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A51484 A peaceable method for the re-uniting Protestants and Catholicks in matters of faith principally in the subject of the Holy Eucharist : proceeding upon principles agreed-on and waving points in dispute : upon occasion of the late conceit concerning the perpetuity of faith touching that great mystery / written in French by Lewis Mainbourg. Maimbourg, Louis, 1610-1686.; T. W. 1672 (1672) Wing M293; ESTC R26797 72,644 198

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Communities there are alwayes Courts of Justice which have received full Authority to Judge of Causes and Actions between particular persons When there happens a Sure at Law between two be they of what quality and condition they will even members of the Court it self they are no other than Parties Contesting Plaintiff and Defendant They must also have their Solicitors their Attournies and their Counsil to Plead for them but it is the Judge's business to give Sentence And when Sentence is once given if he who was cast should slight the Decree of the Court and be so bold as to say that he owns it not as legal nor the Court as lawful Judges and that it is He and his Solicitors and Council and those who are his Abettors who constitute a true Court and Seat of Justice I think he would be taken for no better than a Rebel and as Out-law or one that were not in his right wits And those who an hundred years after should dare to say that he had reason to do as he did would be thought to have as little judgement and reason as he Now can it be imagined that God would permit such an irregularity such a fearful disorder in the Government of his Church He has been pleased to give Power and Authority to an Assembly of Pastors who are the Representative of his Church to end all Contests in matters of Faith in such manner as we have already seen It is one this or that may be held or denyed before Judgement given as any one with his Party may think fit But when the Decree is once passed and it comes to be defined by this Church or Representative of the Church what is to be believed concerning the Point controverted he who has lost the cause be he who he will having antecedently to such definition owned that Church to be the True one must not nor cannot now say that it is not the Assembly but that it is he himsef his followers and Disciples who do represent and in reality constitute the True Church He who uses this language and those who take part with him in and at what time soever it does happen can be held for no other than true Schismaticks 8. This is clearly to be seen in the Acts of the Apostles and in the Ecclesiastical History and Protestants themselves will without difficulty grant it as they have already acknowledged it and solemnly professed it in the Synod of Dort The Primitive Church was made up of Jews and Gentile who had received the Holy Gospel It happened as it is recounted in the 15. of the Acts that some of those who had been converted from Judaisme coming to Antioch taught this Doctrine That if those who were of Gentils become Christians were not Circumcised according to the Custome of Moses his Law they could not be saved There fell to be a great Contest and a great disturbance in the Church about the matter St. Paul and St. Barnaby strongly opposing that Opinion and others maintaining it with a great deal of earnestness For the composing the business it was thought fit to send these two Saints and some of those of the contrary perswasion to the Apostles and Priests at Hierusalem to propose unto them the difficulty They failed not in the performance of their charge S. Paul and S. Barnabas relating unto them the favours which it had pleased God to shew to the Gentils by help of their Ministery without the assistance of the Law of Moses and those others especially some of the Pharisees who had been Convertedo urging very hotly Surrexerunt quidam de heresi Pharisaeorum qui crediderunt dicentes quia oportet circuncidi eos c. that it was necessary to oblige them to be Circumcised and to observe the Law of Moses in its full 〈◊〉 Upon this the Apostles assembled a Council at which all those of chiefest note were summoned to be present for the serious examination of the business And having weighed the Reasons on both sides at a large Conference Convenerunt Apostoli Seniores c. Cum autem magna conquisitio fieret c. and St. Peter having first declared himself upon the Point and being seconded by St. Iames with the general consent of the Holy Assembly there passed a Decree which was received by the whole Church in which was defined and declared with the assistance of the Holy Ghost who inspired them for the understanding Scripture that Circumcision was not at all necessary for salvation Visum est Spiritui sancto nobis c. as it had formerly been during the Law of Moses which was now to give place to the Law of Jesus Christ The business being thus concluded this Doctrine became a Point of Faith and those of the Pharisees who remained still obstinate in their opinion and those others who took part with them still pressing for a conformity with the Jews were now indeed true Pharisees in Christianity that is to say people cut of from the True Church however they pretended that she was onely in them and their Party 9. The same may be said of other Councils which have been afterwards held according to the example of that one which is the Model of all the rest Before the Heresie of Arius there was no speech of Consubstantiation That wicked Priest having dared to teach that The Blessed Word though Son of God was not of the same substance with the Father but onely like unto him found many passionate followers of his doctrine even among the Bishops who grounded themselves upon some passages of Holy Writ About which there arose a most desperate Dispute in the Church which caused a general disturbance to the peace thereof For the setling whereof and reaniting mens Spirits in one and the same Doctrine the great Council of Nice was called which did define that The Word was Consubstantial with the Father which was also inserted in the Symbol or Creed When this was done notwithstanding that many Bishops even of those who had assisted at the Council remained still of the Opinion of Arius and had made a strong and numerous Party who stiled themselves the True Church and called Councils amongst themselves they are still held and Protestants generally do even at this day hold them for Hereticks and all those who after so many Ages have followed that Sect are treated with the same stile by them The same is to be said of the Macedonians of the Nestorians Syn. Const Syn. Ephes Sy. Chalced. VI. Synod of the Eutychians of the Monothelites and the like who stand condemned in other Councils For although after their condemnations they protested that they were the True Church slighting the Councils which had Condemned their Opinions yet have they alwayes been accounted Hereticks and are so at this time by Protestants themselves And now if after they had rejected and condemned the Articles of the Arminians in their Synod of Dort those condemned persons should
