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choose_v a_o protestant_n or_o do_v man_n always_o continue_v in_o love_v of_o those_o who_o they_o have_v choose_v you_o know_v that_o experience_n teach_v the_o contrary_a so_o long_o only_o do_v they_o love_v he_o as_o he_o please_v they_o and_o serve_v their_o affection_n which_o because_o he_o neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o do_v therefore_o their_o affection_n of_o love_n be_v soon_o quench_v and_o they_o begin_v to_o hate_v and_o to_o contemn_v he_o and_o the_o rather_o because_o they_o do_v choose_v he_o for_o in_o that_o respect_n they_o think_v he_o more_o find_v to_o please_v they_o chap._n 5._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 33._o sect._n 3_o and_o if_o it_o shall_v happen_v which_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o any_o church_n shall_v desire_v or_o choose_v or_o consent_v upon_o by_o the_o most_o part_n some_o that_o be_v unmeete_a either_o for_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n than_o the_o minister_n &_o elder_n of_o the_o other_o church_n round_o about_o shall_v 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can_v not_o be_v without_o discretion_n of_o order_v themselves_o in_o choose_v their_o pastor_n and_o now_o you_o say_v if_o any_o church_n shall_v by_o the_o most_o part_n choose_v some_o unmeet_a man_n etc._n etc._n whereby_o you_o confessr_v that_o they_o may_v be_v deceyve_v contrary_a to_o your_o former_a word_n second_o your_o order_n be_v most_o unperfitte_a &_o full_a of_o intolerable_a inconvenience_n for_o inconvenience_n the_o order_n which_o t._n c._n prescribe_v un_fw-fr perfect_v &_o full_a of_o inconvenience_n who_o shall_v complain_v of_o this_o election_n to_o other_o church_n and_o when_o complaint_n be_v make_v who_o shall_v call_v they_o together_o when_o they_o be_v call_v together_o what_o order_n shall_v be_v take_v for_o the_o avoid_n of_o confusion_n &_o tumult_n or_o who_o shall_v bear_v their_o charge_n or_o in_o what_o place_n shall_v they_o meet_v or_o how_o often_o likewise_o if_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v fail_v in_o this_o duty_n etc._n etc._n who_o shall_v bring_v it_o to_o the_o next_o synod_n or_o who_o shall_v summon_v the_o synod_n or_o in_o what_o place_n shall_v it_o be_v keep_v or_o at_o what_o stay_n shall_v the_o parish_n be_v for_o a_o pastor_n until_o the_o matter_n be_v determine_v or_o who_o shall_v complain_v to_o y_z e_z prince_n and_o magistrate_n or_o what_o if_o the_o prince_n will_v not_o drive_v they_o to_o a_o new_a election_n but_o allow_v of_o the_o old_a do_v you_o not_o see_v of_o what_o disorder_n contention_n tumult_n &_o inconvenience_n this_o your_o disorder_a order_n will_v be_v the_o cause_n for_o how_o many_o meeting_n of_o church_n shall_v we_o have_v how_o many_o synod_n what_o part_n take_v what_o run_v up_o and_o down_o what_o loss_n of_o time_n what_o cause_n of_o offence_n what_o quarrel_n yea_o what_o not_o but_o among_o all_o other_o thing_n you_o have_v here_o appoint_v to_o y_z e_z prince_n or_o magistrate_n increase_v the_o prince_n authority_n diminish_v and_o her_o trouble_n increase_v a_o good_a office_n that_o he_o must_v stand_v and_o behold_v all_o this_o and_o in_o the_o end_n only_o drive_v the_o parish_n to_o a_o new_a election_n which_o also_o you_o say_v that_o he_o must_v do_v throughout_o your_o whole_a book_n you_o take_v from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n his_o whole_a authority_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n &_o give_v unto_o he_o no_o more_o as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v than_o the_o very_a papist_n do_v that_o be_v potestatem_fw-la facti_fw-la and_o not_o potestatem_fw-la iuris_fw-la for_o he_o must_v only_o at_o your_o commandment_n execute_v such_o law_n and_o order_n as_o you_o and_o your_o senior_n have_v devise_v again_o consider_v the_o great_a number_n of_o parish_n in_o this_o realm_n the_o variety_n of_o man_n mind_n the_o diversity_n of_o opinion_n in_o religion_n and_o the_o general_a inclination_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n to_o dissent_v and_o disagree_v among_o themselves_o it_o can_v not_o be_v but_o that_o in_o short_a space_n the_o prince_n shall_v be_v overpress_v and_o surcharge_v with_o the_o compose_n and_o order_v of_o these_o confuse_a and_o tumultuous_a election_n so_o that_o she_o must_v be_v constrain_v to_o let_v pass_v the_o care_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o be_v whole_o trouble_v with_o hear_v and_o redress_v these_o matter_n wherefore_o to_o conclude_v if_o you_o have_v no_o better_a reason_n for_o your_o popular_a election_n than_o these_o i_o think_v it_o will_v be_v long_o before_o you_o can_v persuade_v any_o reasonable_a or_o wise_a man_n to_o subscribe_v unto_o it_o but_o now_o to_o the_o defence_n of_o my_o own_o reason_n the_o diversity_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o we_o require_v a_o diverse_a kind_n of_o government_n and_o of_o ordain_v minister_n chapter_n 6._o the._n 1._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n
