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A43272 The lambs innocency defended, against lyes and slanders In answer to a second reply of a priest, who is called a minister at Lazonby in Cumberland called Simon Atkinson, who hath shewed his wolfish nature against those people called Quakers; ranking them up with the papists; falsly accusing them of those things which they utterly detest; but his weapons is turned against himselfe by one of the campe of the God of Israel, whose eye is opened in measure, ... working in the shadow of reformation translated into a fairer forme springing from the old corrupt root; and to see the bickerings of the night-armie running on heaps now in the dawning of the day; and the uncircumcised in Heart and Ears in flying from the light, and repoose of the same: and from the alarum of the spirits trumpet which is founded vvithin, for the cutting downe of the man of sin, and for the quenching of his motions. Written in defence of the truth as it is in Jesus, by a foole to the wisdom of this world, who, according to measure, hath tasted and obtained of the wisdome Helling, Joseph. 1658 (1658) Wing H1382; ESTC R216631 44,515 52

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pillaging poor people Houses Cavelleer-like and so is found as a Troupe of Robbers Hos 6.9 so the spirit of holines is not your clothing for you execed your Fore-Fathers the Scribes and Phasisees or the Lesuits in Queen Maries dayes for persecuting Here you are found to be filthy Dreamers speaking the Visions of your owne hearts studying invented for money your Church is your Shop your Sabbath is your Market day which makes me cry Oh miserable Reformers and Reformation for shame desist thy leven Pr. You are given up to beleeve lyes for that you received not the truth in the love of at nor liked to retain God in your Knowledge therefore are you given up to these strong Delusions Ans All lyes and lya●s we doe deny who saith they are Ministers of Christ Iesus and yet makes a trade of the Letter and we have received the truth in the love of it which is the light and grace of God Iohn 8.12 Tit. 2.11 which teacheth us to turn away from all covetous hirelings who calls the Scripture their rule and the tryar of spirits but is neither guided by spirit nor Scripture I say we are taught to turn from such to the light which shines in our hearts and to the anoynting 2 Cor. 4.6 1 Iohn 2.26 by which we come to know God and to retain him in our Knowledge by whose power we are brought from darknesse deluders false Apostles and from all them who are murmurers complainers walking after their own lusts whose mouthes speaks great swelling words having mens persons in admiration because of advantage Iude 16. who serves not our Lord Jesus Christ but their own bellies so S. A. thine accusation stands recorded against thy slefo Pr. Vunder which you lye as spectieles of Divine wrath which is come upon you as heretofore upon the Iowes for the like sins see 1 Thes 2.15.16 in which sad case we are forced to leave you not knowing whether ever the Lord will deliver you because you despise our help and sets light by our cousells and hates our instruction your hearts being utterly and desperately hardened Ans Reader thou may take notice how that the Apostle in this 1 Thes 2. who used not a cloake of covetonsnes ver 5. But laboured and travelled that he might not be chargoable ver 9. I say take notice how he declares against the Jews in the 15.16 v who kiled the Lord Iesus Christ and their own Prophets and forbad the Apostles to speake to the Goutiles They had their Synagogues to ateep into as the Priests of our time the Papists Masle-houses to creep into not labouring in travell as the Apostles did 1 Thes 2. 8.9.10.11 but despising them that doth Iewes-like 1 Thes 2. 15.16 but you are more subtile holding up the first Priest-hoods maintenance under the cloake of Gospel maintenance crying against them that speaks what they have received freely so the 1 Thes 2.15.16 is fulfilled amongst you that is called of men Masters stands praying in your Masle houses or Synagognes striving to draw from the spirits teachings c. but we are delivered from you and knows your voyces to be the voyces of strangers and the Lord hath brought us into that one Fould where he is the Shepherd alone from the mouthes of all ye dumbe shepherds which made a prey upon us and so your help we deny for you help into spirituall whoredom but not out And your counsell we deny its invented trash and you are found and proved lyars but he is our Counseller whose name is called Wonderfull Counsellor Isay 9.6 who is also our hope of glory Col. 1.26.27 who is our Instructer who faith learne of me Mat. 11.29 he hath turned unto us his pure Language by taking away out stony hearts for whose Instruction we utterly deny all your leven and you leveners who faith and doth not so S. A. thou and thy Fellows shall proceed no further undiscovered to the Children of Light and except you repent of your lewdnesse divine wrath will be the portion of your spirtuall Witcheraft wherein you keep people alwayes learning and you your selves alwayes pleading against perfection Oh ye Caterpillars and Grasse-hoppers how long will ye not cause to destroy the blossomes of the vine which increaseth dayly before your bloody devouring jawes and envious instigations Oh that ye would be warned Pr. And now to come to the conclusion of the Paper which contains some simple Quaries c. and why Quaries c. Ans The end of my quaering was and is for the clearing of the truth and try all of thy spirit whether patlent or perverse and not tempt thee with evill as thou hast enviously judged but that by slighty cunning might be made manifest as after will appear Pr. Thou shewes thy selfe without shame to doe the works of thy Father who was a tempter c. Mat. 22.17.18 19.3 c. Mar. 8.11 9.14 Luke 10.25 John 8.56 Ans Here thou hast eited some Scriptures unto which thou compares me for asking of thee a question Ah thou judge of evill thoughts the Scribes and Pharisees had better cause to call Christ a tempter then thou hath to call me for the knew from whence the Baptisms of John was better then they as Mat. 21.25 and whose Son he was better then they Mat. 22.45 although he asked them I say they mocked him and subtilly layd waite to intangle him but I have not quaeried of thee in that nature but for clearing of truth because of diversity of judgements so I deny them that sought to intangle Christ to be my fore-fathers although thy actions with thy Fellows cannot deny them to be your fore-fathers as is proved for innoceney will clears me and the Lord be judge between thee and me Pr. And now though I might send thee away as Christ did thy fore-fathers Mat. 21.25 chap. 22.45 c. yet because I know thee and the rest of thy generation to be lesse ingonuous and more impedent and apt to be lifted up upon light oceasion and least my total silence should afford any fuell for the fire of thy pride I shal shape thee such answers as may possibly have no more wisedome then thy Quaries though probably more truth then thou quaries after Ans I have not asked after the nature of the Scribes and Pharisees to intangle thee although thou hath intangled thy slefe but for the causes afore said have I quaered and thou art found the immetator of those who first consulted to lye Mat. 21.25.26.27 and then answered plainly ver 31. 41. as thou hast done ●s after will appeare But first thou hast made thy Kaine-like Jewish spirit manifest Christ Jesus asked many questions although he knew And the Apostle exhorted to give a reason of the hope that was in them but albeit thou pretend to be a Minister of Christ yet thou art found unwilling to answer but is lifted up in contempt and false accusations for I tell thee we know what