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A28667 A publick tryal of the Quakers in Barmudas [sic] upon the first day of May, 1678 by Samson Bond, late the preacher of the Gospel in Barmudas. Bond, Samson. 1682 (1682) Wing B3585; ESTC R29047 105,090 110

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Walking sc Zecharias and Elizabeth ' his Wife ver 5. in all the Commandments and Ordinances of the Lord blameless here the Quakers think they are perfect Saints Reply The word Blameless doth not as the Quakers would have it signifie Sinless before the Lord but Rebukeless before men in this World no man can be so blameless as to be sinless in the sight of God 't is true we read Numb 23. 21. He hath not seen iniquity in Jacob that is not with an eye of revenge but pity God saw iniquity in Jacob his people but not so as to destroy them which was the unwearied design desire of Balack the Princes of Moab ver 17. in which sense the not seeing of iniquity in Jacob is only meant Indeed at the glorious second coming of the Lords Christ then the persons of the just shall be sinlesly blameless before the Lord as in 1 Cor. 1. ● That ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ in that day of Christs coming in glory the Saints shall be found of God in peace without spot and blameless 1 Pet. 3 4 14. but not thus in this life nevertheless I willingly grant that Believers may walk in all the Commandments and Ordinances of the Lord blameless that is to say rebukeless in regard of Men this is verified by the Apostle Phil. 2. 15. That ye may be blameless and harmless the Sons of God without rebuke in the midst of a crooked and perverse Nation among whom ye shine as lights in the World in which sense alone Zecharias and his Wi●e Elizabeth were blameless for Zecharias was so far from being perfect without sin that he was found at the very time that the words above were uttered of him guilty of the great sin of Vnbelief and for it was punished with dumbness Luk. 1. 20. Behold thou shalt be dumb and not able to speak until the day that these things shall be performed because thou dost not believe my words Obj. Here the Quaker will be apt to say But there is no sin charged upon Elizabeth so that she might be perfect without sin Ans 1. The phrase Blameless on which the Quaker puts his whole stress may refer to an Unbeliever yea to a persecutor of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Phil. 3. 6. Touching the righteousness which is in the Law Blameless even then when Paul was graceless he was blameless this I have only noted by way that Teaching Quakers may plainly see that the word Blameless simply in its own nature will be so far from proving perfection of Grace that it will not prove any truth of Grace 2. It will not therefore follow that Elizabeth was perfect without sin because there is no mention made of her sin let it be well observed that in the 6th verse above They are both said to be righteous and blameless even then when the best of them both was guilty of actual sin now if the expressions of Righteous and Blameless were applicable to Zecharias when he was under sin then the same expressions sc of Righteous and Blameless will not argue her to be more free from sin then her Husband there being the same reason for the one as for the other to deny this were to destroy the rules of right reasoning besides death took hold of her as well as of him which is the wages of sin Rom. 6. 23. 3. If the Term Blameless should prove Zecharias and Elizabeth in their life time sinless or perfect without sin it would prove the Scriptures of God sinful which to assert were Blasphemy for the Holy Scriptures do utterly deny such a blamelesness or freedome from sin in Mortals As in Eccless 7. 20. For there is not a just man upon the Earth that doth good and sinneth not that is that sinneth not in doing good the Spirit doth say simply that there is not a just man that sinneth not but a just man that doth good and sinneth not intimating that in our most religious Actions there is some mixture of sin hence the Prophet Isai 64. 6. That all our Righteousness is as filthy rags Noting to us that no righteous work of ours is so pure but there is some taint and filth of sin cleaving to it which without a Mediator in the rigor of the Law would be damnable so then though the action as to the matter be not sinful yet there is some sin in the Action this difference is exprest Exod. 28. 38 where the High-Priest is said to bear the iniquity of the holy things holy things in the matter of them yet iniquity in the manner of performing them Rom. 7. 18. How to perform that which is good I find not here hence it is that we read 1 King 8 46. If they sin against thee for there is no man that sinneth not and again 2 Chron. 6. 36. For there is no man that sinneth not whence the Apostle James Chap. 3. 2. For in many things we offend all he saith We including himself though an eminent Saint and an Apostle of great holiness All of us offend in many things and many of us in all things likewise our blessed Lord and only Saviour teacheth the choicest of Gods Children to pray unto their Father in Heaven for dayly and continual pardon of sin Mat. 6 12. There is in all true Believers a cursed root of bitterness which God doth mortifie but not nullifie in this World 't is subdued but not removed 't is cast down but not cast out though Grace makes the combat yet death only makes the conquest over sin I proceed to the Quakers Second Principle To wit That the written Scriptures are not 1. The Word of God 2. Nor the infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life Reply 1. VVhereas they say The written Scriptures are not the Word of God if thereby they mean the Scriptures as expressed by humane tongues or as written or printed with ink and paper by the art of the VVriter or Printer if so considered we do not affirm the Scriptures to be the VVord of God But as the Written Scriptures do declare the mind of God to us so the matter therein contained is the declarative VVord of God as in Heb. 1 2. God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in times past unto the Fathers by the Prophets hath in these last dayes spoken to us by his Son Qu. What hath the Son of God spoken touching the Scriptures Ans He tells us that the Scripture is the VVord of God Mark 7. 13. Making the Word of God of none effect Here the Son of God calls the fifth Commandment in the written Scriptures the VVord of God and in Iohn 2. 22. They believed the Scripture the word which Jesus had said Also Ioh. 10. 34 35. And Jesus answered them It is written in your Law I said ye are Gods if he called them Gods unto whom the word of God came and the Scripture cannot be broken Note in these Texts
our Lord and only Saviour Jesus Christ the Son of God affirms that the VVord of God is the Scripture and that the Scripture is the VVord of God as being convertible terms that is what is truely and properly spoken of the one is also spoken of the other for so it is with all propositions convertible Moreover 2 Tim. 3. 16. All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in Righteousness that is in the Righteousness both of Faith and Life And therefore as the Scripture is the VVord of God so likewise it is the infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life It being evidently so I need not stay to shew you the excellency of any part of the Scripture having pointed you at such an original of the whole which adviseth you seriously to consider what the Lord speaks to all such as they are we read Numb 15. 30. The Soul that doth ought presumptuously whether he be born in the Land or a stranger the same reproacheth the Lord O how highly do you Teaching Quakers reproach the Lord when you deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God that Soul shall be cut off from the peeple but mark the ground and reason of it Because he hath despised the Word of God ver 31. and hath broken his Commandments Note here that the Lord concludes his word and written Commandments to be one and the same thing and thereupon the Lord passeth this heavy Sentence That Soul shall be utterly cut off his iniquity shall be upon him i. e. It shall never be forgiven him except God in mercy grant repentance for and from these dead works O ye Quakers are you not herein worse then the Egyptian Heathens for they believed the Word spoken to them by Moses to be the Word of God Exod. 9. 20. He that feared the Word of the Lord amongst the Servants of Pharaoh made his Servants and his Cattle to flie into the Houses howbeit they will think themselves either wronged or feared if their Arguments be not considered 1. Argument That which is the Word of God dwells within Col. 3. 16. Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdome whereas that which you meaning Christians call the word is the Scripture without Reply 1. Is there any word asserted to be the word of Christ but the written word of Truth whereof Christ is both the Author and Subject if there be when it shall be shewen it will be considered 2 The very phrase Let the Word of Christ dwell in you denotes that the Apostles words are an Exhortation to get the Matter contained in the very Letter of the word of Christ that it might dwell richly in them getting heart acquaintance with the matter contained in the letter of the word of Christ and that richly sc still increasing therein that they might thereby be the better enabled in the use of the duties of Teaching Admonishing and Singing of Psalms in heart and voice as it s expressed and implied in the same 16th verse 3. Those duties and services of Teaching Admonishing and Singing of Psalms which are Spiritual Hymns or Songs were to be done to the Lord as in the same 16th verse that is to the glory of the Lord Now there are no Duties and holy Services done thus to the Lord which are not done in obedience to his Will but the Lord hath no other will as a Rule of obedience then his Will revealed in the written Scriptures There is nothing that doth please God in any act of Worship unless he sees himself obeyed hence I may safely infer that the Quakers Worship cannot be accepted of God because it is not only without but against the revealed Will and Rule of Obedience This cannot with any Truth be gainsayed or denied 1. Arg. The Written Scripture cannot be the Word of God because it consists of Words Reply 1. This Argument proves fully that the Quakers are under the power of Satan Act. 26. 11. grosly blind in and ignorant of the inspired word of Christ for in Scripture Language Word and Words are of the same signification as for instance Jer. 15. 16. thy Words were sound and thy Word was unto me Jer. 36. 1 2. This Word came write the Words Amos 8. 11 12. hearing the Words seek the Word Numb 15. 30. the Spirit calls the Commandments of God consisting of many Words the Word of God and the many Words which God Commanded Moses to speak to the Egyptians Exod. 9. 20. is there called the Word of the Lord Likewise our Saviour Ioh. 2. 22. calls the Scripture co●taining many Words and so also in Ioh. 10. 35. to these places of Scripture many more might were there any need be added shewing that Word in the singular and Words in the plural are synonimous and of the same import in the Holy Scriptures and therefore the cavil is idle and vain I pass to the second part of this Principle viz. That the written Scriptures are not the infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life 2. Reply This plainly argues an Evil and Vnbelieving heart in the revealed Truths of God and distructive as much as in them lies to the great end of Divine Inspirations For God purposely inspired holy men not so much for their own sakes as for this end that what they writ and spake from Gods inspiration in the Scripture might be the standing and infallible Rule for Faith and holiness of Life in all succeeding Ages and Generations and for this cause hath Paul recorded Rom. 15. 4. For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our Learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope Note That we the Apostle Paul includes himself for one that did learn of the Scriptures written afore-time as the only infallible Rule And thus was it also taken by our Lord Jesus Christ Luk. 16. 29 31. Chap. 24. 44 to 47. more especially in the hour of his Temptations he kept his mind close to the written Word of God the Scriptures penned by Moses Dan●st 16. to repel the Devil saying It is written Mat. 4. ver 4 ver 7 ver 10. with this sword of the Spirit three times as you see the Lord Jesus Christ wounds the Devil now doth the Lords Christ thus honour the written Scriptures who are ye then that dishonour the same Notwithstanding we will hear what they have by way of Argument to say for themselves concerning this matter Their 1. Argument The Scripture it self sends us to the Spirit for our Rule Gal. 5. 16. Therefore the written Scripture is not our rule of Faith and Life Reply The Apostle in this Text exhorts the Galatians to walk in the Spirit sc of Faith I have not as if Paul should have said forget my former discourse concerning Faith ver 5. nor do I declare it in perswading you to mutual love ver 14. and that he might be understood aright he
adds Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh for the spirit of Faith 2 Cor. 5. 13. Purifying the heart Act. 15. 9. doth by that means not only resist occasional prejudices or Lustful desires of revenge but begets also a composure of offences and a healing of injuries which are apt to arise from one Saint towards another hence the Apostle infers walk in the Spirit that is saith Calvin in loc be ye exercised therein wrestle in Spirit against all prejudicial returns of the flesh following the motions sayings and actings of the Rule of the Spirit which is the inspired word for 2 Pet. 1. 21. Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost and in so doing saith Calvin ye shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh i. e. of corrupt sinful nature as in the 16th ver above asserted surely then the Spirit of God doth not send us from the written rule to a Quakers Spirit their Idol Light within as the only infallible rule of Faith and Life 2. Arg. The Spirit was before the written Scriptures and therefore the Spirit in us ought to be our Rule for Faith and Life Reply We know that Seducing Quakers teach because the Spirit is anticedent to the Scriptures therefore none can walk in the Scriptures till they walk in the Spirit the Consequence is as lame as a Teaching Quaker is blind however it is granted that the Spirit is anticedent to the Scripture in respect of time or as to the revelation of the Scripture howbeit the Scriptures are before the Spirit in respect of aid assistance thus the Apostle 1 Pet. 1. 12. But unto us they did minister the things which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the Gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from Heaven which Text of Scripture clearly shews that the Holy Spirit in respect of special help and assistance is subsequent to the Scriptural Gospel Preached this receives further confirmation from the Prophet Isai 8. 20. To the Law and to the testimony the written word if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light or beam of the Spirit in them fairly intimating that the Spirits walk in a way of aid is in the paths of the Scriptures and consequently no Christians can walk in the Spirit unless he first walk in and by the Scriptures Again Joh. 7. 38. He that believeth on me as the Scripture hath said but this spake he of the Spirit ver ●9 sc of the power and help of the Spirit as subsequent to the Scriptures and in Luk. 5. 17. And as he Christ was Teaching the Power sc the Spirit of the Lord was present to heal them likewise Joh. 16. 13. When the Spirit of truth is come he will guid you into all truth that is into all Scripture Truth so then though the Spirit be anticedent to Scriptures in regard of Revelation yet in respect of aid help and assistance which is the matter in hand the Spirit is subsequent to the Scriptures and in this sense the Holy Scriptures are the infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life Rom. 1. 2. 2 Tim. 3. 15. 3d. Argument That there was a Rule of Faith and Life long before the Scriptures were written Therefore the written Scripture is not the Rule of Faith and Life Reply This Consequence also is weak and infirm it doth not therefore follow that the wr●tten Scripture is not our Rule because there was a Rule before the Scripture was written For this is that which we affirm sc That the matter contained in the Holy Scriptures is the only infallible standing Rule of Faith and Life which matter now contained in the written Scripture is the same with that which was before the Scriptures were written for when God revealed himself by visions Dreams c. It was still the s●me Gospel matter even the same that is expressed in the written word of the New-Testament There hath not been since the Gospel was Preached to Adam Gen. 3. 