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A93130 The Qvakers wilde questions objected against the ministers of the Gospel, and many sacred acts and offices of religion. With brief answers thereunto. Together with A discourse of the Holy Spirit, his impressions and workings on the sovls of men. Very seasonable for these times. / By R. Sherlock, B.D. Sherlock, R. (Richard), 1612-1689. 1654 (1654) Wing S3254; Thomason E1495_3; ESTC R208535 67,037 174

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the people of and so deceive the simple Q. 6 Shew me what Scripture you have which speaks that the Apostles sprinkled Infants Q. 7 Shew me what Scripture you have to stand praying in the Synagogues before Sermon and after and whether the Apostles did so Q 8 Shew me by the Scriptures where the Apostles went into the world and gave the people of the world Davids Psalms to sing in meeter these things which you now practise answer them by the Scriptures or the Apostles practises without consequence or imagination Q. 9 Whether a man shall overcome the body of sin while he is upon the earth or no. Q. 10 Whether the curse be not upon him that preacheth an other Gospell then Christ and the Apostles yea or no Q. 11 Whether any naturall man can preach the Gospell or no. Q. 12 Whether that any of the Ministers of God was made Ministers by the will of men or no shew me it by the Scriptures Q. 13 Shew me it by the Scriptures whether a man shall grow up to that condition that he need no man teach him but the Lord or no. Q. 14 Whether they be not Antichrists and disobey Christ that have the chiefest places in the Assemblies stand praying in the Synagoges called of men Masters which Christ did forbid his disciples to act such things and cryed Woe against those that did act them Q. 15 Whether they be not Antichrists and of the Devill and no Ministers of Christ which do not abide in the doctrine of Christ Q. 16 Whether they be not seducers which draw people from the anointing within them and tell them they must be taught of a man when as the anointing teacheth them and they need no man teach them but as the anointing teacheth and the promise is to him that doth abide in it eternally Q. 17 Whether they do not bewitch the people which draw them from the spirit within to serve the ordinance of the world and traditions of men without as the Galatians were bewitched Gal. 3.1 Q. 18 Whether they be not deceivers which tell the people those are the Ordinances of God which God never commanded and draw men from the spirit within them to follow their imaginations and inventions Q. 19 Whether you have the same spirit which was in Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the Scriptures seeing you are contrary to the Scriptures and follow your own inventions and traditions and so erre from them Q. 20 Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first Baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years after Q. 21 Whether ever Christ or the Apostles did retain 100 or 200. l. a year for preaching the Gospell Q. 22 What Scripture is there to limit God to a place calling it a Church whereas the Church is in God 1 Thess 1.1 Q. 23 What Scripture is there to have a Clark to say Amen and have groats a peece of the world to maintain his trade Q. 24 What Scripture is there for taking money to bury the dead Q. 25 What Scripture is there for taking 10 or 20 s. for preaching a funerall Sermon Q. 26 What Scripture is there for taking money for marrying man and woman Q. 27 When did any that was sent of Jesus Christ to preach the Gospell sue men at the Law If thou be a Minister of Jesus Christ which exerciseth a pure conscience towards God and towards Man clear thy self from the guilt of these things and answer them in writing by the Scriptures or Saints examples or else in silence confessethy self to be guilty and one of those that Christ cryed woe against acting the same things now as they did then filling up the measure of thy fathers iniquity which said they were Jews and were not but were of the synagogue of Satan Thou sayest they must be learned men and brought up in Scholasticall wayes and by that meanes they must open the Scriptures because thou sayest they were first given forth in Greek and Hebrew which you call the Originall and therefore ignorant men cannot understand them but must have your meanings interpretations and dimensions of your own brain and thus you deceive the simple But answer me this question Whether the Scriptures as they are written in English be true as Christ and the Apostles spoke them forth and if they be true as they are in English what need any other language be learned by an English man to know them R. H. THE QUAKERS Severall Questions WITH The Answers Returned R. H. FOR what relative title to give you without offence I understand not I received you paper of many strange scrupulous Questions And though it be most true that one fool may aske more Questions then 100. wise men can answer as the common proverb goes yet we are taught by a more authentick proverb Prov. 26.5 sometimes to answer a fool in his folly lest he be wise in his own conceite I say not this to upbraid your person but with reflexion on the follies and errours displaid in your severall questions which will appear I beleeve in the following answers if you read them as becomes a good Christian without prejudice partiality or obstinacy of minde but with the spirit of meeknesse 1 Thess 5.21 and a desire to try all things and hold fast that which is good Quest 1 Whether your Gospell be the same which the Apostles preached and if it be why go you to Oxford or Cambridge when the Apostle saith the Gospell he preached was not after man-neither was he taught it by man Answ We preach the same Gospell the Apostles preached but do not attain the knowledg and understanding of this Gospell by the same means the Apostles were eye-witnesses and ear-witnesses of the sayings and doings of Christ which is the sum of the Gospell the mysteries whereof they understood by immediate revelation from heaven being both publickly visible Act. 2.1 2 3 4. and miraculously inspired with extraordinary gifts of the Spirit inabling them both more fully to understand and more powerfully to preach the Gospell then any mortall man could ever hope for since But we do neither pretend to any such sublime and eminent gifts neither do we or ought we to depend upon any such immediate and miraculous revelation from heaven Schooles they had at Bethel 2 King 2 3. at Jericho v. 5. and Elishas College was so full that they inlarged it 2 King 6.1 and at Naioth 1 Sam. 14.20 and upon the hill of God 1 Sam. 10.5 10. but do use those ordinary means and helps which God in his mercifull providence hath in all ages afforded his people viz. by study and industry in the Schools of the Prophets Neither go we to Oxford and Cambridge to learn the Gospell we preach but to learn the knowledge of those tongues and languages arts and sciences which are that externall means enabling us to understand and open the meaning of the Gospell by the good
