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A91468	Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655.	Parnell, James, 1637?-1656.	1655 (1655)	Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310	65,568	94

or the Church in their dayes who were men that coveted no mans Silver nor Gold nor apparrell but had forsaked all for the Gospels sake and many of the Church suffered the spoiling of their goods willingly by your fore-Fathers the cheife Priests and Scribes and Pharises who was their persecutors as you are now of them who the Gospel do own Act. 20.33 Heb. 10.34 and your professors also who as thou saist doth not rightly value spirituall things such as are holden forth by the true Ministers and Messengers of God neither can because by such blind guides as thou art they are kept in blindnesse and darknesse least their eies should be opened and they come to see you and decline from you who was never tied to you by any command of God and therefore you are glad to make use of a law of man contrary to the practise of Christ and his Apostles and as for the expresse provision which the Lord made for his Ministers and Messengers in the new Testament I reply When Christ gave them their Commission he said also in whatsoever house they entered they was to eate such as was set before them for saith he the workman is worthy of his meate and this is all the expresse provision that thou canst find allotted to them in the new Testament and this was without any law of man too for there was no need of any for if they did not willingly receive them they was not to eate with them but to shake of the dust of their feete against them and that was all the law they was to take against such which was earthly minded and regardlesse of them but this will not serve you because your selves are earthly minded and therefore will have it of every one whether they receive you yea or nay or else you have a law of man to take treble damage and instead of eating such as they will set before you you will have the tenth part of what they have by compulsion you are such greedy devouring Woolvs and what was before allotted to the Priests in the old Testament is before sufficiently proved to be nothing concerning you who professe your selves Ministers of the New Testament and as for those Scriptures which thou quotes in 2 Chron. 31.5 6. c are also as nothing to my Query but are before answered in my last reply but yet these shall stand to witnesse against thee to be a liar for let any who reades these verses see if there the Isralites did shew any earthly mindednesse or stood in need of a law to compel them after they knew the Kings mind as thou accusest them and thus thou canst find nothing either in the Old or New Testament that will cover thy deceipt but altogether witnesse against thee and therefore againe thou flees into thy old shelter which is the will of man by which thou art set up and upheld therefore a false Prophet and a deceiver who abides not in the doctrine of Christ and it is no Pious nor Just act for them as I said before to take away the fruits of their subjects labours by a compulsive law to give unto such Earth-wormes as thee who cares not how you get it so you get it as thy own mouth confessest for thou saist it is a competent though not a liberall maintenance and yet thou canst take it and plead for it too yea and of worldly minded people which is altogether contrary to the Apostles practise and so thou fullfills the wordes which before I have spoken of thee and whosoever denies you of Tithes do not unjustly detaine them as thou saist they do being you have no right to them by any law or command from God or example in the Scripture as before is proved but only claimes a Title by the unjust supremacy of the Pope by which your fore-Fathers the persecuting Bishops was upheld and therefore we called Quakers do teach people them you to deny which is not contrary to the practice of Christ or his Apostles as thou accusest us for saith Christ Beware of false-Prophets that appeare in sheeps clothing Mat. 7.15.16 but inwardly ravening Woolves by their fruits they are knowne and by which sufficiently you are here marked our and the Apostles bids from such turne away as in 2 Tim. 3.5 and againe the Apostle John forbids to receive such as abides not in the doctrine of Christ or to bid them God speed 2 Joh. 9.10 and here both Christ and his Apostles sufficiently taught people to deny you and here thou art proved a lier who thus falsely accusest us called Quakers in this to act contrary to the practice of Christ or his Apostles and so here thou and the rest of the professed Ministers of this Nation are sufficiently manifest what you are so that all men may see your folly and deceipt but those who are blind and love to have it so and so the Scripture is fulfilled upon you Jer. 5.30.31 Whether ever the Ministers of the Gospel tooke any necessaries of the world 12 Que. as thou and such as thou doth all your Tithes and maintenance yea or nay And in thy Answer thou saist yea they have P. Ans which to prove thou quotes Ast. 28.1.9 where thou saist Paul tooke necessaries of the Barbarians yet this not serving thy turne thou runs to old Histories which thou calls Ecclesiasticall records and saith they for 1500 yeares doe testify the same but yet doubting of this thou saist as thou said before it sufficeth you that there is no law nor command of God to the contrary nor are examples thou saist needfull for every thing as to prove that Christ called any shooemaker or cobler to be a Prophet Reply But here againe thou hast marked out thy selfe to be a false Prophet who runs and the Lord never sent thee and therefore thou teachest for Doctrine the traditions of men for the which thou hast no Scripture therefore runs to old stories to which I am not to give any credit be they never so old being they are not according to Scripture and therefore not Ecclesiasticall for the oldnesse of the thing doth not make it truth though you haue long thereby deceived the ignorant And as for that Scripture which thou quotest in Acts 28.1.9 then Paul was a Prisoner and he and the Souldiers that kept him and the rest of the people was driven there by storm upon the Sea so that in that cause the Barbarians took pitty of them and received them but there was many besides Paul and the Centurion to whom Paul was committed was to take care of him and also that which the Barbarians did was freely and that which nature bound them to being they was in that strait which was done to many besides Paul who were heathen so that this doth not at all stand for thee who art in thy own Country and yet takes all thy Tithes and maintenance of the World by compulsion neither will

sayst judge ye for thou sayst you do not creep into the Churches who have the doores set wide open and have your Congregations or Assemblies publiquely called together by a Bell and then thou vents forth a deal of frothy stuffe and sayst why must your Houses of Lime and stone be called Steeple-houses more then the Glaziers Hall or the Bull and Mouth neare Aldersgate be called a Glasse-house a Chimney-house or a Store-house or a Stable-house but thou askest where did Christ or his Apostles reproach the Synagogues with reproachful names as we do your Churches Here thy malitious and scornful spirit is much more made manifest Reply together with thy folly and ignorance so that I am able to judge thee and the rest of the Parish Preachers to be those creepers into houses that Paul there speaks of 2 Tim. 3.6.7 who have led silly women and people captive these many years full of sin and led away with divers lusts who some have learned 40. years some 50. some 60. yea some 80. and yet strangers to the truth yea as blinde and carnall as ever they was so that they take a House of Lime and stone for a Church and a House of God as you have taught and aske them why they call it so and they will answer it was called so before they was born and will be after they were dead then judge ye whether these Creatures be not blind and carnall and led by your own Customs and traditions and you are their Teachers who would bear rule in your Steeple-houses so that none shall speak but your selves if they do you have a Law to lay upon them contrary to the order of the true Church as in 1 Cor. 14.30 31 32. That all might speak one by one and if any thing be revealed to him that stands by let the first hold his peace but this is called disorder amongst you that call your selves Saints and are not but the Synagogue of Satan and by thy own Confession are led