refused the least acknowledgment much lesse performance of duty to any Parnel Goliahs head c. p. 68. speaking about Ornaments Moderation in every thing I owne but what is wast is for the lust both in Kings Princes and great Personages as thou callest them but with us there is no respect of persons Conclusion Since then the Light of the Quakers doe put out this Light of Nature I conclude their Light is the Light of Satan not of Christ Argum 3 Major That Light which teacheth men to forsake the Scriptures setting up a Spirit in man which shall not be examined by the Scriptures is the Lightâ—â— Satan not of Christ Minor But such is the Quakers Light Ergo. The Scriptures are left by God to be our Light and our Rule Major proved Prov. 6.23 Psal 119.105 The Prophets bid us goe to them Isa 8.20 Christ bids us search them Ioh. 5.39 The men of Berea Act. 17.11 Tried Paul by these for Paul to tell them of his infallible Spirit and so they might believe him without searching the Scriptures he had as good say nothing those men were commended for this action Apollos a mighty man in the Scriptures Acts 18.24 convinced the Jewes by the Scriptures ver 28. Minor But the Light of the Quakers teach men to forsake the Scriptures setting up a Spirit in man which shall not be examined by the Scriptures If you aske me before I goe to the proof Doe the Quakers cast off the Scriptures I answer when they can finde any thing which they think make against us then they will urge the Scriptures very much Golich p. 63. yea they will run to the Apocrypha rather than faile to help themselves as Parnel to evade the strength of Levit. 19 32. runs to Chap. 4 of the Booke of Wisdome v. 8 9. but mistakes Yea further when Satan hath gotten strong hold of persons in their way yet he will then provoke them to reade the Scriptures much but casteth strange glosses upon the Scripture p. 21. 21. as I. Told confesseth when he was in that snare Herein he worketh like an Angel of Light But to speake truely the Quakers make nothing of the Scriptures miserably abusing that text 2 Cor. 3.6 You shall hear them speak 1. I. Toldervy p. 6. reporteth of that Quaker who was the means of his seducing that he expressed with firme confidence that searching of the Scripture was not the way to finde out the knowledge of Christ but the turning the minde to within quite crosse to Christ why did not Christ bid them turn to that 2. Mason pag 12. in his defence of Craven Thou sayest to his Opponent the Old and New Testament is thy rule the same was writ for thy imitation He answers But did Paul or any of the Aposlles walke by any literall rule or was not their rule a â—â—asure of the Spirit of God committed to every one of them but it were well if these pecuniary Priests would walke answerable to the precepts left upon record in the Letter By this you may see what Mason makes of the written Word 3. Parnel Watcher pag. 8. where you may have a learned discourse how the profession of the Christian Faith Religion came into England two pages before Let those who are ignorant read it But p. 8. he addes and those had the writings of the Prophets and Apostles which is called Scripture and so was the Keepers of the Letters and that they took to be their rule to walke by as they doe now but knew not that which gave it forth to lead them unto the life but had the letter and the forme To the same purpose he speaks p 40. and in his Goliah p 77. 4. Naylor against I. Reyner p. 3. speaking against us hath these words Whose Law is without Light without their Word without their Church without Baptisme Prayers without All which we witnesse to bee within Farewell then the written Word Naylor Saluta c. p. 29. tells those that will follow their doctrine then you shall not have your Light and Life to seek in a Book without you c. Naylor against F. Harris p 9. speaks out The Infallible Spirit by which the Scriptures were given forth is the sole tryer of spirits and doctrines neither hath it need of any addition where it is you bring the letter to oppose Christ and so deny the end of the Scriptures which is to see up the Spirit of God for Judge and not themselves c. So then the Scriptures must not judge of his Spirit but your spirit is Judge of the Scriptures 5. Priests Ignorance p. 4 5. The summe is this it is all one to them Scriptures or no Scriptures for they have the Spirit that did give forth the Scriptures As for the written Word you see how they contemn it and condemn those who make it their rule to walke by when they doe use it it is at the pleasure of their infallible spirit what shall be the meaning of it Here I will give you a taste of their spirit Parnel entitles one of his Books the Watcher and tell us in his Title-page of the stone that struck the feet of the Image quoting Dan. 2.31 32 c. By this title we shall â—â—pect some great matter about the Image p. 21 22. It is