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for_o the_o office_n of_o be_v advocate_n for_o we_o viz._n to_o recommend_v open_a and_o plead_v our_o cause_n for_o we_o and_o procure_v our_o prayer_n to_o be_v grant_v none_o can_v effectual_o mediate_v for_o we_o but_o he_o who_o do_v redeem_v we_o he_o only_o can_v be_v our_o advocate_n who_o be_v the_o propitiation_n for_o our_o sin_n which_o be_v jesus_n only_o who_o for_o the_o more_o effectual_a execution_n of_o his_o office_n of_o advocate_n after_o he_o have_v offer_v himself_o a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o our_o sin_n be_v advance_v to_o sit_v on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n the_o father_n rom._n 8.34_o where_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o person_n that_o die_v for_o we_o and_o therefore_o as_o jesus_n alone_o die_v for_o our_o sin_n and_z rise_v again_o for_o our_o justisication_n so_o for_o the_o application_n of_o these_o benefit_n and_o privilege_n to_o we_o he_o only_o sit_v at_o god_n right-hand_n and_o make_v intercession_n for_o we_o this_o office_n be_v as_o proper_a and_o
confess_v explicite_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n invocation_n of_o saint_n depart_v be_v not_o express_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n for_o which_o he_o assign_v his_o reason_n such_o as_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n because_o the_o jew_n be_v incline_v to_o idolotry_n therefore_o there_o be_v danger_n of_o idolatry_n in_o the_o practice_n and_o the_o father_n be_v in_o limbo_n not_o then_o in_o heaven_n bellarm._n his_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr sanct._n beatit_fw-fr c._n 19_o sect._n item_n etc._n etc._n 20._o sect._n atque_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la herein_o be_v of_o his_o mind_n not_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o two_o reason_n first_o lest_o the_o gentile_n shall_v upon_o their_o conversion_n think_v themselves_o therefore_o the_o practice_n may_v be_v just_o suspect_v and_o be_v scandalous_a which_o the_o prudent_a and_o charitable_a romanist_n shall_v avoid_v oblige_v to_o worship_n the_o inferior_a godling_n or_o demon_n as_o former_o they_o 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without_o mince_v the_o matter_n invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v neque_fw-la express_v nec_fw-la involute_fw-la neither_o clear_o nor_o covert_o declare_v in_o scripture_n which_o be_v also_o 34._o also_o which_o be_v also_o affirm_v to_o be_v unknown_a in_o the_o old_a testament_n pigh_a contr_n ratisb_n l._n 13._o suar._n m._n 3._o th._n q._n 52._o disp_n 41_o 42._o sect._n 1._o p._n 514._o not_o in_o the_o new_a salmer_n m._n 1._o tim._n 2._o disp_n 8._o sect._n postremo_fw-la not_o in_o the_o gospel_n horantius_fw-la loc_fw-la cath._n l._n 3._o c_o 1.31_o not_o use_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n peres_n de_fw-fr trad._n p._n &_o the_o cult_a sanctor_n s._n clara_n expos_fw-la paraphr_n divine_n of_o collen_n censur_n p._n 250._o &_o antid_v p._n 34._o affirm_v by_o pighius_fw-la suarez_n peres_n de_fw-fr aiala_n sanct._n clara_n and_o the_o divine_n of_o colen_n 2._o from_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o learned_a interpreter_n who_o expound_v those_o text_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o bold_a sort_n presume_v not_o without_o the_o guilt_n of_o perjury_n to_o wrest_v and_o corrupt_v to_o their_o own_o sense_n as_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n have_v do_v and_o as_o protestant_n do_v now_o which_o will_v appear_v by_o view_v the_o most_o considerable_a produce_v by_o they_o the_o first_o be_v fetch_v from_o gen._n 32.24_o etc._n etc._n but_o bonfrer_n confess_v many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n understand_v this_o text_n of_o jacob_n wrestle_v with_o god_n and_o so_o do_v the_o ancient_a rabbin_n which_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o follow_a word_n and_o by_o hosea_n 12.3_o 4_o 5_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o vatab._n and_o ar._n mout_fw-mi to_o this_o they_o add_v gen._n 48.16_o insist_v first_o on_o that_o clause_n the_o angel_n which_o redeem_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n but_o 343._o but_o com._n in_o gen._n 23._o piega_n com._n in_o apoc._n 8._o sect._n 2._o p._n 343._o pererius_n acknowledge_v that_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n interpret_v this_o of_o christ_n though_o he_o think_v otherwise_o and_o be_v resolve_v without_o any_o respect_n to_o his_o oath_n bind_v he_o to_o follow_v their_o interpretation_n to_o understand_v it_o of_o a_o angel_n proper_o so_o call_v because_o say_v he_o christ_n be_v never_o precise_o style_v a_o angel_n but_o always_o with_o a_o additament_n as_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o other_o romish_a interpreter_n conceive_v this_o to_o be_v a_o groundless_a conjecture_n viegathus_n censure_v it_o some_o say_v he_o of_o our_o writer_n affirm_v that_o christ_n be_v never_o call_v a_o a_o angel_n absolute_o and_o simple_o in_o the_o scripture_n but_o this_o be_v a_o mistake_n in_o they_o it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o it_o be_v collect_v and_o infer_v from_o the_o consequent_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v confident_a