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A69915 A plea for the Non-Conformists giving the true state of the dissenters case, and how far the Conformists separation from the Church of Rome, for their Popish superstitions and traditions introduced into the service of God, justifies the Non-Conformists separation from them for the same : in a letter to Dr. Benjamin Calamy, upon his sermon, called, Scrupulous conscience, inviting hereto : to which is added, A parallel scheme of the pagan, papal and Christian rites and ceremonies : with a narrative of the sufferings underwent for writing, printing and publishing hereof / by Thomas De Laune. De Laune, Thomas, d. 1685.; Danson, Thomas, d. 1694.; De Laune, Thomas, d. 1685. Eikōn tou thēriou.; De Laune, Thomas, d. 1685. Narrative of the sufferings of Thomas Delaune. 1684 (1684) Wing D893; Wing D891; Wing D892; ESTC R12757 93,215 122

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justifie the Schism and Separation from Rome To have recourse to the Scriptures consulting those Oracles how things stood from the beginning and only separating from them we find Separatists from the Primitive Church and Truth we make Asec●●●ion that we may not partake of the English Roman Schism and answering the Lords express Command Come out from amongst them be ye sepanate c. 2 Cor. 6. Rev. 18. 4. be to be esteemed Sedition Schism and Separation we are Seditious Schismaticks and Separatists If to own the Soveraignity of Christ by whom all things were created and by whom all things consist who to this end dyed rose again and revived that he might be Lord both of quick and dead to whom the Father hath given all Power both in Heaven and Earth King of Kings and Lord of Lords and Powers and Potentates as under him in Conscience to him to whom you own every Knee must bow and the King is but next and immediately under him supream Head and Governour in all Causes Ecclesiastical and Civil it being also stampt upon our Coyn Christ● Auspice Regn● Christ the Kingdom 's happy Guide If the owning and asserting his Soveraignity in chief be Treason and Rebellion we own we are such Traytors and Rebels If in our Places and Stations to endeavour the Defence of the English Government Laws Liberties and Properties and to keep out the Popes forreign usurped Power who has heretofore so tyranniz'd over Prince and People both as to their Bodies and souls in these Nations and to which all who have taken the Oath of Allegeance are so solemnly engaged be to be esteem'd Plotting and Plotters we own our selves guilty of that Plot. The CONCLUSION THus Sir you have at your Friendly Call and Invitation a fair and impartial Examination of the Merits of the Cause giving you the different Sentiments of the Guides on both sides in the most material Objections made by the one and the candid Answers of the other and how far your own Principles and Practice in separating from Superstitious Idolatrous and Persecuting Bloody Rome justifies in many things their Principles as well as Practice in separation from you walking in their steps The substance whereof for a conclusion I shall briefly sum up with some Reflections thereon in the following Queries viz. 1. Quaery If your Answer to the Papists calling for your Negative Proof from the Scriptures against their Molatrous Foppish and unwritten Traditions be good against them viz. That there needs no Negative Proof to disprove them because they are not contain'd in OVR ONLY RVLE OF FAITH THE BIBLE as pag. 5. Then whether the same Answer is not good from the Dissenters when you ask them the very same Question which carries it in the whole of the Controversie ●s Dr. Stillingfleet observes p. 4 viz. That there needs no Negative Proofs to disprove all the Rites Services and Ceremonies inquestion because none of them are contained in our ONLY RULE OF FAITH where they say They no more ●●nd National Provincial Dioc●san Churches your Government by Lord Arch-Bishops and Bishops Deans Arch-Deacons Parsons Vicars Curats Chancellors Officials your Consecration of Churches and Priests your Priests Garments Altars Liturgies Singing-Service Letanies Bowing Crossing Kneeling at Sacrament Holy-dayes Fasts Feasts Vigils Then the Popish Holy Water Salt Oyl Spittle Baptizing of Bells Exorcisms Conjurations Bowing to Images and Altars and other such li●e Fopperies pag. 6 7 8. 2. Query If your own Pens do declare that to enjoyn unnecessary or indifferent things viz. things not contained in the Scripture in Gods Worship and Service as necessary ought to be reputed an adding to Gods Word a teaching for Doctrine the Commands of men Superstition Will-Worship or worshipping God in vein as pag. 12. then how can you avoid the same charge brought against you by the Dissenters when you as sel●-judged and condemned do the same things For are not your Rites and Ceremonies confessed by you to be Indifferent things as pag. 9 10. imposed upon Dissenters as absolutely necessary to the Excommunicating or as much as lies in you daming their Souls ruining their Bodies and Estates who conscientiously scruple and refuse them as page ●1 12 13. 