one thing to allude to a scripture another thing to inteâ—pret it as doth Parnel here his spirit interprets the Image Now the head of the Image which is of gold and are those that have had a light shining into them and have seen the emptinesse of many Forms and have gotten the thing in their comprehension with more of this stuffe which I am loath to transcribe and the breast of the Image which is of silver and the thighs of brasse are the rest of the sects and forms and the legs of the Image which is of iron is the beast and the feet of the Image which is part of iron part of clay are the Priests and Pharisees joyned to the powers of the earth c. But Parnel the Spirit in Daniel gave another Interpretation of this Image in the same Chapter and we have seen it fulfilled in the greatest part How darest thou then set down thy Interpretation thus crosse to his Oh that any Christians should admit such a Fellow into their houses Let us hear Deusbury's spirit interpreting Revel pag. 20. 17. Babylon is within you the Beast is within you which all the world wonders after what a wonder is this I hear there is a Doctour of Divinity in London hath given the same interpretation of this Beast c. that all the world should wonder after that which none of the world ever saw is your wills your wisdome is the great Whore that sits upon the Beast But why doe you stay here Deusbury goe on to 9 10 11 12 16 verses and tell us what they are when you have done turn to the last clause
of the 19 ver of the 1 Chap. and 1 ver of the 4. Chap. there see how neatly your spirit have interpreted this 17 Chap. John was shown things that were to be hereafter but it seems there were no such wills hearts nor wisdome before Iohn but all the wickednesse of men was to be after Iohn Is this the best Interpretation your spirit can make Conclusion Since then the Quakers Light teach men to forsake the Scriptures and set up a spirit in man which shall not be examined by the Scriptures Hence I conclude the Quakers Light is the Light of Satan c. The Quakers divide the Spirit from the Scriptures Argum 4 Major That Light which maketh the Scripture to crosse it selfe and that in things known by the Light of Nature that Light is the light of Satan not of Christ Minor 〈◊〉 such is the Quakers Light Ergo. Major The Major is clear For if the same infallible spirit gave out all the parts of the Scripture then to have one Scripture plainly and truely to contradict another and that in things known by the Light of Nature would argue high imperfection in the Spirit of God which is blasphemy to impute unto him Minor But the Quakers Light doe make the Scripture crosse it self and that in things known by the Light of Nature Thus all the Quakers and Bishop in particular p. 24. quotes the 2 of Iames to overthrow all respect to persons Then where is the honouring of Parents and Superiours as in my second Argument I opened The very first verse will give the meaning of the Apostle Have not the Faith of the Lord Iesus c. with respect of persons If you like the faith of our Lord Jesus when it is in a rich man but despise it in a poor man this is sinfull yet there are good reasons to be given from the 6 7 ver that the rich man S. Iames mentions was not a believer but rather an Heathen and to have a rich Heathen preferred before a poor Believer is sinne however take the 9th if you have respect to persons c. One way it is true another way false Take the words Divisim thus may I or must I shew civill respect to a rich man that is much above me though wicked much more if a Magistrate Father c. for these relations are not founded upon Grace yes that you must else you transgresse the Royall Law Honour thy Father c. But take the words Conjunctim thus may I show civil respect to rich persons c. and despise a poor man that hath the Faith of our Lord Jesus No if you doe you sinne God will allow no such respect of persons thus the Scriptures are preserved in their harmony and Natures Light not offended Take another instance the glory of the Lord c. put out by such as the world call Quakers p. 10 11 12. He takes the words of our Saviour Mat. 5.34 Swear not at all to overthrow all swearing there he brings in severall holy men who sware Abraham Iacob David the Angel Rev. 10. Ierem 4.2 All that he answers is but Christ saith Swear not at all I observe he doth not mention Paul in 2 Cor. 1.23 I call God for a record upon my soule and other places where Paul swears yet he was after Christ did Paul and the Angel sin It is not my purpose to enlarge upon this but a few words ver 33. Thou shalt not forswear thy selfe 1. But Christ doth not quote the Deut. 10.20 6.13 where it is joyned to the command of fearing God and serving him Thou shalt sweare by his name Indeed by the Earth Heaven or Ierusalem c. thou shalt not sweare no nor by the name of God vainely but when thou art called to it upon just and weighty causes then the old command holds else I must destroy a part of the Law and not fulfill it verse 17. 