together by a Bell for which you have no Rule in the Scripture and so you lead them by Custom and Tradition and also thy own words here proves what I said in my last Reply that you do not call your Assemblies and the place where your Assemblies meets both by one for here thou callest the place a Church and the people the Congregation as I said before and thou blinde guide where dost thou read in the Scripture of Church-doores be ashamed and blush thus to presume in thy blasphemy and therefore how soever thou have taken these houses to be wherein deceivers creeps as before is proved and have taught the people so to put them out of jealousie of you to be the deceivers doth not at all excuse you from it for the Apostle himself taught in private houses and Chambers and private places Act. 20.20 and therefore by that account thou would tax the Apostle to be a deceiver if he was here as thou dost James Parnel and those whom thou scornfully calls his gang but where dost thou finde such a word in the Scripture which proceeds out of thy malitious and evill heart but thy reproaches unto us are riches and thy shame And the Reason why those Houses near Aldersgate which thou so spits thy venom at because the people of God have used to meet there may not be called as thou in contempt dost terme them as well as your Stone-houses be called Steeple-houses is because they have names fitting for them already for to distinguish them from other places and so also the word Steeple-house is the fittest name to distinguish your meeting places from others and also to take from them that holy name which only belongs to the body of Christ and also to wear out that Idolatry of the peoples mindes which they through long Custom have born to those Idolatrous places neither do we any more reproach them in so saying then Christ and his Apostles did in calling the Jews meeting places Synagogues though thou highly dishonourest Christ in calling them Churches which signifies his body Have you no other names to bestowe upon your stone houses and high places but most blasphemously to call them by the name of God's and holy men whom you are not worthy to name as you call your Colledges which are Synagogues of Satan and Cages of unclean Birds by the name of Immanuel and by the name of Christ and Trinity and the like if you had called them by the name of Glaziers Hall or Bull and Mouth or Synagogue and the like we should not gainsay it and therefore in this the Jews will condemn you who did not presume to call their meeting places by such holy names as you presumptuously do which is and hath been a great provocation of the people to Idolatry to idolize the places because of their names which was given to them by the Papists who ignorantly worship names and you cast out the Papists for Idolatry and yet upholds their Idolls therefore woe unto you blinde guides and deluders of the people your wickedness is had in remembrance before the Lord. Whether it was the practice of the Apostles to take a Text of the Prophets words Que. 19. and from thence to raise uses points Traills and motives as thou and such as thou dost who makes a Trade of their words And in thy Answer P. Ans thou sayst that it hath been the practice of the Church and her Teachers this many hundred years for the which thou hast no Scripture proof and thirdly thou sayst that none will deny that this is an useful and profitable way of teaching which is an abominable lie which I and hundreds more can testifie against And fourthly thou sayst it may be proved out of the Scriptures that all this hath been done by Christ and his Apostles which is another lie and those are the Scriptures upon which thou wouldst ground thy lies in which they will witness against thee as Luk. 4.18 and Mat. 22.31 Act. 8.35 and for to maintain thy uses points Trialls and motives thou quotes Rom. 15.4.2 Tim. 3.16.17 John 8.31 and 13.35 and Matth. 25.34 Oh thou lier Reply thy lies will not cover thee nor the Scripture stand for thee who art found out of the life and practice of them that gave them forth who art one of the lying false Teachers who have deluded the people this many hundred years Col. 2.8 which deluded ones are your Church amongst whom you have used your Philosophy and vain deceipt by which you have long spoiled them so that the greatest part of the professors therein are earthly minded by thy own confession and I am sure that another part are Drunkards and swearers and Adulterers and scoffers and scorners and proud and envious ones and the like and now where is the fruits and profitableness of your teaching therefore for shame stop thy mouth for boasting of your Church and her teachers and saying None

calls his fellows can discerne in thee though thou art blind and cannot them see What Scripture hast thou for sprinkling Infants with water on their faces Que. 21 and whether all are Christians and in the faith of Christ that are so done by or what doth it profit And in thy answer P. Ans the deceipt of thy heart thou utters so that the simple may easily discerne the folly and also see how thou and the rest of thy bretheren have deluded and bewitched the Nation for thou say'st thou holdes not the Baptism of infants absolutely necessary but lawfull only and to prove the lawfulnesse of it thou say'st it is sufficient that thou hast no command in the Scripture against the sprinkling of infants in the face with baptismal water but thou say'st thou hast the commandement of Governours thou art commanded to be subject to every ordinance of man for the Lords sake Here the people now may see how they have been long deluded for thy own mouth utters it Reply for whenas many of the people of this Nation who follow you blind guides have perswaded themselves through your evill incensing and leavening of their minds to this day this to be absolutely necessary to salvation and that their Children could not be saved if they died without it and now thou comes to the Triall to prove it thou confessest it is not necessary but lawfull onely and that is because there is no command of God against it thou say'st neither a command for it but by man and thus you have long deluded the nations with your own Inventions for the which you have no Scripture then how is it your rule here you run besides your rule teaching for doctrine the commandements and traditions of men which the Scripture is against and therefore against infants baptism Math. 15.9 Col. 2.22.23 which by thy own confession is but an ordinance of man Here thy 53. Que. is answered but God is to be obeyed rather then man and you do it not for the Lords sake but for to please man for the Lord doth not require it at your hands and now all the ignorant people who have beene in this bewitched by you may see your blindnesse who have long made them believe that it was an ordinance of Christ that their Children should be sprinkled and one of the points of salvation as you call them and now nothing but an ordinance of man which will not stand for thee neither for in that thou liest also to say it is the commandements of thy governours for in that they leave every one to the liberty of their consciences and all lawes and ordinances afore time to the contrary are made by this nul and voyd and now doth the Holy-Ghost teach thee to lie oh thou lier and blasphemer of the holy-Ghost who said that usually thou speakest by the motion of the Holy-Ghost and now art taken in a lie oh Satan is high in thee and thy wickednesse is great and which dost thou call thy baptismall water this also is the deceipt of thy heart and that which is not of saith is sin Rom. 14.2 therefore infants baptism for you say your faith is grounded upon Scripture then where is your Scripture for infants baptism and thus out of the doctrine of Christ you are found acting and doing your own workes and therfore the rest of thy pretended answer I shall leave to the impartiall reader to judge of wherein thou hast much manifested thy ignorance and bindnesse and in vaine hast thou quoted any Scripture for if any of it would stand for infants baptism then it would be necessary which thou confessest it is not and therefore thou Serpent why wrestest thou the Scripture thus to uphold that which is not necessary and where as thou speakest of the promises made in the seed but that seed is not the seed of the Serpent which rules in all you Children of disobedience therefore what hast thou to do with the promises and where dost thou prove that infants baptism is the seal of the covenant or the badge of the Kingdom as thou termest it but thou liar read what the seal