these dayes ought to stick to the decisions of their Church in matters contested between them and us because they own her for the True Church But I think it is not at all hard to discover a great difference For making up to the head or source of the decision we shall find those who first raised the doubt and brought these Points into debate were of the same Church which was accordingly the True because the onely Church and owned for such by both Parties before she declared her self upon the matter in dispute which without trouble we are agreed upon with Monsieur Claude The case is not here so Because we who are at Dispute with Protestants are not of the same Church with them and so are not within the limits of thy maxime which has with mutual corsent been established and received Again they having taken part with those who at that time revolted from the True Church because they would not obey her Decrees made by Canonical Judgement it is manifest that their Community is but a false and Schismatical Church according to the Principles received from them in the Synod of Dort 3. Secondly the Church before she gives Sentence upon any Point proposed examining it by Scripture and real Tradition and for the better understanding them searching into the Sentences of the Ancient Holy Fathers endeavouring thus to reascend unto the Apostles themselves we are from hence to conclude that she being inspir'd by the Holy Ghost who has promised to teach her all Truths as occasions require what she defines is alwayes conformable both to Scripture and Tradition Thus it is that we are to learn by her definitions what is the true meaning or sence of Scripture when there is place for doubting thereof Before the Council of Nice there were most desperate Disputes concerning certain passages of Scripture which the followers of Arius alledged for the upholding their upstart doctrine As for example about that in the fifth of St. Iohn where our Blessed Saviour says that his Father is greater than he Quia Pater major me est Joh. 5. from whence they inferred that he was not of the same Substance The others on the contrary maintained that this passage was to be understood of the Son of God considered according to Humane nature which places him infinitely below the Father and makes him submit even to the death of the Cross but not according to his Divine nature which renders him equal and makes them both to be of one and the same Substance These two sence were hotly maintained by the two Parries each of them challenging the true sence or meaning of Scripture on their side But when the Council having throughly examined this important question had defined the Consubstantiality of The Word making use of a terme which is not found in Holy Writ for the clearer expressing that Truth which she discovered there then was there no more time nor place to doubt what was the lawful sence thereof and there arose an obligation through this definition of believing that that was the true one which was given by the Divines vvho opposed the faction of the Arians The same is certainly to be said upon this occasion especially our present cause being upon much better termy and more strongly provided for by the evidence of the Texts alledged for it When at first the poposition vvas made concerning the Real Presence in the time of Pascasius as Mr. Claude pretends and presently opposition was made as he is pleased to say for at present we will assume nothing but of his free gift there happened a great Contest which grew yet much greater after some time concerning the true sence of those words This is my Body One side maintaining that they did express a Real Presence and the other pretending that they onely signified that that which our Blessed Saviour gave unto his Apostles represented his Body Both parties as we have often taken notice were of the same Church which they acknowledged and owned to be the True Church This Church having throughly examined the business in her General Councils defines a Real Presence and substantial change even to the making use of the word Transubstantiation which is not literally found in the Gospel for the expressing more clearly that verity which she discovered therein and for the efficacious obstructing any other sence which might be given to those words This is my Body From that time forward it was no longer lawful to doubt of the sence of them And by this definition men stood obliged to believe that they were to be understood plainly and literally not metaphorically When there is really place of doubt it is not for particular persons who are at strife to determine the sence of the Text in Dispute but this belongs properly to the Church which is Judge in the case For else there could never be any end of Disputes and God should not have furnished us with any certain means for the finding out Truth when doubts do arise concerning Holy Scripture nor consequently for the clearing those debates which may arise in matters of Religion Which certainly would be the same as to say that he had not provided for the Government quiet and peace of his Church Non quia Canon solus non sibi ad universa sufficiat sed quia verba divina pro suo quique arbitratu interpretantes varias opiniones errorèsque concipiant Atque ideo necesse fit ut ad unam Ecclesiastici sensus regulam scriptueae caelestis intelligentiae dirigatur Common 2. c. antep Cap. Penul It is not as Vincentius Lirientius sayes that the Word of God does not contain all the Verities which we believe but because many presuming to interpret the Holy Text according to their fancy mishape their errors accordingly Thus it becomes necessary upon such occurences to regulate the sence we are to give to Holy Scripture by that meaning which the holy Church gives it And from hence it was that he took occasion some three years after the Council of Ephesus to enveigh so sharply against that desperate presumption of wicked Nestorius who had the impudence to maintain that he alone had the gift of Understanding those Texts of Scripture which he alledged for the authorising his impious blasphemies and that the whole Church represented in that Council had erred grosly for want of understanding them Thus when Disputes arise we ought not to judge of the Doctrine of the Church by that sence which our selves give of Holy Scripture but we must iudge of the true sence of Holy Scripture by the Doctrine of the Church The same in proportion is to be said of the passages of Holy Fathers For it being the custome and order of the Church to advise with them concerning the Judgement she is to give regularly speaking we ought to understand them according to her Doctrine whenever these arises a controversy concerning the meaning of their words which do not alwayes