2. In an oath there is some religious worship performed to God declaring him to be the Omniscient God and the Punisher of such as dare speak falshood would Christ take away this honour from his father Thirdly There is as much need of an Oath in regard of the end of an Oath now after Christ as ever there was before Christ 22 Exod. 11. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 men doe sweare not men did sweare before Christ but now left it since he spake those words there is strife still Object But where there is strife they are without p. 12. Ans 1. It were well for you if you were within 2. There may be difference between those who are in Christ and yet the difference so fairly carried as no sinfull strife but an Oath will put an end to it 3. But may a Magistrate give an Oath to those who are without surely no if that be true must not swear at all How then shall strife be ended 4. We know the Quakers are not so perfect but strife will be among them Fourthly The Quakers bid men be guided by their Consciences the Light of God within but that Light within doth lead men to swear in great cases to put an end to strife we finde it so among the Heathen Abimelech c. both before and after Christ The Light of Nature teacheth this why then doe you oppose it Fifthly I wonder Paul should so forget himself to sinne so fearfully in swearing as he did yea and an Angel also Isa 65.16 relates to the times after Christ Conclusion Hence then it followes the Quakers Light is the Light of Satan not of Christ Argum 5 Major That Light which takes men off from that rule which is perfect and cannot erre and sends them to be guided by a Light which is imperfect and may and doth erre that is the Light of Satan not the Light of Christ Minor But such is the Light of the Quakers Ergò Major The Major cannot be denied for will the Light of Christ teach men to leave his own perfect rule and goe to an imperfect one then if men walk by it how can they be blamed he must then approve of sinne The Minor need proof which is this That Light which takes men off from the Law of God his Word and send them to the Light of Conscience to be guided by it that Light take men off from a perfect rule and send them to an imperfect one c. But thus doe the Quakers Ergo. The Word of God is perfect Psal 19.7 2 Tim. 3.16 17. But the Quakers doe not send men to the Word but to their Consciences I grant it were well if men did attend to the dictates of a true illightned Conscience and it will be fearfull damnation that they doe not But this is not all the Quakers mean But however the Light of Conscience is 1 but Imperfect 2 It may erre It is imperfect here I will take occasion to examine the Text the Quakers make so much use of 1. Joh. 9. This was the
you see the Priests ignorance and the Quakers knowledge laid together So let any one that hath reason reade Naylor his Answer to Io Reyners Queries Parnel against Dr. Draton and then see if it be not a wofull judgment of God to let a Nation be over-run and people catched with such witlesse brainlesse fellowes besides their grosse abominable principles that destroy Scriptures Ordinances Churches civil States c. Conclusion Since then the Light which the Quakers boast come from the infallible Spirit in them is thus irrationall brutish c. I conclude their Light is from Satan not from Christ Argum 12 Major That Light which affirmeth sound believers walking evangelically in obedience to Gods commandements to be in a state of condemnation that Light is from Satan not from Christ Minor But so doe the Light of the Quakers Ergo. The Major is plain 3 Ioh. 36.18.16 16 Mar. 16. If faith and holinesse shall go to hell what shall goe to heaven Minor They doe not say this in so many words but by consequence for the persons who are such and they cannot disprove it they affirm to be in that condition But the Quakers Light affirmeth sound believers and persons who walk in obedience c. to be in a state of condemnation For we are assured there are hundreds of sound believers in Christ in England that fear to sinne walke with the Lord and that more close than the Quakers who doe detest and abominate the Quakers doctrines principles and practises but the Quakers say of those who come not amongst them that they shall be damned perish c. This is their common language about us Thus J. Toldervy Ep. 17.18 told his Master Col. Web. Thus Mason p. 8. speaking to the Ministers whom he calls Merchants of Babylon bid us read our doom in Revel 18.7.8 yet among these I am sure are very sound believers and very holy men if they may be tried by the word which shall try them yea and you Mason and all your Quakers notwithstanding your boastings of the infallible Spirit Thus I. N. p. 17. F. Harris makes this