is in Eph. 1.13 and with that stop thy mouth And whereas thou speakest of Christs calling little Children Here thy 54 and 55. Qu. is Ans John 4.2 Eph. 2.3 John 3.3 what of that Christ baptised none therefore silence babler And how are your Children sanctifyed from the wombe as thou say'st John was when as all are by Nature the Children of wrath and except they be borne againe they cannot enter and therefore thou manifests that your Church is made up of unregenerate persons into which thou saist they are admitted by water and 20 or 30 yeares after they are thus baptised you preach repentance to them and this is the cause why the professors therein are earthly minded as thou complainest and therefore no Christian parents but blind carnall creatures who thinks it profits their Children to be admitted into such a Church and as the Children grow up they show what seal you have given them which is more like the marke of the beast then the seal of the covenant and therefore your prayers which thou talkest of are an abomination and availeth not and thus hast thou foamed out thy shame and folly to the sight of all but those who are blind and love to have it so for here is one of the maine points of your religion proved a meere delusion Qu. 22. P. Ans What is the estate and condition of a Christian And in thy Answer thou hast stolen the Apostles words which he speaks concerning this matter and says There are three ages steps and degrees of Christianity And the first Age step and Degree thou confessest is in Christ and begotten of the Father in the hatred of sin and love of righteousness and by him brought to the knowledge of Redemption from all iniquity and Renovation in all righteousness Here thou hast destroyed the whole faith of your visible Church for they generally believe Reply that they shall never be wholly set free from all iniquity nor be perfect in righteousness while they are upon the earth and if this be the lowest estate of Christianity to be in Christ and redeemed from all iniquity and begotten by the Father and renewed in all righteousness which is perfection in righteousness then by thy own confession none of them are Christians neither thou who art a teacher of them for thou hast been openly found in sin and iniquity as in lying covetousness lightness scornfulness oppression and deceipt as before is proved and now thou art again found a lier in saying that we know not the first estate of a Christian from the last but we are able to discern thee yet uncome to the first and therefore far off the last although in years an old man yet a Child can tell thee thy confusion therefore stop thy mouth thou

confusion of face and thus thy heart is adulterated from God into the earth 1 John 2.15 and the love of God abides not in thee who art in love with the world and thus thou loves thy Neighbour as thy selfe when for selfes-sake thou wouldst destroy him both body and soul and thus I need no other weapon to cut off thy head then what thou thy selfe bringest What is the difference betwixt the Jew outwardly 35. Qu. and the Jew inwardly and how shall we know the one from the other And in thy Answer thou sayst the Jew outwardly desires to make a faire shew in the flesh P. Ans or externall man with his outward Circumcision or Reformation Gal. 6.12.13 in voluntary worship and not sparing the body Col. 2.23 he observes the lesser Commands leaves the greater undone Mat. 23.23 in one poynt he goes beyond as thou sayst he payes Tithes exactly he makes clean the outside of the Cup and Platter Reply and makes all foul within Mat. 23.15 26. c. and so here is enough to manifest that thou art the man for here thou hast plainly read thy selfe and out of thy own mouth shalt thou be judged without contending or reviling as thou accusest us for thou hast been striving all along hitherto to set out thy selfe and make a faire out-side like a Reformation though the hypocrisie of thy heart thou couldest not thereby hide from the light and who are more strict in voluntary worship but you can pamper your bodies which showes your zeal is not so hot and instead of observing the lesser Commands and leaving the greater undone you leave all undone that will not stand for Selfe and preach up and uphold these things for Commands for which you have no Scripture and so preach for Doctrine the Commandements of man Mat. 15.9 as the outward Jew did but if one aske you for your proof for these things thou sayst it sufficeth you that there is no Command to the contrary yea for thy selfe covetous ends thou art not ashamed to fetch up old Commands that were fulfilled and so ended for a cover for thy deceipt as here also thou wouldst seem to do in accusing us for not paying Tithes exactly as the Pharisee did which I know is the great grief of thee and thy Brethren because we put not into your mouths Mich. 3.5 and therefore ye even prepare Warre against us but when the Pharisee said he payd Tithes they was then due for the Priesthood to which Tithes belonged was not yet fulfilled and therefore not changed and therefore it was his duty so to do but you Priests have so blinded the Pharisees and professors of these times that they are so exact in paying you Tithes and putting into your mouthes because you daub them up Ezek. 22.28 crying peace to them though they have no Command from God for it and you take it as exactly but you have but few such that you dare trust without a Law for as thou sayst the greatest part of them are earthly minded like their Teachers and how hast thou been cleansing thy outside of the Cup as if thou wast unblameable in this outward righteousness and so holy in thine own eyes that in words thou professest perfection and as if thou knewest the highest estate of Christianity and wast in the pure Religion without spots guided by Gods spirit usualy speaking by the motion of the Holy Ghost but even condemned thy Brethren and wouldst not answer for them but said thou was none of these Hirelings nor greedy Doggs c. but yet could not keep thy tongue for uttering forth the foulness of thy heart which hath overwhelmed thee all along and out of thy own mouth hast been proved a lyer and thus thou art plainly dealt with and judged out of thy own mouth and the Scriptures aforesaid which thou hast quoted shall stand and witness against thee But the Jew inwardly thou sayst trusts in the Lord Christ P. Ans and hath no confidence in the flesh but this thou dost not for then thou would'st trust him for thy maintenance and not stand in need of the arm of flesh upon which thou relyest neither dost thou first make clean the inside of the Cup that the outside may be fair also as thou sayst the inward Jew doth but though thou hast been much labouring with feigned words of thy own wisdom and selfe-justification to deck and adorn the outside painting it with Scripture-words and expressions yet thy inside is so foul that it defiles the outside also so that it makes thee odious to all but the blinde and manifests thy heart to be yet uncircumcised from sin and a stranger to the inward Crosse by which thou art not crucified to the world nor the world to thee for then it would not suffice thee to take the tenth part of the increase of the labour of the Labourers by the will of man without any Command from God as thou dost living at ease like a Droan upon the same and therefore thy heart is far off uprightness all which the Jew inwardly thou sayst doth witness and thus in a word thou seest there is as much difference betwixt the one and the other as betwixt Saul and Paul a persecutor and an executor of Christs Doctrine and way and thus in a word thou hast marked out thy selfe and art found out of the way and Doctrine of Christ persecuting despising and gain saying those that abide in it and thus by thy fruits art thou known as thou sayst the one may be known from the other And thus proud Goliah thy head is cut off with thy own sword Whether they that profess themselves the Ministers of Christ Que. 36. and cannot give account of their Ministry and faith but acts contrary to the Scripture the Doctrine and practise of the Ministers of Christ and teacheth people so be not such as abides not in the Doctrine of Christ but brings another Doctrine and so are the Witches Magicians and deceivers Antichrists and false Teachers who are not to be received but denyed And in thy Answer thou confessest P. Ans that they which are truly such in Doctrine and life as this Query describes may be truly termed spirituall Witches and Magicians and must be rejected as false Teachers and Antichrists Here thou hast passed the sentence unto thy own condemnation Reply for thou art the man as sufficiently is proved both out of thy own mouth and the Scriptures which thou thy selfe hast quoted as aforesaid and so henceforward let all people take notice that thou Thomas Draton of King Rippon in Huntingtonshire art a spirituall Witch and Magician and they are to reject thee as a false Teacher and an Antichrist as here out of thy own mouth is plainly proved and this him thou callest James Parnell doth testifie and deny thee with thy Sorcery Ribbonds Stones Waters Glasses Powders Charms and other like Enchantments

