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A35008 An essay towards the allaying of George Fox his spirit Crisp, Thomas, 17th cent. 1695 (1695) Wing C6950; ESTC R24130 10,328 9

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God because says G. F. we own the Teachings of God by his spirit and light but J. T 's Reasons why he says they have broken the everlasting Covenant be these while you says he deny the Ordinances you are none of God's Saints but Apostates and broken the everlasting Covenant whereby its evident J. T. doth not say you have broken the everlasting Covenant because you own God's teaching by his spirit and light c. as G. F. falsly says but because you deny those Ordinances for J. T. doth in pag. 11. own the spirit is the Rule and in page 47. J. T. says I have owned that to the means must be added a divine hand in working effectually upon the Souls of Men and G. F. doth not only falsly quote the Man's Words but falsly Accuse him too Again G. F. brings in J. T. saying it s a contradiction and confused sensless thing to preach the Word of Faith in the Mouth and in the Heart but J. T 's words be these In your Answer you say none know the Scriptures by the outward Declaration but by the Word of Faith in the mouth and in the heart which we preach and then saith he I told you that was a sensless thing confused and contradiction and then J. T. says I quered you whether any of you know what is written in Scripture without the outward Declaration so that J. T. term'd it sensless c. to affirm none knew the Scriptures or what was wrote in them but by the word of Faith in the Mouth and Heart c. but he did not say it was sensless c. to preach the word of Faith within as G. F. falsly says Again in page 17. says G. F. I. T. says Its Blasphemy to say that Christ is in them as God and Man but J. T. words be these Its Blasphemy to say Christ in them by his Person as God and Man and to deny the glorified Body of Christ which God had raised from the dead as the Quakers do says J. T. but G. F. leaves out the material Words of J. T 's by his person and cut off from the sentence these following words of J. T 's and deny his glorified Person which God has raised from the dead as the Quakers do Also in the same 23d page J. T. says they make Christ's sufferings in them make satisfaction for their sins and call him a Christ without a Type a Figure also in page 4. of his Preface J. T. charges them with saying They are as perfect as Christ that died at Jerusalem and that they which trust in him for Salvation shall be deceived but G. F. takes no notice of all this but wrongs the Man's words and sense by leaving out the middle words and cutting off the latter part of his sentence and by opposing J. T. he G. F. seems to own no other personal Christ but what is in them and thereby denies our Lord Jesus of Nazareth to be Christ for he as God and Man in one person cannot be in them and it is such a Man Christ such Blood and such Sufferings of Christ as is in them that G. F. means when he mention'd Christ or his Blood and Sufferings c. as further appears by his Answer to those afore-cited words of J. T. says G. F. How are they of his Flesh and Bone and doth not the Scripture say that Christ in you God will dwell in you and walk in you and are they not partakers of divine Nature therefore it seems by G. F's Doctrine that Christ had no other Person Flesh bone nor Blood that was Christ's but what was in them and that him whom shewed himself to his Disciples and bid them feel and handle him saying a Spirit hath not Flesh and Bone as I have is not G. F's Christ but a Person God and Man in him and our Lord Jesus of Nazareth but a Vessel or Garment in which Christ appeared in but I can think these Doctrines of G. F. no less than denying the Lord that bought them and trampling under foot the blood of Christ Again page 17. G. F. says that J. T. saith its abhorred Dotage they are bewitched with to say they witness Forgiveness within but J. T 's words be thus Doth Christ saith he undergo the stripes of a just God and shed his Blood for our Redemption and Forgiveness within you what abhorred Dotage are you bewitched with Here J. T 's sentence is twenty six words and G. F. culls out six of them and transposes them to make a sentence contrary to J. T 's meaning for its the Sufferings of Christ being acted within them for our Redemption that he opposes but G. F. contrarywise represents him as denying having the Witness of Forgiveness within as G. F's answer also shews for saith he to J. T. thou never knew a Saints life and that which cleanseth