15. any increase of Gospel truths in respect of essentials but only in respect of explications though the manner of conveyance is different then and now yet the matter or Gospel Doctrines conveyed is still the same T is true from Adam to Moses more then 2000. years the People of God had no word written yet they had a word given from God to be their Rule else their Worship would have been like a Quakers Will worship A contrived or devised Worship to pacific or please God he could never bear with had not the Law of Sacrificing and the like been by Gods institution and appointment the Lord would have rejected it now though Sacrifices which typed out Christ were offered before the Law of Sacrificing was written yet not before the Law of Sacrificing was given for it was given from the beginning as all other parts of worship were being carried from one to another by tradition from the Fathers to the Children as in the holy stories of the Patriarchs it doth appear as it were from hand to hand till at last the La● was written and the Scriptures penned by Moses well then though the Rule they had before was not an institution written yet it was an institution sent forth given by God himself which Rule of Faith and Life then given was I say again as to the matter therein contained the same with the instituted Rule written now then all that ye Teaching Quakers have said is no more but this sc That you deny this way of written Scripture to have alwayes been the only way of Gospel-conveyance and from thence ye pretend to advance and extoll your unwritten Scrip●ure that Idol light within that thereby ye may the more craftily throw down the Scriptures inspired of God surely this Plot cannot be from the spirit of the true Christ but from your own as the Lord knows blind rotten and wicked spirit which tells you that you are no further bound to obey the written Scriptures then your Light that false Christ within shall make you willing to obey Arg. 4. That the Spirit is not to be tried by the Scriptures but the Scriptures are to be tried by the spirit therefore the spirit not the Scriptures is our standing Rule for Faith and Life Reply The Father of lies cannot make a greater lie then that which is contained in this Argument for it plainly makes the inspiring Spirit and the inspired Scripture to be of different natures which is contrary to the many Scriptures of truth afore asserted there 's not any Quaker that hath to this day produced one Text of Scripture to make good this Argument where is that place of Scripture to be found which saith the Scriptures are to be tried by the spirit doth not the spirit it self require us 1 John 4. 1. not to believe every spirit but to try not the Scriptures but the spirits i. e. spiritual
gifts whether they are of God And how did the noble Elders at Berea try the Spirit by which Paul Preached The 11th verse tells us It was by their searching of the Scriptures daily whether these things were so it being an Article of Faith with them that the written Scriptures were the Churches standing Rule for Faith and Life and therefore ver 12. Many of them believed sc That Jesus of Nazareth was the true Christ and their only Saviour surely the Elders above trying the spirit by the search of the Scriptures doth sufficiently prove that the spirits are to be tried by the Scripture and not the Scripture by the spirit the end of Gods inspiring the Scripture was that it might thereby be enabled to try the spirit the spirit is so far from questioning or trying the Scripture that it ever witnesseth for or against as the Scripture witnesseth being indited by the Holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1 21. for that end should the spirit of truth witness otherwise then according to the inspired Scripture that is to say if the spirit should witness one thing to be a truth in the Scripture and another thing contrary to it in a mans Conscience the spirit should be divided against it self it should be spirit of contradiction for instance the spirit witnesseth in the Scripture That the true Christ and our only Saviour was and is Jesus Christ of Nazareth a man approved of God who was taken by the Jews slain and hanged upon a Tree whom God raised from the dead the third day and exalted to be a Prince and Saviour Thus the spirit witnesseth in the Scriptures Act. 2. 22 23. Chap. 5. 30 31 34. But a Quaker pretends that the spirit witnesseth in his Conscience that there is a light within him which is the true Christ and only Saviour which is not the Man Jesus of Nazareth which the Jews never slew nor hanged upon a tree nor was ever raised by God from a bodily death Again The spirit witnesseth in the Scripture That he is a Righteous man who walketh in all the Commandments and Ordinances of the Lord Luk. 1. 16. But a Quaker pretends that the spirit witnesseth in his Conscience that he is a righteous man who forsakes all the commanded Ordinances of the Lord. Now should we Christians be so weak and wicked as to believe a Quakers pretended spirit in him to be the spirit of God and not of the Devil should we not then be guilty of this dreadful Blasphemy namely of maki●g the spirit of God a spirit divided against it self a spirit of contradiction teaching lies in the Scripture by witnessing therein the things ab●ve touching Jesus Christ and his Ordinances to be the truths and other things contrary to them for truths in a Quakers Conscience or as he calls it in his tender part this were to take strong damnable delusions for sacred and scriptural inspirations that inspiration which is either without the wri●ten word or against it is an hellish imposture indeed it s no marvel that the Teaching Quakers would have their spirit within that Idolized light to try the Scriptures not to be tried by them for if they migh● herein prevail and withal get into the sad●le they would undoubtedly soon Arraign Try and Condemn the inspired Bible of God to Fire and Faggot this conclusion may without breach of charity be grounded upon the scurrilous pens of some s●ducing Teaching Quakers whom In●ight herein with their bold expressions have declared hav●ng them by me but I feared the swelling of these confutations and the discouragement that might thereby be given to the Reader By the way I lay down this Caution to wi● though the holy and blessed spirit of God be above all tryal yet the ●are spirits even the spirits i. e. the spiritual gifts of all m●n which must be submitted to tryal whether they are of God i. e. of the Book of God 2 Cor. 34. 14. wherein there is not any speech or passage but the infinite wisdome of God hath thought fit to be recorded as that which hath in it somewhat for our instruction even the Blasphemy of the Fool which contradicts not only the truth but the very being of God which teacheth us this divine truth That there are seven that is all manner of Abominations in the heart of Man yea we may draw useful instructions from the words of Judas the Traitor after Satan had entred into him and filled his heart not only so but from the words of Satan in his temptations and proposals unto Christ much more may we from the sayings of Holy men which are all material truths from the inspiration of God and therefore fit to try the Spirits or gifts of all men as above which must be submitted to the tryal of the Scripture touch stone In the last place perhaps some Teaching Quakers may say sc We own the written Scripture as a witness-bearer or declarer of that light which is in Man Reply We deny the written Scripture to be a witness bearer to your Light within for if the Scriptures of God should bear witness to that gross piece of foolery call'd Light within it should witness it self to be no word of God For 1. Your Idol Light within saith that the Soul of a Man is part of God and no created substance This will be debated in the next Head 2. That the Light that is in every man by natural generation is the true Christ and only Saviour 3. That the Sacred Oracles of God the Scriptures of truth are not the standing Rule for Faith and Life but your unwritten Scriptures that whimsical Light within you 4. That this Light within will bring men to an absolute perfection a freedome from all sin in this life and to Heaven also 5. That the Lord Jesus Christ though God-man blessed for ever is not the Son of God the Saviour of the World 6. That the person of Christ is not in Heaven above that it is Blasphemy to affirm that he is there 7. That the Light within Man is the true Scripture and Word of God even the everlasting Word and therefore long before the written Scriptures To this last I will make some Reply Reply Let this be granted sc That the Light in Man was long before the written Scriptures yet the written Scriptures do declare a truth to us more ancient then the oldest Quaker or his Idol light within him namely what the El●hims spake each to other saying Let us make Man in our own Image Gen 1. 26. And having made man it tells us what God said sc Be fruitful and multiply ver 28. And behold I have given you of every Tree bearing fruit ver 29. And God commanded the man saying of every Tree of the Garden c. Gen. 2. 16. Moreover the Scriptures tells us of divers things long before themselves were written to wit that after the Fall the Word of God was manifested to Adam and his wise and likewise that God