Teachers whom thou confessest are tyed to a text or Theme could tell how to pleafe the people and get gain without studying or speaking from a Text you would for the credit of your cause as thou sayst for I know nothing that ties you to it but your own covetous ends to make a gain of these Scriptures and to deceive the ignorant with feigned words 2 Pet. 2.3 whom Peter without study foretold of and therefore thou Hypocrite pretend no more to an infallible spirit but with the rest of thy Brethren confess thou art void of it as many of them have done for in such pretences thou art but the greater deceiver and thy folly doth the more appear Whether is it as lawfull now for Tradesmen 5. Query Shepheards or Plowmen to preach if they be led by the spirit of God as those that spake forth the Scripture And in thy answer thou sayst P. Answ if this was wholly granted James Parnell cannot claim any interest therein as thou conceivest for thou sayst he is neither Tradesman Plowman or Shepheard nor will take any course to maintain himself by his labour for he hath been tryed But herein James Parnell can plainly tell thee Reply thou art a Lyer for he followed a Trade with his Father untill the Lord by his spirit called him from it into his own work so I obeyed the word of the Lord and left my Father with his Trade Mat. 4.21 Mat. 10.37 38. as James and John did their Father in the Ship for he that will not forsake Father and Mother Lands and Livings Wife and Children and all for Christs sake is not worthy of him in which work neither thou nor any other can tax me for idleness but I believe my labour and diligence in the same is more offensive to you deceivers then if I had been Idle But he that would call me from this work that I am set about into the work of man I should answer him God must be served before man for if it had not been the will of God to call me forth into his work I should stall have served my earthly Father sooner then any other man notwithstanding the evill thoughts and conceivings of such like as thee who art given up to believe lies and tell lies but where is now thy infallible spirit who speakest by thy own conceivings and thus the thoughts of thy heart deceives thee and as for my maintenance I need not a Law to compel it as thou dost neither am chargeable to the World as thou art who by a Law of man takest nigh 300. l by the yeare of them therefore in this thou might have laid thy hand upon thy mouth for thou and hundreds more of thy Brethren never followed any honest Calling whereby to get an honest livelihood without being chargeable to the World but was from your youths brought up at Babylons Schools learning her wich-craft and sorcery thereby to deceive the Nations and through covetousness with feigned words make marchandize of them which you nowspare not And secondly thou grants P. Answ that if men be made of God spirituall whether Shepheards or Plowmen first they may teach But thirdly thou sayst every man that hath the spirit in some measure doth not attain to that height growth and degree that they did who gave forth the Scriptures and therefore may not as lawfully nor as infallibly teach as they did and thou sayst nor can thou discern clearly that the best amongst them called Quakers have yet reached that degree or dispensation of the spirit and after much dissembling speeches thou manifests thy light and frothy spirit still despising me because of my youth but thy words are not worth mentioning And thu swhen thou opens thy mouth Reply concerning the Spirit thou manifests thy folly and ignorance of the spirit so that a Babe may comprehend thee and tell thee of thy folly and when thou thinkest of thy beard or age as thou sayst confusion of face may cover thee for though every one that hath the spirit in some measure doth not attain to that height grouth and degree that they did who gave forth the Scripture yet it doth not follow that none doth attain to that grouth height and degree and they that have attained to the same spirit in a measure and by the same spirit are moved and called forth may as lawfully and as infallibly teach as they did in their measures for the same spirit is infallible in the least measure and its call is lawful and thus thou shewest thou was never called nor led by it who art so ignorant of it and as here also doth further appear in that thou confessest thou discernest not the people called Quakers and therefore art blind and from thee the secrets of God are hid and it doth not follow that they are ever the less spiritual but rather more because thou canst not discern them who pretends thy selfe a spiritual man and thus they are attained to that degree they can discern thee to be a blind guide and deceiver of the World and therefore is thy spirit the more against them for all thy flattering and dissembling speeches from thy hypocritical heart who bends thy Tongue like a Bow against them uttering forth lies in hypocrisie and with thy sconrful spirit reproachest me with lies but it was thy Generation that quaked for fear of the downfall of their Kingdom and therefore persecuted me and imprisoned me yet their fear did not overtake me for I was made as willing to suffer as they was to inflict as knowing it was for his cause who will make you all to quake and tremble who lift up your heels against him and as thou compares Cambridg to Jericho so the curse of Jericho shal come upon it for its whordom and sorceries and stifneckedness against the Lord and his anointed and though thou thus scornest me and despisest me because of my youth yet it is because thou knowest not the Scripture nor the power of God Whether any are the Ministers or Messengers of Christ but those that are guided by his spirit Query 6. and abide in his Doctrine as the holy men of God was in Scripture and whether the wind doth not now blow where it listeth And in thy answer to the first part P. Ans thou grants that none are the true Ministers Messengers of Christ but those that are in some measure guided by his spirit and abide in his Doctrine But secondly thou sayst men may think that they have that spirit and yet be led by the lying spirit as Zedekiah who smote Michajah was 1 King 22.24 Herein thou markest out thy selfe for a deceiver who pretends to the spirit Reply and it is the lying spirit as is before proved and so art shut out from the Ministers and Messengers of Christ who art not guided by his spirit and therefore abides not in his Doctrine as is before proved by

and slander his Servants and Messengers which so impudently dost it to him who is our Lord and Master but as for paying tribute 3. to Kings and Goverours in their places it is allowed of by Scripture which thine is not and they are set about temporall affaires and are the ordinance of God for that purpose for to Governe and Protect the people in bodily peace and quietnesse which if they neglect will be laid to their charge but thou and thy brethren pretend to spirituall affaires and therefore are to have your rule and example from Christ and his Ministers who was set about spirituall affaires the which thou canst not but would creepe into any hole to hide thy selfe and thy brethren from the light but by it are you found out and seene to be the deceivers who out of the doctrine of Christ are found and therefore not to be owned nor received And secondly thou sayst thou art no such greedy Dogge P. Ans whatsoever foul-mouthed Curs do bark to the contrary for thou sayst thou contents thy selfe with thy legall sallary which yet thou sayst is not contrary to evangelicall wherein thou hast already been proved a Lier sufficiently Here thy foul mouth thou hast opened wide who accounts the Prophet Isaiah Reply a foul mouth'd Cur who this Language first did speak unto the false Prophets in whose steps thou art found and therefore unto thee the same Language belongeth who seeks for thy gain from thy Quarters as they did and what hast thou else manifested but greediness of gain all along Isay 