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A44799 The mouth of the pit stopped and the smoke that hath arisen out of it scattered by the breath of truth in answer to a lying story called Hell broken loose, or, The history of the Quakers, published by Thomas Underhill, a seller of the whores merchandize otherwise called a book-seller : his lyes returned upon him, his accusations answered and his envie decleared and truth cleared from all his reproaches / by one that waits to see death and hell cast into the lake of fire, with the beast and false-prophet, Francis Howgil. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing H3172; ESTC R6601 19,385 26

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reason to curse the Magistrates from morning to night because that allowance was granted unto any to worship God in spirit and Truth who could not be subject to their traditional uniformity and thou tells the Army in thy Epistle that ruine is like to come upon all Religion and Piety if God prevent it not by you or some other way they may see what Religion thou art of and what God thou trusts in and what piety thou art for which may be rather called irreligious and impious the Government of Religion and piety lies upon the shoulders of him who is a wonderful Councellor and mighty to save and able to defend them that are subject unto him would thou have the Souldiers or any others intrude themselves into Christs Throne unto whom all power is committed both to make Religious and preserve pious them that do believe in him this were to derogate from the honour and power which belongs to Christ who is head of the Church who will not give his glory to another and let all take notice of this that whosoever hath sought to take the honour from him and glory from him he hath laid their honour is the dust and their glory is become as the moth-eaten garment as hitherto it hath been evident and thou tells them they know the Scripture is Gods written Word and a holy perfect rule of faith and practice and that it holds out that Christ is now in his humane glorified body in Heaven If thou hadst said the Scripture is the Words of God written thou hadst said something for the Word of God is one thing and the words is another though the words are a Testimony of the Word and the Word and the Spirit which is one which gave forth the words are the perfect rule and foundation of faith which was before the words and is greater then the words as we have often declared to thy dearest generation though they would not hear and where doth the Scripture hold forth a humane glorified body in Heaven thy deceit and ignorant mind holds out a humane glorified body we say according to the Scriptures that Christs body is spiritual and he is raised a spiritual body and is glorified in a spiritual body and in a Heavenly body which thou never knew neither art like while the nature lives in thee in which thou now stands And thou saith in thy Epistle that one day in seventh should be set apart for rational souls to mind the things of Eternity And which is that day that thou wilt set apart some of Babylons Merchants have cryed up one day and some have cryed up another day and some have called the seventh day the Sabbath and some have called the first day the Sabbath and whether was Sabbaths made for man or man for Sabbaths and whether was dayes made for man or man made for dayes all time is in the hand of the Lord and they that have Communion with him do mind the things of Eternity every day and so they come to know the day of the Lord in which rest is given to the soul and the creature hath rest though he labour in the Creation when that is done away in himself which hath opprest thou may go learn what this means In thy post-script as thou calls it thou saith if any shall take offence for thy seeking to civil or Military Power to support Religion thy defence is and thy belief is that thou ought to seek to the higher powers to support Religion and this is the Liberty of thy conscience and that this thou may do more acceptably then they who cross their own profest opinion as they have done of late years by motions Councels books and Papers which they have delivered for these many years for the pulling down the Ministry and steeple-houses and that their importuning the Magistrate to pull down Ministry and worship is a yielding of the cause I say thy belief is without the true foundation and so many properly be called unbelief and thou errs in thy judgement who seekes to civil or Military power to uphold Religion which as I said before belongs to him who is the higher and highest power Civil and Military Officers are not for making Religion or setting up Religion but are to keep the Peace and to stop the violent doer and to be a terror to evil works and workers and a praise to them that do well and that is their place to govern in righteousness but not to exercise Lordship over the conscience which power belongs onely to Christ and as for them who have delivered Books and Papers and words and writings to them who were in Authority to pull down the Ministry and Steeple-houses or publike Ministry and worship if thou intend the Quakers as I believe thou dost thy arrowes being shot onely at them we have delivered or caused to be delivered divers Books and Papers wherein we have shewed them the grievous suffering of the People of God by the heavy oppressions which they did suffer under because of the hirelings wages and upholding of Mass-houses things which hath been introduced since the Primitive times in the Apostacy which aforesaid things hath been guarded and upheld by Lawes made in the Beasts power now to make null those Lawes which were the ground of many oppressions and an offence to many tender Consciences this is not to pull down Religion and that Ministry which can be pul'd down by taking away of Tythes and forced maintenance is no Ministry of Christ but Ministers of Antichrist and to deny paying to Steeple-houses Clark wages burying for the dead and such other like invented things which many hath groaned under is not to pull down Religion for this I say to thee and that which I can say to all which no reasonable or equitable man will deny to be equitable or just take the hireling Ministry to thee and give him the fifth part of thy estate if thou wilt and erect thy Steeple-house like Babels Tower but trouble not us with none of these things and for declaring to the Magistrates that these things ought to be done away and the Law by which they stood which was made in transgression ought to be taken away this is not to pull down the Ministry nor true Religion but to overturn deceit and Innovation which hath obstructed and hindered pure Reformation which hath been talkt on for these are but the rotten raggs of the Whores Menstruous garment so thy defence is made void and ours standeth true that the Magistrate or Military power hath nothing to do to prescribe any form of Religion to bind all unto for this is an intruding into those things that belongs not to them Thou saith that thou dost freely and sincerely affirm that thou hast not knowingly wronged the Quakers in the least but doth engage thy self to mak● good every thing thou charges against them that shall require it of thee That we shall see afterwards how thou wilt