3. Quaery If you do declare the Rites Services and Ceremonies in the Liturgy are of Primitive Antiquity and not of Popish Novelty as pag. 14 15. and that you have left or separated from the Church of Rome because they have left Primitive Antiquity and therefore the Dissenters have no cause to boggle at or scruple them as Popish But if it appear to be quite otherwise as the Examination of each particular seems to demonstrate as p. 16 17 18 19 20 c. viz That they are not of Primitive Antiquity but of Popish Novelty and all of them fe●ch't from the Institution of Popes and Popish Councils and Canons and not from Jesus Christ and his New-Testament Canons If so then first Whether you do not betray much Rashness and Weakness not to say with the Protestant Reconciler one of your own Falshood and Hypocrisie And Secondly Whether you do not thereby justifie the Dissenters Separation from you as warrantable because they separate from you for being in the practice of Popish Superstition and unwritten Tradition because they are expresly commanded by Christ To separate and come out from such unwarrantable Practices 2 Cor. 6. 14 15 16 17 18. Rev. 18. 4. Lest partaking of such Sins they share of the threatned Judgments It being very dishonourable as well as dangerous to halt betwixt two If God be God he but if Baal he is to be served and followed To which purpose we find in that most remarkable Letter of Bishop Hall to Dr. Laud afterward Arch-Bishop of Canterbury that which is very instructive upon this account whereof therefore I shall presume to give you this following part of it viz. Resolve saith he one way and know at last what you do hold and what you should cast off either your Wings or your Teeth and lo●thing this Bate like Nature be either ● Bird or a Beast If you must begin why not now it is dangerous deferring that whose Want is deadly and whose Opportunity is doubtful God cryeth out with ●eh● Who is on my side Who Look at least out of your Window to him and in a resolute Courage cast down this Jezebel c. Thus far the good Bishop which is a good caution against Indifferency and Luke warmness in the service of Christ agreeable to our Saviour Rev. 3. to Laodicea I would thou wert either cold or hot c. 4. Quaery If your selves have judged Popish Imposition and Persecution for Conscience to be Antichristian Wolfish and Beastly wholly contrary to Christianity and the Lamb like Nature of Christ and that it is Injustice and barbarous Cruelty to afflict men for what they cannot help and a plain Rebellion against God by wresting his Scepter and usurping his Empire over Conscience out of his hand the
Penalties But out of a Noble Christian Principle that you may have an Opportunity to discover with how much meekness of Wisdom and demonstration of Truth you can treat convince and satisfie a Gainsayer having so generously declared That you do not desire men should become your Proselites further than you give them good Reason and Scripture for it Club-Law being none of the Arguments you treat a scrupulous or tender Conscience with The Arguments and Objections are these that follow The first Objection we shall mention as brought against the Non-conformity and Separation of the Dissenters from the Church of England is this That they have no Reason or Cause upon a Conscientious Account so to do because the principal things they take offence at are not forbidden in the Scriptures and till they can produce a Scripture to the Negative as a Negative Article of Faith that says we are not to do so or so Kneel at the Communion Cross in Baptism keep Holy-days use Liturgies Letanies c. they can have no cause of just scruple And thus Sir you are pleased to Argue viz. That there can be no Transgression but by either omitting what the Law Commands or doing what the Law forbids For Instance If a man can shew where Kneeling at the Sacrament is forbidden in Scripture where sitting is required where praying by a Form is forbid and extemporary Prayers are enjoyned then indeed the Dispute would soon be at an end But if neither the one nor the other can be found as most certainly they cannot then Kneeling at the Sacrament and Reading prayers out of a Book must be reckoned amongst things lawful and then there is no need of scrupling them because they may be done without sin nay where they are required by our Superiors it is our Duty to submit to them because it is our duty to obey them in all lawful things This way of Arguing you say is very plain and