56. who rather then thou would yield thy error in it though thou couldst not produce one Scripture that would stand for it yet thou runnest to old Histories Records thereby to maintain it contrary to Scripture therefore with shame confusion of face might thou say thou contents thy self with thy legall sallary who hast nigh 300 l. by the yeare and yet thou wouldst have more if thou couldst get it thou art so greedy as may be well understood by thy saying that in former time that the Bishops and Pastors had not only a setled maintenance of that value but of a great deal more which is an unheard off thing in all the Scripture and therefore thy own mouth confest what greedy Dogs you Preist have bin since your beginning yet with the deceit of thy heart thou wouldst stil cover but the day doth make you manifest to be such who run and the Lord never sent you and therefore you profit not the people at all Therefore what is thy teaching and warning of the people which thou here boasts of and therefore art found one of the Dreamers and studiers and mutterers who speaks a Divination of thy own brain and not from the mouth of the Lord and so feeds the people with wind and aire therefore silence thou deceiver for going about to excuse thy selfe from these things as if thou wast more holy then thy Brethren for in so doing thy lying and hypocrisie doth but the more appear and therefore this shall serve to prove thee a lyer in all the rest of thy excuses and it is not uncharitable nor censorious to tell thee so though thou so accusest me but a lie in thy mouth is no wonder Whether ever thou laboured with thy hands to make the Gospel free and without charge Qu. 15. as Paul a Minister of the Gospel did And in thy answer thou dost not at all resolve my Querie but shufflest to and fro to hide thy selfe P. Ans and excuse thy selfe by pleading Pauls power in 1 Cor. 9.6 and saist that Christ your Master did not injoyne you so to doe which to prove thou quotes Luk. 10.7 and Deut. 25.4 and also pleades that in 2 Tim. 2.4 and also pleades a liberty by the Councells and Synods in the Church in former ages c. Yet all this doth not prove that ever thou laboured with thy hands to make the Gospel free and without charge Reply which any who reades these Scriptures may see and by thy silence in the same judge thee guilty and to be out of the Apostles practice and therefore these Scriptures will witnesse against thee which thou hast quoted for thou art not as Paul and Barnabas was neither wast called to the Ministry as they was neither preachest freely as they did neither labourest with thy hands as Paul did but onely makest a trade and a gaine of the Apostles words for thy own ends and therefore what hast thou to do to mention Christ or his Ministers who art so plainly found out of their practise or to call Christ thy Master who art thy selfe called Master and so robs him of his honour and art not in his Doctrine who saith be not ye called Masters and so art none of his and therefore hast nothing to do with that liberty which he hath given to his faithfull labourers whom he himselfe hath called into his Vineyard and as for that Scripture in Luk. 10.7 it is not against labour but for labour before thou canst have thy hire but thou would'st have it and be maintained in Idlenesse by others labours as the Clergy men as thou callest them in England are who are no Ministers of Christ who are called of men Master and so are out of his doctrine in the steps of the Pharises whom the wo is unto and therefore in this these Councels and Synods as thou call'st them in your Church in former ages have acted contrary to Scripture in ordaineing that you should not worke and labour with your hands for your selves and your families but that you should live in Pride and Idlenesse by the sweate of others browes to be maintained as you are which ordinance is not of God but of man by which you stand and how hast thou before falsly accused me for not working though I am not chargeable to the world and now thou art striveing by Scripture wresting and false applying and all the waies thou canst for to excuse thy selfe from labouring with thy handes as the Apostle did though thou and thy family are alltogether chargeable to the world All which Scriptures shall stand against thee for they all maintaine working before the benefit of the worke come to them be it spirituall or temporall for the Oxe treades not out the come without labour but what corne have you Clergy men trodden forth and what spirituall things have you sowne and what Gospel you have preached this many yeares in England doth not the fruits of your Ministry condemne you and witnesse against you to be such as run and the Lord never sent you and so the curse follows you and is upon your Ministry and therefore profits not the people at all but as drones lives upon the painefull labour of others yea though you do not labour with your hands yet who more intangles themselves in the affaires of this world then you that calls your selves Clergy men both by

law and cunning craft and deceipt and bargaining and oppressing thereby to make your selves rich with the things of this life yea what thing is there in this Nation to get riches by though never so unbeseeming spirituall men but you have a hand in it and therefore none of those spirituall Souldiers which Paul speakes of in 2 Tim. 2.4 therefore silence thou deceiver for medling with the Scripture with thy Babylonious language as prohibit Mechanick Synod and Clergy which are the words of mans wisdom and contrary to the plaine language of the Scripture out of which thou art shut in Babylon where thou wast bred with thy Clergy as thou callest them Whether thou dost not walke in the steps of the Scribes and Pharises who art called of men Master or Doctor and hast the cheifest seate in the Synagogues Que. 16. and uppermost rooms at feasts and greetings in the markets contrary to the practise of the Apostles and so art under the woe which Christ pronounced against such yea or nay And here thou wouldest shuffle off with Questioning instead of Answering and saist P. Ans what if Christ gave the name of Master to Nicodemus John 3.10 and Luke the name of Doctor to Gamaliel in Act 5.3.4 and thou saist Is it then the giving or taking of these names which Christ forbiddeth or the arrogant using of them out of an high or proud Spirit that desires to be Idolized and thou confessest the word Rabby signifies Doctor or Master which names thou saist was familiarly given both in the Old and New Testament which to prove thou quotes Eccles 12.11 Eph. 4.11 1 Cor. 12.28 Reply The 89 and 90 Que are answered in this Reply and thy 92 Query also Here thy blindnesse doth appeare and thou wilt need no other proofe against thee but thy own words though here thou would'st go about to slander Christ and his Apostles whom thou art not worthy to name neither dost thou thereby answer my Query but would justify that which Christ cried woe against therfore a Minister of Antichrist art found to which the woe belonges for that Scripture in John 3.10 doth not prove that Christ called Nicodemus Master as thou wouldest faine slander him neither doth that Act. 5.34 prove that Luke gave Gamaliel the name of Doctor but in way of declaration what he was accounted amongst the Jewes as any that reades with understanding may see yea thou thy selfe canst not deny it but that thou would'st be glad of any thing to shelter thy deceipt but Christ expresly forbids his to be be called Master and therefore it is concluded that you take these names unto your selves from an arrogancy and pride of Spirit that you might be Idolized as is well knowne how you swell and are puffed up in wrath and rage if you be not so called by those you account your inferiors or else you would not own it being Christ hath so expresly forbidden it to his Ministers and you professing your selves to be his Ministers the word Minister signifies servant Paul who was his Minister said he made himselfe servant to all but you would be Masters over all 1 Cor 9.19 bearing rule by your meanes though hired as Servants yet more unreasonable unjust for you will have it of them you do no work for and also whatsoever thou saist Doctor or Master signifies Christ hath forbidden it and therefore in useing of it thou art out of the doctrine of Christ and the woe is unto thee and the more for wresting the Scripture to maintaine it and uphold it which Christ hath cried down and it is well knowne to them that are not wilfully blind that Master or Doctor are names that are given and taken amongst