o with_o be_v their_o audacytie_n do_v move_v some_o people_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o very_a book_n allege_v by_o our_o miâ—â—â—ter_n out_o of_o tertullian_n de_fw-fr resurrectione_n caruis_fw-la show_v that_o heretic_n be_v great_a scripture_n â—n_o but_o to_o pervert_v and_o not_o to_o understand_v they_o aright_o and_o that_o without_o scripture_n no_o heresy_n can_v be_v found_v 40._o tertul._n lib_n the_o carnt_n resurrect_v c._n 40._o haereses_fw-la say_v he_o esse_fw-la non_fw-la possent_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la &_o perperam_fw-la scripturae_fw-la intelligi_fw-la possent_fw-la there_o can_v not_o be_v heresye_n that_o the_o scripture_n can_v not_o be_v evil_a understand_v and_o in_o the_o very_a particular_a place_n and_o controversy_n handle_v by_o he_o of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o body_n against_o heretic_n that_o deny_v thesame_a under_o preâ—ence_n of_o scripture_n he_o say_v to_o one_o of_o they_o 10._o ibid._n c._n 10._o tenâ—s_fw-la scripturas_fw-la utbus_fw-la caro_fw-la infuscatur_fw-la tene_fw-la ettam_fw-la quibus_fw-la illustratur_fw-la thou_o do_v allege_v scripture_n whereby_o the_o baseness_n and_o infirmytie_n of_o our_o flesh_n be_v set_v forth_o harcken_v also_o to_o those_o scripture_n by_o whiâ—h_a thesame_n be_v exalt_v and_o glorify_v and_o then_o pass_v over_o to_o a_o other_o point_n of_o proof_n he_o allege_v a_o place_n out_o of_o the_o apostle_n 1._o thess_n 5._o for_o resurrection_n of_o the_o flesh_n say_v thus_o age_fw-la
tam_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la thessalonicenses_n ut_fw-la ipsius_fw-la solis_fw-la radio_fw-la putem_fw-la scriptum_fw-la 47._o ibid_fw-la c_o 47._o ita_fw-la clareâ—_n qualtter_v acciptant_a luci_n fugae_fw-la isti_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la go_v to_o then_o how_o will_v these_o scripture-bat_n the_o heretic_n understand_v this_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n to_o thâ—_n thessalonian_o though_o it_o be_v so_o clear_a as_o i_o may_v think_v it_o to_o be_v write_v with_o the_o very_a beam_n of_o the_o sun_n itself_o here_o than_o you_o see_v that_o heretic_n be_v noâ—_n note_v or_o call_v night-battes_n by_o tertullian_n foâ—_n fly_v the_o read_n of_o scripture_n as_o this_o faiâ—â—_n lad_n will_v persuade_v his_o reader_n but_o ratheâ—_n the_o quite_o contrary_a that_o read_v and_o brag_v of_o scripture_n more_o than_o other_o bat_n how_o heretic_n â—re_n scripture_n bat_n yet_o be_v theâ—â—_n so_o blind_a in_o the_o true_a light_n thereof_o through_o their_o own_o pride_n and_o malice_n as_o 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