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B20526	The font-guard routed, or, A brief answer to a book written by Thomas Hall superscribed with this title, The font guarded with 20 arguments therein endeavouring to prove the lawfulness of infant baptism wherein his arguments are examined and being weighed in the ballance of the sanctuary are found too light : the most considerble of Mr. Baxters arguments for infant-baptism being produced by Tho. Hall are here answered likewise / written by Tho. Collier ; to which is added A word of reply to Tho. Halls word to Collier and another to John Feriby's [ap]pendix called The pulpit-guard relieved ; with An answer to Richard Sanders's pretended Balm to heal religious wounds, in answer to The pulpit-guard routed : with an humble representation of some few proposals to the honorable committee appointed by the Parliament for propagation of the Gospel.	Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691.	1652 (1652)	Wing C5285; ESTC R5188	90,512	112

an innovation not of many years standing in this Nation as is well known Austin when he came first into England baptized in Rivers in particular as History relates he baptized some thousands in a River neer York Thus have I given you a brief Answer to the material things in your Guard I leave it to the consideration of the Reader and shall proceed to give you a brief Reply to your inveterate Word to Collier A Reply to Thomas Hall Sir YOu are pleased to write a Word to Thomas Collier c. A Love-letter he that runs may read it And indeed we did conclude before what we might expect from you if the Lord gave you power according to your will And I make no question but what you have here written will make the Magistrate the more sensible of what spirit you are and will keep from you what you so much expect viz. a Coercive power to compell or persecute all that are contrary to you And in what you have done I believe you have more wounded your self and your own interest then either the truth or me the Truth standing pure in it self getting advantage by its enemies though no thanks to them And as for my self a poor weak and contemptible Creature held forth in the hand of the Lord and being upheld by Divine assistance shall I doubt not but with joy pass through good report and bad reportt till I have finished my course and done the work whereunto I am appointed accounting the reproach of Christ greater riches then the treasures of Egypt viz. Tythes You say I Colly every thing Trinity Scripture Law Gospel c. Sir you are mistaken in it all and so indeed have written forged falshood and sent it abroad into the world But I own and honour all these you mention in their proper place and according to the appointment of the Lord and your self it is who have been in the Black so long that you Colly all as will appear anon and you will be the Hall it seems the storehouse which retains all blackness darkness c. and from thence it cometh forth unto the rest You say I set my self against the Anabaptists themselves whom I canonize for Saints in the highest form yet blame them for adhering to Ordinances It s very false there is no such word written but it is for making too much of them not for making use of them And if some fail is it not lawful to reprove but Thomas Hall must raise an untruth and reproach upon it change my words for his own ends I pass your foul and filthy language more fit for Billinsgate then the Press and come to your particular Charges 1. An Heretick and a Blasphemer To this purpose you mention the Discourse at Axbridge where Parson Smith and Parson Carlile both Cavaliers falsly swear 1. That he denied Jesus Christ to be the eternal Son of God 2. He denied a local Heaven 3. He denied the equality of the Son with the Father 4. He denied that Jesus Christ by his death upon the Cross did satisfie Divine Justice 5. He denied the Trinity 6. He affirmed that the Saints are the sons of God in the same manner as Christ 7. He affirmed that the Divine Essence was communicated to the Saints 8. That the bodies of the Saints should be turned into spirits 9. That the Moral Law was abolished Ans Were you not of the same blind and malicious spirit as those two lying Parsons were you durst not call such things Blasphemies as were in truth by me maintained and is apparent in the same Book or Discourse 1. I denied not the Eternity of Jesus Christ but the eternal generation in the Godhead for which there is not one Scripture that speaks the least hint 2. As to the locality of Heaven that I said was that God was not locally limited c. 3. The Equality of the Son Quality and equality is proper only to man there is no quality or equality in the Godhead whatever is in God is in him essentially not as a quality It s true Christ as the Messiah is equal with God but in the union of the Divine essence there is no quality nor equality but union in essence and essence in union 4. For Satisfaction to the Divine Justice I own it and have proved it had you not been blind upon the true account it was the great end why Christ was inabled to the work and sent forth that so he might satisfie the righteousness and truth of the Father which man could never do unto justification 5. As to the Trinity that is false likewise it was the Trinity of Persons not the Trinity that I own but no Person in the Godhead no Scripture saith it 6. That the Saints are the sons of God in the same manner as Christ that is in being made partakers of the same Spirit Rom. 8. 9. 7. That the Divine Essence is communicated to the Saints If the Spirit of Christ be in them then the Divine Essence is in them But the Spirit of Christ is in them Therefore the Divine Essence is in them I do not mean the whole Essence but a spark or influence of the Divine Essence 8. That the bodies of the Saints should be turned into Spirits that I said was no other then what the Apostle saith they shall be raised with spiritual bodies 9. That the Moral Law was abolished to Believers as a dispensation in the hands of Moses all this more at large might you see in the discovery of that Discourse but you were blinde it seems and could not see afar off But you manifest your minde Collier it seems is in your way you would fain have him burnt with his Books What another Bonner Will you justifie your Fathers in their wickedness and so bring upon your self all the righteous blood shed from Abel to this day but if the Lord hath so determined I trust in the strength of the Grace of Christ my life and blood will be as ready to witness to the truth as my tongue and pen. I say no more about your Charge of Blasphemy but this After the way you call Blasphemy and Heresie worship I the God of my Fathers And that seed you falsly and wickedly call the Devils seed am I still sowing and doubt not but there will grow up such a happy and blessed Harvest as will be to the honour of Truth and joy of Saints though to the grief and amazement of enemies and gain-sayers Mean while go you on blaspheming God and them that dwell in Heaven gnaw your tongue for pain yet not repent of your deeds 2. You say he is a Lyar dyed in grain You say You can prove him guilty of above a thousand lyes and errours c. Was there ever the like lyar heard of in the world What above a thousand lyes yet mentions but 15. when he hath done all that he can and these fifteen are most of them truth by him falsely called lyes