you Clergy-men as you call your selves as Titles of honour witnesse your degrees in your Nurseries of deceipt which you call Vniversities as first Bachellor then from Bachellor to Master of Arts and from that to Bachellor of Divinity and from that to Doctor of Divinity which highest Title is given to thee and therefore it is no wonder that thou so pleads for it but the least Child of light will judge these traditions to be upheld by the Pride and arrogancy of the flesh that would be Idolized but the old man must needs plead for his life neither doth these Scriptures in Eph. 4.11 and 1 Cor. 12.38 at all advantage thee for neither Doctor nor Master is mentioned in these Scriptures and thus thou art ignorant of the letter then far unfit to be a teacher of others which thou dost assume to thy selfe by the name of Doctor according to thy own meaning And as for the cheife seates in the synagogues and uppermost roomes at feasts P. Ans some thou saist that are worthy were allowed them by Christ himselfe which to prove thou quotes Lnk. 14.7.8 c. Mark 5.22 And by Luke Ast. 13.15 and Chap. 18.8.17 and as for salutations they are allowed thou saist as well in the market places as any where else This is the truest word that thou hast yet spoken in one respect though from a false Spirit Reply for your heathenish customs and salutations are allowed-of no where by the Scripture neither hast thou brought any proofe to the contrary and it is also easily discerned you rather chuse them in the markets or in Pudlique to be seene of men that you might be accounted Courteous and looked upon for your breeding witnesse your congying and bowing with your hats off in admiration and Idolizing of one anothers persons wherein you exalt your selves above the Angel who would not suffer John to bow unto him Rev. 22.8.9 but said he was his fellow servant therefore let this judge you and condemn you in these practises which by you are used from an ambitions and an in ordinate desire of them and therefore are the most unworthy as thou confessest the Scribes and Pharises were and therefore art out of thy own mouth judged 1 John 5.19 although thou wold'st cast it upon the Quakers as thou callest them but we can justly cleare our selves and cast it into thy own bosome for we use no such heathenish customs yet we can justly say with John we are of God and the whole world lieth in wickednesse which thou accounts an exhalting of our selves and in that thou belyest Christ and the Scriptures in saying he allowed these things to any which he cryed downe thy impudency doth the more appeare that thou wouldest not stick to bely us whom thou callest Quakers for none of these Scriptures which thou quotes to uphold the chiefest seates in the Synagogue uppermost roomes at feastes doth at all concerne the matter but onely Luk. 14.7 c. which Christ spoke as a parable to the Pharises who loved the uppermost roomes at feasts which also may fitly be applyed to you now who take the uppermost reome How thy 9th Query is answered Mat. 20.25 26 27. Jam. 12.

which thou who art given up to believe lies impudently would cast upon him and those thou callest his confederacy who abhorrs all such abhomination and therefore returns it into thy own bosom from whence it comes And thus thou sayst by clear Scripture and experience Priest thou hast answered the bold Queries of him who is known to the World to be out a boy or stripling As thou begannest with a lie in thy mouth Reply so also thou endest with a lie for by plain Scripture and true experience thou hast not answered these Queries for in many things thou mayst finde no Scripture at all in the least to countenance thee then thou pleadest old stories and Records and saith also it sufficeth thee that there is no Scripture to the contrary but thou shalt know that in any thing that thou dost in which the Scripture will not stand for thee it will in the same stand against thee and also when thou didst wrest any Scripture for thy own ends it was made use of to witness against thee in the same and how hast thou answered by thy own experience when as thou stole the Apostles Declaration and set it down even word for word to prove the estate of a Christian when as it was proved out of thy own mouth that thou art not come to witness in possession the lowest estate of a Christian and thus thou might have been ashamed to boast of thy Age who art found such an impudent lyer as to say by clear Scripture and experience thou answered these Queries which are not so bold as true in which all that are not wilfully blinde will witness against thee and thus him thou contemnest as a boy or stripling is made able to cut off thy head with thy own sword and therefore henceforward let shame and confusion of face cover thee for boasting of thy age who yet knowest not That the wisdom and power of the Almighty stands not in the number of years or the arm of flesh but the righteous are as bold as a Lion Prov. 28.1 And now to thy Counter-Queries as thou callest hem which for a Compeiment thou biddest me give hee leave to propound but meaned not to stay to know whether I did so or nay First concerning honour and respect to be given to men And to the substance of these Querie I answer that Christ himselfe cries down all earthly honour and admiration and respect of mans Person and onely attolerates the honour that is of God and cometh from God and belongs unto the seed of God which is not known amongst you Children of this world whose honour and glory is of this world in whom the seed of the Serpent rules head to which no worship not honour is due the which all the world wonders after worship the beast his image but none of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted doth at all maintaine your heathenish breeding worship honour manners and respect as you call it but now he is risen and reignes to whom all Nations must bow to whom alone belongs all honour praise dominion and thanks therefore silence proud flesh that would goe about to rob him it s you that are offended in him and persecute him because he cannot bow unto you and as for that Scripture Honour all men I answer with another Scripture which thou hast quoted Psl 15.4 in whose eies a vile person is contemned here all men are not honoured but in the Lord therefore you that abide not in the doctrine of Christ must not be received nor bidden Gods speed And as for that Scripture Lev. 19.22 which thou quotest in thy seventh Query I answer with Solomons words wisdom is the gray haire and an undefiled life is old age Wisd 4.8.9 and this is not without honour though by the world condemned And to thy 9 Query whether standing bare 9 Query with the head uncovered before the Magistrates be not a decent posture sence it is a posture that the Apostle requires in the behalfe of God which to prove thou quotest 1 Cor. 11.4.5 6 7 8. I answer no man must be honoured in respect to his person Ans and the honour of justice and equity lyeth not in the putting off the hate or keeping it on but it is a heathenish custome contrary to any Scripture rule or example and therefore not a decent but an unseemly posture as thou callest it for men so to adore one anothers persons and that Magistrate that seeks for or owns such a thing standes in his own will and is partiall and rules not for God but for himselfe and such God doth not stile as Gods upon earth as thou say'st but rather unjust stewards and thou blind guide read in the 3 verse of the Chapter aforesaid Jam. 1.2 and see what is the head of the man but thy head is the Serpent and according to thy own meaning most of ye Priests condemnes your selves in this who commonly have your heads covered with Caps when you pretend to pray or prophesy And that Scripture 1 Tim. 6.11 which thou hast quoted in thy 10. Querie and Rom. 10.10 which thou hast quoted in thy 11. Querie was not spoken to the world who accounts man in gay clothing and a Gold Ring as a superior and a man in vile and poore rayment as an inferior and accordingly prefers them respects them contrary to Scripture and you leaders cause them to erre therefore wrest not the Scripture for your own ends lest in turn to your destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 Whether the pronounce of the second person Q. 12. singular may not out of the Hebrew and Greek be as well rendered you as thou especially since in the plurall number it is alwayes rendered ye not thee the Dutch tongue whence we borrow much of our language hath you Here thou sonne of Babylon Ans who art thy carnall reason in thy languages confused who stumblest at the plaine language thou what is that in thee that cannot beare the word thou which is the single proper language to a single person as well as you which thou confessest is a borrowed language thus the Hebrews the Grecians the Romans the Dutch will condemn you who are content with their naturall language Whether it hath not beene ever accounted rude Q. 13. and Rusticall in this Nation for inferior men to speake unto others their superiors by the word thou and not you and also to stand with their hats on unlesse leave were given them so to do Thou blind sot thou hast laide thy selfe naked to the world with thy rude and rusticall Querie it was never accounted so but by Dives-nature which is swelled with Pride and arrogancy yea that which would be above God which must come downe into the pit Is not God the superior of all then why do you give unto him that rude and rusticall language as thou callest it here thou manifests thy selfe amongst