Querie Whether it be safe for Christians to forsake and let goe those Gospel-dispensations of the Spirit of Truth in which God hath blessedly appeared c The summe of his answer is this that all those who deny the light of Christ and the infallible spirit in their sense this must be taken else we do say some truth is in this have nothing but the spirit of delusions but then adds without the infallible spirit there is no promise nor word but what is stolen from others or out of a booke and had thou had no booke thou had no voice nor promise Here is brave stuffe the promises then in the Bible are little worth if I. N. can finde any promises out of this book let him take them for me Thus Parnel and Naylor call the Ministers Magicians Let the Quakers tell us what is faith according as the Lord Christ declares it in his Word not their infallible Spirit without the Word tell us what it is to walk holily as the holy men in Scripture have done and see if there be not many hundreds that answer that faith and holinesse And let me desire the Quakers but to tell me of one man in the Word of God that was holy who embraced the Quakers doctrines principles and practises Conclusion Since then the Quakers light condemne such as the light of Christ approves of hence I conclude their light is from Satan c. Jam. 3.1 Be not many Masters knowing we shall receive the greater condemnation Who so masterly as the Quakers Mat. 7. ver 1. Argum 13 As for their shaking in that strange manner which some report of them and their books defend it is manifest enough to every one whom the God of this world hath not blinded whence it comes and prove their doctrine to have the same Authour it is a thing so known amongst them that J. Toldervy saith p. 28. He had long waited for it then had it to purpose My whole man was so shaken torn and rent that had I not by a great strength been enabled I could not have continued also it did worke in me as though I had taken a strong purge pag. 29. yet I. N. against F. Harris p. 18. abuseth the holy examples of Daniel Moses and David to defend these Diabolical actings nothing like those holy men neither in the causes nor effects Let the Reader observe the History at the end of the book I shall conclude all with transcribing a few lines out of him where he relateth what one of these Quakers who was of his former acquaintance pag. 7. spake to him with Answer to one of Parnels Queries He gave me to understand that they were sent forth to preach the Gospel by the same Christ the Apostles were and that the person that Son of God which died at Jerusalem was not the Redeemer of man from sinne Oh fearful but the redeemer was in every particular man that light by which he was given to see sinne and enabled by it if obeyed to be redeemed from sinne which Christ had redeemed them perfect and now lived in them Lord of all things by which they were made the sons of God and so what was manifested to them by that substance from that substance were they moved to speake which was the same holy Ghost by which the Apostles were endued sent forth and enabled to preach so he declared how sometimes in the night they were immediately commanded by the eternall spirit to goe forth and preach c. Here is enough said to make us all quake I intend not to open the wretchednesse that lieth in these words onely this is worth the observation that whereas some have cast off all Officers and Churches because we are out of order say they and therefore they wait for Apostolical men to be sent from God I know not how to bring us into order here you have them I hope your expectation is answered by a fearful judgement of God But let us hear what is Parnels opinion though propounded by way of querie Whether any now ought to preach in the name of Jesus but who are called to it and fitted for it the same way as the holy men of God were spoken of in Scripture What holy men he meaneth the next Querie to this will interpret Whether doe you owne immediate revelation now yea or nay q 8.9 The question would be what he means by immediate revelation but by comparing their spirits we may know his meaning Bishop p. 24. proving that we are not the Ministers of Christ brings in this for one proof Gal. 1.12 the Ministers of Christ received not the Gospel by man nor the will of man nor were they taught it but by the revelation of Jesus Christ in them We may see what Parnel aimes at but in this sense no we own no such revelations 1. For
