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A52246 Foxes and firebrands, or, A specimen of the danger and harmony of popery and separation wherein is proved from undeniable matter of fact and reason that separation from the Church of England is, in the judgment of papists, and by sad experience, found the most compendious way to introduce popery and to ruine the Protestant religion. Nalson, John, 1638?-1686.; Ware, Robert, d. 1696. Foxes and firebrands. Part 2. 1682 (1682) Wing N104; ESTC R7745 85,255 246

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reading of it instantly caused the said Heth to be apprehended and the next day being Monday Novemb. 22. brought him to Examination Bishop Mr. Heth how long have you Preached in England Heth. About six years and more Bishop Were you of any certain Order formerly before this late Reformation of the Church of England Heth. Yes I was Bish What was that Heth. It was the Order of Jesus Bish Are you not still of that Order and have you not now and then some correspondence with that Order Heth. The Ministry will venture to instruct one another but your Lordship seeth how I have retired my self from those whom you call Jesuits Bish We suppose Mr. Heth you have not totally forsaken their Tenents though you have their Persons Heth. Wherein may I be suspected not to forsake their Tenents as well as their Company Bish There is great suspition that you are not of the Church of England by the words which you spoke yesterday in your Sermon Heth. What words were those my Lord Bish You said that it was not those Prayers of the Church of England as are now established that brought Peter out of Prison but * Observe the Design of the Papists from the beginning of the Reformation to bring the Prayers and Church into contempt not being spiritual Prayers and how well the Dissenters have copied this Original spiritual Prayers Heth. And were they not spiritual Prayers that availed him And where have we (a) The Language exactly of Separatists Scripture for any set Form in the Church Bish (b) A good answer to both Papists and Dissenters Quare whether the Directory were warranted by express Scripture If there be no Scripture for any set Form in the Church of England much less for any set Forms among your Fraternities for what we have established is out of the written word of God (c) Diversity and Variety of publick Prayers taken from a Popish Pattern no where warranted in Scripture But as for your Popish Orders viz. Augustines Dominicans Franciscans Jesuits c. you all differ in the Prayers of the Mass one from another where then is your Scripture for so many Varieties of Prayers and Masses Heth. They have Antiqiuty on their side and for the alteration of Prayers every Fraternity and Convent hath power among themselves as is most fit for that Congregation assembled Bish Now seeing you have begun to talk of Antiquity pray Mr. Heth tell me (d) The Jesult entrapped by his own Plea Were all the Orders of the Church of Rome ordained at once No surely for some Orders are ancienter than others by reason they have been allowed by several Popes But as for yours that Order was but of late days established therefore you have little or no Antiquity to plead Heth. My Lord You see I am fallen from that Society which I perceive by your passages in examining me so strictly you suspect me to be one of them still I confess (e) Observe that the Jesuits are enemies to Episcopacy and for a purer or in the language of Dissenters a thorough Reformation I am not so totally of the Episcopal Party of England (f) A Jesuit pretends to refine but intends to destory and it is evident that whoever do so do their work because I have laboured to refine the Protestants and to take off all smacks of Ceremonies that in the least do tend to the Romish Faith Bish Hath our Gracious Queen by her Learned Council and Assembly of Divines who several times sate for the Reformation of Religion now declared and confirmed by Her Highnesses High Court of Parliament established the Forms and Manners thereof (g) An unanswerable Question to all Dissenters who are no more but private persons what hath any particular man to meddle any further Heth. (h) From the good will of such Pretenders whether Papists or Dissenters Good Lord deliver us For we know by woful Experience the fire of Reformation pretends to refine but being over-hot does consume It was but my good will in endeavouring to make it purer Bish You are a pure Steer I must needs say in pretending that you are reformed yet let me ask you one Question Mr. Heth Had not you of late any Letters from any of your Society Heth. I might have had Letters must I therefore be of their Order still because they write to disswade a man from his Principles No sure my Lord. Bish Your Society write Mr. Heth not to disswade you but that you may disswade others However tell me Did you ever know or hear of a man called Samuel Malt Heth. I have heard of such a man Bish Yes and you know him full well Heth. It may be so my Lord. Bish Mr. Dean Shew Mr. Heth the Letter and let him tell whether he knows the hand-writing and call in Richard Fisher to come into the