the Heathen who know not God who excercise Lordship and authority one of another and so you rule in your own wills Mat. 20.25 and would not suffer your fellow creatures to put their hats on their heads but as you give them leave and so are out of the doctrine of Christ with your rude and rusticall Spirits And was not thou the language betwixt God and Adam and betwixt God and Moses and so all along the Scripture to one particular person Gen. 3.11.12 Exod. 10 11.12 then whether or nay is thine a rusticall proud Spirit that canst not receive the language thou givest unto God and thus thou hast sufficiently fomed out thy shame and I am sure now thou speakest not by the motion of the Holy-Ghost Whether ever Christ or his Apostles taught us to alter or violate the civill speeches and customs of the Nation where we live Que. 14 by which our reverence to others is expressed and accordingly expected if not commanded also and thou quotest 1 Cor. 10.32 Christ is not your teacher for out of his doctrine ye are found in the pride of your hearts Answ contemning his speech and language and are not contented with your naturall language but borrowes of others in which custome we are not to follow you out of the language of the Scripture and so here by thy Querie you expresse no reverence of God because to him you use the word Thou which you do account an uncivill speech therefore now see what is that which takes offence at that which God accepts it must needs be of proud Lucifer and that same took offence at the Apostle who said Give no offenre yet the truth is a stumbling stone and a Rock of offence therefore now see how thou stumblest at the noon day Isa 59.10 Thy next is concerning Salutations at your meetings with others or departings from others Unto which I answer that your heathenish customs traditions and salutations I do deny and know them to be contrary to Scripture for saith it let him that nameth the name of God depart from iniquity therefore you that are in iniquity do take his name in vaine and make a custom and by-word of it amongst your selves when you meet with or depart from one another and so your Children learne it at you and by imitation use his name before they do know whether there be a God or nay And to that in Ruth 2.4 and to that in Psal 1 29.8 which thou hast quoted in thy 15. and 16. Qu. I answer They that there named the name of the Lord knew him and that in the Psalm will witnesse against you that you have nothing to do to name his name nor to have such words spoken to you who know him not and read what God saith to the wicked in Psal 16. and why call ye me Lord and do not the things which I say but the salutations of the Saints I own who are not by custom lead Luk. 6.46 And to Math. 10.12 and Luk. 10.5 which here thou hast quoted I answer that you are no Ministers nor Messengers of Christ who are found out of his doctrine therefore peace is not given you to speake but as false Prophets you speak it to that which is for death because that puts into your mouthes and even prepares war against those that do witnesse the Son of peace Thy next is concerning meate drinke and apparel And to thy first Query of that I answer All the creatures of God are good in their places and all things for the use of man who dwells in the moderation but cursed to you who live under the curse in the lust under whom the creation grones who know not the pure wisdom that made all things 1 Cor. 10.31 Rom. 14.17 to teach you how to use all things to the glory of God and therefore are out of the right and thy 23.24 Qu. are here answered but you are they whose Kingdom stands in meats and drinks and apparel who are taking thought what to eat what to drink and where withall to be clothed math 6 15. And to this Querie Qu. 22. where hath God enjoyned men to drink water in any part of his word I answer thou may'st be ashamed to boast of thy age who askest such a childish Querie I might as well ask thee where God injoyned men to drink beare for water is the originall of all drinks for in the daies of old water was the common drink hast thou not read of Jacobs well where Christ drunk then who art thou that despisest water it is a signe thou servest the lust but if any drink water who know the goodnesse of it what is that to thee who injoynes thee to drink water And in thy 25. Querie thou answerest thy selfe And this Querie is Whether one may not satisfy the flesh even in over fasting and overwatching the body which to prove thou quotest Col. 2.23 Qu. 23. But I perceive thou wilt have a care of that who hast been pleading so much for the body which is the most thou mindest thy zeale is not so hot but they that dwell in the power of God are free from this and yet know how to keepe under the body and not satisfying the last but you that know not the Creator trust in the Creature And here thou askest Qu. 27. whether are not the Saints to sanctifie their meats and drinks by Prayer and Thanksgiving before and after they eat and drink which to prove thou quotest 1 Tim. 4.5 Rom. 14.16 To the pure all thingsare pure Ans but thy prayers are abomination who art in the lust but which of these Scriptures maintains your Custom after meat Tit. 1.15 but the Saints receives nothing of God Mal. 1.2 but with Thanksgiving and glory to God but your blessings are cursed and here is thy 28. Query answered also Whether the Apostles Interdiction be absolute against all Ornaments Qu 29. or Comparative onely and thou hast quoted a Scripture in 1 Pet. 3.3 4. which answereth thee where thou mayst read what Ornaments he approves of and here thy 30.31.32 Query is answered but moderation in every thing I own but what is wast is for the lust both in Kings Princes and great personages as thou callest them but with us there is no respect of persons neither taking thought what to eat what to drink or wherewithall to be cloathed as the Children of this world do amongst whom thou art found but our Kingdom is not of this world and Israell after the flesh was a figure of Israell after the spirit therefore now read their adorning if thou canst and remember no Creature was made for the lust though lustfull men abuse them Thy next is concerning Pride And thy first Question of this is whether pride doth lie in Apparel though there may be much wastfulness vanity and ostentation committed therein or inwardly in the heart and minde of the poor