and errours the rest of them Inventions falslely charged by him 1. That Infant-Baptism came from the Pope and the Devil The truth of this assertion I refer the Reader to what I have said before and there you will see the Pope very probably that brought it in Higinus in the second Century 150 years after Christ 2. That Christ hath abolished the Law that is as to Believers as a dispensation in the hands of Moses see 2 Cor. 3. 11. 13. And the pure Gospel is the only Rule What son of Belial dare to deny this for the Law is brought forth in Gospel and as given forth by Christ is the pure Gospel Rule therefore though the substance of the old Command yet is called new because given forth upon the new and true account 1 Ioh. 2. 7. 8. 3. A Socinian his Tenet is that all gifted persons may preach without Ordination This is according to the truth of Scripture 1 Cor. 4. 31. 34. Where all that have gifts may prophesie none exempted except women 4. He is a Familist approving of dreams c. Answ That is false I do not approve them yet neither do I altogether deny but God may manifest himself in that way if he please not that it is my experience neither would I limit God Against Vniversities Arts Sciences not in themselves upon the humane account but as they are set up in the room of the Spirit of Christ so the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God 5. He is an Antiscripturist denying the truth of Scripture c. Answ Another most abominable falshood who will be the lyar anon Thomas Hall but you prove it learnedly 1. Because I approve of such who will not permit you to draw any consequences from Scripture because you have so much abused them with your consequences 2. Because minding some of your consequences I conclude that they are as true as Scripture if the people would but believe it You infer then that these consequences must be true or the Scripture is false I say and I supposed that you had had wit enough to understand that I spake in your language or in your sence that you account these consequences as true as Scripture if the people would believe you 3. He saith that in his general Epistle to the Saints chap. 10. p. 28. the Scripure is not sufficient to teach the knowledge of God I Query of any one who knows the Lord whether the Scripture without the Spirit of Christ doth or can teach any one true and saving knowledge and that some make too much of it that is such as Thomas Hall who think it able without the Spirit of Christ to teach the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and if you could have told all you might have seen and said that I say there likewise that many make too little of it and that the substance of my Discourse there is to hold forth the truth and authority of the Scripture in the light of the Spirit that so souls by the teaching of the Spirit of Christ may come to a right understanding of them and that indeed its your selves that truly teach people to deny Scripture I own the truth of it and say that whoever denieth it must deny God Christ and all Religion and the truth is that your self it is that disowns it and reproacheth it too further then it stands with your own will 6. You say He is an Arian and Anti-Trinitarian denyes the Father Son and Holy Ghost are three distinct persons c. Answ I deny not the Trinity Father Son and Spirit but I deny any person in the Godhead at all that is a word or title given only to man and the Scripture you mention Heb. 1. 3. I am not altogether so ignorant of it as you would have me it is substance and not Person and this you know and abuse it not ignorantly but wilfully The same word Heb. 11. 1. is rendred substance 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 faith is the substance of things hoped for not the Person that would be nonsense you must produce some Scripture where that Prosopon which signifieth Person is attributed to God or that Hypostasis is attributed to man before you can have any colour to call God three Persons or one either for he is a Spirit and will be worshipped in Spirit and Truth 7. He is an Anti-Sabbatarian he is all for a Spiritual Sabbath Answ Because I write of a spiritual Sabbath doth it therefore follow that I am an Anti-Sabbatarian have you ever seen any thing written by me against the Sabbath have you not cause to blush at your weakness or wickedness because I discover the spiritual Sabbath therfore you say I am against the Sabbath 8. An Independent as to man and creatures in the things of God but only on Jesus Christ and is this such a dangerous thing to be off from every thing save Jesus Christ 9. Arigid Separatist Answ Never too rigid in separating from Babylons false ways and worships which is no other then the Synagogue of Satan a Cage of every unclean and hatefull Bird I say it again for all your anger I must be faithfull I may not pittie or spare you for that will ruine you 10. A Perfectist see his Generall Epist to the Saints ch 15. p. 52. Answ No other then is the duty of every Saint to be that is pressing after perfection I there declare that perfection is not attainable in this life till the body of flesh is dissolved nor till the Resurrection neither I say no more of this but refer the Reader to the Epistle it self where you may see how the Hall hath stored up lyes to reproach the innocent 11. He is an enemy to all Learning he oft calls it the language of the beast c. Answ Keep it in its place and do as much good as you can with it but let it once get in the room of the Spirit then it puffs up with pride then it s but the language of the Beast of the fleshly man the smoak of the bottomless pit of mans wisdom and that which must be destroyed That the Spirit and Scriptures are sufficient for the Ministers calling c. At this you seem to rage extreamly as if this were such a dangerous Heresie that deserves no less then a stake a faggot and a fire could Tho Hall have his will let the Understanding judge I am sure I have heard one of your brethren more famous then ever your self in the eyes of the people assert this that the Scripture was sufficient for the Ministers calling c. who left out the Spirit of Christ but it seems your abilities depend upon your good old books Popish Fathers c. 12. He is against Magistrates Answ No such thing only my desire is that Magistrates should not rule where its alone Christs Prerogative I desire to give to Caesar that which is his and to God that which is his 13. Against Ministry Ans