Court. Richard Fisher Here my Lord. Bish How came you by this Letter R. F. I found it yesterday after Even-song in the Pulpit Bish You know it if you see it is this the same R. F. The very same The Letter was as follows Brother THe Council of our Fraternity have thought fit to send you David George Theodorus Sartor and John Huts their Collections which you may distribute where-ever you may see it may be for your purpose according to the peoples inclinations These mixtures with your own will not only a little puzzle the Understandings of the Auditors but make your self famous We suppose your wants are not considerable at present by what we have heard how your Flock do admire you every day more and more Be not over-zealous in your proceedings in the beginning but gradually win on them as you visit them and according as you find their inclinations bend to your Design let us hear how you have proceeded for it will satisfie your Brethren much and inable them the better to instruct you for the future Hallingham Coleman and Benson have set (i) (i) The Original of the Sects in Germany among the Protestants from the Jesuits a Faction among the German Hereticks so that several who have turned from us have now denied their Baptism which we hope will soon turn the scale and bring them back to their old Principles This we have certified to the Council and Cardinals (k) (k) The Reader is desired seriously to observe that the Jesuits Pope and Cardinals have laid this down as a Maxim that Divisions and Separations are the most effectual way to introduce Popery and ruine the Protestant Religion That there is no other way to prevent people from turning Hereticks and for the recalling of others back again to the Mother Church than by the Diversities of Doctrines We all wish you to prosper Madrid Octob. 26. 1568. Sam. Malt. Bish Look here Mr. Heth here is a Letter and it is to be supposed to drop from you when you Preached yesterday for none stood in the Pulpit but your self
of the Nation which the King with the advice and by the consent of the wisdom of the Nation has judged and therefore established for the publick good So that the Contest of Dissenters appears to be for Empire and Sovereignty and who shall be the Supreme Judge of the Goodness and Expediency of Laws Answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Sermon and they do very ill to quarrel at Clergie-mens Coaches and Liveries who themselves are grasping at Crowns and Scepters And if any or many private men shall not judge these Laws so good as those they would have imposed they ought to submit and study to be quiet and not make the greater Duty of Mercy and Peace of the Church submit to the Sacrifice of what may be is but Opinion and still sub Judice I have a Theme before me too copious for an Epistle and shall therefore that I may not transgress the bounds of one dismiss the other I only offer these following discoveries of the Danger to which Protestant Religion and these Nations are exposed by obstinate Separation to your cool and retired thoughts and hope you are too good men and Christians to esteem me Your Enemy because I tell you the Truth Philirenes ERRATA PAge 34. line 24. for her read his p. 39. l. 1. for Cecil read Civil p. 69. l. 6. for Coronensis read Connorensis p. 80. l. 14. for their read you p. 129. l. 26. for Lord read Letter FOXES AND FIRE-BRANDS c. THat the Papists have ever since the Reformation of Religion in Europe The restless design of Papists to regain England to Rome been most invincibly industrious in these Kingdoms to bring the Church of England to ruine and a total subversion there cannot remain the least doubt or scruple For besides apparent matter of undeniable Fact during the Reigns of Queen Elizabeth King James and King Charles the First and our present Gracious Sovereign whom God long preserve there are these Reasons which have and do animate them in the repeated prosecution of that desperate Enterprize First A vain Enthusiastick Opinion The Reasons moving them vigorously to prosecute their wicked Design which in this last Century they have generally embraced That there shall be a Fifth Monarchy of their Church For the erecting of which they embroil their Brains 1. An Enthusiastick Belief of the Fifth Monarchy of the Church of Rome and the whole Christian World wrest the Prophecies of the Scripture and the pretended Writings of the Sybils to countenance this beloved Chymaera Now they look upon the English Nation become Heretick and revolted from the Faith as too potent and considerable in this part of the World to permit them to hope for any success till that Church and State be either so broken as to be disabled to oppose them or be reduced to the Roman Faith and Obedience Secondly 2. The Church of England the only Bulwork of the Protestant Religion and their most potent Enemy They look upon the Church of England therefore as the only Bastion or Bulwork of the Protestant Religion and Interest from whence there have sprung so many and such a constant succession of able Champions for Truth and so long as that Church continues are like to do as will eternally baffle all the Arguments and Reasons