as well as of the rich and thou quotest Mark 7.21.22 23. The Scripture which thou hast quoted Answ doth answer thy Question where pride lieth but Apparel is a dead thing and no pride in it but the vanity and wastfulness which thou confessest is committed therein figures forth the pride of the heart and where riches is this is showne therefore you Priests look at home and judge your selves though poor and rich be both in one nature before the Regeneration Eph. 2 3. Whether one of the greatest things that puffs up the hearts of men be not knowledge Qu 34. whether it be true or false and imagined only and thou quotest 1 Cor. 8.1 2. You that are carnall and fleshly Ans are puffed up with your fleshly notionall knowledge and in that yo usteal from others experiences but the true knowledge of the spirit puffs not up but judges down that which would be exalted but this unto thee is a mystery because thy knowledge hath blinded thy eye who art confused in thine Imaginations so read thy selfe in the Scripture aforesaid which thou hast quoted Whether another thing that exalts a man in pride Qu 35. and makes him despise his Brethren and perhaps those that are better then himself be not a Conceited selfe-chosen holiness seeing such a proud Saint is brought in Isay 65.5 which thing also thou sayst is verified in the Pharisee and the Publican Luke 18.15 Thou hast here answered thy selfe with these Scriptures wherein thou mayst read thy selfe Answ who thinkest thy selfe more holy then thy Brethren and would only answer for thy selfe and not for thy Brethren though thou art found in the same practices but thou blinde Pharisee he was not a Saint which was spoken of in Isay 65.5 but he was a Saint which said We are of God and the whole world lieth in wickedness 1 John 5.19 and here also thy 36. Question is answered with the Scripture which thou hast quoted 1 Tim. 3.6 who art a false Teacher doting about Questions And here thou askest whether a young man be not the pronest of all other Que. 31. to be thus seduced and puffed up and thou quotest 1 Tim. 3.6 Thy spite is much against youth but him thou shootes at Ans thou canst not hit because thou art blinde and canst not divide the word aright but thou mayst plainly have readthy selfe in that Chapter aforesaid and finde that thou art the novice who knowes not the truth but despisest the young man because of his youth which is contrary to Paul 1 Tim. 4.12 And thy next is to maintain Swearing And thy first Query of this is whether it be lawfull now Qu. 31. in the new Testament to take an Oath before lawful Authority to put an end to controversies and thou quotest Heb. 6.16 This which thou goest about now to uphold manifests thee an enemy to Christ and his Doctrine Ans who saith Swear not at all for saith he it hath been said in the old time thou shalt not forsweare thy selfe but shalt perform unto the Lord thine Oath but I say unto you Swear not at all but let your yea be yea and your nay be nay for what is more is evill now here he doth not only forbid false swearing but also all swearing Mat. 5.33.34 c. and also the Apostle James doth the same in James 5.12 both which Scriptures thou hast quoted in thy 39. Query and so here out of the Doctrine of Christ again thou art found in the evill and all you that cannot believe one another without swearing and so are more then yea and nay and what is more is evill saith Christ now read your condemnation and as for that in Heb. 6. there the Apostle was speaking by way of comparison how the Lord made a Covenant and confirmed it with an oath which is Christ Jesus the everlasting Oath who saith swear not at all and the Apostle brought a comparison from men in strife and controversie but this doth not at all maintain swearing now for strife and controversie is out of the Doctrine of Christ and such runs into the swearing and into the evill amongst whom thou art found upholding the evill and opposing Christs Doctrine and so art found in the condemnation of the Devil James 5.12 this was not the Saints practise for in the new Covenant neither strife nor swearer is and thus you leaders cause men to erre by upholding that which Christ is against here thy 39. Query is answered Here thou askest whether Paul himself did not swear Que. 40. in these words 2. Cor. 11.10 as the truth of Christ is in me c. Oh thou enemy of truth that would heare scandall and accuse Paul for swearing that so thou might uphold swearing but by what doth he here swear this is plain Language And thy next is concerning outward materiall Churches and the publick exercises therein Most of these Queries are answered in my Reply to thy Answer to my 17th Query Answ wherein I have declared why I object against your Steeple-houses which thou callest Churches Here thou askest if such meetings may not be mixt Assemblies Qu. 44. of learned unlearned of believers and unbelievers and thou quotes 1 Cor. 14.23 But the un-believers are not owned by the believers Answ though he come amongst the believers as in 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16 17 18. then the Ministers are far off being maintained by unbelievers as thou art for though thou confessest the greatest part are earthly minded and worldly minded thou yet art maintained by them and I am sure they that come into the true faith which purifieth the heart come out from amongst you so that you are not much mixed for you are all one nature like Priest like people And in thy 47. 48. Query thou askest if Christ and his Apostles did not frequent the Synagogues Yea they did Answ and so do we your Idoll-Temples but therein the Jews will condemn you who suffered them to speak as in that Scripture which thou hast quoted in Acts 13 14 15. which shall stand and witness against you who will not suffer us to speak in your Steeple-houses but suffers your flocks to hale us forth and fall upon us like Wolves and your Magistrates to hale us to prison therefore read your condemnation you persecuters and thy 49. Query is answered already with the other aforesaid Here thou askest Qu. 50. if the Prophet did not complain to God against the profaners and destroyers of the Synagogues in Psal 74.4 5 6 7. This Scripture which thou hast quoted doth answer thee but it doth not uphold your Idolls Temples Answ who worship you know not what wherein you teach for Doctrine the traditions of men and there are found in the steps of the Pharisees offering up your abominations as Christ marked you out in Mat. 6.5 where he meant as he spoke and all you do

and yielded to the deceipt of their heares and so gave occasion to such as thee who wait for occasion to blaspheme the truth but it is no new thing 1 Tim. 14.15 but the same which the Scripture declares of in divers places therefore saith Christ offences must come but woe unto them by whom they do come Mat. 26 Mat. 27.5 for there was then many such as thee in that age who as thou dost waited for occasion to blaspheme the truth but if thou hadst been then how would'st thou have accused Christ who had but twelve Apostles and one of them betrayed him and then hanged himselfe and another denied him therefore let this stop thy mouth for speaking evil of the things thou knowest not and as for Spencer and Gilpin whom thou here nominates the truth is sufficiently cleared of them in other Books and the Priests have owned them as they did Judas which is the name of all that turn from the truth after they have received it Have so many fallen into distraction or madness in any Sect Qu 100. or under any Doctrine as there hath done amongst your hearers especially where the number of Disciples was no more Look at home and answer thy selfe witness your Universities Ans as you call them for it is the fruit of your studies who would finde out that by your wit and wisdom which the Lord hath hid from you and all that you cannot settle in security and blindness you lead them into madness confusion and distraction if they do not in time forsake you as many will witness at this day that they are led by you into such a Wildernesse that they know not which way to get out neither do you know how to direct them for you are in confusion your selves Mat. 15 14. and so the blinde leads the blinde into the ditch therefore this might have stopped thy mouth from falsly accusing us but I remember truth was ever accounted madness and folly by the blinde World who know not that Godliness is great gain And in thy 94. Query thou wast questioning the truth of our Doctrine because of the multitude of Disciples and now by the fewness and thus thou contradicts thy selfe and then after much of thy filthy stuffe which all along thou hast vented forth of thy old bottle against us which upon thee I have returned again from whence it came thou seemest to accuse our book but dost not shew wherein and therefore I passe it by as knowing thy lying spirit and then thou stealest the Apostles words for a Cloak for the deceipt of thy heart 2 Cor. 13.7 8 9. which the Apostle spoke from a true and upright heart but thou from a false deceiptful heart as all along hath been sufficiently proved and thy prayers to be abomination and that thou hast nothing to do to name the name of God in thy mouth who art a worker of iniquity and a stranger unto God who art found out of his Doctrine 2 Tim. 2 19. 2 Ioh. 9. and therefore with this Scripture I shall mark thee 2 John 9.10 that all may know thee and turn away their eares from thee who art not to be received but denied and therefore whosoever receives thee or thy Doctrine the same departs from the Doctrine of Christ and therefore let this be a Caveat to all people to whom it shall come and look upon thee to be as Anathema Maranatha 1 Cor. 16.22 This from a friend to all souls witnessed in all consciences by the eternall Light of God by which I am known and received I. P. THE END