convincing And to the same purpose we have Dr. Stillingfleet in his late Answers to several of the Dissenters affirming that those are Schismaticks that Deny submission to the Government of the Church of England and he tells us in plain terms assuredly that the Reasons of this Denial do not signifie a Button those saith he who seperate from the Church of England make this their fundamental principle as to Worship wherein the difference lies that nothing is lawful in the Worship of God but what he hath expresly commanded We say all things are lawful which are not frobidden and UPON THIS SINGLE POINT stands the whole Controversie of Separation as to the Constitution of our Church Here 's the Objection in words at length and which you will find to be no other then what the Papists make to the Church of England upon the same occasion which I shall transcribe in their own words and the Answers of your own Party to it which I hope will be esteemed a fair and satisfactory way of Reply Dr. Stillingfleet giving us an accout of his Popish Adversaries Plea and how he Returned the Negative Articles to be proved by him makes to him this Answer But the strangest Effort of all the rest is what he hath reserved to the last place viz. That the Charge of Idolatry against them must be vain and groundless because if I be pressed Close I shall deny any one of these Negative Points to be divine Truths viz. That honour is not to be given to the Images of Christ and his Saints that what appears to be Bread in the Eucharist is not the Body of Christ that it is not lawful to Invocate Saints to pray for us These are the Jesuits words requiring the Doctor to prove those Negatives upon which single Point he puts the stress of his Argument Then follows his Answer which I pray you to mind well because it is the Answer you must take to the like Question from us viz. But the Answer to this is so easie that it will not require much time to dispatch it For I do assert it to be an Article of my faith that God alone is to be worshipped with Divine and Religious Worship And he that cannot hence infer that no Created Being is to be worshipped hath the name of Reasonable Creature given him to no purpose What need we make Negative Articles of Faith where the Affirmative do necessarily imply them If I believe that the Scripture is my only Rule of Faith as I most firmly do Will any man that considers what he saith require me to make Negative Articles of Faith that the Pope is not Tradition is not Councils are not a private Spirit is not for all these things are necessarily Imply'd therein And so for all particular Doctrines rejected by us upon this principle we do not make them Negative points of Faith but we therefore refuse the Belief of them because not contained IN OUR ONLY RULE OF FAITH On this account we reject the Pope's Supremacy Transubstantiation Infallibility of the present Church in Delivering Points of Faith Purgatory and other FOPPERIES impos'd upon the Belief of Christians So that the short Resolution of our Faith is this That we ought to believe Nothing as an Article of Faith but what God hath Revealed and the compleat Revelation of God's will to us is contained in the BIBLE c. And what could have been spoken wi●h fuller Evidence and greater Demonstration of Truth Therefore as joyning issue with the Doctor that upon this single point stands the whole Controversie of Separation as to the Constitution of their Churches viz. That nothing is lawful in the Worship of God but what he hath expresly commanded as say the Dissenters and not all things lawful which are not forbidden as say the Advocates for the Church of England let his own words decide the matter and forever determine the Case For what need the Dissenters as the Doctor affirms on their behalf make Negative Articles of Faith where the Affirmative does necessarily imply them If they do believe with the Doctor that the Scripture is their ONLY Rule of Faith as they most firmly declare to do will any man that considers what he saith require them to make Negative Articles of their Faith that Popes Councils Private Spirits Traditions are not and so for all particular Doctrines rejected by them upon this principle They do not with the Doctor make them Negative points of faith but they therefore with him refuse the Belief of them BECAUSE NOT CONTAINED IN OUR ONLY RULE OF FAITH On this account they do with the Doctor Reject the Pope's Supremacy Transubstantiation Infallibility of the Church of Rome in Delivering points of Faith viz Purgatory and other Fopperies as Salt Oyl Spittle Exorcisms Conjurations baptizing of Bells c. And upon the same account do they Reject what the Protestants have received either from Pagans or Papists as to National Provincial Diocesan and Parochial Churches Because not Contained in