what should such Revelations concern Faith or Manners If Faith All that we are bound to believe Christ hath perfectly revealed in his Word If Manners Christ also hath perfectly reveal'd the whole will of God for our obedience 2 Tim. 3.16 17. The Scripture c. There it is to be found in the Scripture whatever is requisite to make the man of God perfect Since we have a perfect rule what need we more What if there be a revelation that crosse an Article of faith or rule of obedience in the Scripture as doe the pretended revelations of the Quakers what shall we judge of it Surely the Devil is the Author of it 2. The foundation upon which the true Church of Christ is built hath long since been perfectly layed Ephes 2.20 and are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himself being the chief Corner-stone No Church need any better foundation to be built upon than the Church of the Ephesians was built upon that was built upon not any of our new mad Diabolical Apostles but the Apostles which the Lord Jesus himself called fitted in a glorious manner that the servants did shew who was their Master and Paul one of these Acts 20.27 tells the Elders I have not shunned to declare to you All the Counsell of God which concerneth our salvation If the Quakers bring any more then Paul did not declare All but whether Paul or the Quakers speak truest we will not dispute shew us now such men as those Apostles were 3. I pray tell us what Scripture have you to prove that any men now in these dayes should have such revelations and that now we must look again for Apostles It may be you will make a tush at Scripture and tell us your infallible Spirit tells you so but we can upon better grounds make a tush at your Spirit and curse you by the authority of the Spirit for adding to his Word Deut. 12.32 Rev. 22.18 4. Before you brag of your Apostleship and Revelations shew your selves to be I will not say Christians but Men rational men which as yet you have not done 5. As after those Prophets under the Old Testament whom God raised up no man dared to assume to himselfe that Name and Office I know there were those who were called Prophets in the N. Test but they differed from the Old or dared to be a Pen-man so after the Apostles whom Christ himselfe chose fitted and authorized to be his Pen-men in the New Testament let none dare to be so devilish to assume that Office or Name unto themselves 6. The Testatour is dead who then shall make any other Testament or what need is there of any other than what himself hath made For the infallible Spirit the Quakers so much prate of abusing the Ministers because they doe not boast of it and Mason in particular pag 15. abuseth Mr. Scortrith and bid his people take heed of him I shall speak a few words Mason adds this Take this along with you too The Spirit of Truth is the infallible Spirit But George Scortrith confesses he hath not the Infallible Therefore George Scortrith preaches from the Spirit of Errour What now what doe Quakers make Syllogismes then we look to our selves but Mason the next time you make a Syllogisme desire your Master to learn you so much skill to make a true one for the Priests doe laugh to reade such a false one You might have indeed disposed the predicate of your question in the Major proposition with some words altered but now it is no where disposed But to the businesse 1. If the Quakers would have us affirme that all Ministers must have the Spirit in that manner as the Prophets 1 Pet. 1. v. 11. and Apostles v. 12. So 2 Pet. 1. ult then we professedly say we have it not If the Quakers say they have it so then I say the Spirit in the Prophets and Apostles was not the infallible Spirit for the Quakers spirit is crosse to that 2. I affirm that Ministers I mean not every particular man who calls himself a Minister have that Spirit which is Infallible to some a Spirit of gifts and grace to some onely gifts We pray to the Lord for it and that we may be guided by it 3. True Ministers doe by that Spirit from his word teach to their people the infallible truths of Christ they build them upon such foundations for doctrine and practise that not one who follow their preaching shall ever miscarry but shall honour God here and be infallibly saved hereafter 4. Those who have forsaken this Ministerie the Spirit of God hath left them and let them fall into corrupt errors and some damnable heresies with practises grievous and offensive to the Spirit But yet to say that this Spirit which with reverent humility we dare say we have doth or is bound to teach us every one in every Iota of truth so that not in any particular whatever we may mistake this we doe not affirm no more than he doth or is bound to expell every relique of corruption out of our hearts we know but in part Peter might boast of this Spirit more than Mason but whence then doth he walke so Gal. 2.11.14 as to deserve a reproof Nay goe to others who were guided extraordinarily Isaac by a prophetical Spirit and infallible blessed Iacob but he mistook in the person whom he blessed he thought it had been Esau the infallible Spirit did not guide him there to know Jacob but he erred as to his owne purpose Samuel went to anoint David by an infallible Spirit but he mistook in Eliab So Nathan a Prophet but he mistook in his counsell