they have hitherto or can produce to support their tottering Cause and in all probability will in time so expose them as to convince the World of the Apostacy of Rome from the ancient Primitive Christianity and induce them to knock off the shackles of blind Obedience which their Ignorance and the Romish Artifice have fastened upon the hands of all Princes and People under the Papal Jurisdiction and whatever some people may imagine * This is apparent because they raise them themselves there is nothing formidable to Rome in these little Sects of Separatists who being by their own Eternally sub-dividing Principles like the Sheaf of Arrows in the Apologue unbound will be broken without any great difficulty but the Church of England being a Body compact firm and well put together and wearing so much of the Primitive Purity and Antiquity both in Doctrine and Discipline is the Gordian knot which till by the Sword of Pope Alexander they can untie they can never hope to conquer the World by that of Peter and therefore that Church is the constant mark of their Hate and Envy and to undermine her Foundations they set themselves and all their Engines to work with all possible Diligence and Application I remember to have heard a pretty odd Relation An Instance of a Pope's Charity to the English Hereticks which came from a Person of Quality of this Nation who was at Rome in the time of our late Troubles This Noble Person having demanded liberty to have an Audience of his Holiness obtained it and was treated with great Civility and Respect After the Formalities of the Visit were over the Pope enquired what News from England to which the Gentleman replied with great testimonies of Compassion and gave him a short recital of the Tragical Adventures of the Civil War at which the Pope fell into such an indecent laughter that the English Gentleman smartly repartee'd Sir Certainly this is a Scene for Pity not for Laughter Well young man said the old Pope having gravely composed himself you say true and I take your reproof in good part but added he I cannot forbear this testimony of Joy when I consider that God is about to convince you of your Errors by these severe Methods and by their own hands to destroy one of the best drest Heresies that ever appeared in the World since that of the Arians Thirdly 3. Secular Interest Ambition and Honour the Romish Clergy look upon themselves to be extreamly injured in point of Interest and that they are unjustly and violently dispossessed of all the Dignities and Revenues of the Bishopricks Cathedrals Abbeys Monasteries and other religious Houses and these Promotions Dignities and Revenues are from time to time conferred by the Pope upon titular Bishops Deans c. who de jure pretend a Right to them and hope de facto to possess them so soon as they can by any Arts or Ways reduce these Nations to the Obedience of the See of Rome Nay the Pope himself has the Vanity or Impudence to be tickled with the sweet imagination of Sovereignty and to pretend from the Resignation of King John to Pandulphus his Legate a Title to the Imperial Crown of these Realms Now ambitious men animated by these Hopes and professing as matter of Faith that they are free from all the Obligations of Duty and Allegiance to Heretical Princes and Vsurpers as they term ours and at least in pretence being inflamed with an ardent Zeal for the conversion or confusion of us poor Hereticks and having always the dazling beams and lustre of Interest and secular Advantage in their eyes together with the hopes of Heaven as the merits
hath hitherto continued This Narrative the said Nowland himself confessed un William Muschamp Esq now one of his Majesties Commissioners for the farming of his Revenues there who can certifie that this Nowland made his brags how he serv'd the Independants at Plymouth There is yet in Ireland a Clergy-man of the Church of Rome Mr. Andrew Catherwood his Narrative of one Jackson a pretended Saint yet a Romanist one Jackson by name who has Preached as we are informed by our Author for these several years past viz. ann 1668 1669 and 1670. within and about the Counnty and City of Limerick amongst the Nonconformists in those parts This Fox when he began to Preach at Limerick received from those Nonconformists at one time about fourscore Cobbs for a Sermon then Preached unto them after which he invited an acquaintance of his Mr. Andrew Catherwood to a Treat at which time he spent about twenty shillings of this summ the said Mr. Catherwood assuring us who heard him declare these words that this said Jackson was the first that ever brought him to a Bawdy-house within that City The said Mr. Andrew Catherwood doth likewise affirm that this Jackson would often pretend that he had received Letters from Francis Marsh then Bishop of Limerick and would frame these Letters as if they had weekly come from him saying that that Bishop would fain have him to Preach in his Cathedral but it was against his Conscience so to Preach therefore he had rather Preach to his Flock for Charity than to the Bishop for Gain This he framed to cologue with his Followers and would shew these pretended Letters of his to