the dead for us and ascended up into heaven for us and before either which must be implied lived and died for us But he that believes not the Descention and the Ascention of the Lord Jesus Christ for him but seeketh Justification by the works of the Law he doth in effect deny the Resurrection and Ascention of Jesus Christ which to do were as much as in him lies to bring Christ down from above and likewise to bring him up again from the deep Now tell me Frances whither these verses sc the 6th and 7th so triumphingly repeated by thee do not plainly prove the true Christ and our only Saviour to be in heaven above us surely nothing can be more clearly proved and consequently by the Scriptures alledged by thee A Quakers pretended Saviour within him is not the true but the false Christ 2. As the righteousness of Faith is certain from the 6th and 7th Verses so it is possible from the 8th verse which comes now in like manner under consideration Ver. 8. But what saith It meaning the righteousness of Faith the Word is nigh thee even in they mouth and in thy heart that is the Word of Faith which we Preach Ver. 9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved Answ Touching the 8th verse there are some Queries which require Solutions Qu. 1 What is meant by Righteousness of Faith Sol. 1. By Righteousness is meant that righteousness which obtains acceptance justification and salvation with God which is the righteousness alone of the Lord Jesus of Nazareth which he wrought out in his own personal-Obedience and Sufferings 1600 years since upon the Cross 2. By the Righteousness of Faith is meant a right believing in the alone righteousness of this Jesus of Nazareth for acceptance justification and salvation with God Qu. 2. What by the word Faith Sol. We are to understand an Evangelical not legal word for it is a word of Faith the same with the righteousness of Faith above defined and which agrees with the Apostles Explication ver 8. That is saith he the Word of Faith which we Preach now the Apostles Preached no other word of Faith then the righteousness of Faith afore expressed and confirmed by the four Arguments besides there are other Scriptures of infallible truth evidencing the same as Rom. 1. ver 1. Separate unto the Gospel of Christ ver 3. Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord ver 4. Declared to be the Son of God with power according to the spirit of holiness by the resurrection from the dead Likewise in Chap. 4. 25. Who was delivered i. e. to death for our offences and was raised up again for our Justification And in 1 Cor. 15. 1. I declare unto you the Gospel which I Preached unto you What was that Gospel the Apostle tells us ver 3. how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures ver 4. And that he was buried and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures the last mentioned Scriptures do illustrate the righteousness of Faith and word of Faith preached in the abovesaid verses 6. 8. and therefore cannot possibly be understood for a Quakers pretended Saviour within him as this Disputant F. E. would make us believe Qu. 3. How is this Preached Word or righteousness of Faith said to be night even in the mouth and in the heart Sol. It s resolved by the Apostle in ver 9 10. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved That is to say the Word of Faith preached is nigh in our mouths when we confess before men sc That we believe that that righteousness whereby we are accepted of God justified and saved is the only righteousness of Jesus Christ of Nazareth which he wrought out in his personal Obedience and sufferings upon the Cross without us for us And it is nigh in our hearts when this confession proceeds from a right perswasion ingrafted an planted in our hearts by the spirit of Faith as it s testified by Paul ver 10. For saith he with the heart man believeth unto righteousness i. e. unto the righteousness of Faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth ver 6. And with the mouth Confession sc of the same righteousness is made unto Salvation Thus according to the command of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Iohn 5. 39. I have as ye may see searched the Scriptures of God for the Solution here asserted but where do ye Teaching Quakers search son your Gospel word of Faith surely not in th● Scriptures of Truth without but at your Oracle that Idol-Light tender part within which ye falsly call the Everlasting Gospel and Eternal Word which as ye affirm was never made flesh contrary to Ioh. 1. ver 14. O thou Idol light within let me tell thee though many Antichrists have done villanously yet thou in villanies surmount them all For as Jerusalem once justified Sodom so thou Light within dost justifie the vilest Antichrists that are this day in the World for where doth that Teaching Quaker dwell what is his Name who doth in his heart believe and with his mouth confess that the righteousness whereby he is accepted of God justified in his sight and saved is the righteousness alone of Iesus Christ of Nazareth which he wrought out in his own and only personal obedience and sufferings in the World sixteen hundred years ago or that doth believe and confess that God of his free Grace and Mercy giveth Faith in this righteousness of Jesus Christ which is by his Father imputed or reckoned to Believers for their justification before God or do believe and confess that in this reckoning or imputation there is a reality undoubtedly there 's nothing more inconsistent with the Faith and Confession of Teaching Quakers then these most evident Gospel Principles of infallible Truth and therefore they are as I may safely avouch the greatest Antichrists of this age on Earth and ordained to the greatest condemnation Jude ver 3 4. I do now proceed to consider his fifth Scripture alledged to prove a Quakers pretended ●aviour within him to be the true not the false Christ Text 5. 2 Cor. 13. 5. Know ye not your own selves how that Jesus Christ is in you except ye be Reprobates Ans 1. By the way This Text of Scripture layes the Axe to the root of your new coined Religion and wounds it to death which may be thus argued If the light which is by natural Generation in Reprobates coming into the World be not the true Christ then the light that is in every man which comes into the World by natural Generation is not the true Christ But the light which is by natural Generation in Reprobates is not the true Christ as above Ergo the light that is in
it is I my self meaning your Lord and Master and likewise after his ascention Act. 22. 8. And I answered who art thou Lord and he said unto me I am Jesus of Nazareth whom thou persecutest to these many more might be added to evidence that by Lord in the Text above 〈◊〉 man hood of Christs person is to be understood at least not to be excluded For in ver 11. Christ saith I am Alpha and Omega the first and the last here Alpha and Omega are explained by the terms Of the first and the last that is to say the Lord Christ is the first to wit subsisting in the beginning with God and equal with the Father and the last having taken the 〈◊〉 of a Servant i. e. of the meanest man and so last in reputation Phil. 2. 6 7. Third part Which is and which was and which is to come the Almighty by the distribution of the threefold time is meant as Aretas and Brightman on the 4th verse the trinity of persons which is or I am as in the first part are here of the same import and do refer to the Father Exod. 3 14. and which was to the Son Joh. 1. ver 1. And which is come to the Holy Ghost Iohn 16. 8 13. The Almighty This last word of the verse denotes the omnipotency eternal essence and Godhead of Christs person the sum of both sc 1. 11. verses above do reveal unto us only two things 1. The union of the two Natures in the person of Christ namely that he was and is true God and true man in one person 2. The Trinity of persons in the unity of Essence Now Francis doest thou think that either of these things containing the true sense of the Texts alledged by thee will prove your cause That a Quakers pretended Saviour within him is the true Christ surely thou canst not be so bruitish as to think so but rather the contrary sc That it is the false Christ the Devil this Conclusion made Patience an impatient Bullock she being unable to forbear any longer calls to me What quoth she dost thou make our Christ within us to be the Devil To her I made Answer saying that I did solemnly and with much reverence as in the presence of God to whom I must shortly be accountable for my words declare that I do most assuredly know that a Quakers pretended Christ within him is the false Christ the Devil whom ye ignorantly believe in and worship and with whom ye will be damned in Hell if ye repent not to this most serious Declaration she made no reply at all But F. E. forthwith replied saying Thou hast no warrant from the Scripture thus to speak I told him that I had sufficient warrant from the Scriptures to make good what I had in the fear of God declared and forthwith I alledged the words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth himself Ioh. 8. 24. I said therefore unto you that ye shall die in your sins this Scripture silenced him likewise and thereupon I told him that the true Christ had stopt his mouth Let me here add some other Scriptures for some further warrant as Ioh. 3. 18. He that believeth not sc on the Son of God sent into the World ver 17. is condemned already that is he is as sure to be damned as if he was actually in Hell and in ver 36. He that believeth not on the Son sc bo●n of Mary Luk. 1. 35 shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth on him likewise in Luk. 19. 