and the Testimony within of forgiveness of Sin for where it s forgiven it s forgiven within in this G. F. perverts the Man's words and falsly accuses him Again G. F. brings J. T. saying None ever had such Attainments of Christ a Redeemer without the help of Scripture Now J. T 's words be these pages 65 66. saith he Themselves are no strangers to those Scriptures that give such Discoveries of the Person Natures and Offices of a redeeming Christ that never any have attained unto and discovered either by Words or Writings which never had nor heard of the help of the Gospel as contained in the Scripture here J. T 's sentence is 48 Words and G. F. takes but 8 of them dodging from one place to another perverting them Again page 18. G. F. brings J. T. saying Where did ever any say they went through the Law to Christ they be strangers to the Life of God that say so but J. T. says thus Must a sinner go through the Law in perfect Obedience until nothing remains to oblige him further and is this the way to Christ in whom is Justification only witnessed whether I or you be aleniated from the Life of God as you censure me let the sober judge Here J. T 's sentence is above 40 words and G. F. takes but 10 of them and transposes them also and its the attaining salvation through or by our Obedience or fulfilling the Law in our selves that J. T. is against and G. F. opposes him perverting his Words Again G. F. brings J. T. saying Christ Jesus was not in all Ages and Places of the World but G. F. dishonestly cuts off from his sentence these following Words In his Person Ministry and powerful Workings visibly herein G. F. is guilty of mangling and cutting in two the Man's sentence as well as perverting his sence Again page 19. G. F. brings J. T. saying he knows not what the true Light eternal Word the everlasting Gospel the Light which gave forth the Scriptures the Judge of the World the Kingdom of Heaven within the Law of the New Covenant and
Christ within these says G. F. he knows not but in p. 84. J. T. having reckoned up all these afore-named Titles that they give to the Light within them then J. T. adds these words And I know not what that is he knew not what more Titles they dignifie the Light within with and not as G. F. falsly says he does not know what those aforementioned things were Again p. 246. G. F. brings C. Wade saying O horrible to say the infallible Spirit must open the Scripture but C. W. speaking of the Pope c. taking on them to open scriptures and says C. W. The Quakers differ not much for they say it must be some Spirit of or in them which they suppose to be infallible O horrible insolency doth T. M. hereby says C. W. deny the Spirit of God to give the sense of the Scriptures doth he not deny the falsle spirit in them to give the sense of Scriptures here C. W's sentence is 78 words and G. F. takes but six of them transposing them and perverting the sense Again p. 246. says G. F. its C. W's principle flesh and bone cannot be a measure in one and a measure in another But C. W. in his 7th says thus Christ spiritualized and glorified Person of real Flesh and Bone cannot be part thereof in one Man and the other part of his real flesh and bone in other Men as you falsly imply although by his spiritual influences he is in all his Saints Now C. W.'s sentence is 42 words and G. F. takes but 8 of of them and transposes them and by opposing C. W. do deny Christ to have or had any flesh or bone as his but what they have in them Again G. F. says C. W. cries O Luceferian pride to save Souls But C. W's words be to one J. Milner to whom he says Thou by thy Luceferian pride to save Souls as Christ did thou must come under the Lash Now here 's C. W's own Answer to G. F. in print says he I do no where say so as thou lyingly affirms but do in my 8th page accuse J. Milner Quaker with Luceferian pride because he pretended to be Christ and audaciously took on him to save Souls as Christ did and his Blood was shed and that he gave up the Ghost as Christ did and says C. W. I no where accuse any Quakers of saving Souls but as they pretend to be Christ and apply to themselves his Titles to save Souls and says C. W. to G. F. This must stand up as a Lie against you Again p. 246. G. F. brings C. W. saying God the Father never took on him Human Nature but C. W's Words be thus God the Father who is and ever was totally spiritual never took on him any person of Human Nature as God the Son hath done Now C. W's sentence is 26 Words and G. F. takes but 10 of them and by opposing of C. W. do imply no difference between the Person of Jesus Christ and God the