to David about the Temple building Then why the Spirit should so teach every Minister that in no point whatever he should mistake so long as in nothing that concern the salvation of his people I know not Much more might be gathered out of their Books whereby it may appear by what spirit these Quakers are led truely by Satan scarce transformed into an Angel of Light And now to you who are my people and have chosen me to be your Officer having thus opened the wickednesse of this Sect I exhort you to beware of them for you who have understanding so as you are able to oppose them I doe not fear your going to hear them or conferring with them they are scarce men in reason for you who are of the weaker sort I exhort you again come not neer them so much as to hear them since warning is given what they are but if you will doe it know assuredly the Church will proceed against you for so doing as for any other sinne FINIS A Minister now in Essex gave this Narration to a friend of mine written with his own hand and his name to it the Copie is true that I here offer to the Reader The 8th Moneth 19th day 1654. AT the earnest desire of some friends I went with John Ward and Anthony Hunter to a meeting of the deluded souls called Quakers at John Hunters of Benfield-side in the County of Durham where we found about twenty persons sitting all silent after we had sate awhile all being mute the Lord moved me to arise and call upon his name by prayer I was no sooner up but my leggs trembled greatly so that it was some difficulty to stand but after I had prayed a short space the trembling ceased while I prayed to GOD as a Creatour there was but little disturbance but when I cryed in the name of JESUS CHRIST my Mediatour God in my nature now in the highest glory appearing and interceding for his Saints then the Devil roared in the deceived soules in most strange and dreadfull manner some howling some screeking yelling roaring and some had a strange confused kinde of humming singing noise Such a representation of Hell I never heard of nothing but horror and confusion After I had done praying not opening my eyes before I was amazed to see about the one halfe of those miserable creatures so terribly shaken with such strange violent various motions that I wondred how it was possible some of them could live In the midst of this confusion one of them asked if I were come to torment them To whom I applyed this word Mat. 8.29 And while I spake something of Faith they declared that they were come to the faith of Devils Jam. 2.19 but said we were not attained to such a faith After two houres as we were departing out of the house one of them cursed me with these words All the plagues of God be upon thee Whereupon I returned and prayed for such of them as had not committed the unpardonable sinne Thus farre this Minister Lately in a Town neer me when the Quakers were met together there appeared one amongst them in such a shape as caused them to break up their meeting with no small trouble to divers of them I cannot learne the perfect manner for the Quakers will not reveale it onely so much some of them have affirmed and I will not publish more than I am certaine of I wish it may turn to their good
answer fully applying what he faith to the Objection thus So we the Quakers having the infallible spirit which gave these commands dâ—e by the same seeing you abuse them without scripture take them away Now your answer is complete But First I say those carnall things as you call them are so spirituall that all the perfection the Quakers brag of will not be sufficient to perform one of them in the holy manner the letter as you call the Word requires Secondly You talke of the Infallible spirit but you have not given us the signes of it as Paul did 2 Cor. 12.12 nay the Satanicall spirit by which you are acted hath not given you so much wit to caâ—ry your selves cunningly but you doe so manifestly crosse Christ and the Apostles that people must throw away their Bibles and naturall Light before they can believe you Thirdly You mistake in the brazen Serpent for it was not ordained as a means of worship in the Church but onely for the time while Serpents stung them in the Wildernesse they were to look to it typifying Christ but when they were past Serpents in Canaan there was no use of it yet Hezekiah wanted no meanes whereby he might certainly know the minde of God Fourthly The worship then instituted was not taken away because abused but because the Ceremoniall part was fulfilled Fiftly Jesus Christ the Lord of the Church may institute what means of worship he pleaseth his Apostles did converse with him fourty dayes after his resurrection Acts 1.3 speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdome of God They had order what to doe but I hardly think the Quakers were there then with him and heard that doctrine they teach us