14. And his Citizens hated him sc the Son of Man the Saviour ver 10 and sent a message after him saying we will not have this Man to reign over us let it be here well Noted that the true Christ calls those Citizens his Enemies and such Enemies as he would destroy ver 27. But those mine Enemies which would not that I the Son of Man ver 10. above should reign over them bring hither and slay them before me in Mark also Chap. 16. ver 16. He that believeth not sc on Jesus risen from the dead ver 9. shall be damned Now Frank didst not thou speak under the Power of Satan when thou didst so openly and confidently affirm that I had no warrant to speak as I did when I spake to thy fellow-Labourer in the work of the false Christ The next Bolt was shot by William Bullock and he tells us The Light makes manifest lifting up his voice lowder and lowder crying out tell me tell me the true and real meaning of those words the Light makes manifest I surely thought that his lowd Lowing and Bellowing was to prevent my asking of him where those words might be found in the Scriptures which I did forbear to ask because I knew his Answer sc t is Scripture Answ 1. I told him that he was at his old trade of mangling the Scriptures and then shewed him wherein namely that it was not the Light maketh manifest but whatsoever doth make manifest is Light which the ●ext made to appear in Eph. 5. 13. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the Light for whatsoever doth make manifest is light 2. By Light here we are to understand a Sin-reproving-light inasmuch as the latter part doth interpret the former part of the verse sc But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the Light i. e. by the Light of Scripture whence Paul argues thus for whatsoever doth make manifest in a way of Reproof is light sc Scriptural light as before for the written Scriptures are frequently described by Light Psal 119. 105. Thy Word is a Light unto my path Isai 8. 20. To the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Here the written Word such was the Law and Testimony is the only manifesting and so determining-light either for reprehension or satisfaction in cases of error and doubts and the reason of it is assigned by the Apostle 2 Tim. 3. 16. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Reproof for Instruction or manifestation and hereunto agrees the words of our Lord and Saviour Joh. 3. 26 21. For every one that doth evil hateth the Light neither cometh to the Light lest his deeds should be reproved But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light that his deeds may be made manifest 1. By Light in these verses Christ understands the Doctrinal-light contained in the written Scripture of the New-Testament which was preached by him and his Apostles hence it is that the Lord Christ Joh. 8. 12. and his Apost●es Mat 5. 14 are called the ●ight of the Wonld 2. That this Light doth reprove ver 20. and manifest ver 21. well then William thy ●em●●d is granted thee namely that the true and real meaning of the Text 〈◊〉 by thee is this to wit That the light of Scripture doth make reproved evils manifest or evils
attained to some growth in Christian matters learned these were called strong or perfect in comparison of the Beginners Thus Perfect is to be understood in the 1 Cor. 2. 6. Howbeit we speak wisdome among them that are perfect meaning however imperfect weaklings are taken with inticing words of mans wisdome ver 4. accounting the Preaching of the Cross Christ crucified Foolishnest yet grown mortified Christians will discern wisdom and sublimity in the plain preaching of Iesus Christ Crucified and this sense may be accommodated to this place of Scripture Phil. 3. 15. above As many of us as be perfect i. e. such of us as are no Beginners or Learners such as try experiments in Religion But Perfect such as have made some towardly progress therein that have attained to some Gospel strength ripeness or growth in the blessed Doctrine of Faith Obj. But if any Teaching Seducing Quaker should say viz. That by the word Perfect as it referrs to Saints in this world it doth signifie a perfect freedome from all sin Answ 1. This was the lying Doctrine of the Heretical Catharish's and now taught by Seducing Quakers but no where owned in the Scriptures of truth where is that Scripture to be found which saith in so many words sc That this or that Saint was perfect from all sin in this life when it shall be shewen it will be seriously considered 2. Solomon makes a chalenge to all the World Prov. 20. 9. Who can say I have made my heart clean I am pure from my sin that is none can say it truly though some will say it bouldly that any Saint of God in this life is absolutely freed from the having of sin which is evident from the confession of the most eminent Saints 1 Ioh. 1. 8. If we say that we have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us But to this Scripture the Quaker p●etends an Answer sc that in v. 10. the same Apostle saith If we say we have not sinned we make him a Lyar Here hence the Teaching Quakers do infe●r saying 't is true the born of God should lie if they did deny themselves to have sinned before they were in the new birth but not after it alledging 1 Ioh. 3. 9. Whatsoever is born of God doth not commit sin Reply 1. The 10th verse above sc If we say that we have not sinned we make him a Lyar by these words the Apo●●les intend their having of sin after as well as before the new birth for observe the 8th verse If we that is we who are in the new birth say that we have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us Note here that the words in this 8th verse are expresly of the present time to wit if we not have had no sin c. which doth most plainly prove that the born of God have sin after as well as before their new birth 2. As to the words alledged out of the 1 Ioh. 3. 9. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin Answ 1. If the words should be understood in the Quakers sense above asserted then the new birth would exclude the being of sin in all the born of God for the new birth agrees to them all to one as well as to another as the reason given is the same verse doth testifie Because his seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin because he is born of God now the seed remains in all the born of God as well as in any well then it must be meant of all Saints or none Now if the Teaching Quakers should be so stark mad as to affirm all Saints to be free from sin the Scripture above 1 Ioh. 1. 8. will reprove their madness for if we who are the real Saints and born of God say that we have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us all men may see that these words were spoken of and by such Saints as had ver 3. fellowship with the Father and his Son Jesus Christ and yet they have certified sc if that we say that we have no sin c. Again That the words in 1 Ioh. 3. 9. cannot be meant of freedome from the nature and being of sin in the born of God but only of the Trade and Custome of sinning which is explained in the foregoing 8th verse For the Devil sinneth from the beginning i. e. he hath never ceased to sin since he began it hath ever been his trade or customary way thus to sin the born of God cannot for the course and custome of sin being broken there 's not now such a free correspondency between the Soul and Sin as before Regeneration this is the Character of the unregenerate They cannot cease to sin 2 Pet. 2. 14. But so the born of God sinneth not i. e. without cessation inasmuch as he is daily pleading in his prayers against sin desiring strength not only against but victory over it thus is was with Paul Rom 7. 24. O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from this body of death sc from this burden and bondage of inherent sinful corruption yea all this after he was most truly the born of God It is therefore a manifest wresting of the above mentioned Texts sc 1 John 1. 10. in forcing them to say that the born of God sinned before they were in the new birth but not after it The tenth Scripture Eph. 3. 19. That ye might be filled with all the fulness of God which some say excludes the being of sin in Saints Reply 1. The phrase Fulness is to be expounded by a distinction there being a double fulness namely of Parts and Degrees for the first of these we read Act. 7. 55. But he Stephen being full of the Holy Ghost this Respects the fulness of parts only that is he had something of every Grace though not a perfection of any Grace An Infant may be said to be a perfect man as it hath a perfection or fulness of parts but not of growth and degrees 2. The fulness of God in respect of Degrees is to be had only in Heaven above And even there the Apostle intends not equality but quality of fulness that is a divine and glorious fulness of or from God so then the fulness of God above expressed is to be understood of a fulness not on Earth but in Heaven which is the proper import of that place of Scripture for the Apostle prayes that they Might be filled c. And so they should be in Heaven but he asserts not that either they were or should be so filled in this life the person is because here we know but in part 1 Cor. 13. 9 22. For now we see through a Glasse darkly but then face to face now I know in part but then I shall know even as I am known Therefore the fulness of God above doth not exclude the being of sin in this life The eleventh Scripture Luk. 1. 6.