Father and so Christ no more or otherwise a Man but as God the Father was and so consequently if our Lord Jesus of Nazareth was not God the Father he was not Christ Again p. 246. G. F. says to C. W. the Scriptures are not the Word of God as thou blasphemously affirmed but in C. W's sense the Scriptures may be termed the Word of God for says he they are the Word or Words of Christ who is God but saith C. W. p. 13 14. we do not expect to be taught by the Letter of the Scripture written with Ink and Paper but by the spirit of Christ therewith and this might have satisfied a Christian that C. W. did not intend the Scriptures the Word of God as Christ is but one would think by G. F's niceness herein that he were a consciencious humble Man but his Fruits proves him otherwise for in three several places in this Book says he This is the Word of the Lord pages 123. 211. 225. and on a silly idle pamphlet-sheet of his own he clapt on the Title-page This is the Word of the Lord God unto you all Luceferian-like exalting himself Again page 247. G. F. brings C. W. saying God limiteth the supreme holy One by his inspired Writings of the Apostles but C. W's Words and Sense are quite contrary to G. F. for in page 13. says he As the Devil of old he over-powers you Quakers to deny the Scriptures to be any help and as he thereby limits the supreme holy One so he over-rules you c. In this G. F. is guilty of no less Errour then applying GOD's Name to the Devil and it may be he has been so mistaken in his pretences to the Infallible Spirit Again p. 247. G. F. brings C. W. saying the Scripture contains the immediate inspired Teaching Written Word of God that was and is God C. W's words being in page 16. The very Letter of the New Testament or Gospel contains in it the immediate inspired teaching and written Word of Christ who was and is God Now of his 26 Words G. F. takes but 12 and change his words New Testament for Scripture and Christ for God so representing C. W. as terming the New Testament God whereas C. W. says Christ who was and is God but of such Falsehoods this Book of G. F's is full of Again 247. G. F. brings C. W. saying It s a Lye to say the Saints shall judge the World but in page 21. C. W. says Thy saying not that thou shalt be but that thou art the Judge of the world is a Lye for no Saint can be a Judge of the World during this their Life of Mortality Hereby G. F. does not only falsly accuse C. W. but implys that they Quakers are the Judges of the World Again p. 248. G. F. says that C. W. denies the Son to be revealed in Man only by Adoption but C. W. says in p. 24 The Saints are not God's Sons any otherway but by Adoption only by Christ not as being Christ as you foolishly fancy so that its evident C. W. did not deny the Revelation of Christ in Man as G. F. falsly says but their being Sons as Christ Again G. F. says that C. W. cries against Equality with the Father but pray hear what Equality it is that C. W. does oppose in page 24 says C. W. Creature adopted Sons cannot be equal with the heavenly uncreated Father neither can any creature adopted Sons be equal with God's only begotten Son and by thy making no reserve or distinction says C. W. in thy pretended Equality with God shews that thou art a Lyer and G. F. by opposing C. W. doth claim Equality with the Father Again page 248. G. F. brings C. W. saying it is a false thing to say Christ's person is in Man but C. W's words be page 25. Christ's Person in them God and Man but them words God and Man G. F. leaves out Again page 248. G. F. says C. W. calls it Satanical to say as he is so are we in this World In page 26. C. W. says They Quakers do declare themselves to be totally without Sin as Christ is Satanically perverting that Scripture and affirm That they are without Sin in them as some of them have said in my hearing of themselves Again page 249 G. F. brings C. W. saying no People on Earth go about to save Souls but the Quakers C. W's words in page 32 Where is to be found any People as the Quakers in a false way do declare themselves to be Christ and do apply to themselves Christ's Titles and take on them to save Souls Again G. F. brings C. W. saying There is not whole Christ God and Man in Man G. F. mangles this Sentence by cutting off the latter part of C. W's words By his Spirit by faith All these false and short Quotations pervertions and Untruths aforementioned of G. F's considered it may be said of him more truly than as W. P. Many have done wickedly but thou dear George excelleth them all LONDON Printed for T. C. and sold by John Gwillim Bookseller within Bishopgat● 1695.
