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A64770 The man-mouse taken in a trap, and tortur'd to death for gnawing the margins of Eugenius Philalethes. Vaughan, Thomas, 1622-1666. 1650 (1650) Wing V153A; ESTC R203907 41,219 118

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matter but something else you know not what I shall expect your Interpretation by the next no doubt but you will give me a very faire occasion to whip you But you goe on and I will follow This Description say you is an hideous emptie fansie and why so is it more hideous than your horrid Cave and womb of dredded Night It seems you were in a bodily feare when you pen'd this Verse But there is another fault it conveys not so much to the understanding as Aristotle's Description of the Matter for he describes it to be the first subject out of which every thing is But Prethee Mastix what is that subject Nec Quid nec Quale nec Quantum why this conveyes a just Nothing to the understanding Sirrah Aristotle's Matter which is nothing to the Matter is not in Nature {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} neither is it {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and Prethee what is it then I shall rack you for this when you come to your answer But you proceed and tell me To call this Matter Primitive waters is but Metaphors and Poetrie if I call'd it so I grant thy Argument but what doest thou understand by Primitive waters I believe the Darknesse formerly mention'd I never call'd it water Mastix and yet if I had it had been no Rhetoric but Philosophie with Aristotle it was Water in Potentiâ but a Cloud Actu Had you read my Book with Attention as you tell me you did in your Pistle you had found there a first Matter which was an horrible emptie Darknesse and after that a second which is a primitive water into which that Darknesse was condens'd This second matter is it who 's bosome the Divine Light pierced and now I will see what Darknesse you can find in this Light But Mastix you avoid the Light for your works are not Good and fall into your horrid Cave againe You tell me they must be Waters and Dark I hope thou doest not conceive the world was made of Ink like thy Observations I cannot indeed suppose thee so mad but I will tell thee what thou doest conceive Thou doest fansie that by Primitive waters I understand the Primitive Darknesse and so thou doest comment where thou doest not understand But this Mistake is necessary they must be dark waters that the Light may Shine in them Doth not the Light shine then in clear waters and that more distinctly than in Puddle Indeed thou mayst well think not for thy Moores face nay thy mind may be better seen in thy Ink than in thy Glasse But some on Sirrah the Holy Spirit say you was not able to see before the Light shin'd upon the waters How then did he find the water out and move upon it when there was darknesse and no light upon the face of the Deep as the Scripture it self tels thee Blasphemous wretch Doest thou make the Spirit of God blind He that made the Eye shall not he see But this is not all your Blasphemie your boldnesse to make Observations upon Theo-Magic hath discover'd your Close Impieties and taught me what the Religion of a Presbyterian is Was the matter say you so stiffe and clammy dark as to be able to keep out the Divine Light Truly the Matter was not stiffe and what Clammie signifies I know but Clammie-dark is a hard word which you must put in the Rere of your Psychodia But heare me thou Asse with thy long Eares Doest thou aske me if the Matter was able to keep out the Divine Light when thou doest make thy Observations on these very words of mine The Divine Light pierced the Bosome of the Matter I have been told that Cambridge is an Vniversitie but at this passe I know not what to think of it But here comes an Inference will pay me for all If the matter could not exclude the Divine Light then say you the Idea's shin'd in the water as soon as God was Why how now Villaine assoon as God was Prethee how soon was that doest thou thinke was there a Time when he was not but I haste to answer thy Objection The divine Idea's could not shine in the water assoon as God was for God was ab aeterno but the Water was not so Lastly if the Water as thou would'st have it had been ab AEterno yet the Divine Idea's could not shine in it ab AEterno for the Light was not manfested till God pronounc'd his sit Lux This you might have found in my Booke but you were blind and this Light did not shine in your Eyes Observation 6. IF Anthroposophus had such a Device as this in a Glasse c. Here you tell me Master Mastix that if I had such an appearance in a Glasse as that of Doctor Marci what a fine Gew-gaw would it be for the lad Well! since you will needs be at the Charge to provide Rattles for me I shal be sure to pay you for them the Lad is resolv'd to make a meer Gew-gaw of you to shew you to al the world for twelve pence a Man But at last you open your mouth and speak of Rationes seminales though you question whither there be any such things or no Take heed Sirrah what you say if you doe but straine at these high speculations I shall so excoriat your Breech you shall not be able to sit for a good time but move a very formall Peripatetic Observation 7. YOur naturall Plea is but an Idea of your owne Braine c. I beseech thee Reader mark the Injustice and basenesse of this man The words he excepts at are these But you are to be admonished there is a two-fold Idea Divine and Naturall The Naturall is a fierie invisible created spirit and properly a meer Inclosure or Vestiment of the true one Here I my self make the naturall Idea no Idea at all but properly a meer Inclosure of the true Idea Now my Adversarie questions me for making it an absolute Idea which is false and so contrarie to his owne promise makes a Flaw where he finds none Lastly Mastix thou doest envie me the glorie of the Text that I have found an Argument in Moses to prove the Divine Idea which no man ever observed before me But this Learning say you I got from Philo Iudaeus Cite him then and produce his words if thou darest Observation 8. ANd the reason why the world is beholden to this Gentleman c. Here comes a sweet breath amidst all your Vomits you call me a Gentleman Mastix Truly if I am one thou art none for thou hast not us'd me like a Gentleman But you quickly lose your Civilities and begin to jest at me O brave Anthroposophus O base Negro Theomagic is no Quibble But now your Wit is spent you would fain make use of your Reason I know not say you whether the Chaos be created or uncreated Why Sirrah will you presume to censure me in those things whereof