some Instances 1. The Pope takes upon him the power of Pardoning sin making himself God and Christ which power of pardoning sin the Quaker ascribes to his Light within calling it God and Christ 2. The Pope affirms that the Teachings and Rules of direction being believed in and walked up unto will make such Believers and Walkers Perfect and bring them to j●stification and salvation all which the Quaker doth affirm of the Light within it being believed in and obeyed 3. The Pope teacheth that his written Scriptures are so far to be obeyed as they do agree with the infallible Spirit within him just so the Quakers teach that they are no further bound to obey the Letter of the Scriptures then the infallible un●rring light within makes them willing to obey 4. The Pope declares his Apocryphals to be not only of equal verity with but to exceed the Scriptures even so a Quakers Light within teacheth him to prefer his Apocryphal Quakerisms before the written Scriptures 5. The Pope testifies there is a nigher Doctrine than the Scripture hath to feed the Saints and perfect●ones meaning his Church enlightning Traditions so saith the Quakers light within that it hath a higher Doctrine then the written Scripture hath any to guid and ●eed the true Saints 6. The Pope robs Christ of all his Offices 1. Of his Kingly Office in taking part of it to himself by remitting sins and making Laws to bind Conscience both which a Quakers Light presumes to do remitting sin and binding Conscience by its laws 2. The Pope robs Christ of his Priestly Office for he doth dispose of it giving to a Masse Priest power to offer a daily propit●ation-Sacrifice yea that every Papist hath a piece of it within him that thereby every one of them may satisfie the Justice of God for his sins even by his own Merits within him and for Christs Mediatorship as some of them do abolish it so no Catholick desires the Man Jesus Christ to pray for Him because each one of them hath so much of the propitiat●ry Sacrifice dayly i● them as is meritorious to satisfie the justice of God for their sins Of which robbery in reference to Christs Priestly Office the Quakers are equally guilty for they give to their light that Masse-Priest with in a power to offer Sacrifice propitiatory dayly forsin whereby they daily in themselves satisfie Gods justice for their sins even by their own internal merits and as for Christs Mediatorship they have quite abolished it For no Quaker desires the one Mediator the Man Jesus Christ 1 Tim. 2 5. to pray for him 3. The Pope robs Christ also of his Prophetical Office for this office he assumes to himself who without the Scriptures determines infallibly by the pretened assistance of a Spirit of infallible light lockt up in his own breast all points of Faith and Life which kind of Robbery as to Crists Prophetical Office the Quakers have likewise assumed who by their Light within without the Holy Scriptures or laws of the King thence derived pretend to an infallible determination of all points concerning ●aith and Life here hence we may sa●ely infer that a Quakers Lig●t and Romes Pope are co●qual Antichrists This may further appear if the Terms and Title heretofore given to the P●p● as ●sserted 〈◊〉 the Reverend Brightman Ren. 13. page 135 136 ●e compared with those now given to the Light within by G. Fox in his Fo●o Book The great Mystery c. The Terms and Titles which were given to the Pope and imprinted by Brightman as above are these to wit 1. Hear saith Brightman what Barnard saith sc of the Pope Thou art a great Priest the Prince of Bishops thou art the Heir of the Apostles thou art Abel for thy primacy Noah for thy Government Abraham for thy Patria●●h●ship Melchisedech for thy Order Aaron for thy Dignity Moses for thy Authority Samuel for thy judgement Peter for thy Power Christ for thine anointing c. Book 2. Consid Again Mark saith Brightman how the Embassadors of the Empour of Sicily cry out to him the Pope lying groveling on the ground O thou that takest away the sins of the World have mercy upon us thou that takest away the sins of the World grant us peace As also what Simon Beginus saith speaking unto Pope Leo in the Council of Laterane Sess 6. Behold the Lion of the Tribe of Judah the ●oot of David we have waited for thee O most blessed Leo to be our Saviour Vn●o these saith B●ightma● we may joyn Cornelius the Bishop of Bipentum who laid open his blockishness in wondring at the Beast in the Council of Trent with these words The Pope is come a Light into the World and men have loved darkness more then Light every one that evil doth hateth the Light and cometh not to the Light Hence Brightman inferr● O out upon you ye Blasphemous Claw-backs is it not enough for you to adorn the Man of sin with the praises of the Saint unless ye do also heap upon him the praises which ye have robbed Christ of it would indeed render me too volumenous to set down herein all the pages lines and words imprinted in the Foxes Book above named concerning the Terms●nd ●nd Titles given by him and other such se●ucing Authors to the Light within which are either nume●ically or specifically the same with the Collections above given to the Popes or if there be any difference as to Terms and Titles of Blasphemy the F●z's are the more horrid upon the whole let any good Christian judge whether a Quakers Light within be not in go●d earnest the P●pe without And so I pass to the fourth and last Principle a●ore-named The fourth Principle to wit A Quakers denying of the Trinity or three persons in one Deity Reply It is by most judicious Christians acknowledged sc that three persons in one Deity is so great a mystery that it cannot be sound our by natural reason and no wonder for there are many things in natu●e yea in man himself Eccles 11. 5. Thou knowest not the way of the Spirit nor how the bones do grow in the Womb of hen that is with child reason cannot reach the knowledge of this Therefore saith Mr. Caril it is not to be admired if man be at a loss about the incomprehensible nature of God Howbeit it may be to all rational Saints sufficient to prove three persons in the Godhead though we cannot fully conceive how this should be For 1. There is but one God 1 Cor. 8. 4 6. 2. In this one God there are three He 's that do Vnderstand Will and Act and these three are so doistinguished that the one is not the other And 't is Dr. Gouges observation on Deut. 6. 4. Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one Lord the word Lord is twice in the Text and saith he Printed in Capital Letters purposely to notifie that the word Lord in the original is Jehovah and so he reads
Apostle is Iesus born of Mary who is called Christ Mat. 1. 16. the Iesus of Nazareth a man approved of God among the Iews Act. 2. 23. But a Teaching Quaker doth deny Jesus of Nazareth born of Mary a man approved of God among the Iews to be the Christ and therefore the Conclusion is undeniable sc That a Teaching Quaker doth deny that Jesus is the Christ And as this is undeniable so is the other namely That a Teaching Quaker is a Lyar and an Antichrist which is further evidenced 1 Ioh 4. 3. And every Spirit that confesseth not that Iesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is that spirit of Antichrist in the fle●● here is put for the flesh it self as in Scriptures aforementioned now to deny Christs Manhood to be a Saviour is to deny Iesus to be the Christ Secondly As the Light of Scripture doth manifest Teaching Quakers especially to be Liars Deceivers and Antichrists yea the Spirit of Antichrist so it doth also reprove them 1. Because as such they are of the Dragon and Beast making War with the Lamb ●ev 13. 9 10 The Man Iesus Ioh. 1. 29 30. and the faith delivered to the Saints 2. As such they are Contradicters and Blasphemers of the Truth which the holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1. 21. For instance Ioh. 1. 14. And the Word God ver 1. was made flesh Flesh i. e. true man for he dwelt among us the Iews and we beheld the Glory of him this dweller among us concerning whom the Witness-bearer sent of God ver 6 hare Record that he was a true man ver 30. there by witnessing That ●esus Christ was true Man as well as true God and both in his one person which Article of our Christian Faith is deried by most Teaching Quakers Another Instance we have ● Tim 3. 16. God was manifest in the flesh i. e. Mankind flesh or true and whole Man for so the Phrase in the Flesh can●otates as it hath been already cleared from the Scriptures of God so that God was manifest in the flesh doth not teach us that God is to be considered as distinct from the flesh but that God was manifest flesh real man-kind flesh and thereby the Godhead and the M●nhood were united in the one person of Christ and made manifest to the Apostles bodily senses of seeing hearing and ●eeling 1 Ioh. chap. 1. ver 1. 2. Likewise Paul Act 63. 38. Through this Man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins through or by ver 39. This Man viz. The man Iesus of Nazareth who by the wicked hands of the Iews was slain and hanged on a tree and then by God the Father raised from the dead the third day and exalted to be a Saviour to give remission of sins Act. 2. 22. Chap. 5. 