the_o angel_n mention_v rev._n 8.4_o be_v christ_n and_o pintus_fw-la 81._o pintus_fw-la pintus_fw-la conc._n in_o loc_n riber_n come_v in_o hebr._n 7._o n._n 81._o that_o the_o angel_n speak_v of_o dan._n 3.28_o be_v christ_n and_o ribera_n that_o the_o angel_n speak_v of_o zech._n 1.12_o be_v christ_n hereby_o than_o it_o be_v manifest_v the_o protestant_n follow_v the_o ancient_a catholic_n doctor_n in_o their_o interpretation_n of_o this_o clause_n and_o perer._n with_o the_o other_o râ—manists_n who_o urge_v these_o word_n in_o defence_n of_o their_o practice_n of_o angel_n invocation_n desert_n and_o reject_v they_o and_o most_o certain_o side_n with_o the_o arrian_n heretic_n but_o they_o go_v on_o to_o the_o next_o period_n of_o the_o verse_n let_v my_o name_n be_v name_v on_o they_o and_o the_o name_n of_o my_o father_n abraham_n and_o isaac_n but_o protestant_n expound_v these_o word_n by_o verse_n 5_o 6_o and_o so_o do_v learned_a romanist_n ar._n loc_n ar._n aria_n mont._n in_o loc_n riber_n come_v in_o amos_n 9_o n._n 42._o cajet_fw-fr etc._n etc._n in_o loc_n mont._n riber_n fonsec_n cajet_fw-fr lyra._n hucard_n pintus_fw-la esthius_n then_o luk._n 15.7_o and_o 10_o be_v allege_v in_o the_o roman_a catechism_n par._n 3._o cap._n 2._o sect._n 5._o p._n 297._o ann._n 1606._o to_o prove_v the_o practice_n for_o thus_o it_o be_v argue_v they_o the_o angel_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n therefore_o rogati_fw-la be_v supplicate_v they_o can_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o our_o sin_n and_o procure_v god_n grace_n for_o we_o this_o be_v a_o strange_a inconsequence_n for_o from_o hence_o it_o will_v follow_v because_o protestant_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o papist_n therefore_o the_o papist_n shall_v religious_o invocate_v they_o as_o coadjutor_n and_o be_v thus_o invocate_v can_v purchase_v those_o benefit_n for_o they_o but_o our_o late_a apostate_n urge_v they_o to_o another_o purpose_n viz._n to_o prove_v thereby_o that_o angel_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o man_n heart_n this_o not_o way_n follow_v because_o they_o know_v the_o repentance_n of_o a_o sinner_n by_o its_o sign_n and_o fruit_n and_o so_o rejoice_v at_o his_o conversion_n therefore_o they_o have_v the_o intuitive_a knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n but_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o many_o ancient_a father_n this_o rejoice_v of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o particular_a sinner_n but_o for_o the_o redemption_n of_o all_o mankind_n which_o be_v the_o lose_a sheep_n for_o all_o that_o sin_v in_o adam_n and_o so_o lose_v both_o their_o innocency_n and_o felicity_n and_o they_o rejoice_v that_o god_n have_v discover_v a_o mean_n equivalent_a to_o innocency_n viz._n repentance_n in_o order_n to_o their_o recovery_n and_o future_a happiness_n and_o with_o they_o concur_v loc_n concur_v titus_n sostr_n &_o cajet_n in_o loc_n tit._n bostr_n and_o cajet_n and_o last_o suppose_v it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o individual_a sinner_n yet_o be_v this_o rejoice_v not_o to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o angel_n but_o to_o god_n who_o confess_o be_v the_o shepherd_n look_v for_o the_o stray_n sheep_n and_o the_o woman_n seek_v the_o lose_a groat_n next_o they_o produce_v matth._n 22.30_o luk._n 20.36_o but_o first_o it_o be_v incumbent_a on_o they_o to_o prove_v the_o angel_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v before_o they_o can_v conclude_v from_o hence_o viz._n from_o the_o saint_n depart_v equality_n with_o angel_n they_o be_v to_o be_v invocate_v and_o so_o the_o whole_a may_v be_v grant_v and_o yet_o it_o appear_v not_o from_o the_o text_n that_o they_o receive_v this_o equality_n with_o the_o angel_n at_o their_o first_o admission_n to_o the_o beatifical_a vision_n but_o only_o that_o they_o shall_v receive_v this_o similitude_n of_o condition_n at_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o just_a and_o so_o their_o now_o reign_v in_o heaven_n do_v not_o qualify_v they_o for_o this_o duty_n nor_o will_v do_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o even_o then_o they_o shall_v be_v equal_a to_o angel_n not_o in_o every_o respect_n for_o as_o they_o differ_v in_o
distance_n that_o he_o will_v pray_v for_o he_o because_o he_o know_v it_o be_v impossible_a he_o shall_v hear_v he_o nor_o can_v it_o be_v suppose_v that_o any_o man_n though_o stand_v by_o can_v know_v the_o heart_n of_o man_n when_o they_o utter_v nothing_o with_o their_o tongue_n to_o interpret_v it_o in_o sum_n no_o man_n ever_o direct_v his_o mental_a prayer_n to_o another_o nor_o his_o vocal_a to_o another_o as_o far_o distant_a from_o he_o as_o london_n be_v from_o rome_n but_o to_o return_v then_o to_o acknowledge_v such_o a_o excellency_n in_o the_o celestial_a creature_n as_o to_o apprehend_v the_o mental_a prayer_n of_o mortal_a man_n or_o the_o sincerity_n of_o their_o vocal_a either_o by_o their_o original_a power_n or_o by_o any_o derivative_a as_o it_o be_v a_o irrational_a conceit_n in_o itself_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o warrant_v it_o nor_o ground_n of_o reason_n to_o countenance_v it_o so_o it_o be_v injurious_a to_o god_n 1._o it_o be_v injurious_a to_o god_n 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