please them Mr. Catherwood also affirmeth that this Jackson would say Mass disguised to the common sort in that County upon week-days and although he seigned this outward Godliness amongst the Dissenters at Limerick that he came up to Dublin and there Preached amongst our Ministers in our Churches and after to cologue with the Dissenters in that City he pretended to them to fall from the Church of England and Preached in the Meetings where as he the said Jackson confessed to Mr. Catherwood he got about 13 l. Sterl collected by the Meeting-houses in Dublin This Jackson was born at Abberdeen in Scotland he is a great Scholar and a Traveller for he hath travelled into France Italy Germany and Spain In Spain he taught a School as being Vsher under a publick Schoolmaster there he still wandreth about this Kingdom of Ireland and was lately seen in the County of Mayo The then Bishop of Limrick Fran. Marsh now Archbishop of Dublin we suppose may have heard of this Impostors pranks already mentioned during the time that his Grace was Bishop of Limrick which if testified would strengthen this Mr. Catherwoods Evidence who declared this above Narrative unto us whose names hereafter follow Robert Ware Esq John Madden Student in Physick of Trinity-Colledge in Dublin and before Pearse Welch being upon the 25th of Feb. 1681. Thus far have we laid before you the practices of Rome devised to divide the Protestant Church of England therefore the dispensations allowed by her Popes and Clergy be many and large as appears by what you have already heard purposely to drive on and set forward her impious Plots she therefore dispenses with her Adherents to take the shape yea even of a member of the Church of England not out of love thereunto but to accomplish her intended purposes For example-sake there was a certain Knight Sir E. L. well known over his Majesties Dominions of England Scotland and Ireland who came into this his Majesties Kingdom of Ireland anno 1670 or thereabouts It is not unknown unto the Inhabitants and Citizens of Dublin that in the year following 1671 upon the one and twentieth of May there hapned a surious fire in his Majesties Castle of Dublin during which flames the Lord John Butler afterwards created Earl of Gowran third Son to his Grace James Duke of Ormond now Lord Lieutenant of the Nation took great care and pains to extinguish the same which had it been trusted unto the said Knight we question whether half the Buildings now there extant would have been seen this day For this Knight under the pretence of saving the rest of the Buildings within that Castle would have blown up the great Hall belonging to this Palace To execute this project the quicker he caused a Barrel of Gunpowder to be placed in the middle of that Hall and so to have dropt a train of Powder and to set fire to the same But this brave spirited Lord coming in at that instant and enquiring why that Barrel was there placed and having heard the project he most couragiously although the flames were over his head lifted up the Barrel of Gunpowder and carried it out on his shoulders saying I approve not of this project When this Fire hapned as is generally reported by several of the Citizens of Dublin that night the water of the City was stopt so that the Castle-pipe had no water but what they were fain to bring in from the Mill-pond in the Stable-yard without the Castle-walls It hath been generally reported that this Knight went secretly to Mass at this time but whether he did or no it was observed that he would walk before the then Lord Lieutenant amongst the Gentry to Church with his Bible publickly under his arm to be seen This posture disguised his Religion which since is discovered although at Church he would seem very zealous turning to the Texts of Scripture as fast as they were quoted by the Minister There is a Learned Doctor Doctor Salls testimony concerning this Knight some years now past who turned unto the Church of England Andrew Sall by name formerly an Ecclesiastick of the Church of Rome who hath affirmed how he had heard formerly when the Lord J. B. went Embassador into France that this Sir E. L. went with that Lord and that the French King being taken with the Knights humors he and that King covenanted together after this manner This Knight was to give intelligence to the French King The Covenants between the French King and this Knight acting under-hand for him making this Proviso for himself that in case he should be discovered and thereby incur the King of Englands displeasure if he fled into France he should be there succoured and the French King there to provide a place for him Several others besides this Divine have heard the same besides what the Letters of News have mentioned to this effect For the perfecting of this Covenant it is visible and known how he hath been accused to be one of the Conspirators in the late Popish Plot anno 1678 for which he was clapt up but afterwards being released upon Bail he fled into France where he is not only succoured to this day but likewise provided for and there preferred to be an Abbot in Paris where several of his Majesties Subjects have seen him ranting