29 30. through This Man is preached the forgiveness of sins as above For so hath the Lord commanded us ver 47. at which commanded Preaching the wicked Iew● were filled with envy and spake as Teaching Quakers do against those things spoken by Paul as above contradicting and blaspheming ver 45. So much for your first evil manifested and reproved by the Light of divine Scripture though there are many professed evils amo●g Quakers which the Light of holy Scripture doth manifest and reprove yet I shall now make men ●on but of one more because I would not be too voluminous The Second Evil is The profess●a perfection of a Quakers seeming Sanctity consisting in Thou and Thee thereby denying all reverential respects to any sort of men of what rank or quality soever For method sake we will in the first place ●ear what they have to say for themselves touching this matter 1. They are apt to say because they have often said it that Thou and You are of distinct significations in Scripture and likewise Thee and You the one signifying a Singular the other a Plural Answ These terms of thou thee and you are to alwayes in Scripture of distinct significations as it appears Lev. 19. 12. Ye or you shall not Swear by my Name falsly neither shalt thou prophane the Name of thy God In this Scripture Ye or You and Thou are of the same signification and in Ier. 3. 12. Return thou backsliding Israel and I will not cause my anger to fall upon you here likewise thou and you are of the same signification again in Luk. 17. 21. the Kingdome of God is within you you here doth in your sense signifie each particular Quaker 2. Nor are these words sc thee and you alwayes in Scripture of dictinct significations as in Deut. 28. 9. herein thee a singular and holy People a plural are of the same signification so in Isai 26. 20. here People and thou are of the same import To these Scriptures would it not render me tedious to the Reader I might add many more to gainsay this their trifling Assertion for you and thou are oft in Scripture and reason convertitable terms for instance thou in the Decalogue is indefinitely understood 2. They are ready to affirm sc To salute a single person under the notion You is both improper and irrational for it were to confound singular and plural in point of right reason Answ It s neither for it s not improp●r nor irrational to say to a single man This Youth is your Son for you a●e his Father which to 〈…〉 is as proper and rational as to say thou art is Father and the reason is because you and your are of the same nature unasmuch as the one is derived from the other Now as Your is applieable to one as to many so is You likewise Again it is both proper and rational to ●ell a single person This house is your house for you have a good ●itle to it which is as proper and rational as to say thou hast a good ●itle to t●o hou●e and consequently it is not only irrational to affirm that this dot 〈…〉 confound the terms of thou and you ●ts Diabolical to 〈◊〉 a the Quakers do thou and thee making it the daily 〈◊〉 for your levilling inflamed-pride 3. They say for themselves That holy men in the Scriptures did use the words thou and thee not only one to another but to God himself Answ This is granted howbeit I pray can any of you Quakers produce me one holy Man in Scripture expressed which used these words thou and thee that he might thereby take occasion to deny as ye wickedly do all reverential respects to any sort of men of what rank or quality soever sure I am ye cannot produce me one such man for this bruitish kind of practice is contrary to the manifold Precepts and Presidents also in the Scriptures of truth as afterwards shall plainly appear Indeed we Christians do acknowledge that holy men in Scripture did use the words thou and thee not only one to another but to God himself for two
Saviour an out side Christ an unscriptural phrase and no Saviour the reason of this Question is Because we read that our blessed Lord Jesus Christ whipt sundry persons honestey then thy self and for a lesser offence as in Joh. 2. 13 to 17. And Jesus went up to Jerusalem and found in the Temple those that sold Oxen and Sheep and Doves and the Changers of Money sitting And when they had made a scourge of small Cords he drove them all out of the Temple and said unto them make not my Fathers house a house of Merchandize Do thou now consider if our Lord Jesus Christ made at Jerusalem a whip of small Cords and with it did whip the people for abusing the Temple which was but a Type or Figure of the humane or mankind nature of Jesus Christ which is testified in ver 19 21. Destroy this Temple and in three Dayes I will raise it up But he spake of the Temple of his Body in which all his Fathers true Worship was to terminate as it appeareth by comparing some Scriptures the 1 Kings 8. 30 44 48. And hearken thou to the supplication of thy Servant and of thy People Israel when they shall pray towards this Temple i. e. towards the Temple in Jerusalem for the words were uttered by Solomon at the Dedication of the Temple and in the faith hereof Daniel prayed Chap. 6. 10. His Windows being open in his Chamber towards Jerusalem and thus it was in those dayes with every true Believer in all forreign parts of the world they did worship the Father in his Son with their faces towards the Temple in Iervsalem yea Ionah in the belly of the Fish Chap. 2. 4. Yet I will look again towards thy holy Temple Now if in the judgement of Jesus Christ the people deserved to be Whipt for abusing but the shadow of Christs Man-hood how much more dost thou O Will. H. deserve whipping as well as thy late Brother Iames Naylir that hast abused the Holy substance the Temple of Christs blessed body this is a far higher offence it is so Great in respect of men that it destroyes not only their peace in this World but that eternal peace for the World to come indeed ye present your selves a peaceable People calm Saints and as you stile your selves the meek Lambs of God but I can assure you that the persons which Jesus Christ whipt out of the Temple were far more praceable then your selves for they were but externally uncivil towards the Temple a shadow or figure only of the Body of Christs flesh but thou art Blasphemously rude yea ye make it your profest Religion to derogate from the true humane substance of the Lords Christ and with a brazen forehead and ●eared Conscience vilifying the holy thing born of Mary called the Son of God what greater violence can be offered to a true Christians peace Paul exhorts Christians 1 Tim. 2. 2. To pray for Kings and for all that are in Authority that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all Godliness and Honesty which Christian Prayers the Magistrates are bound in Conscience to Answer in their practice which they cannot do so long as such Peace breakers and open Transgressors 1. Of Godliness in respect of Gospel Ordinances 2. Of Honesty in respect of Allegiance are tolerated by them howbeit I do not thus speak in respect of the poor ignorant Seduced Quakers the generality of that Sect being such in these Islands but to thy self and all such Soul-Seducers Now W. Harriot if the Christian Magistrate should follow our Lord and Saviours Example herein don't thou cry out Persecution if thou dost the Scourge which Christ made of small Cords will tell thee that thou art mistaken it being a correcting of the Nocent no persecuting of the Innocent and for thy better satisfaction in this weighty matter do thou consider what he was that made that Scourge of small Cords and withal made such good use of it and thou wilt find that he was sc 1. A Prince that had Magistracy and Ministry radically resident in himself as the Son of Man 2. Though it were so yet he alwayes refused to act as a Magistrate except it were in this one particular case of whipping or scourging the abusers of the Temple in the holy City of Jerusalem Quest Why should a lawful Magistrate scruple to follow Christs Example upon such open D●riders and Blasphemous Contemners of him whom God hath exalted to be a Prince and our only Saviour rendring him most vile sc An out-side Christ no Saviour to the proud and ignorant the Materials of this Synagogue yea hereby increasing the number of those which break the peace both of God and the King in regard of Godliness and Honesty as above So much for the Question propounded The next Prater was William Wilkinson he repeats some of the Apostles words Col. 1. 27. Christ in you the hope of Glory which Text they wrest by forcing this sense upon it viz. That Christ in us is our present glory and glorious Saviour I Answered 1. This enforced sense doth destroy the true nature of the Word Hope for it only quickens a Believer to the lively expectation of the promised glory Tit. 1. 2. In hope of eternal Life or glory which God hath promised Likewise Gal. 5. ver 5. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by Faith well then the office of hope is to look at some good to come as Rom. 8. 25. If we hope for that we see not then do we with patience wait for it which shews us that this Grace of Hope is not exercised about things present as Quakers falsely gloss but only about something future for it is a waiting Grace 2. As the forced sense above doth destroy the nature of the Word Hope so it doth the genuine nature of the phrase Glory which signifies Eternal Life Tit. 1. 2. above which is in reversion or expectation as the Apostle witnesseth 1 Pet. 5. 1. I who am a witness of the sufferings of Christ and also a partaker sc by Faith of the Glory that shall be revealed 3. If the entire Clause in the Scripture above alledged Col. 1. 27. be duely considered it will plainly shew us that the sense afore imposed by them is antiscriptural for the whole clause in the Verse runs thus which is Christ in you the hope of Glory which is they usually leave out refers to the former part of the verse namely The riches of the Glory of the Gentiles which Riches Christ in you the Hope of Glory Note that it was the person of Christ which was the Riches of the Glory of the Gentiles as well as of the people Israel Luk. 2. 32. again the Lords Christ is called the Riches of glory and the unsearchable Riches among the Gentiles who is said ver 17. to dwell in the heart by Faith so that the mind of Paul in Col. 1. 27 is explained in Eph. 3. 17.