that_o that_o they_o which_o be_v most_o pure_a aught_o to_o be_v choose_v etc._n etc._n for_o else_o why_o do_v he_o add_v and_o say_v sancimus_fw-la we_o have_v decree_v and_o not_o rather_o they_o have_v decree_v but_o the_o word_n that_o follow_v be_v most_o plain_a quoties_fw-la sacerdotalem_fw-la sedem_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o oft_o as_o it_o shall_v happen_v that_o the_o room_n of_o a_o priest_n shall_v be_v void_a the_o inhabitant_n of_o that_o city_n shall_v give_v their_o voice_n of_o three_o etc._n etc._n for_o where_o do_v the_o apostle_n ever_o appoint_v that_o three_o shall_v stand_v in_o the_o election_n or_o what_o example_n have_v you_o of_o it_o in_o the_o whole_a scripture_n so_o that_o you_o see_v here_o no_o one_o prescript_n rule_v or_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o all_o point_n follow_v but_o that_o order_n to_o be_v take_v and_o law_n make_v by_o the_o emperor_n which_o he_o think_v for_o that_o state_n and_o time_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v most_o 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constitution_n ex_fw-la codice_fw-la that_o be_v that_o the_o inhabitant_n choose_v three_o of_o who_o the_o metropolitan_a shall_v choose_v one_o to_o be_v bishop_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o metropolitan_a have_v ius_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la and_o that_o law_n in_o codice_fw-la differ_v not_o one_o whit_n from_o this_o constitution_n the_o word_n of_o carolus_n magnus_n make_v with_o i_o rather_o than_o against_o i_o for_o in_o that_o he_o say_v secundùm_fw-la statuta_fw-la canonum_fw-la de_fw-la propria_fw-la dioecesi_fw-la according_o to_o the_o statute_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o that_o diocese_n he_o plain_o signifi_v that_o in_o sundry_a diocese_n there_o be_v sundry_a kind_n and_o manner_n of_o election_n else_o will_v he_o have_v say_v secundùm_fw-la statuta_fw-la canonum_fw-la apost_n according_a to_o the_o statute_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o sacrae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n or_o such_o like_a but_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o the_o same_o law_n make_v the_o matter_n manifest_a praecipimus_fw-la etiam_fw-la omnibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o will_v also_o and_o command_v all_o those_o which_o be_v subject_a to_o our_o jurisdiction_n that_o no_o man_n attempt_v to_o spoil_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n monastery_n or_o the_o church_n themselves_o &c_n &c_n mean_v no_o doubt_n touch_v election_n that_o of_o ludovike_a do_v 63._o declare_v also_o that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o emperor_n power_n to_o alter_v the_o manner_n of_o election_n or_o to_o establish_v they_o for_o else_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v these_o law_n and_o confirmation_n make_v all_o this_o verify_v my_o assertion_n and_o prove_v plain_o that_o the_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o call_v and_o elect_v minister_n be_v and_o have_v be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o order_n as_o shall_v be_v most_o expedient_a for_o the_o present_a state_n of_o the_o church_n if_o the_o prince_n think_v it_o convenient_a that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v voice_n in_o such_o election_n they_o may_v so_o have_v if_o not_o there_o be_v no_o law_n of_o god_n do_v bind_v they_o to_o it_o and_o that_o do_v all_o those_o law_n of_o emperor_n manifest_o prove_v chap._n 6._o the_o eight_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 36._o sect._n 4._o 5._o platina_n also_o in_o the_o life_n of_o pope_n adrian_n the_o second_o write_v that_o ludovike_a the_o second_o by_o his_o letter_n o._n letter_n a_o yntruth_n for_o he_o only_o come_v mend_v they_o for_o so_o do_v he_o do_v not_o command_v they_o to_o do_v o._n command_v the_o roman_n that_o they_o shall_v choose_v their_o own_o bishop_n not_o look_v for_o other_o man_n voice_n which_o be_v stranger_n can_v not_o so_o well_o tell_v what_o be_v do_v in_o the_o common_a weal_n where_o they_o be_v stranger_n and_o that_o it_o appertain_v to_o the_o citizen_n the_o same_o platina_n witness_v in_o the_o life_n of_o pope_n leo_n the._n 8._o that_o when_o the_o people_n of_o rome_n 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