Sixtly Then the Spirit of God teach us to deny God that which he hath had since the world began viz Externall worship for prayer sacrifices and the teaching of the family by the Father of the family these parts of worship we finde at the beginning after that more But now God must have none at all how shall we know there is a God in the world if we take away his worship Seventhly Christ must then be a great destroyer of the Law and not a fulfiller Mat. 5.17 for he must quite blot out the second Commandment as the fourth and fifth by these Quakers Eighthly The right performing of the worship of God will cost pains and exercise of graces but the spirit in the Quakers have taken them off from that burden Conclusion Since then the Quakers Light destroy the Ordinances of Christ hence I conclude their Light is the light of Satan not of Christ Argum 7 Major That Light denyeth a great work of Christ in the hearts of them who believe in him that is the light of Satan not of Christ Minor But so doe the Quakers light Ergo. The Major is so clear that it needs no proof for to deny a a saving work a great part of his redemption this cannot come from Christ Minor But the Quakers light denyeth a great worke of Christ in the hearts of them who believe I mean such a work as must necessarily be in all such that is a worke of inherent holinesse the new creature distinct from Christ's person and from his imputed righteousnesse to our Justification The Quakers in these Books I have have spoken confusedly and covertly yet this must be their doctrine or some other notion being Christed with Christ Godded with God which I verily think they ayme at Naylor Saluta p. 20. hath these words But say you this is that righteousnesse we believe in and by which we are justified by that blood which was shed at Jerusalem and by that obedience that was in him and by that holinesse but that the want of his righteousnesse in us or that want of Christ or his blood in us can hinder our Justification that we deny and look upon it as heresie it is Christ without us that hath satisfied for sinne his righteousnesse faith patience love obedience c. it s these without us that whoever believes in shall be saved and by this faith the ungodly is justified Pag. 23. We can doe nothing neither doe we desire to doe any thing yet can we doe all things that he wills through him that is in us Pag. 2. While you live sinne lives and if we say we have no sinne we deceive our selves this is well but where he alone lives there is no sinne c. I deny not but we are justified by the righteousnesse satisfaction of Christ without us as opposed to Inherency in us But I utterly deny that God ever imputes that righteousnesse to us but withall he works inherent righteousnesse in us so as no man can be in a state of Justification or shall ever see God who hath not this inherent work of holinesse in him Heb. 12.14 I deny also that a person whom the Lord actually justifieth is an ungodly person in that instant its true he is ungodly if you compare him with the Covenant of works he is a transgressor of it which is the scope of the Apostle in the Rom. 3.4 Rom. 3.4 To cut all men off from seeking life in that Covenant and to bring them to the righteousnesse of Christ but look on him in reference to the Covenant of grace he is now a believer or else he cannot be justified and such a believer as hath received Christ to Union and now trusts to Christ for Communion of benefits whereof justification is one He that prates of his justification before this Faith he doth but prate of that which he shall never finde That absurd notion of faith justifying onely Declarative I would have opposed had this place been convenient I affirme also that the work of inherent holinesse which maketh us new Creatures is a distinct thing from Christ his person though among our New-England notions this was received when the errours raged there that Christ was the new Creature but for the 2 Cor. 5.17 they made miserable Grammar of the verse undertaking to be the Interpreters of the Originall read it thus if any man be in Christ the new Creature and thus indeed Christ being perfect no wonder though the Quakers are perfect for there is nothing in them but Christ And thus we see the meaning of that which we have so wondered at that men and women who could not tell how to live honestly among men keep promises keep from pilfering deale justly no nor can scarce doe it at this day since these Quakers came are on a sudden mounted aloft and tell others they are perfect No wonder for if Christ be the new Creature the new Creature then cannot grow for Christ cannot be more perfect then he is I affirme also that those who desine to doe nothing as saith Naylor they are not in Christ if we speak of adulti Rom. 7.21 and their wills are renewed I know not what to make of that phrase While you live sin live to take it