that is to say Christ in you by Faith is the hope of Glory to be revealed 1 Pet. 5. 1. though it be Christ in you the Hope yet not the Merit of Glory And therefore by Christ in you the hope of glory we are not to understand either present Glory or our glorious Saviour to be in us Hereupon F. Eastlack shoots this bolt to wit that the Deity was within him meaning that the Deity only was the true Christ and his Saviour to which I Replied that the essential general presence of the Deity was in Cats and Dogs as well as in him and therefore if the presence of the Dei●y only were the Saviour it might be so in these as well as in him forthwith he cryed out saying Thou hast spoken Blasphemy I told him that I had not spoken Blasphemy but good Divinity and then proved it to be so by the Testimony of the holy Apostle Act. 17 24. God that made the world and all things therein he giveth ver 15 to all life and breath and all things here hence I inferr'd That as the Deity was not included in any thing or creature so nor was it excluded To which F. E. returned saying I thought quoth he that thou hadst meant otherwise this Answer was like himself But for asmuch as some of the Quakers have as I am informed since affirmed sc that F. E. did me no wrong in charging me with Blasphemy as above I shall therefore endeavour some further satisfaction in in this matter As from the Prophet Jeremiah Chap 23. ver 23 24. Am I a God at hand saith the Lord and not a God afar off can any hide himself in secret places that I should not see him saith the Lord do not I fill Heaven and Earth saith the Lord. All these Questions are resolved into this one Position namely that the Deity is omnipresent in all things every where The Divine Being filleth all things and places for though he be not circumscribed by any thing that is made nor limited to any place yet it is not excluded from any place creature or thing This saith Mr. Carils on Ier. 23. above is a Mystery which indeed we are not able to comprehend by reason but we must take it down by Faith● which gives credit to the Word of God and perswades the heart that the report therein made is a Truth But if any ask how the Deity may be said to be every where and in every thing and creature that is made I Answer This Mysterious and astonishing Question with Augustine Epist 55. ad Dard. who affirms That the Deity is wholly every where and in every thing for the Godhead cannot be divided or parted That it is whole within all things and whole without all things no where included no where excluded containing all things contained of nothing yet not at all mingled with the nature of these things nor defiled with their pollutions There is a Truth in all these Assertions for the Deity is infinite and indivisible and therefore wheresoever the Deity is he is all and altogether filling all places creatures and thing in heaven hell sea and earth as Psal 139 7 8 Job 11 8 9. Isai 43. 2. And therefore their Teacher F. E. hath not only wronged me but much more the God of Truth and which was implied by himself when he said as above to wit I thought thou hadst meant otherwise But befo●e he making good this Assertion sc That I had not spoken Blasphemy I discoursed the words of the Psalmist Psal 139 7 8. Whether shall I go from thy presence David was so far from imagining that any such place could be found that in the very next words he concludeth God to be every where by an innumeration of all places saying If I ascend up into Heaven thou art there if I make my b●d in Hell thou art there if I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the outermost parts of the Sea even there shall thy hand lead me and thy right hand shall hold me that is there shall find thee efficaciously present with me Here VV. VVilkinson interrupted me saying We own Gods presence in heaven and hell now forasmuch as I well knew the Leger demains of Seducing Quakers denying any special or distinct place of heaven or hell but what was within themselves I askt him whither his God whose presence he owned in hell were saved or damn'd in hell to which he made no reply presently but being often urged at last he said I will not tell thee and afterwards he answered I leave it to thee this Answer was no other than a silly shift to hide his Equivocations least they should have been unmasked and then confuted by the Scriptures of truth this undoubtedly was the ground of his silence which is the more remarkable because this Wilk●nson is one of their baffling and prating Quakers But I pass this and proceed to the second Scripture repeated by him to wit 2 Cor 5. 16 Though we have known Christ after the flesh yet now henceforth know we him no more I Answered that the word Flesh is not here taken for the humane or mankind nature of Christ 1. Because ver 15. The Saints are exhorted to magnifie the body of Christs flesh sc That they which live should not live to themselves but to him that died for them and rose again Now it was the Body of Christs flesh which died and rose again from the dead and therefore the Apostle doth not ●n this Scripture deny the knowledge o● Christ after the flesh but he doth deny to k●ow i. e. in a special manner to love them who pretend to be Saints yet seek their own interest more then Christs Hence 2. Paul infers yea Though we have known Christ after the flesh i. e. after worldly greatness and honour creature Pomp and Dignity in which sense Flesh is understood in 1 Cor. 1. 26. Not many wise men after the flesh not many Noble not many Mighty sc after the flesh are called in this sense is Flesh in the alledged Text above to be understood as if the Apostle had said while we were unbelieving Pharises we expected the Mesias to come in external state earthly Glory and Majesty but being now converted to the Faith of Christ we have laid aside those fleshly thoughts and apprehensions of Christ after which we know him no more this is as I said the mind of Paul in reference to Christ after the Flesh in the Text of Scripture above it doth not therefore advantage their cause of an Idol-light within their pretended Christ and only Saviour I did expect some return from W. W. but he made none Then F. Eastlack said The Scripture saith It is Christ in you meaning therefore we are not to know Christ after the Flesh I told him that I had more then once made Replies to those words which had as I hoped given full satisfaction to the Christian Hearers but this poor