which is the way to his eternall Kingdome hereafter our Saviour expresly teacheth saying Joh. 5.3 Except a man be borne again of water and of the holy Ghost he cannot enter into the Kingdome of God 2. That Children are of the Kingdom of God and to be admitted unto Christ himself expresly affirmes and strictly charges all men not to oppose it saying Suffer little Chrildren to come unto me Luk. 18.15 and forbid them not for of such also is the Kingdome of God If they must come unto Christ we must not stop up the way against them by denying them the seal of admission And if the Kingdome of God belong unto them surely the privileges of the Kingdome also whereof Baptisme is one 3. That Infants are in some measure capable of the Spirit of God is manifest from the example of the Prophet Jeremiah and of John Baptist Jer. 1.5 6. Luk. 1.66 80. And if they be capable of the inward Baptisme which is the holy Ghost much more of the outward which is water for can any man forbid water saith Peter in the like case that these should not be Baptized which have received the holy Ghost as well as we Act. 10.47 4. That Children are capable of being received and admitted into the Kingdome of Christ himself doth intimate saying Except ye receive the Kingdome of God as a little Child ye shall not enter therein so that receive it they may though they know it not For as the sin of the first Adam is imputed to children and they are defiled therewith though they understand it not so the righteousnesse of Christ the second Adam may be and we beleeve is by Gods secret and unknown way communicated to Infants though they know it not As to men born deaf and fools and such as are not capable of understanding for to such God forbid we should deny the mercies of God through Christ Quest. 7 Shew me what Scripture you have to stand praying in the Synagogues before Sermon and after and whether the Apostles did so Answ That we are both to pray and preach the Gospell there are so many Scriptures to prove that I need not name any and we pray both before and after Sermon because 1. 1 Thess 5.17 We are commanded to pray continually 2. Because prayer is the more chief and principall part of Gods service for it is written Mat. 21.13 My house shall be called the house of prayer to all Nations 3. That by prayer and devotion we might obtain the assistance and blessing of God both First upon our Labours in opening the Scriptures and Secondly upon the peoples duty in learning and attending thereunto the prayer before Sermon refers to the one and after Sermon to the other And in this question I must also further tell you you confound publick and private prayer and thereby pervert and misapply the words of our Saviour When thou prayest thou shalt not be as the Hypocrites Mat. 6.5 for they love to pray standing in the Synagogues c. that they may be seen of men in which place our Saviour forbids only private prayer to be offered in publick places out of vain-glory and oftentation to be seen of men and you falsly apply them against publick prayer which is both commanded and practised by publick persons and in publick places and to the end that they may be both seen and heard of men see for this the example of the Levites both for preaching Neh. 8. 9.3 4. Neh. 8. and for publick praying with a loud voice standing up upon the stayres that they might be heard Rom. 15.4 Neh. 9.3 4. Now what is written aforetime is written for our learning And that the Apostles did both pray inpublick for and with the people Act. 20.36.21.5 and also preach in publick and in the Synagogues of the Jewes is more then once or twice exprest in the Scriptures Quest 8 Shew me by the Scriptures when the Apostles went into the world and gave the people of the world Davids Psalmes to be sung in meeter The things that you practise answer them by the Scriptures or the Apostles practise without consequence or imagination Answ Touching the use of Psalms in meeter let me tell you because I see you understand not the nature of Psalms that they are not properly called Psalmes if not sung in verse and meeter and for Davids Psalms as you too scornfully call them know that they are the very dictates and breathings of Gods holy Spirit therefore are we commanded to be filled with the Spirit speaking to our selves in Psalms and Hymnes Eph. 5.18 19. c. And whereas all things in all Psalms are not at all times applyable to all persons yet there is something in every Psalme applyable to every person either by way of instruction or devotion and what in this or that Psalme is not applyable to our present condition may be hereafter and therefore it 's fit they should be used both for present devotion and benefit and also for the future that we may be thoroughly furnished with instructions and devotions against the time of need And for the Apostles practise herein t is sufficient we have their command for surely what they commanded others they practised themselves you may see they did so Act. 16.25 At midnight Paul and Silas prayed and sung Psalmes unto God But herein you demand an answer without consequence or imagination you might as well have said without reason or judgment which is all one as if you should bid me read your paper of Questions without my eyes Quest. 9 Whether a man shall over come the body of sin whiles he is upon the earth or no. Answ T is not possible wholly and altogether to subdue * It is overcome but not wholly a conquered enemy may trouble there is still a war Rom. 5.23 and the warfare endures untill death Rev. 2.10 the body of sin whilest we are in this world for t is therefore called the body of sin because there will be some reliques of sin some rebellions of the flesh against the spirit whilest we carry this body of flesh about us and are composed of flesh and spirit As a tree whilest there is life in it will bring forth fruit so the flesh whilest it is quickned with spirit of life 1 King 8.46 Job 14.4 Prov. 20.9 1 Joh. 18.10 Eccle. 7.22 will bring forth some kinde of fleshly fruits or other which is clear from manifold texts of Scripture Quest 10 Whether the curse be not upon him that preacheth another Gospell then Christ and the Apostles preached yea or no. Answ T is most true there is a curse and a heavy curse too will fall upon them that either preach another Gospell Gal. 1.6 7 8 9. or else pervert and poyson the truth of this Gospell which we have received from Christ and the Apostles And I would to God neither you nor any of your sect