An Essay towards the Allaying of George Fox his Spirit CHristian Friend I desire that my Imperfections nor these Quakers revilings may not prejudice thee against the impartial and serious reading of this Discovery for they cannot represent me a greater sinner than I thank God I think my self to be but they by their villifying of me shew the weakness of their cause and the wickedness of their spirits for the controversy between us is not what T. C. is but whether or no G. Fox c. have printed so as I charge them and whether or no those Expressions objected against by me be not unchristian and contemptable if they be not then I have wronged them but if they be the product of Ignorance or worse then the Authors thereof were false Prophets Diviners and Conjurers by G. Fox's own judgment in print I desire you only to judge of the Tree by its fruit and remember that altho' the poor Ass was beat by the mad angry and covetous Prophet yet the poor Ass saw the Angel when he did not These Quakers charge me for short quoting of G. F's words of which fault G. F. is herein proved grosly guilty My charge was not on the Quakers in general but particular Persons which I distinguished from christian Quakers by the Term of Foxonian Quakers but others by covering and justifying the wicked have made themselves guilty and this Discovery is not uncovering of Nakedness but warranted by their own practice and in print This is not in Answer to the High Priest's Servant Ed. Pennington AS is said in Acts. 8. so it hath been in these days there was a Man called G. Fox into whom a Spirit entred giving out that himself was some great One to whom most of the Quakers gave heed saying This is the great power of God and having in his life and also since his death extolled this G. Fox above what they ought W. P. especially saying Many have done well but thou Dear George excellest them all but it was in self-exalting and abusing others and having contemned Water-baptisme Lord's Supper and the Scriptures he invents an Image of Female-prelates in their Church and these his chief Priests make an Idol thereof and deck it with high Titles as the great and good Ordinances of Jesus Christ which he hath set up in his Church and he G. F. says to these Women when so met by his Order about the 10th hour of the day G. F. saith whose mouth the Lord opens in the Womens meeting to praise him they are to be obedient as if the Lords opening their mouths were not sufficient without his license and of this Image they have in print also since his death with other of his Appointments said You know Friends that all the meetings mens and Womens c. were set up by the Power Spirit and wisdom of God so indespensable Duties as they say in the room of them two Water-baptisme and the Lord's supper I considering the evil consequences of these things and knowing by the rule given in Scripture viz. That the Tree may be known by its fruit that this Spirit of theirs is not of Christ but that Man of Sin who exalteth himself above all that is called God c. I say these considerations me to discover ●o others the fruits of the Spirit of G. F. in hopes that many amongst them who be honest would condemn those Wickednessess and so clear themselves thereof for indeed although they charge me with Envy c. God knows its false for they are to me many of them as St. Paul saith the Jews were to him and I never had any prejudice against any of them but know they exalted themselves too much and despised others as the proud Pharisees excusing their Contempts of our Lord Jesus of Nazareth his sufferings and blood and the Scriptures Magistrates and almost all Christians ever since the Apostles to the worlds end except themselves and this I have in print proved and in this and other their wickedness they are uncharitable and unchristian and scandalous to the protestant Religion especially England and if they do own the true Faith and Scriptures and our Lord Jesus of Nazareth truly they must condemn and disown them printed Expressions tending to the contrary for the Matter in controversy is not what thy now say they believe but about what is in print from G. Fox and others their chief Rulers and Teachers whom they give these high Titles to and write such Epistles and high Commendations of them and their Writings as will more fully be made appear W. P. and many more of them have done of and to G. Fox and others considering W. P's great power in Pensilvania and great interest in all the Quakers in England and elsewhere and influence over them I think they may be 100000 and 1000 of them preachers and may have 1000 Meetings in England Scotland Ireland and Wales and I fear W. P's influences 80000 of them so that what Interest Doctrine or Men he espouses is most likely to prevail Experience have proved the truth of this but they are but sowing their Seed now but the full Crop and effect of these their evil Labours may not be known in this Age and indeed many of their printed Expressions are so contemptious of our Lord Jesus of Nazareth that the Jews or Mahometans may from them take great advantages to deny the New Testament in part saying Your new Testament says That him whom our Rulers killed was the Saviour and that they by wicked hands slew him but the Quakers says what was done to him was done by Law and in a great part by due execution of a Law also they say the Jews never see the World's Saviour your New Testament says that Jesus with his own blood shed without the gate sanctifies the People but these Quakers say his Blood was no more than the Blood of another Saint Excused by G. W. as in G. K's paper Their Scripture accuse our Rulers for cruelty to Jesus of Nazareth and his Disciples when as you are more cruel to them as they say and these Quakers say His Disciples loved his person for the sake of the frame and quality of the Spirit that dwelt in him or else what is his person more than another person But our Rulers did not condemn him for saying the Son of God was in his prepared Body but because he said of himself he was the Son of God for they meddled with nothing in that body only a Soldier with his sphere let out some of his blood which these Quakers say was no more than the blood of another Saint therefore your New Testament seems by these their printed Doctrines to charge our Rulers too hardly in saying of him whom they took down from the Tree and laid in the Sepulchre That through this Man his preaching Remission of Sins and that by him all that believe are justified but by their Doctrine it seems to us that Man